do the points go down in the 2nd round??

mc_coster

i was looking to get into DIT for visual communications!the points were 800 this year ,thats 150 up from last year:eek::eek:......i ened up with 795 :mad::mad:(345 in my leaving and 450 in my portfoilo)just wanted to know if there is still a chance i can get in on the 2nd round ......do the points go down????

A_M

yes, they do go down

ddef

Im 10 points below arts in ucd.
what are the chances it will fall by 10?

theowen

ddef wrote: »

Im 10 points below arts in ucd.
what are the chances it will fall by 10?

Fair high? 1000's of places and whatnot.

mc_coster

do they normally fall by much because i only need 5 points

Kevvv

I need Marketing, innovation & technology in DCU to fall by 35 points :pac: safe to say that aint happening.

wendellgee

I'm 20 points below waht i need for arts in UCD, do you think there is any chance it will drop that much ?

rainbowtrout

mc_coster wrote: »

do they normally fall by much because i only need 5 points

It's impossible to say. Here's a few scenarios:
Everyone that was offered a place this morning might accept that place and then there are no more places.
Some of the people who were offered places on the course this morning may not take up the place for whatever reason. Those places become available in the second round.
Some people may accept the place, but then in the second round they are offered one of their higher choices which they accept. Their place then becomes vacant and may be offered in the third round.

King54

Kevvv wrote: »

I need Marketing, innovation & technology in DCU to fall by 35 points :pac: safe to say that aint happening.

I just need it to fall by 5 points!!

Lawliet

I just need the points for science at Trinity to lose its asterisk

loike

Lawliet wrote: »

I just need the points for science at Trinity to lose its asterisk

i hope you get it, that sucks losing out on random selection.

i need marketing in dit to drop by 15 i doubt it will

A193

I need mine to fall 40 its Art though.. gonna give the place a call in the morning, show im interested and get my name in there heads!

theaint

Hey I missed arts in ucd by 10 points and I was wondering if the points for arts in ucd generally drop every year in the second round offers and if so by how much? I know last year the points for arts stayed the same for 2nd round and I'm pretty worried by this. It'd be great if anyone could give me info on this. Cheers.

mc_coster

rainbowtrout wrote: »

It's impossible to say. Here's a few scenarios:
Everyone that was offered a place this morning might accept that place and then there are no more places.
Some of the people who were offered places on the course this morning may not take up the place for whatever reason. Those places become available in the second round.
Some people may accept the place, but then in the second round they are offered one of their higher choices which they accept. Their place then becomes vacant and may be offered in the third round.

but if someone those leave then would be in the best place to get in??? there cant be many people just 5 points off!

Da Shins Kelly

I need just one person to drop out of Arts in NUIG and I'm in. They said I'm pretty much top of the list, given my points. There was a mistake on my CAO, so I've had to wait for the second round. I'm still worried, picturing worst case scenarios and all that, but the guy at NUIG said he's pretty confident someone will drop out. With loads of people doing Arts courses, there's bound to be a few that are gonna decide to do something else, take a year out, etc. It'll probably work out.

mc_coster

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

I need just one person to drop out of Arts in NUIG and I'm in. They said I'm pretty much top of the list, given my points. There was a mistake on my CAO, so I've had to wait for the second round. I'm still worried, picturing worst case scenarios and all that, but the guy at NUIG said he's pretty confident someone will drop out. With loads of people doing Arts courses, there's bound to be a few that are gonna decide to do something else, take a year out, etc. It'll probably work out.

can you ring up and find out where you are on the list???

Da Shins Kelly

mc_coster wrote: »

can you ring up and find out where you are on the list???

Since I found out about this problem with my CAO, I've pretty much been in constant contact with the CAO and NUIG to find out what's going on with my application and if there's anyway that I can get on the course. They told me there was no way that I could be offered a place in the first round because of the mistake with the CAO, but that I'd be almost top of the list for second round offers. This is just what they said to me over the phone when they saw how many points I had. I think they said it because I was one of the higher applicants for the course and it was by a freak accident that I didn't get it on the first offers. I don't think you can just call up and have them tell you where you are on the list though.

A Changer

I still cling onto a slim hope that History in Trinity will drop by five little, measly points. I'm inches away from giving up hope altogether, and just be happy with the course I got. Every time I begin to, a stray thought ignites, and I find myself helplessly wishing. The sooner Thursday week comes, the sooner I can just be content.

Pheima

I will drop history in trinity if i manage to get law or history and political science in round 2

A Changer

Pheima wrote: »

I will drop history in trinity if i manage to get law or history and political science in round 2

I wish you the best of luck, then!

mc_coster

A Changer wrote: »

I still cling onto a slim hope that History in Trinity will drop by five little, measly points. I'm inches away from giving up hope altogether, and just be happy with the course I got. Every time I begin to, a stray thought ignites, and I find myself helplessly wishing. The sooner Thursday week comes, the sooner I can just be content.

i know how you feel ......i was 15 off last year and this year they upped the points and im off by only 5 , its driving me mad :mad::mad::mad: i got offered waterford but i dont think ill be goin so thursday week will be an all or notting day!!

randylonghorn

mc_coster wrote: »

can you ring up and find out where you are on the list???

Lord, no! Can you imagine how many thousands of people would be contacting them if they did that?

Lawliet

I wish they would just make the list available for each course

Guest11

Does science in trinity normally decrease much in round 2 offers?

telephone

Does anyone know by how many points Law in UCD went down in the second round offers last year? I got 470, but ti came in at 480 this year and bnl was 485. Would it be usual for a course lie that to go down by 15 points in the second round offers?

challengemaster

A193 wrote: »

I need mine to fall 40 its Art though.. gonna give the place a call in the morning, show im interested and get my name in there heads!

Colleges have nothing to do with the CAO, it's entirely out of their hands for 1st year admissions.

And I doubt the CAO computer is going to remember names....

Best thing to do is sit tight and wait for 2nd round offers.

halpin17

If it's 5 points send all your scripts back u might get lucky.

challengemaster

halpin17 wrote: »

If it's 5 points send all your scripts back u might get lucky.

I don't think everyone has 3-400 euro to throw away like that. Also, don't forget that you can be brought down in grade in rechecks. So you could waste 400 quid and end up 15 points worse off.

mc_coster

halpin17 wrote: »

If it's 5 points send all your scripts back u might get lucky.

i did my leaving last year so its a bit late to get them checked :P

ddef

does anybody know if the points for arts in ucd usually drops in the second round or if generally places become available until october?
thanks in advance.

mc_coster

QueenOfLeon wrote: »

It is possible but it all depends on what the people who've been offered the course do. If they defer or decline it, it'll open up spaces. Depending on how many spaces are free, it could drop by 5, 10, 15 points, but theres no way of knowing til the second round offer. Have a back up plan in case it doesn't drop. If this course was your number 1 and you were offered your number 2, you can accept your number 2 and still be offered number 1 in the next round, if you'd be happy with doing your second choice. Be prepared for changing your accommodation plans/start date if you do end up getting a different course.

we will just have to wait till next week to find out!:(:(

QueenOfLeon

ddef wrote: »

does anybody know if the points for arts in ucd usually drops in the second round or if generally places become available until october?
thanks in advance.

Theres no real "usually" to things as course points rise and fall as the years go on. No one can really say if they'll drop, you'll just have to hope for the best and wait til next week. You can't enter a course in October unless you went up in rechecks and had enough points, if the course has space for you.

rainbowtrout

QueenOfLeon wrote: »

Theres no real "usually" to things as course points rise and fall as the years go on. No one can really say if they'll drop, you'll just have to hope for the best and wait til next week. You can't enter a course in October unless you went up in rechecks and had enough points, if the course has space for you.

+1

The answer to all the questions on 'is it likely my course points will drop?' is:

How long is a piece of string???

Nobody knows (except the CAO) how many applied for a course, NOBODY knows how many will accept their offers and how many places will be left over and nobody knows how many people have 5 points below the cut off on the waiting list or if they will all get the offer in Round 2.

Ferris_Bueller

Okay anyone know what I should do here? I got offered a course which I would like to do, however the one I have my heart set on is in UCD and I missed out by ten points. Should I just accept the one I got offered and hope UCDs points drop?

QueenOfLeon

Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

Okay anyone know what I should do here? I got offered a course which I would like to do, however the one I have my heart set on is in UCD and I missed out by ten points. Should I just accept the one I got offered and hope UCDs points drop?

If you'd be genuinely happy to do the one you've been offered (and prepared to do the full course of it), accept it. Then you wait until 2nd round offers, and if the points drop, you'll still get offered your number 1 even though you accepted the other one.

(Assuming the one you accepted is lower on your CAO than the one you want?)

If you want nothing else than to do the one you weren't offered, you'd either have to go back and repeat or hope the points come down next year.

brandy2006

hey guys i was hopin to do childcare studies in cit or ucc but they went way up! was really disappointed with my result, 325, so i could only get into wexford! was just wondering do the points definitly go down in the 2nd round? my next option was to go to waterford(wit) but unfortunately again i was 15 points short! could they go down by 15 points? also on the cao they have vacant/available places offered but i couldnt find waterford(early childhood studies) does that mean the colurse is full up?

QueenOfLeon

brandy2006 wrote: »

hey guys i was hopin to do childcare studies in cit or ucc but they went way up! was really disappointed with my result, 325, so i could only get into wexford! was just wondering do the points definitly go down in the 2nd round? my next option was to go to waterford(wit) but unfortunately again i was 15 points short! could they go down by 15 points? also on the cao they have vacant/available places offered but i couldnt find waterford(early childhood studies) does that mean the colurse is full up?

No. For a lot of courses they don't move at all. Don't depend on the 2nd round. The points will drop only if people who were offered that course decide not to take it for some reason.

Is the course the exact same in Wexford?

brandy2006

yes it is the exact same course but waterford is a lot nearer to me than wexford! oh well thats a shame, but if a handful of applicants refuse the offer lets say in wit, do the points go down by much? also on the cao website there are vacant/available courses but the wit one isnt there, does that mean the places are full up

QueenOfLeon

brandy2006 wrote: »

yes it is the exact same course but waterford is a lot nearer to me than wexford! oh well thats a shame, but if a handful of applicants refuse the offer lets say in wit, do the points go down by much? also on the cao website there are vacant/available courses but the wit one isnt there, does that mean the places are full up

If 1 person refuses it they'll give the place to the next person in line...the person with the highest points, or random selection between the people with the highest points. So it'll just depend how many don't take it! If its a Level 7 people who got offered it might take their level 8 instead. You'll just have to wait and see

About vacant places, theres a sticky at the top of the forum about it, but if its not on the list you can't apply for it. Keep an eye on the list though.

randylonghorn

brandy2006 wrote: »

also on the cao website there are vacant/available courses but the wit one isnt there, does that mean the places are full up

No, it means that courses on the list have already exhausted all applicants, so there's no-one waiting for it in Round 2.

A few courses may already be full from places accepted, but the majority will have at least a couple of places available for Round 2.

brandy2006

ok thanks a lot for yere help!!! but just say somehow i get offered a place in waterford, how is it possible i would be able to get registered there when the 2nd round offers come out on the 2nd aswell as the registration for wit?? seems highly unlikely!!!:(

salthillman

Good luck to everyone for the 2nd round! I only need my course to drop 15 points!

brandy2006

me too, i only need my course to go down 15 points! well it wasnt my first preference choice but its a lot nearer to me than the course i accepted in the first round, and anyway all my courses are the same! i wonder can coourses go down by 15 points or more in the 2nd, or do they give out the remainibg offers to applicants next on the list for a place or can they go by entry requirements.? i think my entry requirements were quite good!

randylonghorn

brandy2006 wrote: »

do they give out the remainibg offers to applicants next on the list for a place or can they go by entry requirements.? i think my entry requirements were quite good!

Provided people have the minimum entry requirements, places will then be allocated in order by total points.

irish_man

i need my course to go down by 10.....not a chance of it happening though!

Kinvara90

Would anybody know what are the chances of UCC dropping Government from 330 to 325 in the CAO round 2 offers on 2nd September 2010?!!!

randylonghorn

Kinvara90 wrote: »

Would anybody know what are the chances of UCC dropping Government from 330 to 325 in the CAO round 2 offers on 2nd September 2010?!!!

Dude, not being smart, but nobody has any more clue than yourself, tbh.

Irelandperson

I cant believe I am only 5 points off my course went up by 75 points I am gutted please god 2nd round I get an offer

cocoshovel

Need by course to drop by at least 35 points. :pac: It went up 65 this year

Aragneer

I got arts for UCD and just thought I'd let everyone know that I'm actually not taking it so my place will be spare

C__MC

If i accept my second choice before next thursday week and then my first chioce has a drop in points could I still get offered it??