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Enter the Void

  • 22-08-2010 11:12pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭


    Having seen Irreversible, I was prepared for expecting something different. But this just left my brain numb, in a good way. It's going to take a few days to take it all in. It's an amazing piece of work, perhaps self indulgent, with very trippy visuals. It's a bit drawn out in length but will leave you emotionally drained at the end.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    Saw it at jdiff earlier in the year, instantly became one of my favorite movies.

    Hope it gets a decent release here. :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,019 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Surprised this hasn't gotten a release yet. Looking forward to it, although am prepares for mind melt. I saw the opening credits somewhere. Lunacy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,958 ✭✭✭Chad ghostal


    Was really looking forward to this having 'enjoyed' both Irreversible and I Stand Alone and but was a left a little bit disappointed. After a really interesting start the last third of the film really lets it down imo. (minor)
    If you've paid attention to the conversation at the start of the film you know how it's going to finish, so just end up waiting around for the inevitable, while the various stories are slowly wrapped up
    .

    It's definitely something you'd want to see on the big screen to get the most out of.. As you can tell from the trailer, the visuals accentuate Tokyos lights and sounds and mixed with the internal monologue you get a very effective first person perspective (of what it's like to be someone tripping balls :p)

    I would recommend it with the caveats that it's overlong, features the same kind of graphic tone as Gasper Noes previous films and as jester said, will leave you emotionally drained in the end :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 Cobraverde


    Saw Gasper Noe's (Irreversible) new picture at the Dublin film festival in February and still is the best film of the year so far. Finally it gets a release Sep 24th at the IFI, do not miss!

    Opening Credits:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPxgi-PiNFE

    Trailer:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRNpSKsBKw8&feature=related


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,956 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    That trailer looks very weird and odd.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭duckysauce


    frog version of smack my bitch up:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,076 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Dr. Kermode of the BBC saw it this week, and gave an "instant review" afterwards, here. He hardly needed to say anything, since he looked like he was in a bunker, just after a bombing raid during the Blitz. (161 minutes!)

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 Cobraverde


    duckysauce wrote: »
    frog version of smack my bitch up:p


    ...which was itself inspired by Robert Montgomery's Lady In The Lake.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    bnt wrote: »
    (161 minutes!)
    Actually it's getting a shortened 135 minute release here. Still I shall see it again it's like I've been having withdrawal symptoms since that JDIFF screening, it's that good.

    Anywhere else playing it other than the IFI?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,019 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Well holy ****.

    I've never seen anything like this film. I came out feeling like my brain had been violated by a strobe light. It's a visual mind****, the camera and soundtrack never ever giving you a moments rest over the extended running time. The viewpoints are almost videogame like - first person, over the shoulder, ceiling shots - and again never stay still. Technically - the lighting, hallucinogenic imagery, a neon Tokyo, the low moaning soundtrack punctuated with techno music - it's absolutely astounding, probably one of the most impressive technical cinematic feats I've ever had the profound displeasure to experience. It's that wonderful, hellish opening half hour of Irreversible stretched to five times the length. It is undoubtedly mind melting.

    The storyline, though, is a crock of ****. Total muck. If Noe's intention was to create a hell on Earth, he's succeeded - rarely has such a parade of absolute unpleasantness existed. Atmospherically, it's deeply unsettling and ugly. This is what Noe sets out to do - like the first half of Irreversible, the goal is to shock and disgust the viewer, and he does it better than anyone. However, stretched over like 150 minutes (and honestly, this seemed like the longer cut - the film started around 8.40 and I didn't leave the IFI til 11.10) his crass storytelling really comes to light. Every disgusting taboo he can break is broken and violated. The characters are painted in ridiculously broad strokes, their sole purpose to wind up in the most despicable place they possibly can. Viscerally, sequences like
    the endlessly repeated car crash
    certainly resonate and surprise. But the repetitive focus on
    incest, strip clubs and humiliating sex
    quickly wears thin - all the points and themes were examined in the gloriously grim first 45 minutes, but endlessly repeated to the point of satire.
    The breastfeeding motif particularly is absolutely ridiculous. The ending 'climax' (snicker) had the vast majority of the cinema laughing their heads off - a poorly CGIed shot of an ejaculating penis in a vagina, followed by the rebirth of our long deceased protagonist
    . The heavy themes are interesting,
    such as the focus on rebirth and spirituality, which the constant presence the Tibetan Book of the Dead reminds us off.
    But they are so bloody
    (literally, when it comes to the graphic abortion scene)
    in your face and obnoxious in the final act, it's just annoying. The final act of Irreversible sucked, the final act (and a good bit of the second) of Enter the Void sucks. Gasper Noe may know how to film a scene, but he writes it in the most crass, broad way imaginable.

    Not to worry, this film is hell incarnate. That Noe has certainly achieved. There is nothing like Enter the Void, and despite the serious storytelling problems, it's a pretty much vital experience for any cinema fan. It's been some time since I've been so fascinated by a film - so impressed by the technical prowess, so infuriated by the narrative. Watch it on the big screen - this is a film that demands a sensory overdose, and on that front at least, Noe has succeeded. This isn't the best film of the year by a long shot, but it's probably the one I'm glad I saw.

    Oh, and it has the best opening credits ever.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    Saw it again today.

    Awesome awesome awesome, even with 20 minutes missing. I walked through Dublin afterwards feeling as though I was still in the film, it so easily transcends it's many flaws.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,019 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    e_e wrote: »
    Saw it again today.

    Awesome awesome awesome, even with 20 minutes missing. I walked through Dublin afterwards feeling as though I was still in the film, it so easily transcends it's many flaws.

    Yeah I had to leg it to the bus stop in a daze. Damn film ran 20 minutes longer than advertised :pac:

    May I enquire what kind of scenes were missing from this cut? I honestly thought it felt far too overstretched as it is now!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    There was a scene where Oscar's body re-awakens in the morgue and he is basically a vegetable, very eery. It happens just before it shows Linda waking up in the park so it was clearly a dark dream she had. It also shows her (after waking up) pouring Oscar's ashes down the sink. When watching at JDIFF the film really began to f**k with my emotions then.

    It was (for me) easily the most disturbing scene, like something from Inland Empire.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    ...and yeah inexplicably it ran longer than 135 minutes!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,019 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    e_e wrote: »
    There was a scene where Oscar's body re-awakens in the morgue and he is basically a vegetable, very eery. It happens just before it shows Linda waking up in the park so it was clearly a dark dream she had. It also shows her (after waking up) pouring Oscar's ashes down the sink. When watching at JDIFF the film really began to f**k with my emotions then.

    It was (for me) easily the most disturbing scene, like something from Inland Empire.

    Sorry, spoiler tagged your post as there is some major stuff in there :pac:

    Missing scenes sound interesting. There was definitely a bit of emotional ****ery going on in this film, felt really weird during some sequences like
    child Linda yelling after the car crash or the cremation sequence.

    Funny you mention Inland Empire, was one film this definitely reminded me of (not least because of the unsuitability of IFI2 for films that are two hours plus!). Felt similarly drained after that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    Was thinking of checking this out on Tuesday, it's been getting mixed reviews but it looks to good visualy to be missed out on a big screen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭xtal191


    Was thinking of checking this out on Tuesday, it's been getting mixed reviews but it looks to good visualy to be missed out on a big screen.

    Its a must see in the cinema, you should def check it out!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,019 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Yeah, this is a film to see on the big screen in glorious 2.35:1! It pretty much demands to be seen in a cinema.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    I'm gonna check it out, it was just thhis part of the empire review that put me off slightly,
    it becomes a misogynistic, metaphysical dirge that necessitates super-close-ups of Linda’s weeping, Linda’s vagina, Linda’s abortion (plus dead foetus), dead-eyed graphic sex, ejaculation, conception and birth.

    Sounds like a delightful little romp. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    Whoever wrote that review obviously had it in for Noé from the start. The reviews are fairly positive here:

    http://www.metacritic.com/movie/enter-the-void/critic-reviews

    But let's face it this was never going to be one to gain unanimous approval/dismissal. This'll still be given cinema screenings in years time, trust me it'll be a true cult classic. Might as well see it in this format while it's still on release.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,019 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    For anyone who's seen it, there's a SPOILER filled interview with Noe over yonder AV Club.

    I enjoyed the very last bit of the interview particularly, Noe on the
    CGI ejaculation
    scene:
    I don’t know if I should worry or not, but the image of the penis coming at the camera at the end was not meant to be funny. People are laughing so much. I don’t know if it’s a nervous reaction or because it’s really funny. But I thought it would be epic or mythological or dramatic, like the rest of the movie. Or dream. If you saw that in your own dreams, you would not laugh.

    I'm sorry, Mr. Noe, but that is the one bit of the film that I thought was genuinely hilariously poorly delivered! There are plenty of bits that I found pretty suspect delivery wise, but that one bit had me in unintentional stitches!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    Seen this tonight, had a few drinks afterwards(which were needed). Mental. I'll try and give a better insight tomorrow if i can. I've never experienced anything as mindblowing as this visually and then again i've never been as disgusted(in parts) watching a film in all my life.

    I'm drunk. This film was affecting as fnuck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    I saw it at JDIFF. It's one of those films that isn't just a film. It's really (and I know this sounds like a cliche) a cinematic experience. There is no film really like it, and it really beat the crap out of me. It's absolutely worth a watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,961 ✭✭✭LionelNashe


    I saw it this evening - I think that the above mentioned CGI'd scene caused sniggers in the audience because it was just the last straw in terms of gratuitously shocking the audience. I was thinking "They're not going to show ...Christ, they're showing it"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    I saw it this evening - I think that the above mentioned CGI'd scene caused sniggers in the audience because it was just the last straw in terms of gratuitously shocking the audience. I was thinking "They're not going to show ...Christ, they're showing it"

    I was so happy everybody laughed at that it really broke the tension and eased the atmosphere in the room, which, at that stage was severely needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭christeb


    Looks like it finishes tomorrow in the IFI, I'll have to go and check it out after work.

    Thanks for the reviews guys


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭christeb


    christeb wrote: »
    Looks like it finishes tomorrow in the IFI, I'll have to go and check it out after work.

    Thanks for the reviews guys

    Sold out wehen I went down last night - quite disappointed. I'll have to wait until I get my home cinema set up :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    christeb wrote: »
    Sold out wehen I went down last night - quite disappointed. I'll have to wait until I get my home cinema set up :cool:
    Argh that's why I try to book ahead earlier in the day.

    Film deserved a longer run imo, perhaps if it moved on to Screen or Lighthouse but since the film hasn't been rated I think that's a long shot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    what a head fck that was


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    Is this getting a wider release by any chance?

    Wonder will the Eye in Galway have it?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    I might watch it tonight, maybe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭Phony Scott


    I was thinking of seeing it tonight and I was suffering from a hangover all day. Then I saw the credit sequence...



    I think I'm going to be sick! :(


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,019 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I was thinking of seeing it tonight and I was suffering from a hangover all day. Then I saw the credit sequence...

    I think I'm going to be sick! :(

    Best part of the film.

    Now imagine a camera spinning around as if the tripod is loose for two and a half hours and you're about a twentieth of the way there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭Phony Scott


    Now imagine a camera spinning around as if the tripod is loose for two and a half hours and you're about a twentieth of the way there.
    I kinda expected it to be something like irreversible, but this is a much more mind rape by the looks of the credits!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    In some ways it's more disturbing (in a psychological way) than Irreversible. However there's no
    repetitive head smashing or 10 minute rape scenes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,530 ✭✭✭patch


    As a viewer who thought irreversible was a very well made and effecting movie, this is tosh in comparison.
    I have great tolerance for watching self indulgent film making provided I see a couple of decent scenes, but the director is clearly having a laugh here.
    At least 2/3's of the movie is a camera swirling either over a building or through it.
    Being technically proficient with a camera is fine unless you repeat the same thing over and over. And over. It's like an endurance test!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,496 ✭✭✭quarryman


    Any screens still showing this?

    Or does anyone know when its out on DVD?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭Phony Scott


    quarryman wrote: »
    Or does anyone know when its out on DVD?

    April 4, 2011


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,925 ✭✭✭Otis Driftwood


    Watched it yesterday.While its a visualling stunning movie it is a supreme example of style over substance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Sea Sharp


    Watched it last night,
    Definitely worth watching but I can see why they had to cut it down for the second release.
    The majority of the last half hour in particular just felt dragged out, pointless and needlessly 'artistic'.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    Sea Sharp wrote: »
    needlessly 'artistic'.
    What does this even mean?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    e_e wrote: »
    What does this even mean?

    Think it's self explanatory really :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,496 ✭✭✭quarryman



    Wha? Ages away :(


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,019 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    nedtheshed wrote: »
    Watched it yesterday.While its a visualling stunning movie it is a supreme example of style over substance.

    It is one of those films - alongside the likes of Vincent Gallo's output - where pretentious seems like a perfectly valid criticism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,925 ✭✭✭Otis Driftwood


    It is one of those films - alongside the likes of Vincent Gallo's output - where pretentious seems like a perfectly valid criticism.

    Aye,Gallo is an odd one too.

    I did "like" Into The Void but it seriously OD's on the trippy visuals,sweeping shots etc.All that led to me not being able to concentrate properly as I found it to be kinda distracting.

    Or maybe it was because I had watched Irreversible right before I watched it,my poor brain was melted by 18.30 Saturday evening!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    Can someone confirm for me that this has been on wide release in Dublin?

    Or was it just at the JDIFF?

    Chances of getting in Galway? We usually get the IFI films in the Eye cinema when they're finished with them up there.

    Would love to see it on the big screen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    Think it's self explanatory really :)
    I really don't know. All films are art, so therefore one can't really be "needlessly artistic"


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,019 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    kraggy wrote: »
    Can someone confirm for me that this has been on wide release in Dublin?

    Or was it just at the JDIFF?

    Chances of getting in Galway? We usually get the IFI films in the Eye cinema when they're finished with them up there.

    Would love to see it on the big screen.

    Just an IFI release I think, don't think it made it to other cinemas.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,241 ✭✭✭Vic Vinegar


    Sanjuro wrote: »
    I saw it at JDIFF. It's one of those films that isn't just a film. It's really (and I know this sounds like a cliche) a cinematic experience. There is no film really like it, and it really beat the crap out of me. It's absolutely worth a watch.

    I agree with you totally. It really sticks in your head after you watch it. Hard to define but certainly a warped masterpiece in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,255 ✭✭✭Renn


    No time to write up on this but for me it was the best release in 2010.


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