Modding my 360

Stab*City

hi all so i have decided to soft mod my 360 if possible.. looks like my model is falcon and dash number is 2.0.9199.0

Is there a way to mod this type of 360?

Myrddin

Stab*City wrote: »

hi all so i have decided to soft mod my 360 if possible.. looks like my model is falcon and dash number is 2.0.9199.0

Is there a way to mod this type of 360?

There's two types of 360 mod;

1)JTAG
2)Drive Flash

Your dash version is too high now, & isnt vulnerble to a JTAG hack. But you can flash your drive. What type of drive do you have?

Stab*City

EnterNow wrote: »

There's two types of 360 mod;

1)JTAG
2)Drive Flash

Your dash version is too high now, & isnt vulnerble to a JTAG hack. But you can flash your drive. What type of drive do you have?

Looks like the benq VAD-6038

from this pic:http://www.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://www.vncs.us/X360/Fix/xbox_360_dvd_model_identification.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.vncs.us/X360/Fix/Index.html&h=800&w=1000&sz=165&tbnid=uQQYCidWFuaRvM:&tbnh=119&tbnw=149&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dxbox%2B360%2Bdrive%2Bidentification&zoom=1&usg=__amWiHou29znrCDkIwqROUCXKtEw=&sa=X&ei=MpJuTPChA9W6jAfrsOX6CA&ved=0CCkQ9QEwAw


Does that sound right?

Myrddin

Yep, but according to that link there's one more check to perform if it looks like a BenQ/Liteon. Did you check the wire colour? This method could be well old by now, it's been a while since I did homework on flashing.

Stab*City

Ya im going by the wire colour and the look of the drive itself..

Myrddin

Stab*City wrote: »

Ya im going by the wire colour and the look of the drive itself..

Cool, looks like it handy to do. What OS are you on? I tried JungleFlasher with Win7 x64 & had very limited success. Tried it with DosFlasher & it worked first time.

BenQ is one of the easiest xbox drives to flash, go to jungleflasher.net download he tutorial and application, read the benQ section plenty of times.

Never flash or erase the firmware without having the original firmware with valid drive key.

Stab*City

EnterNow wrote: »

Cool, looks like it handy to do. What OS are you on? I tried JungleFlasher with Win7 x64 & had very limited success. Tried it with DosFlasher & it worked first time.

win 7 x64 as well here.. not sure of the procedure though.. is it reversible as well?

wotzgoingon

As in flash back to original.
Yes it is so long as u hold on to original firmware.

TouchingVirus

Stab*City wrote: »

win 7 x64 as well here.. not sure of the procedure though.. is it reversible as well?

Turn on Test Mode (run a command prompt as administrator, and type ' bcdedit.exe /set TESTSIGNING ON'). Reboot.

Use DSEO to sign portio64.sys. You only have to do this once.

Then start JungleFlasher.

When you're done, turn off Test Mode (by running the same command as above except put OFF instead of ON). Reboot.

Of course there are other ways to run drivers that are not digitally signed (press F8 at boot, and select the option to disable driver signing enforcement) but those didn't work for me while Test Mode does.


Oh, be sure to read the jungleflasher tutorial. And dump your original firmware several times before you even contemplate erasing.

Myrddin

TouchingVirus wrote: »

Turn on Test Mode (run a command prompt as administrator, and type ' bcdedit.exe /set TESTSIGNING ON'). Reboot.

Use DSEO to sign portio64.sys. You only have to do this once.

Then start JungleFlasher.

When you're done, turn off Test Mode (by running the same command as above except put OFF instead of ON). Reboot.

Of course there are other ways to run drivers that are not digitally signed (press F8 at boot, and select the option to disable driver signing enforcement) but those didn't work for me while Test Mode does.


Oh, be sure to read the jungleflasher tutorial. And dump your original firmware several times before you even contemplate erasing.

That works, but it wasn't the problem I was having. The whole procedure was working perfectly for me with JF, reading, erasing, spoofing (replacement drive), & flashing - all without errors. The drive once back in the 360 however, wouldn't run a game. Just kept saying opn tray. Gave up on JF after AGES of messing around, tried DosFlasher - worked first time

TouchingVirus

TouchingVirus wrote: »

Turn on Test Mode (run a command prompt as administrator, and type ' bcdedit.exe /set TESTSIGNING ON'). Reboot.

Use DSEO to sign portio64.sys. You only have to do this once.

Then start JungleFlasher.

When you're done, turn off Test Mode (by running the same command as above except put OFF instead of ON). Reboot.

Of course there are other ways to run drivers that are not digitally signed (press F8 at boot, and select the option to disable driver signing enforcement) but those didn't work for me while Test Mode does.


Oh, be sure to read the jungleflasher tutorial. And dump your original firmware several times before you even contemplate erasing.

The permanent driver disabling worked perfect on my last mobo, but i upgraded to a asus p5q and it was having none of it. Back to the test mode way, works perfect. Browse to the portio64.sys in the JF folder, sign it then enable test mode and reboot.

Stab*City

thanks for all the help guys.. im going to look into the jungleflasher and dosflasher ways of modding..

Stab*City

Ok so im reading through the jungleflasher faq.. and from what i can gather is this correct:

remove drive from 360
connect to laptop (via what cable? ive never opened a 360 before.)
run jungleflasher
flash drive with correct firmware (which is?)
put drive back in 360

is this about right? exactly what functionality will i gain with this method? also i take it i lose xbox live?

Myrddin

Stab*City wrote: »

Ok so im reading through the jungleflasher faq.. and from what i can gather is this correct:

remove drive from 360
connect to laptop (via what cable? ive never opened a 360 before.)
run jungleflasher
flash drive with correct firmware (which is?)
put drive back in 360

is this about right? exactly what functionality will i gain with this method? also i take it i lose xbox live?

Basically;

Open the 360
If your tool-less (as I was doing mine), use the vintage method of leave the 360 to power the dvd drive, but disconnect its sata cable & instead connect an sata from your pc to the 360's drive.
Read out the existing firmware & drive-key, & make a backup of them
Flash ixtreme LT, or whatever custom firmware you wish (make sure your drive-key has been added to the new firmware)

It's never as simple as that without the proper tools etc, but thats the basic premise. By the way it doesnt work with every sata controller, so you may need to check your compatability.

Stab*City

ok looks like i need to pick up a sata cable.. what about doing it on a laptop? my win7 machine is a laptop but i also have a desktop..
will i lose xbox live ya? bye the way thanks for all the help..

Wez

I heard you get a ban flag for using the Xbox you'll sign into Live on, to power your drive when it's being flashed.

It logs that the console was powered on without a DVD drive connected. M$ have linked this to the firmware mods and so justify baning people (although testing my RROD repairs is always awkward having to reconnect DVD drive to avoid this).

I now have one box that I use just for flashing to rule this out altogether, just plug back in your flashed LT drive and you should be fine on Live! I've actually fixed a RROD once by letting it overheat when powering the drive (0022, stubborn one at that) but it's termpermental at times (still works tho!).

Stab*City

Wez wrote: »

I heard you get a ban flag for using the Xbox you'll sign into Live on, to power your drive when it's being flashed.

It logs that the console was powered on without a DVD drive connected. M$ have linked this to the firmware mods and so justify baning people (although testing my RROD repairs is always awkward having to reconnect DVD drive to avoid this).

I now have one box that I use just for flashing to rule this out altogether, just plug back in your flashed LT drive and you should be fine on Live! I've actually fixed a RROD once by letting it overheat when powering the drive (0022, stubborn one at that) but it's termpermental at times (still works tho!).

thanks for that.. looks like ill have to power via a connection kit so ya? can anyone reccomend a good/cheap one? also found a very good guide for beginners on the download section of the jungleflasher site..

TouchingVirus

Stab*City wrote: »

ok looks like i need to pick up a sata cable.. what about doing it on a laptop? my win7 machine is a laptop but i also have a desktop..
will i lose xbox live ya? bye the way thanks for all the help..

Best of luck on a laptop - you need an SATA controller you can plug stuff into, and it has to be supported. Most laptops don't come with this stuff.

Flash with your desktop. If your SATA controller on your desktop's motherboard isn't supported then purchase a VIA 6421 PCI expansion card as that'll definitely work. Do not install any drivers for that VIA card either, if they get auto-installed like on Vista/Win7 then use Device Manager to uninstall the drivers.

@cisk: The F8->Disable Driver Signing Enforcement used to work for me. But for some reason Windows throws a fit now, so I just use the Test Method

@Wez: A flag is set in secdata.bin when you power a console without a drive. However, Microsoft most likely do not ban you just for that. They probably use it as an indicator though to check further, and run whatever checks they ran last November when they pwned people with the banhammer.

Stab*City

anyone know where there is a list to supported sata controllers?

this is the one my sata drive on my xp desktop shows under in device manager:

Intel (R) 82801FB Ultra ATA Storage Controller - 2651

TouchingVirus

Stab*City wrote: »

Intel (R) 82801FB Ultra ATA Storage Controller - 2651

That is Ultra ATA, this is a 40-pin legacy connection and is not SATA. I take it your desktop isn't quite new then?

Stab*City

TouchingVirus wrote: »

That is Ultra ATA, this is a 40-pin legacy connection and is not SATA. I take it your desktop isn't quite new then?

Ok thanks for that.. looks like i need to get a sata cable, the pci card, and the xbox360 connection kit.. where can i get the connection kit cant seem to find it on ebay..

TouchingVirus

Stab*City wrote: »

Ok thanks for that.. looks like i need to get a sata cable, the pci card, and the xbox360 connection kit.. where can i get the connection kit cant seem to find it on ebay..

The SATA cable and VIA 6421 PCI card can be had on ebay/dealextreme for next to nothing.

The most common connection kit is the Xecutor CK3 Pro with CK3 Probe v2, which works on all drives. I'd hold out for a little while on purchasing the gear though, because the Probe v2 may not dump the 'Slim' drive and there might be a Probe v3, I don't know. http://www.ck3.co.uk is one site, there are others out there that sell it too.

Please bear in mind that the CK3 needs to be powered with a Molex 4-pin power plug, so make sure your computer's powersupply has one spare. They look like this:

nbrady20009

I've had the same problem with the laptop. I bought a via pci card from ck3 foolishly, not realising it would not work with the laptop. So now I'm looking for a decent USB to eSATA cable. If your interested in that via pci card give us a shout, other wise have a look on the ck3 website or here for USB to eSATA cables: http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_9?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=esata+to+usb+cable&x=0&y=0&sprefix=eSATA+to+

Stab*City

nbrady20009 wrote: »

I've had the same problem with the laptop. I bought a via pci card from ck3 foolishly, not realising it would not work with the laptop. So now I'm looking for a decent USB to eSATA cable. If your interested in that via pci card give us a shout, other wise have a look on the ck3 website or here for USB to eSATA cables: http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_9?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=esata+to+usb+cable&x=0&y=0&sprefix=eSATA+to+

Is it this one? Ya i might be interested..

http://www.ck3.co.uk/VIA-6421-PCI-Sata-Card-Xecuter-Approved.html

pm me with details..

so then all i need is this ya?

http://www.ck3.co.uk/xecuter-ck3-pro.html

TouchingVirus

Stab*City wrote: »

Is it this one? Ya i might be interested..

http://www.ck3.co.uk/VIA-6421-PCI-Sata-Card-Xecuter-Approved.html

pm me with details..

so then all i need is this ya?

http://www.ck3.co.uk/xecuter-ck3-pro.html

VIA card is overpriced - http://shop.ebay.ie/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m570.l1313&_nkw=VIA+6421

Pick up your SATA cable on ebay too.

And yes, the CK3 Pro is what you need, but you'll want a Probe v2 too, or an LT Switch v1.5, or an LT Switch & LT Clip for a no-solder solution. On the latest LiteOn drives you'll need to open the drive and cut some traces on the PCB

Stab*City

TouchingVirus wrote: »

VIA card is overpriced - http://shop.ebay.ie/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m570.l1313&_nkw=VIA+6421

Pick up your SATA cable on ebay too.

And yes, the CK3 Pro is what you need, but you'll want a Probe v2 too, or an LT Switch v1.5, or an LT Switch & LT Clip for a no-solder solution. On the latest LiteOn drives you'll need to open the drive and cut some traces on the PCB

Cool thanks ya i was looking at ebay for the cable and sata card..

as for the probe v2 do i need this when i have a benq drive not a liteon?

TouchingVirus

If you have a Benq drive then you don't even need the CK3, just the PCI card & SATA cable will do

Stab*City

ok the reason i thought i needed the ck3 was to power the drive without leaving a marker for microsoft and losing xbox live.. so do you still think i dont need it?

TouchingVirus

Stab*City wrote: »

ok the reason i thought i needed the ck3 was to power the drive without leaving a marker for microsoft and losing xbox live.. so do you still think i dont need it?

I'll be perfectly honest, if you want to keep xbox live then you shouldn't crack your firmware. You shouldn't play backups online at all. If you do then you're always running the risk of a banning. Last year people reported that even though they used the CK3 or another method to power the drive for flashing they still got banned. The powering-on-console-without-dvd-drive flag is only an indicator that something is amiss - Microsoft utilise other checks, over a period of time, to verify that you have indeed modified the console.

If you ask me, it makes no difference which way you power the drive for flashing. If you flash your drive it won't be the way you powered it on that'll give up the ghost, it's the firmware itself

Myrddin

Stab*City wrote: »

ok the reason i thought i needed the ck3 was to power the drive without leaving a marker for microsoft and losing xbox live.. so do you still think i dont need it?

Your really better off having one console for use online, & the other to mess about with. It's the only TRULY safe way. There's a new kernel coming too I heard, with direct firmware auditing, so eventually, that console your about to mod will NOT be able to go online regardless of what method you use.