David Haye...are you having a laugh?

Benny Lava

Apparently David Haye is closing in on a fight with Audley Harrison. I can't believe he thinks he's going to get away with this. The same guy who annoyed the hell out of the Klitschkos and wore t-shirts of him holding their severed heads has backed out of fighting either of them and is now taking on a shot Audley Harrison, who lets face is was never really that good in his prime and was a letdown as a professional. He won prizefighter against some pretty poor opposition (ok Coleman Barrett wasn't that bad I guess) and then struggled against a journeyman and won with a lucky punch. How the hell does this put him in the reckoning for a world title fight? Even the winner of Chisora/Sexton would be a more credible opponent but still nowhere near the level he should be fighting. If he's afraid of the Klitschkos he should fight Adamek or someone. I don't see how the British public can defend him if this fight goes ahead. It will be an absolute disgrace and the thought of it being on PPV makes my blood boil.

seadnamac

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/boxingandmma/7953408/David-Haye-v-Audley-Harrison-fight-could-form-Manny-Pacquiao-precursor.html

-oRnein9-

Benny Lava wrote: »

Apparently David Haye is closing in on a fight with Audley Harrison. I can't believe he thinks he's going to get away with this. The same guy who annoyed the hell out of the Klitschkos and wore t-shirts of him holding their severed heads has backed out of fighting either of them and is now taking on a shot Audley Harrison, who lets face is was never really that good in his prime and was a letdown as a professional. He won prizefighter against some pretty poor opposition (ok Coleman Barrett wasn't that bad I guess) and then struggled against a journeyman and won with a lucky punch. How the hell does this put him in the reckoning for a world title fight? Even the winner of Chisora/Sexton would be a more credible opponent but still nowhere near the level he should be fighting. If he's afraid of the Klitschkos he should fight Adamek or someone. I don't see how the British public can defend him if this fight goes ahead. It will be an absolute disgrace and the thought of it being on PPV makes my blood boil.

David Haye is a coward. Harrison will be almost 40 by the the time the fight happens, Haye is 29. My thoughts are that boxing in general is beyond a joke these days

getz

-oRnein9- wrote: »

David Haye is a coward. Harrison will be almost 40 by the the time the fight happens, Haye is 29. My thoughts are that boxing in general is beyond a joke these days

every fighter has a right to have a easy payday,you have to remember boxing is a short life, what he earns now has to set him up for the rest of his life,if the punters pay to watch him,i say good luck to him

whaaames

getz wrote: »

every fighter has a right to have a easy payday,you have to remember boxing is a short life, what he earns now has to set him up for the rest of his life,if the punters pay to watch him,i say good luck to him

That in no way excuses him from taking this fight, it has NOTHING repeat NOTHING of appeal to anybody...Who wants to watch haye outclass possibly the most over rated heavyweight EVER...

The fact that they're both british wont even hold up in this one,..

JOKE

megadodge

Not for one second do I want this fight to happen, but...

it will sell in England.

They are both big names over there and a lot of people will tune in, even if it's just to see Harrison get beaten.

Mark my words.

The Davestator

megadodge wrote: »

Not for one second do I want this fight to happen, but...

it will sell in England.

They are both big names over there and a lot of people will tune in, even if it's just to see Harrison get beaten.

Mark my words.

Totally agree - The brits hate harrison as much as we do!

Very disappointed with Haye, but I will watch it because I absolutely hate 'A Force'!

walshb

This fight will definitely sell. Thing is, I am not sold on Haye at all.
He was dreadful in his last bout against the woefully inept
Ruiz; maybe Audley can cause him more problems even?

Feargal as Luimneach

walshb wrote: »

This fight will definitely sell. Thing is, I am not sold on Haye at all.
He was dreadful in his last bout against the woefully inept
Ruiz; maybe Audley can cause him more problems even?

Yip eventhough Fraudley was brutal in his fight against Sprott, he does have unreal power. One good power punch on Haye's chin and it's over.

TechnoPool

Carl ''the Fridge'' Baker would give him a better fight than fraudley...

supersean1999

i would laugh my arse off is haye gets cocky and gets caught cold lol, only chance harrison has is in first 3 rounds, stranger things have happened, and as bad as this fight is, it will be more exciting than the CLITS last few fights combined

walshb

supersean1999 wrote: »

i would laugh my arse off is haye gets cocky and gets caught cold lol, only chance harrison has is in first 3 rounds, stranger things have happened, and as bad as this fight is, it will be more exciting than the CLITS last few fights combined

The way I see it is that Haye needs to be alert for a posible 12 rds.
Haye seems to weaken as rds go by. His stamina is far from great, and if he cannot get Audley out early, it may well be Haye panicking and tiring and open. So, Audley has a chance as LONG as he is there, not just three rds in.

The Davestator

A force has no chance - when he's attacked, he's like a rabbit in headlights, and a novice rabbit at that!

I'll eat my words if this goes past round one

supersean1999

walshb wrote: »

The way I see it is that Haye needs to be alert for a posible 12 rds.
Haye seems to weaken as rds go by. His stamina is far from great, and if he cannot get Audley out early, it may well be Haye panicking and tiring and open. So, Audley has a chance as LONG as he is there, not just three rds in.

haye done ok dancing for 12 against valuev dont u think, looked a lot more mobile than harrison has ever looked for 12 rds, ill take back my prediction 2 rounds not 3

Boooourns

First time i will ever be up for Audley.

supersean1999

walshb wrote: »

The way I see it is that Haye needs to be alert for a posible 12 rds.
Haye seems to weaken as rds go by. His stamina is far from great, and if he cannot get Audley out early, it may well be Haye panicking and tiring and open. So, Audley has a chance as LONG as he is there, not just three rds in.

on a serious note, every fighter no matter how bad has a chance when in there, i just think he has a very chance, but i think id like him to win, would be gas

cowzerp

Harrison could ko haye, if he actually throws a punch!

What a joke of fight, but like most i'll prob watch it!!
not ppv though-no way.

nacho libre

It would be hilarious if Audley won. We'd never hear the end of it from him!! how he never gave up on his dream and how knew he'd be world champion one day! The Ukranian brothers would be distraught if Audley won. They know a clash with Haye is the most lucrative fight out there for either of them. I expect Haye to win this as Audley will clam up and get taken out. If he wasn't such a scaredy cat he'd have a decent chance of knocking Haye out.

JonathanAnon

supersean1999 wrote: »

on a serious note, every fighter no matter how bad has a chance when in there, i just think he has a very chance, but i think id like him to win, would be gas

I agree, this could be one of the funniest moments in British boxing history.. well, not for them. I mean if their great new hope Haye gets beaten by frAudley the hasbeen where do they go from there.. Surely not Harrison vs either Klitschko?

JonathanAnon

Sky News are reporting this story on their boxing headlines, the release of a new video on youtube by the HayeMaker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WeNpO7MoE4

keane=cock

i like haye as a fighter. not necessarilly a heavyweight(valuez fight was terrible but the ruiz one was entertaining). i have watched most of his fights but 100% i will not watch this fight.

first off haye has been bad mouthing the klitchkos for ages n now one wants a fight off him he takes on audley f@ckiing harrisson? leave it out.

second off what has harrison done to deserve a world title fight?

JacksonHeightsOwn

keane=cock wrote: »

i like haye as a fighter. not necessarilly a heavyweight(valuez fight was terrible but the ruiz one was entertaining). i have watched most of his fights but 100% i will not watch this fight.

first off haye has been bad mouthing the klitchkos for ages n now one wants a fight off him he takes on audley f@ckiing harrisson? leave it out.

second off what has harrison done to deserve a world title fight?

im pretty like you

i like David Haye, the man outside of the ring,

but inside, he's an arrogant cock, and i cant stand him

and this blatant dodging of real contenders has infuriated me

if he couldnt agree terms with the Klitschos, why didnt he try and fight James Toney then?

Haye has a plan to be retired in 2 or 3 years, and he obviously just wants to make as much money as he can, but without the real challenges of fighting genuine heavyweights

joepenguin

If Haye takes the fight I hope Audley sparks him. Fair enough if he was after beating a klitscko or someone but not now.

Big Ears

chrisbonnie wrote: »

if he couldnt agree terms with the Klitschos, why didnt he try and fight James Toney then?

, eh......what ?

whaaames

chrisbonnie wrote: »

if he couldnt agree terms with the Klitschos, why didnt he try and fight James Toney then?

Haye has a plan to be retired in 2 or 3 years, and he obviously just wants to make as much money as he can, but without the real challenges of fighting genuine heavyweights

Because he knows James Toney can still box, he might be slow and out of shape but the man can still bang, and for me would be a risk for Haye...which he has no shown he is not willing to take...

Big Ears

whaaames wrote: »

Because he knows James Toney can still box, he might be slow and out of shape but the man can still bang, and for me would be a risk for Haye...which he has no shown he is not willing to take...

listen, I'm not exactly happy about this whole Harrison vs Haye thing(if it does indeed materialise), but Audley would stop James Toney and he'd do it easily enough aswell.

Toney is beyond shot and his chin has finally deteriorated and the man could never bang at Heavyweight either. In his last fight(a year ago) he got rocked by a very poor standard journeyman. In his fight before that he got a gift against Fres Oquendo and imo didn't win more than 4 rounds. Oquendo had Toney hurt aswell.

In his fight before that him and Rahman together showed how they're both shot, I had Rahman 2-1 up at the time it was stopped but that's not really relevant as we were only 3 rounds in.

In his fight before that he got rocked by a journeyman and won a split decision.

Before that he had the two losses to Peter and once again he was rocked in one of those fights, I can't remember which but it was when he held onto the ropes with his right hand and Peter nailed him with his right.

And finally we reach the draw with Rahman, where Toney was lucky to get a draw. That's 4 and a half years ago and that's about how long ago Toney was actually a factor in this division. He turned down $1 million dollars to fight Wladamir Klitschko around that time, something that he seems to omit everything he makes one of his videos mocking the brothers.
he had 2 knockouts in his 11 fights at Heavyweight and one was in his last fight against a very poor standard journeyman. He had never shown he can punch at Heavyweight and that's because he can't.

James Toney turns 42 on tuesday, and he used to be an amazing fighter down at Middleweight and Super-Middleweight. But what we have left is a 42 year old man, that can't take a punch, hasn't got much power, hasn't got any legs left, doesn't have the same speed or reflexes he used to, has started to suffer big problems in his speech pattern and is also a drugs cheat.
What he isn't, is a Heavyweight contender.

His 'trash talking' manages to convince people to believe in him long past the time when they should have given up on him. The guy has only ever beaten 1 top 10 Heavyweight and that was 7 years ago, he is as irrelevant to this current heavyweight division as Lennox Lewis.

Joe Luis

david haye is definately not a coward he's fought some tough guys in his time, many of them in their own back yard but really Audley Harrison?? Yeah its very disapointing, I think he knows that it will generate a fair bit on paperview even though the result is a foregone conclusion. Then he'll be able to say to the two boys ... look how much I earn per fight give me a bigger cut

though I do seem to remember wlad saying he was willing to split 50 -50 so maybe Haye is just looking to pad out the wallet before taking a big risk against one of the brothers

Joe Luis

whaaames wrote: »

Because he knows James Toney can still box, he might be slow and out of shape but the man can still bang, and for me would be a risk for Haye...which he has no shown he is not willing to take...

James Toney????? Are you serious?? You could have at least said Tua or something (even though he is well past it too) Tua being a risk I could understand but James Toney???

I mean come on

walshb

"but Audley would stop James Toney and he'd do it easily enough aswell"

"can't take a punch."

Are you serious? 80 fights or thereabouts and the guy was barely ever troubled, wobbled or hurt. You think Harrisson is gonna' KO/TKO him?:rolleyes:
What makes you think he cannot take a punch? If he was KOd recently it may lend weight
to this point, but he has never ever been KOd, not close to ever being KOd

Hey, he may well beat the guy, but no man yet has ever managed to even put a beating on James Toney. Yes, Jones beat him, but he didn't put a beating on him. I would say that Audley would find it damn hard to even land much on Toney.

James' chin is steel, but it's the guys ridiculous defense and relaxed style
that allows him NOT to be stopped or KOd.

BTW, right now I have no idea what boxing shape the guy is in, but if he is close to a few years ago, that will see him NEVER getting stopped by Harrisson.

joepenguin

If Audley boxed well for a couple of rounds he would drop Toney fairly easily with the left paw.

Big Ears

walshb wrote: »

"but Audley would stop James Toney and he'd do it easily enough aswell"

"can't take a punch."

Are you serious? 80 fights and the guy was barely ever troubled, wobbled or hurt. You think Harrisson is gonna' KO/TKO him?:rolleyes:
What makes you think he cannot take a punch? If he was KOd recently it may lend weight
to this point, but he has never ever been KOd, not close to ever being KOd

Hey, he may well beat the guy, but no man yet has ever managed to even put a beating on James Toney. Yes, Jones beat him, but he didn't put a beating on him. I would say that Audley would find it damn hard to even land much on Toney.

James' chin is steel, but it's the guys ridiculous defense and relaxed style
that allows him NOT to be stopped or KOd.

BTW, right now I have no idea what boxing shape the guy is in, but if he is close to a few years ago, that will see him NEVER getting stopped by Harrisson.

Have you seen any of his last 4 fights ?, he got rocked in 3 of them all by guys who are not punchers. His punch resistance is gone. His speed is gone. His reflexes are gone. His timing is not what it used to be. His mobility is completely gone. His stamina seems very poor. He's done.

Honestly Walshb if you saw his last fight you'd realise Coleman Barrett would have at least a 50/50 chance(probably better) at beating Toney and not a bad chance at stopping him either. Well that's if his last fight is anything to go by, it's been a year since then so I could assume he may be even worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdG8SZ79gCw

make your own conclusions from that.

walshb

joepenguin wrote: »

If Audley boxed well for a couple of rounds he would drop Toney fairly easily with the left paw.

Am I missing something concerning Toney, and Audley?

Toney was never close to being stopped, and Audley is far from
a great fighter. Serioulsy, has something drastic happened to
see people thinking that Harrisson stops Toney easily?

walshb

Big Ears wrote: »

Have you seen any of his last 4 fights ?, he got rocked in 3 of them all by guys who are not punchers. His punch resistance is gone. His speed is gone. His reflexes are gone. His timing is not what it used to be. His mobility is completely gone. His stamina seems very poor. He's done.

Honestly Walshb if you saw his last fight you'd realise Coleman Barrett would have at least a 50/50 chance(probably better) at beating Toney and not a bad chance at stopping him either. Well that's if his last fight is anything to go by, it's been a year since then so I could assume he may be even worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdG8SZ79gCw

make your own conclusions from that.

I have seen this fight. The thing is, Toney was NOT stopped. It's alright from the outside looking in, but when you get in there vs. Toney, it's a whole different ball game. It's Fraudley ****ing Harrisson we're talking about here.
I will still take Toney, even at this stage, to at least survive vs. Fraudley.

Regarding the above clip, where in it does Toney look OUT, or close to OUT?

He got wobbled, big deal, he bounced straight back. BTW, in the heavyweight division, there is
no such thing as, "guys who are not punchers." They may not be Tyson like, but
the big boys can all pack a punch, and after all, Toney is really a SM fighter.

Find me one clip in the past 20 years that would back up a claim that
Audley would easily, or likely stop James Toney? That Greer clip
shows me nothing. Toney battered the guy, and never looked close
to being dropped or KOd. Wobled, yes, but this is heavyweight boxoing.

Big Ears

walshb wrote: »

I have seen this fight. The thing is, Toney was NOT stopped. It's alright from the outside looking in, but when you get in there vs. Toney, it's a whole different ball game. It's Fraudley ****ing Harrisson we're talking about here.
I will still take Toney, even at this stage, to at least survive vs. Fraudley.

Are you not worried how such a low level journeyman managed to land that shot, aswell as a few others ?, are you not concerned by how Toney took the shot, compared to 4 years ago(when it probably would have just bounced right off him) ?, Are you not concerned that Fres Oquendo(who hits considerably less hard than Audley) also managed to hurt Toney in his fight before that and land on Toney very frequently ?

Toney is getting hit way more than he used to, and not only that but he's reacting worse to punches now that he used to. If there's one thing Audley can do it's punch hard and he'd land that big straight left of his and it'd be lights out for James Toney.

You say when you're in there with Toney, well Vasily Jirov went in there with Toney, Evander Holyfield went in there with Toney, Fres Oquendo, Matthew Greer and(if he were to fight him) Audley Harrison were not in there with Toney. They were in with a shadow of what Toney used to be.

All the ring smarts in the World can't save him now, in the same way Danny Green should of never have been able to KO Roy Jones........well time does funny things to a man.

James Toney is a 42 year old Light-Heavyweight operating up at Heavyweight and he looks it. He can't protect himself anymore and it wouldn't surprise me if Randy Couture managed to knock him him on Saturday from striking(while standing up).

You think William Joppy was ever good enough to stop Roberto Duran ?, well he was when they fought because Duran was 47 years old and Joppy wasn't that far off his best. But that would have never happened prime for prime, Duran would of chewed him up.

Harrison wouldn't stop the 2003 version of James Toney, not a chance.
But does he stop the 2010 version........Well I'd be my house on it.

whaaames

The way i see it...

The reason James Toney last few fights were so utterly dreadful was because he doesn't give a fiddlers, he had no motivation whatsoever for those fights, now....tell him he's getting a shot at the WBA belt and a money spinning fight with David Haye and (and this is my opinion) he trains, spars, and prepares like he cares...

I understand that he's in his 40s now and he's not the athlete, boxer or mover he once was but if ya look at the preparation he's putting in for the Randy Couture fight next week, he looks better than he has for a few years...

I don't actually think James could take the title off Haye but i do think that he puts up a better contest than Audley Harrison, and to say that Harrison stops James and even has a super chance of a KO is total crap...

I know James only ended up at heavyweight because of his struggles with making weight, his addiction to burger king, and it meant he didn't have to train as hard but the man was still a serious fighter and he's never been, and isn't now a pushover....

Big Ears

whaaames wrote: »

The way i see it...

The reason James Toney last few fights were so utterly dreadful was because he doesn't give a fiddlers, he had no motivation whatsoever for those fights, now....tell him he's getting a shot at the WBA belt and a money spinning fight with David Haye and (and this is my opinion) he trains, spars, and prepares like he cares...

I understand that he's in his 40s now and he's not the athlete, boxer or mover he once was but if ya look at the preparation he's putting in for the Randy Couture fight next week, he looks better than he has for a few years...

I don't actually think James could take the title off Haye but i do think that he puts up a better contest than Audley Harrison, and to say that Harrison stops James and even has a super chance of a KO is total crap...

I know James only ended up at heavyweight because of his struggles with making weight, his addiction to burger king, and it meant he didn't have to train as hard but the man was still a serious fighter and he's never been, and isn't now a pushover....

But lack of preparation doesn't really explain his declining punch resistance.
I certainly don't believe Fres Oquendo or Danny Batchelder would have hurt Toney 4/5 years ago. I know Walshb said all guys puch hard at the weight but Batchelder is a blown up Super-Middleweight himself(he used to fight there a few years ago) and wasn't a particularly big puncher at that weight and yet he staggered Toney quite badly.

It is clear Toney doesn't train hard and he looks for shortcuts(he's tested positive for steroids twice), but the word going round was that he was training hard for that Greer fight and his weight was indeed a stone lighter for that fight, and yet he still looked **** in it.
Is there really any guarantee a shot at a title would get him to train harder anyway ?, 4 years ago he got a shot at Rahman's WBC title and didn't look very good at all on his way to receiving draw(which was a little lucky for him). If he couldn't have been more motivated then why would he now.


I'm just saying that James Toney has looked terrible in his last few fights and he's been hurt in quite a few of them by guys that (A) wouldn't have been able to hardly hit him 7 years ago and (B) wouldn't have even slightly budged him if they did.

Now all the word going round is that he is training very hard for this MMA fight, I've seen some pictures(no idea what stage of training) and he still had quite a gut on him but that could be more indicative of his eating habits rather than training habits. I'm not sure whether I expect him to enter a boxing ring again tbh, at least not against anyone much greater than the Matthew Greers of this world so I don't think Toney will ever get the chance to proove me right or wrong.

But I really believe he has absolutely nothing left, and at 42 for a man that hasn't exactly lived the life, that wouldn't be surprising.

colly10

walshb wrote: »

Am I missing something concerning Toney, and Audley?

Toney was never close to being stopped, and Audley is far from
a great fighter. Serioulsy, has something drastic happened to
see people thinking that Harrisson stops Toney easily?

Agreed Toney is shot to bits but Audley has never done better than European level and he's not getting any younger at 38 either. He's also one of the laziest fighters i've ever seen. Toney may have lost speed and punch resistance but he still has far too much talent for a lazy Harrison.
Audley doesn't do the work required to take advantage of Toney being past it, Toney still outboxes Audley.

As for the Haye fight, I know Audley has power but I don't even give him a punchers chance, Haye is just too quick and too slick to be caught by him. It's a pointless fight but i'm not too critical of Haye, he will have to fight either adamek or one of the klitschko brothers after this though

walshb

Colly, what realy astounded me was not the prediction that Audley could beat James, but, EASILY KO or stop him? That to me is ludicrous, especially when one looks at the statistics and facts of Toney's career, even up to very
recently.

Watch that Greer clip from recently, even in this, Toney batters the guy and NEVER looks really hurt or close to being stopped.,

As also mentioned, Audley is no spring chicken. He has size and can bang, but Toney has met so many "Audley's" and has never been close to being stopped. Should James even find it too tough and heavy, he can always stink
the joint out and I am telling you, Fraudley will be lucky to land a half a dozen shots over 12 rds.

Haye-Toney, again, Haye can win, but he does not stop or KO a fighter, who IMO, is quite possibly the toughest and most difficult man to halt in history. We're not talking about just chin and toughness, but that amazing ability to duck, dive, slip and roll. His overall defence is just too solid.

Joe Luis

Haye's stamina seems to be coming up a lot sure its dodgy but Audley's stamina is worse remember that dreadful fight against williams hardly a punch thrown and he was totally wrecked and again against Rogan terrible terrible stamina. Haye was fighting at a much faster pace in many of his fights Fragomini really springs to mind. He's stamina was poor early on but its gotten much better. And now its certainly better than Audleys

And as for Toney .... the guy is past it waay past it I don't see him giving Haye any trouble at all, and if Haye were to fight him he'd be getting an even worse slagging than he's getting for thinking about fighting Harrison

Joe Luis

My prediction for Haye audley is something very similair to the Haye macernelli fight a couple of rounds tops

seadnamac

Why the hell are people talking about James Toney?? Jesus, it's amazing what a bit of publicity can do...

tysonslovechild

this is totally going off the subject, toney will never fight audley harrisson, hes fighting randy couture in the ufc soon , toney would be far too skilled for harrison, anyway going back too the point of the thread , David haye fighting audley is an absolute joke, hes wba world champion and should be fighting all the top heavyweight contenders , not someone who isnt even considered top european heavyweight. He made so much noise about the klitchcos only up to a few months ago and no were hearing all this. Its a joke audley is even being considered as hes only ranked 15 i think at the mo by the wba, why isnt he chasing guys like dennis boystov , adamek or even arreloa. its a farce if this fight gets made , and expecting the average joe soap to pay to watch it on ppv. scandelous.

seadnamac

Signed sealed and delivered...

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11067_6363080,00.html

Boxing at the highest level is really super these days.

And Here's Haye 'explaining' the Klitschko situation...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKH5JFTP3ws

Rob113

The last couple of minutes of the youtube video are funny when you know now who his next opponent is going to be.

The guy is a joke. Why fight fraudley. Why not even a top 5 contender. Fraudley ranked 13th by the WBA without a decent victory ever possibly. Id actually rather see him fight Martin Rogan. He beat fraudley and would at least take a few of hayes big blows before going down. Hed make a decent brawl of it andmake it a bit of a spectacle for at least 3/4 rounds.

How anyone would pay for this is beyond me.

paraguay99

Big Ears wrote: »

Have you seen any of his last 4 fights ?, he got rocked in 3 of them all by guys who are not punchers. His punch resistance is gone. His speed is gone. His reflexes are gone. His timing is not what it used to be. His mobility is completely gone. His stamina seems very poor. He's done.

Honestly Walshb if you saw his last fight you'd realise Coleman Barrett would have at least a 50/50 chance(probably better) at beating Toney and not a bad chance at stopping him either. Well that's if his last fight is anything to go by, it's been a year since then so I could assume he may be even worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdG8SZ79gCw

make your own conclusions from that.

You have lost your mind.

COLEMAN BARRETT?

Benny Lava

So it looks like it's going to be a Haye/Harrison and Pacquiao/Margarito double on November the 13th on Sky Sports PPV.

Not hyped about either fight at all. I'd sooner pay to watch Bradley/Alexander or even Khan/Maidana than pay to watch this terrible double.

All along I had this strange feeling Haye had something else in mind because this fight is so ridiculous I'm having trouble believing that it's actually happening. I was hoping he was secretly having talks with Povetkin or Adamek but no he is genuinely going to fight a guy who is ten years past his prime and was fairly shayte in his professional prime anyway. Never realised winning Prizefighter and beating a guy with 14 losses warranted a World Title shot. Hell, if Haye had moved up sooner and won a belt maybe Rogie would have got a shot! Haye is trying to make himself big in America and this is the absolute wrong way of going about it. Now not only has he lost respect in America and Germany, but also he surely has lost quite a bit of credibility in the UK as well. Sky Sports are doing their best to hype up this fight but they're not going to con anyone.

Warper

Haye - Harrison is a disgraceful fight - it highlights what is wrong with the sport. To have dud fighters like Haye going around acting like World Champion is a joke. The guy is running scared of the Klitscho's and will only fight them when they are 45 and washed up. Then to fight the biggest chump of all in Harrison, it really makes me sick. Can you just imagine watching that fight - 3 jabs a round by 2 jokers?????

The Davestator

Warper wrote: »

Haye - Harrison is a disgraceful fight - it highlights what is wrong with the sport. To have dud fighters like Haye going around acting like World Champion is a joke. The guy is running scared of the Klitscho's and will only fight them when they are 45 and washed up. Then to fight the biggest chump of all in Harrison, it really makes me sick. Can you just imagine watching that fight - 3 jabs a round by 2 jokers?????

I agree that the fight is a joke, but calling Haye a '3 jabs a round boxer' is waaaay of the mark. Harrison is, but Haye is explosive.

Haye KO in round one or TKO with the ref stepping in to save Audley cos he's just cowering on the ropes covering up.

Big Ears

paraguay99 wrote: »

You have lost your mind.

COLEMAN BARRETT?

The only thing that's been lost here is James Toney's capabilities in the ring, I'd fancy pretty much any fighter in the top 150 in the World over him now.

People would of said you'd lost your mind if you predicted Kevin McBride to beat Mike Tyson(I'd probably have been one of those people) but every fighter eventually becomes shot enough that they can be beat by very poor opposition.
That time for Toney has come now. If he has any intelligence he'll retire before that fact is shown up in the ring.


Haye vs Harrison is a terrible fight, it might have been somewhat justifiable if Audley had made a few European defences but with his shoulder injury the first defence he'd have had to make would of been his mandatory vs Dimitrenko and the likelihood is he'd have lost that. Instead he's got himself a 'World' title shot, so well done to him but he clearly doesn't deserve it and Haye will probably take him out early.

cowzerp

Benny Lava wrote: »

So it looks like it's going to be a Haye/Harrison and Pacquiao/Margarito double on November the 13th on Sky Sports PPV.

I did not think of that, the fact it's a double will get people to pay for thai that would not have paid for 1 alone, i am actually interested in the Pacman v Margarito fight and think it will be competitive, im going to be watching fraudley "throws no punches" Harrison fight now that its a double header!!

Big Ears

cowzerp wrote: »

I did not think of that, the fact it's a double will get people to pay for thai that would not have paid for 1 alone, i am actually interested in the Pacman v Margarito fight and think it will be competitive, im going to be watching fraudley "throws no punches" Harrison fight now that its a double header!!

With Guillermo Rigondeaux taking a massive step up against a man we're all familiar with(Ricardo Cordoba), Kelly Pavlik making his comeback and the decent chance George Groves will be on the Haye undercard(boxrec have him fighting a few weeks later but who knows) it could be a good decent nights boxing as a whole. But no one individual fight has me really buzzing.