* All things "Re-check" ...

Isotonic

Your school will give you an oppurtunity to view your papers on friday and saturday 2 weeks. My advice is to go look at the papers and analyse and add marks with the help of the marking scheme, which is provided on the day, accompanied by a parent or ideally, if available, a teacher. You can then make an informed choice about whether to pay the 40e to get your paper rechecked. If you find a glaring error in the computation of marks this can be rectified immediately for you. Good luck

muffinz

do u have to pay 40 to view the paper with a teacher no, only if i want to get it professionaly re-checked, then i hav e to pay?

Conor108

99% sure that viewing is free. Re-checks cost money though

muffinz

Thanks

RolandIRL

Conor108 wrote: »

99% sure that viewing is free. Re-checks cost money though

make that 100%. viewing is free. rechecks cos €35 per subject iirc.

Liveit

nope, 40 euro for a recheck im afraid

RolandIRL

Liveit wrote: »

nope, 40 euro for a recheck im afraid

my mistake read somewhere that it was €35 but just checked it on examinations.ie to be sure that it was 40

randylonghorn

Isotonic wrote: »

Your school will give you an oppurtunity to view your papers on friday and saturday 2 weeks. My advice is to go look at the papers and analyse and add marks with the help of the marking scheme, which is provided on the day, accompanied by a parent or ideally, if available, a teacher. You can then make an informed choice about whether to pay the 40e to get your paper rechecked. If you find a glaring error in the computation of marks this can be rectified immediately for you. Good luck

Good advice, except I would say be sure to ask a teacher, and preferably an experienced examiner, to look at any subjects you feel disappointed with. It doesn't have to be your own teacher, just someone who knows the score.

No disrespect to parents, but *most* will know less about the marking schemes / system than their offspring, and it's naturally second-nature to parents to believe that their Johnny / Mary deserved a better mark.

scudzilla

IF you pay for the recheck and it's proved to be wrong and your Mark is changed, don't ya get your money refunded?

randylonghorn

scudzilla wrote: »

IF you pay for the recheck and it's proved to be wrong and your Mark is changed, don't ya get your money refunded?

If you're upgraded, yes.

HereIGo

If you decide to go for a recheck, it is worth bearing in mind how close you are to loosing or gaining. If, for instance, you got 59%, you only need 1% to be upgraded and gain 5points and can afford to lose 4% without being downgraded. However, if you got 55% there is a bigger chance of being downgraded and farther to go to being upgraded.

samehere

are calculators allowed

dambarude

samehere wrote: »

are calculators allowed

They were in my viewing centre, so yes. It's a very good idea to bring one, it makes things much easier.

It'd also be a good idea to have a look at the marking schemes on www.examinations.ie, particularly for the subjects you weren't happy with. It'll mean you're more familiar with everything when you go in.

Also what randylonghorn said about parents- a teacher, or even a recent LCer would be much more beneficial to you. If anything I think having a parent with you would be more of a hindrance than a help. Unless they're very clued in you'll just end up spending your time trying to explain the way everything works to them.

zam

Are you allowed to bring in a copy of:

*The exam paper
*The marking scheme

for each subject?

Lawliet

There'll be exam papers and marking schemes provided

Bob the Builder

Lawliet wrote: »

There'll be exam papers and marking schemes provided

Awesome. Last time I checked the SEC website didnt have 2010 marking schemes available in any subject...

johnmcdnl

marking schemes won't be allowed - common sense like i suppose...

they'll probably be released after the checks I'd say

Liveit

Sure? I checked the last day and they are all there

dambarude

ALL of the marking schemes will be provided at the centre, and they are also on the SEC website right now.

Bob the Builder

Liveit wrote: »

Sure? I checked the last day and they are all there

Your right. They've only went online in the last two days though. For sure... Because I checked two days ago.

i like pie

johnmcdnl wrote: »

marking schemes won't be allowed - common sense like i suppose...

they'll probably be released after the checks I'd say

they are allowed!! they are provided by the centre:) sure what would be the purpose of viewing the scripts if we don't have a marking scheme to look at

TimeToShine

Are you allowed go in on your own though? And if you do find an error in the script marking (such as addition of marks etc), do you still have to send it away and wait till mid October?

dambarude

TimeToShine wrote: »

Are you allowed go in on your own though? And if you do find an error in the script marking (such as addition of marks etc), do you still have to send it away and wait till mid October?

You can go in on your own.

AFAIK if the addition of marks is wrong it will have to be rechecked. The only basis on which you can get an immediate upgrade is if there is an error in feeding the grade written on your paper into the system (ie if it says you got 280/300, an A1, but on your results statement it said C3).

TimeToShine

And the likelihood of that is...?

dambarude

TimeToShine wrote: »

And the likelihood of that is...?

I would say very slim. I think I read somewhere before that the grades are input twice, by two different people, to reduce the chances of it happening. It could happen when the examiner is filling in the sheet with results though I suppose.

That said one of my teachers said that a student of hers was shocked to find that on her results day she got an C in Biology. When she went to view the script it very clearly had A1 written on the front of it. How it happened, I don't know, but it shows that there is some chance of such an upgrade occurring.

spurious

The grade is not entered in Athlone, the score is. The computers then convert it into a grade.

By far the most common way of getting an upgrade is where the scores for the different questions have been totted up incorrectly.

muffinz

so im getting mine checked today - what do i need to bring? do i have to bring that slip of paper that said im due in at this time? bringing my hangbag with a pen/cil n calculator

dambarude

muffinz wrote: »

so im getting mine checked today - what do i need to bring? do i have to bring that slip of paper that said im due in at this time? bringing my hangbag with a pen/cil n calculator

You're told to bring that slip but I'm sure you'll get in without it. You are NOT allowed a pencil, or probably your handbag because you could have pens in it, but you are allowed the calculator. The only other thing you need to bring is somebody with knowledge on the papers you are viewing (a teacher/ideally one who has been an examiner/even better again one who examined this year).

muffinz

My teachers is going to go through it with me, thanks for the info:D

spurious

Just as a piece of information, marks in [square brackets] do not count towards the total - they are usually where someone had to answer three sections and answered a fourth. The marks in (round brackets) count.

hokeypokey

i viewed mine today and i was one mark off the next grade and they never gave it to me ... ONE MARK!!!

Eire-Dearg

Viewed my exams tonight, in the hope of scuppering up 5 points to get into my first choice.

I spotted a miscalculation in the geography. The corrector wrote down "16" after one question, but when going back over and adding the totals took it as "10".

We recalculated it anyway and I'm now on 69.4%, a fraction shy of 70% and the 5 extra points. Unless the re-corrector is some sort of Nazi and doesn't round up or doesnt find an extra 2/3 marks in the exam, I'm getting into my first choice either this year (if there is room) or next year.

Is there a more ball kicking story ever in the LC?

loike

i go in tomorrow when there are no teachers to help
lol great...

muffinz

Everyone needs to get Geography rechecked IMO -

The correcter of our geog papers made a complete balls of it. He realised too many people had Bs and took a few random papers and changed it so that they lost 4 marks and ended up with 69%!

I got 69%, and a few girls in my class who always got high Bs/As in classes and in the mocks got C1s aswell.... Getting it checked, hopefully will get 70 or more and then will get 5 more marks added to my total:D

i like pie

hokeypokey wrote: »

i viewed mine today and i was one mark off the next grade and they never gave it to me ... ONE MARK!!!

aw that is so mean:( what exam was it? did you send it away to get rechecked?

dambarude

muffinz wrote: »

Everyone needs to get Geography rechecked IMO -

The correcter of our geog papers made a complete balls of it. He realised too many people had Bs and took a few random papers and changed it so that they lost 4 marks and ended up with 69%!

I got 69%, and a few girls in my class who always got high Bs/As in classes and in the mocks got C1s aswell.... Getting it checked, hopefully will get 70 or more and then will get 5 more marks added to my total:D

It *seems* like there was a problem with the distribution of grades in Geography this year. I'd be expecting a harder paper next year.

MavisDavis

Eire-Dearg wrote: »

Viewed my exams tonight, in the hope of scuppering up 5 points to get into my first choice.

I spotted a miscalculation in the geography. The corrector wrote down "16" after one question, but when going back over and adding the totals took it as "10".

We recalculated it anyway and I'm now on 69.4%, a fraction shy of 70% and the 5 extra points. Unless the re-corrector is some sort of Nazi and doesn't round up or doesnt find an extra 2/3 marks in the exam, I'm getting into my first choice either this year (if there is room) or next year.

Is there a more ball kicking story ever in the LC?

I've been told that there is no "rounding up" in LC marking. I'm not sure how true that is, though..

Ditzie

4 marks off my grade n biology, have at least 4 questions worth 3 marks that the examiner put 0 on like wtf? it was there in black and white on the marking scheme word for word!

muffinz

dambarude wrote: »

It *seems* like there was a problem with the distribution of grades in Geography this year. I'd be expecting a harder paper next year.

My teacher told me today that last year people who never did a days work came out with high Bs, and then they made a balls of it this year too :rolleyes: The one subject i actually worked my ass of for is the one they have to mess up

dambarude

MavisDavis wrote: »

I've been told that there is no "rounding up" in LC marking. I'm not sure how true that is, though..

That's true. Being within a certain range of marks gives you a certain grade. In Spanish the marks are graded like this for example (taken from marking scheme):

A: 255 - 300
B: 210 - 254
C: 165 - 209
120 - 164
E: 75 - 119
F: 30 - 74
N.G.: 0 - 29

So if you got 254 marks you got a B, there's no rounding up or down, and no percentages are involved.

hokeypokey

i like pie wrote: »

aw that is so mean:( what exam was it? did you send it away to get rechecked?

It was maths, so it wasn't like there was any shortage of marks! I sent it away, but i don't need the points.
I was six marks away in Geography aswell...

mmmchoccy

I got 79.5 percent in Biology! Thats half a percent! I nearly died because I need just five points to get the course I want... and there were a few cases where I had written word for word from the marking scheme and got no marks * fingers crossed.

PARARORY

I'm on tomorrow afternoon. What did they allow into the room - a calculator?

Repeat2011

if you get your script rechecked and it turns our that you have enoough points for the course, do you get accepted straight away or do you have to wait til next year?!

i like pie

hokeypokey wrote: »

It was maths, so it wasn't like there was any shortage of marks! I sent it away, but i don't need the points.
I was six marks away in Geography aswell...

wow that is so unlucky:( hopefully you'll go up in the maths!! did the centre have the marking schemes and papers and were you allowed to bring in a calculator?

hokeypokey

i like pie wrote: »

wow that is so unlucky:( hopefully you'll go up in the maths!! did the centre have the marking schemes and papers and were you allowed to bring in a calculator?

yea they had calculators and marking schemes, i didnt really look at it just decided when i saw the marks that id get it rechecked!

i like pie

Repeat2011 wrote: »

if you get your script rechecked and it turns our that you have enoough points for the course, do you get accepted straight away or do you have to wait til next year?!

it really depends on the course and college! some may decide that you've missed too much to be able to catch up so they'll keep a place for you next year:)

monaghanman10

went in to look at mine today,economics was entered wrong so dat was up to a b1 straight away and im pretty sure its an a2 wit a recheck.chemistry was 1 mark away from b2 so i reckon dat will go up.looked through my irish.aced paper 2:D

ihavequestions

ya I did! Yup calculators allowed, you are advised to have one!
No pens paper or mobile phones!

ihavequestions

my eng teacher thinks I can go up 2 grades!

Aisling1992

ya make sure u bring a calculator because you will need it.


Any one thinking of appealing their irish? Do they recheck your oral aswell as your written paper?