NO GOOD MOVIES

dammul

I am seriously concerned at the lack of proper movies being released to the cinema lately. Does anyone else think that there are way too many CGI based bore fests being released? I mean, where are all the good actors? Where are the plots, storylines and writers? We won't get to see the next generation of Hollywood stars because they'll all be in sound booths doing voice overs for animated films.

Antar Bolaeisk

Currently most of the films showing or in production are sequels, prequels or remakes ( I think they mentioned something like 120 remakes currently at various stages of production the other day on "The Last Word", God only knows what the figure is for sequels/prequels). The reason for this is that the films are safe, the last film to bear the name made money so with a little re-working they're pretty much guaranteed to make money on another film in the same vein.

This year has been worse again than last year with the only truely original film all year that was even decent being "Inception" (if you haven't seen it yet then do, it's brilliant).

Sadly the general population seems to prefer mindless explosionsand continually go to these films which is the reason why there is a seventh "Saw" on the way and yet another travesty by the Waynes brothers (I'd love to know who gives these guys money).

There is also the fact that the rato of good to bad films is always going to be weighted heavily in bad's favour though this year good films seem to be more outnumbered than normal.

Edit: Apologies, "Shutter Island" was released this year and it was pretty good, not sure if it was a remake though. "Robin Hood" was also good but I'm couting it as being a remake. I'm sure there have been other good original films this year but they're probably limited releases so we wouldn't get them where I live.

losthorizon

I was going to go to the cinema tonight. But the mindless crap my local is showing (I've already seen Toy Story 3) Ive decided not to. Hopefully next week.

Anakin.S

Up in the Air, Precious, Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, Bad Lieutenant, Brooklyn's Finest

All good movies, all released this year.

Hissing Sid

Unthinkable & Centurion are two good movies that spring to mind.

phasers

Inception. Toy Story 3.

Considering we're in the middle of the annual Summer dross-fest having two decent films out is somewhat of a miracle.

As a fan of comedies, I quite enjoyed Kick Ass recently. I watch a fair few films, but most of the films I watch these days are from the 80s I'd say.

Planes, Trains and Automobiles was the last film I watched.

To be honest, I'll watch any kind of film. Be it horror, action, comedy, or such, but I feel that the last few years have been really poor to the movie industry.

Aside from Kick Ass as I've mentioned above, I've seen lots of films and none of them stick out in my mind as being particularly special (I haven't seen inception but heard good things).

The amount of remakes and sequels is scary though. Are there really so few new ideas out there that Robocop, The A-Team, Batman, etc. are names that have to be in Cinema listings in recent and coming years?

Renn

20/08/2010 : The Illusionist
01/09/2010 : The American
03/09/2010 : Route Irish
03/09/2010 : Machete
10/09/2010 : My Son, My Son, What Have Ye Done
10/09/2010 : The Town
22/09/2010 : You Will Meet a Tall Dark Stranger
15/10/2010 : Conviction
15/10/2010 : Jackass 3-D
04/11/2010 : Surviving Life
05/11/2010 : Fair Game
10/12/2010 : The Fighter
22/12/2010 : Somewhere
25/12/2010 : True Grit
29/12/2010 : The Debt
2010 : Jack Goes Boating
2010 : Rebecca H. (Return to the Dogs)
2010 : Untitled Cryonics Project
2010 : Get Low

johnny_ultimate

I personally feel there are almost always good films being released, it all depends on how hard you're willing to look for them! Perusing the IFI website, review sites etc... will throw up loads of new films every week. Not all are masterpieces, but there's rarely a week where there's less than one film I want to see.

That said, there was a lull of sorts after the double whammy of Toy Story and Inception (great job releasing the two best Hollywood films of the year in one weekend!). There are a few interesting new releases starting to filter through again, like Secret in Their Eyes, Scott Pilgrim, The Illusionist etc...

And for those times when there's very little in the cinema, I usually just occupy myself working through the almost never-ending back catalogue of good films!

losthorizon

At the moment my local has

The Expendables - I dont think so
Salt - Thats a no no
Marmaduke - My parents have a dog Ild prefer to look at him for free
Tinkerbell and the Great Fairy Bell Rescue - Damn, booked out
The Last Airbender - Bend away but without me
The Last Airbender in 3D - Ditto
The Sorcerers Apprentice - Crap
Step Up 3D - The original Fame was tolerable this brings it down a few notches
Knight and Day - This is probably the only tolerable film.
Cats and Dogs - - Dire
The Karate Kid - The original was ordinary enough why make something worse?
The A-Team - The B-Team more like
Toy Story in 3d - Finally a great film and one worth going to see but Ive gone to see it.

What I cant understand about my cinema is that they seem to pick the worst of the available choice of movies. What are in my opinion the better films never arrive

Renn

Because people pay to see the above? It's always been like this, can't see why it's becoming an issue now. We just get to see the 'great' ones from the 80s etc nowadays. Not many had to endure the stinkers. Just like how people in twenty years time won't have to watch some of the sh*t you posted above.

seensensee

dammul wrote: »

I am seriously concerned at the lack of proper movies being released to the cinema lately. Does anyone else think that there are way too many CGI based bore fests being released? I mean, where are all the good actors? Where are the plots, storylines and writers? We won't get to see the next generation of Hollywood stars because they'll all be in sound booths doing voice overs for animated films.

Looks like hollywood has climbed up it's ownass, what a pity it is that our cinemas don't show movies from around the world.

FearDark

The sooner 3D dies the better...

OutlawPete

What are you all talking about?

I seen loads of excellent films this year.

No, wait .. sorry, my mistake - they were all classics in the Screen,, The Ormonde & IFI.

Nothing but crap being released the past six months.

Antar Bolaeisk

losthorizon wrote: »

What I cant understand about my cinema is that they seem to pick the worst of the available choice of movies. What are in my opinion the better films never arrive

Though it may sound daft cinemas can't actually pick what they want to show, they are told what films they are getting and that's that. While this may change with digital due to the much lower costs of providing copies of the film the distributors like the 35mm prints where they're going to make money. (probably not true for arthouse/specialist cinemas)

For example, from the list of films Anakin.S provided none of them where shown around here due to a limited release.

Something kinda annoyed me about Toy Story 3 - it was labeled as a "sleeper hit" - but could it be counted as one though? I mean it's one of the most successful franchises made by one of the most successful studios in the world.

me-skywalker

Anakin.S wrote: »

Up in the Air, Precious, Girl with the Dragon Tattoo,

All good movies, all released this year.

All based on a principle work literature. None original.

Galvasean

OutlawPete wrote: »

Nothing but crap being released the past six months.

Ah c'mon now, you hardly believe that Inception, Toy Story 3, American: The Bill Hicks Story, Kick Ass and Bad Lietenant were all crap?

Galvasean

me-skywalker wrote: »

All based on a principle work literature. None original.

So? If you were to discount every movie based on a work of literature you'd be missing out on some of the all time classics.

OutlawPete

Galvasean wrote: »

Ah c'mon now, you hardly believe that Inception, Toy Story 3, American: The Bill Hicks Story, Kick Ass and Bad Lietenant were all crap?

I liked Toy Story and Bad Lietenant for sure.

Inception and Kick Ass I did not enjoy much at all.

Even at that, that's just a few movies.

The standard of films is dropping each and every year.

For the amount of movies being churned out, the percentage that are not forgettable is very small.

I have always felt that the bigger the budget, the worse the film is going to be.

That's just the way it tends to be for me.

Now we seem to have big budget movies all the time and the scripts of these films are worse than ever.

Robin Hood was a prime example.

Used to be that I would only like four or five movies that would be released in a month.

Now I'm lucky if it's one or two.

me-skywalker

Galvasean wrote: »

So? If you were to discount every movie based on a work of literature you'd be missing out on some of the all time classics.

I didn't mention discounting it. Im alluding to the point that they along with pre-quels, sequels, reimaginings, reboots etc etc are all still unoriginal. There is a severe lack of originality *NB in the mainstream movie world.

The fact that his examples of good movies this year have been derivative's from literary works actually strengthens the point. Where are the film makers who take the whole project on their shoulders and carry it. Nolan is doing a making a fine example but in the 'Box Office' I cant see much hope for other Nolans to come along and carve a name for themselves.

I think this point is more pertinent. Which is a knock on effect from studios afraid to gamble money in the current state of affairs and are willing to stick to the tried and tested and just keeping milking the farm.

conorhal

I have a Cineworld pass due to expire next month, and you know what, I'm not renewing it because this year it felt like a waste of money.

This has been an awful year for mainstream cinema (and it depresses me that I seem to say that every year only to have the next one top it for awfulness), which has been redeemed only slightly in the past month by Toy Story 3 and Inception.
Usually at the end of the year I will look back over the ticket stubs I've accumulated in my wallet over the past 12 months and checklist the movies I saw that NEED to go into my DVD collection. Most years it's not that hard to pick a top 10, this year I will struggle to cobble together a reasonable 5.


The only other notables I saw this year were Exit through the Gift Shop, A Profit, Where the Wild things Are, Up in the Air (hobbles over the line but was slightly undone by it's third act) and for sheer entertainment value Sherlock Holmes, and for sheer spectacle (that won't be worth re-watching on the small screen) Avatar.

I rate 2010- 4/10 :mad:

Brendog

Anakin.S wrote: »

Up in the Air, Precious, Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, Bad Lieutenant, Brooklyn's Finest

All good movies, all released this year.

I'm sure OP means ATM....

I agree theres not that many film out now that are good...
Yeah I've seen Inception, Toy Story 3, Inception again, Predators, Inception a third time...but thats it.




Now that I think of it...Does Ireland have its own form of Cannes? or any Modern Film Festival for that matter?

spoonface

I saw Beautiful Kate in the IFI last week, very good movie.

Anakin.S

Brendog wrote: »

Now that I think of it...Does Ireland have its own form of Cannes? or any Modern Film Festival for that matter?

Queens have a film festival every year. I think its ran between QFT (Queens Film Theater) and the odyssey

Decuc500

Brendog wrote: »

Now that I think of it...Does Ireland have its own form of Cannes? or any Modern Film Festival for that matter?

There's loads of film festivals on all over Ireland. Dublin has the biggest, every February.

Brendog

Decuc500 wrote: »

There's loads of film festivals on all over Ireland. Dublin has the biggest, every February.

oh yeah!! Jameson film festival...HERPDERP to me!

purple_hatstand

Anakin.S wrote: »

Up in the Air, Precious, Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, Bad Lieutenant, Brooklyn's Finest

All good movies, all released this year.

Brooklyn's Finest was really disappointing.

The other 4 are all from last year and 1 is a remake...

Anakin.S

purple_hatstand wrote: »

Brooklyn's Finest was really disappointing.

The other 4 are all from last year and 1 is a remake...

Sorry I thought we were talking UK & Ireland release dates

Up in the Air - 15 January 2010,
Precious - 29 January 2010,
Girl with the Dragon Tattoo - 12 March 2010,
Bad Lieutenant - 21 May 2010,
Brooklyn's Finest - '11th June 2010'

I can see why you would class Bad Lieutenant as a remake, but I was only thinking films I enjoyed watching this year

Renn

Ugh, Bad Lieutenant isn't a remake.

Gang of Gin

Antar Bolaeisk wrote: »

Currently most of the films showing or in production are sequels, prequels or remakes ( I think they mentioned something like 120 remakes currently at various stages of production the other day on "The Last Word", God only knows what the figure is for sequels/prequels). The reason for this is that the films are safe, the last film to bear the name made money so with a little re-working they're pretty much guaranteed to make money on another film in the same vein.

This year has been worse again than last year with the only truely original film all year that was even decent being "Inception" (if you haven't seen it yet then do, it's brilliant).

Sadly the general population seems to prefer mindless explosionsand continually go to these films which is the reason why there is a seventh "Saw" on the way and yet another travesty by the Waynes brothers (I'd love to know who gives these guys money).

There is also the fact that the rato of good to bad films is always going to be weighted heavily in bad's favour though this year good films seem to be more outnumbered than normal.

Edit: Apologies, "Shutter Island" was released this year and it was pretty good, not sure if it was a remake though. "Robin Hood" was also good but I'm couting it as being a remake. I'm sure there have been other good original films this year but they're probably limited releases so we wouldn't get them where I live.

Is that the Wayans' brothers? Oh dear, if it's them you mean.
Moon, No country for old men, and Shutter Island were the last few decent ones I've seen in the context of blockbusters. Think they were all out in 2009.. perhaps the latter was 2010.

Gang of Gin

Deleted User wrote: »

As a fan of comedies, I quite enjoyed Kick Ass recently. I watch a fair few films, but most of the films I watch these days are from the 80s I'd say.

Planes, Trains and Automobiles was the last film I watched.

To be honest, I'll watch any kind of film. Be it horror, action, comedy, or such, but I feel that the last few years have been really poor to the movie industry.

Aside from Kick Ass as I've mentioned above, I've seen lots of films and none of them stick out in my mind as being particularly special (I haven't seen inception but heard good things).

The amount of remakes and sequels is scary though. Are there really so few new ideas out there that Robocop, The A-Team, Batman, etc. are names that have to be in Cinema listings in recent and coming years?

"You can start by wiping that ****ing dumb-ass smile off your rosey, ****ing, cheeks! And you can give me a ****ing automobile: a ****ing Datsun, a ****ing Toyota, a ****ing Mustang, a ****ing Buick! Four ****ing wheels and a seat!"

Oh how that made me laugh!

Craptacular

seensensee wrote: »

Looks like hollywood has climbed up it's ownass, what a pity it is that our cinemas don't show movies from around the world.

I'm pretty sure Hollywood's not local but I know what you mean. At least the Screen, IFI and sometimes Cineworld have non-US and non-UK films on offer so we get to see then before America remakes them in English.

seensensee

"No good movies"... Take Inception for example *yawn* it almost sent me to sleep watching people go to sleep in slow motion just so they could all feck about together while trying to avoid being shot to pieces in corny cgi worlds , it's a no good movie, I want my money back!

Renn

Did you ask for your money back?

krudler

losthorizon wrote: »

At the moment my local has

The Expendables - I dont think so
Salt - Thats a no no
Marmaduke - My parents have a dog Ild prefer to look at him for free
Tinkerbell and the Great Fairy Bell Rescue - Damn, booked out
The Last Airbender - Bend away but without me
The Last Airbender in 3D - Ditto
The Sorcerers Apprentice - Crap
Step Up 3D - The original Fame was tolerable this brings it down a few notches
Knight and Day - This is probably the only tolerable film.
Cats and Dogs - - Dire
The Karate Kid - The original was ordinary enough why make something worse?
The A-Team - The B-Team more like
Toy Story in 3d - Finally a great film and one worth going to see but Ive gone to see it.

What I cant understand about my cinema is that they seem to pick the worst of the available choice of movies. What are in my opinion the better films never arrive

Does your single ticket purchase reimburse the cinema for buying these so called "better movies"? nope.

Have you actually seen any of the above?or do you just bitch and moan about films without having watched them to form an opinion on them?

seensensee

Renn wrote: »

Did you ask for your money back?

Nah, I was sleep walking on the way out dreaming about how I would never have to put myself through anything like that again, I woke up somewhere on the way home with a big smile on my face with the realisation that I would not have to suffer in that way again., and you know what ? for some reason i'm convinced that was the last suckin HW BS movie I'll waste money and time on. enough's enough which is good enough for me.

Renn

I'll miss your company man

seensensee

But... that does'nt mean that that I've totally given up on hollywood movies, it's just a case of being certain of what is worth seeing, it's all personal choice and the last one imo had a very depressing effect.

There must be other unexplored areas as yet unfilmed...

Antar Bolaeisk

Renn wrote: »

Did you ask for your money back?

Why should he get money back for not liking the film? It's not like he just bought a dress which he is then informed his bum does indeed look big in so he must return it. Movies are information, you pay for that information when you buy a ticket, to look for a refund after watching the film would require that the information be removed from the persons brain (probably something people would be thankful for after certain films). Besides, if cinemas were to offer a satisfaction guarantee or you money back scheme they would close within a week.

don ramo

seensensee wrote: »

"No good movies"... Take Inception for example *yawn* it almost sent me to sleep watching people go to sleep in slow motion just so they could all feck about together while trying to avoid being shot to pieces in corny cgi worlds , it's a no good movie, I want my money back!

inception actually used as litle CGI as possible, i saw a you tube clip a few weeks ago, they built that corridor scene and actually had it spinning on 3 axis, and the restuarant scene they built the set and had it tilting and all,

as someone said earlier you will always have more bad films than good, think of it the profit made from avatar will allow the studio to make at least 10 useless 200 million dollar films,

plus you have very underperforming films that lost lots of money or made very little profit but were actually very good films,

i thought the boat that rocked was a vey well executed film, it was an original and true (used loosely) story, and the cast was excellent, it was funny and a bit serious, i thought it would have had a great box office but yet it ended up loosing 14 million,
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=boatthatrocked.htm

seensensee

don ramo wrote: »

inception actually used as litle CGI as possible, i saw a you tube clip a few weeks ago, they built that corridor scene and actually had it spinning on 3 axis, and the restuarant scene they built the set and had it tilting and all,

as someone said earlier you will always have more bad films than good, think of it the profit made from avatar will allow the studio to make at least 10 useless 200 million dollar films,

plus you have very underperforming films that lost lots of money or made very little profit but were actually very good films,

i thought the boat that rocked was a vey well executed film, it was an original and true (used loosely) story, and the cast was excellent, it was funny and a bit serious, i thought it would have had a great box office but yet it ended up loosing 14 million,
http://boxofficemojovies/?id=boatthatrocked.htm

I'm no movie buff and your post makes me realise that in fact inception was a good movie... good for hollywood studios, cast and crew, good for the cinema industry and apparently good for the fans and many viewers. success all round.
But from a critical POV.... well I suppose it's all mostly subjective depending on the expectations of the audience.

I'd say the cast in the pirate radio work very well together, I must remember to have a look sometime.
If they are all on a boat together for most of it then it's the type of inner space that I could get into.
cheers

Renn

Antar Bolaeisk wrote: »

Why should he get money back for not liking the film? It's not like he just bought a dress which he is then informed his bum does indeed look big in so he must return it. Movies are information, you pay for that information when you buy a ticket, to look for a refund after watching the film would require that the information be removed from the persons brain (probably something people would be thankful for after certain films). Besides, if cinemas were to offer a satisfaction guarantee or you money back scheme they would close within a week.

Wow, I wasn't being serious in the slightest but thanks for that.

Antar Bolaeisk

Renn wrote: »

Wow, I wasn't being serious in the slightest but thanks for that.

Sorry, I picked it up wrong, lack of tone and all that on the internet

(plus the fact that I had just dealt that night with an angry customer, who was quite rude, demand his money back because he didn't like the film even though it took him over two hours to decide he didn't like it. I suggested he write a letter of complaint to the producers

In fairness, I probably would have been more sympathetic had he not been so rude, oh well)

Renn

Haha, people actually ask for their money back? What f*cktards.

adox

Isnt this just a Monty Python sketch? Wasnt everything better back in our day???

Zardoz

The standard of movies being released nowadays is definitely deteriorating.
The standard of movies at the cineplex this year has been appalling ,I only made a few excursions and watched most of my films on DVD.

Despite a rigorous screening process as to which films I watch ,I've still been disappointed by what I saw.
In years gone by I was a regular cinema goer,every Friday evening I'd go no matter what was on and I'd usually come away satisfied.
Likewise with DVD's I'd usually find a good new release be it English or Foreign language to watch.

I've been struggling alot lately to find decent films,I usually watch 2-3 films a week so .I have been watching alot of older films and foreign ones as there is nothing half decent coming out in Hollywood.

You usually get a glut of decent films around December or January then there is a massive lull ,followed by the Summer blockbusters most of which have been crap.

There are very few decent thrillers ,comedies ,or scifi movies being made any more .
Too many formulaic films ,too many brain dead action films with loads of cgi ,too many soppy chick flicks and far too many remakes.
The only film with any bit of intelligence this year was Inception .

Renn

Renn wrote: »

It's always been like this, can't see why it's becoming an issue now. We just get to see the 'great' ones from the 80s etc nowadays. Not many had to endure the stinkers. Just like how people in twenty years time won't have to watch some of the sh*t you posted above.

.

mikhail

Meh. This year hasn't been great, but frankly, those of us who watch several films a week usually reach a point where cliched crap we'd have enjoyed as brainless fun a few years back now visibly creaks and groans towards it's utterly unsurprising conclusion. Read a book and keep an eye out for the genuinely good stuff which is still getting made.

Zardoz

mikhail wrote: »

Meh. This year hasn't been great, but frankly, those of us who watch several films a week usually reach a point where cliched crap we'd have enjoyed as brainless fun a few years back now visibly creaks and groans towards it's utterly unsurprising conclusion. Read a book and keep an eye out for the genuinely good stuff which is still getting made.

Good point ,I have been thinking that myself.
Might read some books or watch some classic tv series I havent seen.

e_e

American: The Bill Hicks Story
Bad Lieutenant
Four Lions
The Illusionist
Inception
Kick-Ass
Ponyo
A Prophet
The Road
Shutter Island
Toy Story 3

All films released in the past few months which range from good to great. It's your own damn fault if you can't be bothered to look past the multiplex for your film choices, either that or you just have far too high standards. Mother looks great too.