CAO Points Update

nadia4

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2010/0816/1224276890511.html

unknown13

Nothing said about Law. I like

nadia4

unknown13 wrote: »

Nothing said about Law. I like

Decrease by 4 percent!! happy days....:) fingers crossed

unknown13

I still need it down at 450

wonderfulname

final CAO figures showing a 4 per cent increase in applications for level 8 or higher degree courses.

not too bad really, and applications doesn't translate to places - who says that there isn't a higher percentage of lower grades this year leading to no change whatsoever?

Details of this year’s CAO points requirements will be published next Monday. They are expected to show a slight increase in points for arts; a marginal increase for most science and engineering courses; no major change from last year for business courses; a dramatic fall off for property and construction courses; points will increase again for nursing; and no major change is expected in the requirement for teaching.

That again really doesn't sound too bad! Not when you think of the horror stories we were being fed earlier in the year.

And what does it matter now anyway, its not like we can do anything, just ignore it all till Wednesday and hope for the best!

ummtea

Well as long as Basket Weaving doesn't increase too much...

Niche market

"a dramatic fall off for property and construction courses..."

I really want to do a property course and i was kind of expecting a fall in numbers but not a 23% decrease :eek: i now feel a bit more optimistic about getting a college place :rolleyes:
(not counting my chickens before they hatch or anything)
thanks op for posting!

ldxo15wus6fpgm

unknown13 wrote: »

I still need it down at 450

Didn't know you were going for law! Where are you hoping for?

freeze4real

Tbh it doesn't mean anything.
The cao system is has 3 steps.
You need college requirement points and something else.

Not everyone will get coleus requirements e.g C3 or more for ordinary level maths.

felic

10% increase in applications to Medicine
14% increase in applications to Dentistry
21% decrease in applications to Pharmacy

Thats really surprising! I always thought Pharmacy was a good number to go for?

lc2010

felic wrote: »

10% increase in applications to Medicine
14% increase in applications to Dentistry
21% decrease in applications to Pharmacy

Thats really surprising! I always thought Pharmacy was a good number to go for?

It was. However the reduction in money they receive from the HSE, a complete oversupply throughout the country along with the increase in the no. of large franchises opening are causing the career to become less desirable....

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Surprisingly, demand for courses in teaching and education has increased only marginally, despite the Government’s commitment to recruit extra teachers and maintain class size at current levels. Points are expected to be broadly similar to last year’s levels for teaching.

Niiiice:D Was expecting a 10/20 point increase...!:D

gaeilgegrinds1

I know I'll be shot for saying this but I'd forget about reading papers til at least after the results. I went away for 2 days camping before mine, was lovely. Getting stressed out won't do you any good or change your results.

Ditzie

'There has also been a sharp increase in demand for places in medicine and related areas'
crap, my course only has 25 places and points are high enough as it is

cxh20y

Article in todays Irish times on points predictions etc this wednesday. What do ye all think?

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2010/0816/1224276890511.html

allym

Damn not good for me as I want to do Occupational Therapy and demand for "other healthcare" courses has gone up by 25%

ChristianLC

I'm glad that there isn't an increase in business type courses seen as those were the only type of courses I applied for.

Lawliet

gaeilgegrinds1 wrote: »

I know I'll be shot for saying this but I'd forget about reading papers til at least after the results. I went away for 2 days camping before mine, was lovely. Getting stressed out won't do you any good or change your results.

This.

And to everyone getting stressed you need to keep in mind that none of these articles know what the points are going to be. They're just speculating based on the amount that applied to each course, but at the end of the day it all depends on what people's results are.

spurious

THFC wrote: »

Surprisingly, demand for courses in teaching and education has increased only marginally, despite the Government’s commitment to recruit extra teachers and maintain class size at current levels. Points are expected to be broadly similar to last year’s levels for teaching.

The message may finally be getting through that there are no jobs in teaching and the government's 'extra jobs' really only resulted in existing part-timers getting a few hours extra a week.

unknown13

Theo Gifted Soreness wrote: »

Didn't know you were going for law! Where are you hoping for?

UCD

thegoth

Hate to be the one to say this, but I am working in the big bad world for nearly 10 years now. The reason that there is a decrease for law, is that there is an over supply. I know alot of solicitors either laid off, or on a 3-4 day week ( with a large decrease of their daily rate ). Just bear that in mind if accepting law

frser32

Everyone i have been talking about Law careers have told me to possibly expect unemployment once finished, but hopefully things will have improved within the next 5 to 7 years. I was considering going to Scotland next year to do my degree as i hear things are slightly better there, but who knows

shofukan

"CAO points for most third-level courses set to increase"

Yay.

AdMMM

I think this year will actually see a sharp increase. The media has been so far off the mark in previous years but I think the stars will align for them this year and they'll finally be right.

We've seen more applicants to the CAO each year for quite a while now, but colleges were always in the position to expand and either offer more courses or more places. Colleges can't afford to expand anymore with all the cuts they are being forced to make. This will only translate to an increase in points required, much more severely than in years they were in a position to meet the extra demand.

With that being said, there's no point worrying about it now. Not even a Presidential letter will change your results now.

LutherBlissett

Don't be put off by people telling you that there are no jobs in law.

First of all, the situation isn't static - you never know what the situation will be in the future.

Secondly, law is pretty transferable - with some conversion exams, you are well placed to practice in most common law jursidictions following graduation from an Irish uni.

Thirdly, you don't have to be a lawyer after doing a law degree - lots of options exist, like journalism, teaching if you do a language as part of the degree, etc.

Fourthly, if it's what you want to do, go for it. Don't spend four years in a degree which you think might give you employment, but don't find interesting. Life is far too short.

felic

whats really scary is that no matter what course people decide to do, unemployment is almost a certainty on completion. Can anyone name one career at the moment where theres a shortage of graduates? Theres none! Even Medicine... theres been massive cuts in trainee doctor positions in Ireland and people are being forced to emigrate.
Recently, I heard that IT graduates are being offered trainee positions with no pay!!!!
This is very worrying!
And places on courses are probably set to drop in the upcoming years with budget slashes right across the board and lecturers being laid off!!!!

Someone mentioned in another thread about the Recession being over. That maybe but now we're in Recovery and theres a massive mess to clean up.

But on the bright side.. lets hope this planet X comes along and brings with it the return of Noahs flood! lol. We have to stay positive and not dwell on being scared or we wont even get up out of bed in the morning!

UglyFuc

does anybody think that the points wont change too much this year due to most of the changing in points was done last year.

if last year everybody going to do technical courses moved to aceademic courses and since this year theres roughly the same number of students, the same amount of people will go for the same type of course as last year. so last years points should be roughly the same as this year?

certainly the changes wont be as big as last year like up to 100 points rise on some courses

Doritogasm

I think the course points will rise by a bit but hopefully not by 100 points or something that crazy. But all these articles are making me more nervous about Wednesday

Ditzie

Doritogasm wrote: »

but hopefully not by 100 points or something that crazy.

Well hopefully not cas then my course will be at 615! there'd be a fair chance of me getting that! I'm seriously worried about wednesday though, think I'll be repeating!

IHeartChemistry

Same UCC will fly up cos it always does Ugh..Science here I come and the long route in

allym wrote: »

Damn not good for me as I want to do Occupational Therapy and demand for "other healthcare" courses has gone up by 25%

ED E

Last year, points for science in UCD rose from 305 to 385.

If this happens with Computer Science I'll be bolloxed. Increases over the last few years have been significantly less though. Fingers crossed.

D.R cowboy

unknown13 wrote: »

Nothing said about Law. I like

I seen that to man, hopefully the points will stay down for TCD

johnmcdnl

Lethal_Bullet wrote: »

If this happens with Computer Science I'll be bolloxed. Increases over the last few years have been significantly less though. Fingers crossed.

same with me - but UCD points are gonna go into the 400s I reckon because I was talkin to someone at the UCD open day and she was saying that places are being cut or something this year so - i dunno

I'm going for enterprise computing in DCU 335 last year so Hopeing it doesn't jump to 385 or something similar or I'm gonna be in a bit of bother I think...

nothing I can do now so just hoping for the best that all the mature students went for Arts and the likes - so then it wouldn't affect me :pac: sorry everyone goign for arts but it's called natural selection survivla of the fitess :P nothing can be done now so just gonna have to wait and see what I get..

fingers crossed

popsoks

Doritogasm wrote: »

I think the course points will rise by a bit but hopefully not by 100 points or something that crazy. But all these articles are making me more nervous about Wednesday

seriously hope this dont happen cause then it dont matter how many times i repeat wont b goin to college :O

hopefully that article right and teaching wont go up again :rolleyes:

popsoks

THFC wrote: »

Surprisingly, demand for courses in teaching and education has increased only marginally, despite the Government’s commitment to recruit extra teachers and maintain class size at current levels. Points are expected to be broadly similar to last year’s levels for teaching.

seriously hope this is right!! because thanks to my "amazing" biology teacher i more then likely failed it at higher level and needed a C3 at least to b saafe if the points took a serious hike up

mulner92

slight increase in arts? anybody know how much of an increase in points that would 10?15? surely not 20? really hope it isn't major

nadzcookie

Does that 'other health' places also include psychology? :eek::(

KnifeWRENCH

The two separate threads about this topic have now been merged.

thegoth

UglyFuc wrote: »

does anybody think that the points wont change too much this year due to most of the changing in points was done last year.

if last year everybody going to do technical courses moved to aceademic courses and since this year theres roughly the same number of students, the same amount of people will go for the same type of course as last year. so last years points should be roughly the same as this year?

certainly the changes wont be as big as last year like up to 100 points rise on some courses

Heathcare courses will go up as 25% more people applied
Teaching going up
Nursing and medicine going up
Science going up

All because numbers applying for these courses are all up

Construction courses all should go down as only 300 and something people have a construction related course as a number 1

Also, bear in mind because of cutbacks, third level institutes will very likely not be increasing places. Best case the number stay the same. Likely that they will be a reduction. No one will know this until Friday when the colleges inform the CAO regarding the number of places they have.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

thegoth wrote: »

Heathcare courses will go up as 25% more
Teaching going up

All because numbers applying for these courses are all up

No one will know this until Friday when the colleges inform the CAO regarding the number of places they have.

Why would teaching be going up!? The article only said a slight increase in the number of applicants.
This Friday? So we'll have a good idea that soon?

thegoth

I dont know. It doesnt seem to made sense, but Matt Cooper on todayfm had a career guidance teacher on the program yesterday either just before or just after 5 and thats what he said. The pod cast is likely on their website if you want to check it out. I dont think teaching has had a big increase though. Health care professionals, i.e social work, physiotherapy ..... saw the largest increase of 25%. Nursing is up 3%. This is all according to him

emzz

THFC wrote: »

Surprisingly, demand for courses in teaching and education has increased only marginally, despite the Government’s commitment to recruit extra teachers and maintain class size at current levels. Points are expected to be broadly similar to last year’s levels for teaching.

Niiiice:D Was expecting a 10/20 point increase...!:D

me too! oh god....THANK GOD!!

GVNDNN

What would a slight increase in arts mean??

By how much i wonder...hmm....:rolleyes:

**Timbuk2**

Arts in most colleges usually accepts a high number of people, so the points change won't be drastic. E.g. UCD Arts accepts 1200 students so the points couldn't change by much as a lot of students doing well won't make a huge difference as they will only fill up the first few places, which aren't much when you are talking about a large course, unless there is an entire increase/decrease in LC results across the board, which never happens

For smaller courses, e.g. Actuarial and Financial Studies in UCD which accepts about 40 students, a number of students doing well can seriously distort the points, which can cause the points to go up or down by a large enough margin, e.g. the points for it, as far as I can remember, in 2007, 2008 and 2009 were 520 555 and 530 respectively.

felic

someone mentioned we wont know till Friday when the colleges alert the CAO crowd how many places are available on the courses? Does this mean that the points for each course will be listed on the papers on Friday? Having to wait the whole weekend to find out will be awful! Would be nice to know Friday. Then its either celebrate or drown in sorrows and regroup then come monday!

Im so scared for the people I know trying to get Medicine. Before the HPAT, it could have been assumed that with a 10% increase in applicants anything below 570 would just be looking at repeating. But with this HPAT system, no one can really tell... but Im guessing they will all be jumping to about the 715 mark? So much for trying to get away from the points rat race for Medical Schools!
Same for Dentistry... usually a score of 530 would be enough... doubt that this year.
Dont know a lot about the other medical related courses they are talking about. Occupational Therapy, Speech Therapy, Physico, Pysch, they were always around the 530 mark as well. I assume all those will now jump. Not to mention courses like Radiography, Optometry, Biomedical Science and Biomedical Engineering... All courses having already been set quite high!!!!

There is comfort for Pharmacy applicants though. But not a bright future career wise down the line.
I think people looking at doing construction, IT, or financial careers are safe to think that the points wont change much from the last previous years; either they will stay at the level they have been or will drop.

Law... even though getting a bad rep, will prob stay around the same level as well... 500 and 520 with a language.

God this is just so horrible. Getting the results is bad enough but the second blow comes with the CAO offers and this year, everything just seems to be in the air! Heres hoping we will be put out of our misery by Friday!

arryanna

Jeez I've never been this nervous in my life! Really hoping for Law with Politics in UCD but don't know if I'll get in I hate waiting

Good luck to all tho,

allym

As far as points go we definitely won't know till Monday when offers come out! The announcements about the number of places will maybe give you some idea, for example if your course took in 30 people last year and this year it's only taking 20 then you'll know the points will be going up! But nothing's official until monday morning

MadRush

im hoping points for TSM french goes down....

might nab a few drinks tonight, help me sleep :P

Seloth

I want to do Politics and International relations in UL...Its a course of its own and not in an art course,but it is an arts degree...I should have worked harder but Im hoping to just make the points..d''ya think it will rise from the 350 it was the last two years

TheReverend

Does anyone know what day the paper prints the exact points, is it the 23rd aswell? Like that morning?

Lawliet

TheReverend wrote: »

Does anyone know what day the paper prints the exact points, is it the 23rd aswell? Like that morning?

Yeah it's the 23rd. They're in the papers before the actual offers are made though, last year someone had scans up a couple of hours before hand.