Shane Carwin linked to steriods case

rovert

http://blog.al.com/live/2010/08/pharmacist_in_mobile_ala_stero.html

MOBILE, Ala. -- A federal judge today handed down a 4-year prison term to a local pharmacist convicted of participating in a nationwide conspiracy to illegally sell anabolic steroids made in Mobile.

J. Michael Bennett, who was supervising pharmacist at Applied Pharmacy Services, was the first to be sentenced from a group of 5 men found guilty after a five-week trial earlier this year. His punishment was less than half of the 7 years and 4 months sought by prosecutors.

J Michael Bennett.JPGView full sizeJ. Michael Bennett ... gets four years in steroids case.
"I stand before you a different man than the one who worked for APS in 2005, even than the one who stood before the magistrate (judge) in 2007," a chastened Bennett told U.S. District Judge Ginny Granade. "I had no idea what I was doing was inappropriate."

Bennett's co-defendants, the owners of the pharmacy and an anti-aging clinic owner, are scheduled to be sentenced at a later date, and Granade suggested they face stiffer punishment.

"I don't think in the overall scheme of things, (Bennett's) culpability matches that of the pharmacy owners," the judge said.

Prosecutors referred to Bennett, 44, and the others in a sentencing memorandum as a "drug dealers in lab coats." They contended that Bennett played a key role in an enterprise involving rogue doctors and health clinics across the country who used the compounding pharmacy to supply healthy adults with dangerous steroids.

Some of those substances were veterinary drugs approved only for use in livestock.

"These are steroids for horses and cows, not for young people and humans," Assistant U.S. Attorney Donna Dobbins said.

According to court records, Applied Pharmacy Services shipped 762,388 dosages to 17 doctors and clinics from April 4, 2004, until Aug. 30, 2006. The U.S. Attorney's Office in Mobile contends that does not include many other doctors and clinics that they say participated in the conspiracy.

Those performance-enhancing drugs ended up in the hands of users ranging from professional athletes to teenagers looking to build body mass. Prosecutors cited 22 professional athletes who obtained steroids from Applied Pharmacy Services during the time Bennett worked there.

Snapshots of the 5 defendants convicted of steroids charges Feb. 8, 2009:

* A. Samuel Kelley II of Mobile. The president and CEO of the now-defunct Applied Pharmacy Services, he was convicted of 130 counts, including drug conspiracy, drug distribution, distribution to a person younger than 21 and money laundering.


* Jason R. Kelley of Mobile. The secretary and part owner of Applied Pharmacy, he was convicted of 127 counts, including drug conspiracy, drug distribution, distribution to a person younger than 21 and money laundering.


* Jodi C. Silvio of Baton Rouge, La. The treasurer of Applied Pharmacy and a fill-in pharmacist there, he was convicted of 60 counts, including drug conspiracy, drug distribution and money laundering.


* J. Michael Bennett of Mobile. The supervising pharmacist at Applied, he was convicted of five counts, including drug conspiracy, drug distribution and distribution to a person younger than 21.


* Brett W. Branch of Eaton, Colo. The owner of Infinite Health, he was convicted of 46 counts, including drug conspiracy, drug distribution, distribution to a person younger than 21 and money laundering conspiracy.


In court today, Dobbins named seven whose orders included Bennett's signature or initials:


* Shane Carwin, a former NCAA Division II wrestling champion who went on to become an Ultimate Fighting heavyweight champion.



* Kurt Angle, a former Olympic gold medal-winning wrestler and professional wrestler.



* Bob Howard, a pro wrestler from Mobile who performed under the name "Hardcore" Bob Holly.



* Tony Freeman, a professional bodybuilder nicknamed "The X-Man."



* Quincy Taylor, a professional bodybuilder.



* Dennis Newman, a professional bodybuilder.



* Troy Zuccolotto, a professional bodybuilder.


Court documents reference 6 other professional bodybuilders, 7 professional wrestlers and 2 professional baseball players by their initials only.

Dobbins pointed to intercepted phone conversations showing Bennett taking an active role in the operation, speaking with co-defendant Brett W. Branch, who brokered many of the steroids sales.

"As the supervising pharmacist, he was the one in charge," she said. "We expect and rely on the pharmacist to make sure what we are given is save, effective and legal."

Dobbins pointed to testimony from about a half-dozen people who described side effects ranging from an intense burning feeling on their flesh to shrinkage of their testicles to depression to quarter-sized acne on their backs.

Dobbins said users "suffered severe -- in some cases permanent -- side effects."

After threads like the UFC 116 thread colour me bemused. Thank god he isnt UFC champion as that would be badforthesport!

*Edit*

http://www.fightlawyerblog.com/2010/08/professional-athletes-linked-to-alabama.html

This blog has a link to court papers citing Carwin or someone using his initals ordered Tronbolone, Testosterone, Stanozohol and Nandrolone during a period covering his first 5 fights/pre-UFC career.

Attn: athletes when ordering PEDs dont ordered it under your own name or initals.

dunkamania

Thread reopened, as the story is being picked up by reputable mma sites.

Carwin had no comment, but plans to make a statement at a later date, his manager Jason Genet said when reached by MMA Fighting.


I reccommend ppl read our rules on posts regarding steroid allegations, before posting in this thread.

Thanks

MrStuffins

Jaysus.

Shane (allegedly) ordered the wrong stuff.

He should've ordered the "Gas-Tank 2000" pills!

seadnamac

Don't know what to make of it. It wouldn't really be that surprising if he has taken steriods at some stage of life but since these accusations only relate to his pre UFC days are we to think he suddenely stopped or just got smarter about it?

What is the UFC's drug testing policy anyway? Just after fights? Or does it depend on the state athletic commisions?

Edit: It's the athletic commisions.

MrStuffins

I agree with the above. If he took Steroids in his Pre-MMA days then it's no big deal.

As long as he's not cheating in competition.

Fozzy

MrStuffins wrote: »

I agree with the above. If he took Steroids in his Pre-MMA days then it's no big deal.

As long as he's not cheating in competition.

The case covers the period from April 2004 to August 2006. Carwin had his first five fights during that time as rovert said

MrStuffins

Fozzy wrote: »

The case covers the period from April 2004 to August 2006. Carwin had his first five fights during that time as rovert said

Ah

rovert

http://twitter.com/roynelsonmma

# I am surprised that athletes in mma do steroids ;( that explains body types about 2 hours ago via Facebook

:pac:

MrStuffins

rovert wrote: »

http://twitter.com/roynelsonmma



:pac:

Oh ffs!

I hope he's not being serious!

rovert

Anyone else think his silence is pretty damning for the self appointed white knight, working class hero of MMA?

scudzilla

rovert wrote: »

Anyone else think his silence is pretty damning for the self appointed white knight, working class hero of MMA?

Agreed, for somebody who is probably the most active Twitterer in MMA (Apart from Rogan), Carwin's silence is deafening

MrStuffins

No innocent until proven guilty?

scudzilla

MrStuffins wrote: »

No innocent until proven guilty?

Nah, lynch him, more fun :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Seriously, the guy is a massive twitterer and is ALWAYS on it, since the story broke he's not touched it. Many fans have asked him to say it isn't so.

If that was me, and i was innocent, i'd be screaming it off the rooftops

Willie Stroker

CARWIN HASN'T DONE NOTHING ILLEGAL

Lol sorry for the caps what carwin done nothing wrong in eyes of the ufc law , he will be fine its just the doctor who will probably go down for a few years !

MrStuffins

Willie Stroker wrote: »

CARWIN HASN'T DONE NOTHING ILLEGAL

Lol sorry for the caps what carwin done nothing wrong in eyes of the ufc law , he will be fine its just the doctor who will probably go down for a few years !

UFC Law?

seadnamac

Willie Stroker wrote: »

CARWIN HASN'T DONE NOTHING ILLEGAL

Lol sorry for the caps what carwin done nothing wrong in eyes of the ufc law , he will be fine its just the doctor who will probably go down for a few years !

What are you on about? It's the integrity of him as an athlete that is the talking point here.

MrStuffins

Just because he hasn't been Tweeting, doesnt condemn him!

maybe his arm twitched and he crushed his phone to dust in his hand!

MrStuffins

Just checked out Shane's Twitter actually, Scudzilla, are you trying to start a Tweet war with Shane? :pac:

rovert

I would just like to think that certain posters on here would be as quiet and open minded if this happened to other half of the UFC 116 main event. :rolleyes:

Carwin updated his twitter: http://twitter.com/ShaneCarwin/status/21366339819 and is now confident enough to give out yards to people after stategising with Dana.

Also Shane insults another fighters cardio!

# I love Roy Nelson trying to elevate his status by talking smacks. Hopefully he is doing so on a treadmil. Some have rolls he has a bakery. about 9 hours ago via TweetCaster

Plastikman_eire

rovert wrote: »

I would just like to think that certain posters on here would be as quiet and open minded if this happened to other half of the UFC 116 main event. :rolleyes:

Carwin updated his twitter: http://twitter.com/ShaneCarwin/status/21366339819 and is now confident enough to give out yards to people after stategising with Dana.

LOL this HAS happened to the other half of the 116 main event.

seadnamac

Plastikman_eire wrote: »

LOL this HAS happened to the other half of the 116 main event.

Since he's been a Mixed Martial Artist?

rovert

Plastikman_eire wrote: »

LOL this HAS happened to the other half of the 116 main event.

Not as an active MMA fighter bit of a difference there.

Raze_them_all

Willie Stroker wrote: »

CARWIN HASN'T DONE NOTHING ILLEGAL

Lol sorry for the caps what carwin done nothing wrong in eyes of the ufc law , he will be fine its just the doctor who will probably go down for a few years !

He has in american law, which I'm guessing is slightly more serious than this "ufc law" thing you mentioned

MrStuffins

Raze_them_all wrote: »

He has in american law, which I'm guessing is slightly more serious than this "ufc law" thing you mentioned

Plastikman_eire

rovert wrote: »

Not as an active MMA fighter bit of a difference there.

Not in my opinion. Neither guy has ever pissed hot after a fight, so can't be considered cheats. However there is a large question mark over both.

MrStuffins

This shouldn't really be turned into a discussion about Brock Lesnar.

I think this forum is catching Frank Mir syndrome!

rovert

Plastikman_eire wrote: »

Not in my opinion. Neither guy has ever pissed hot after a fight, so can't be considered cheats. However there is a large question mark over both.

Well over I think both question marks shifted over to the Brock side during the run up to UFC 116 and after as well.

Sorry but Carwin according to reports was taking a number of PED during his first 5 fights he is a cheat if true in my book.

Fromvert

MrStuffins wrote: »

This shouldn't really be turned into a discussion about Brock Lesnar.

I think this forum is catching Frank Mir syndrome!

I think Rovert already has that.

Gerard.C

So does this mean that Brock, after nearly dying, bet someone who has been on steroids half his career? What a legend. Best in the sport

MrStuffins

Gerard.C wrote: »

So does this mean that Brock, after nearly dying, bet someone who has been on steroids half his career? What a legend. Best in the sport

Bring on Fedor eh? :P

Plastikman_eire

Gerard.C wrote: »

Best in the sport

:eek:

:rolleyes:

rovert

Fromvert wrote: »

I think Rovert already has that.

Can you blame me on here?

Personally I’m not shocked or disappointed that he may have used steroids, just dismayed that Carwin left a paper trail using his legit contact details.

Gerard.C wrote: »

So does this mean that Brock, after nearly dying, bet someone who has been on steroids half his career? What a legend. Best in the sport

For the second time in his career. Remember Wrestlemania XIX?

seadnamac

Plastikman_eire wrote: »

Not in my opinion. Neither guy has ever pissed hot after a fight, so can't be considered cheats. However there is a large question mark over both.

Carwin has allegedly been on steriods while competing as a professional mixed martial arts fighter. Lesnar was allegedly on steriods for a period six years before he began competing as a mixed martial arts fighter. How can you compare the two? Bah, I knew this would turn into a Lesnar thing....

Plastikman_eire

seadnamac wrote: »

Carwin has allegedly been on steriods while competing as a professional mixed martial arts fighter. Lesnar was allegedly on steriods for a period six years before he began competing as a mixed martial arts fighter. How can you compare the two? Bah, I knew this would turn into a Lesnar thing....

The facts are that neither have failed a test for PEDs, both have evidence against them to suggest they have used in the past. EVERYTHING else is just speculation.

Gerard.C

MrStuffins wrote: »

Bring on Fedor eh? :P

He's not even in the top 5 rankings I'd say. How could he last with Lesnar, Cain or a roided up Crawin when he cant get out of rd 1 with Werdum?

seadnamac

Gerard.C wrote: »

He's not even in the top 5 rankings I'd say. How could he last with Lesnar, Cain or a roided up Crawin when he cant get out of rd 1 with Werdum?

Exactly. I reckon he should go back and try his luck in the local scene in Russia. He would enjoy it there, that's where all the real fans are.

rovert

Plastikman_eire wrote: »

The facts are that neither have failed a test for PEDs, both have evidence against them to suggest they have used in the past. EVERYTHING else is just speculation.

Oh dear

Way to miss the point.

seadnamac

Plastikman_eire wrote: »

The facts are that neither have failed a test for PEDs, both have evidence against them to suggest they have used in the past. EVERYTHING else is just speculation.

Fair enough, although personally I think the context of when exactly that 'past' refers to should be kept in mind.

Gerard.C

seadnamac wrote: »

Exactly. I reckon he should go back and try his luck in the local scene in Russia. He would enjoy it there, that's where all the real fans are.

But Fedor is a celebrity now, so he wouldnt really be welcome in his local scene any more. Keep the celebs on the Telly where they belong, they would only take the heart out of the true local scene

rovert

seadnamac wrote: »

Fair enough, although personally I think the context of when exactly that 'past' refers to should be kept in mind.

Lets look at the context:
Brock used legally prescribed HGH from a doctor for comestic reasons in an entertainment genre which was turning a blind eye from the top down.

Carwin used illegally prescribed amounts of a number of different steriods from a bent doctor to get a competitive advantage in an athletic contest.

Plastikman_eire

rovert wrote: »

Oh dear

Way to miss the point.

Not really.

You are implying that Carwin is a cheater because he (allegedly)ordered PED's during a period he was fighting. You might be correct, but as he has never failed a test it is just speculation regardless of any circumstantial evidence.

rovert

See my previous post, Plastikman_eire

Plastikman_eire wrote: »

Not really.

You are implying that Carwin is a cheater because he (allegedly)ordered PED's during a period he was fighting. You might be correct, but as he has never failed a test it is just speculation.

So he was "tricked" into ordering them? Did his finger slip on the "order now" button? Was he doing research? Was the money only resting in his account?

seadnamac

rovert wrote: »

Lets look at the context:
Brock used legally prescribed HGH from a doctor for comestic reasons in an entertainment genre which was turning a blind eye from the top down.

Carwin used illegally prescribed amounts of a number of different steriods from a bent doctor to get a competitive advantage in an athletic contest.

Now now, let's not let facts get in the way of an oppurtunity to bash that poxy celebrity Lesnar. He's bad for the sport you know.

cowzerp

Lads enough of the sarcastic replies in relation to that other troublesome thread, also there is no proof that he took steroids, there is allegations he ordered some, thats it-leave it at that.

barochoc

Wow, lets all jump on the "He's Guilty" bandwagon. :mad:

Innocent until proven guilty eh????

I'm sure you guys would expect the same treatment if you got dragged in to a case like this. :eek:

Shane Carwin LINKED, did you read that bit? LINKED!!!!!

His name may not even have been used. It could be an assumption made by the initials.

Wait till all the facts are out before shooting your mouth off people & then may be others will take you more seriously in future.

This is a typical race to say "I told you so"

rovert

barochoc wrote: »

Wow, lets all jump on the "He's Guilty" bandwagon. :mad:

Innocent until proven guilty eh????

I'm sure you guys would expect the same treatment if you got dragged in to a case like this. :eek:

Shane Carwin LINKED, did you read that bit? LINKED!!!!!

His name may not even have been used. It could be an assumption made by the initials.

Wait till all the facts are out before shooting your mouth off people & then may be others will take you more seriously in future.

This is a typical race to say "I told you so"

Who said he was guilty?

All anyone ever said that his reaction to the news is....interesting.

Clive

Just a few points for any doping debate:

1. Legal/illegal and permitted in sport/prohibited in sport are different things. Many substances are legal in some places, but prohibited.

2. Prohibited in-competition and out-of-competition are different.

3. Depending on the rules, possession can be an anti-doping violation, and punishment can be made after the fact.

4. There is no presumption of innocence. If you have a prohibited substance in your body (or your possession if that applies) you are guilty. You can try to prove your innocence after that. Strict athlete liability applies.

barochoc

rovert wrote: »

Who said he was guilty?

All anyone ever said that his reaction to the news is....interesting.

Twist it all you like, your comments only read one way & that's the way I read it & many others who come on here will do the same.

Are you saying he's innocent now?

MrStuffins

barochoc wrote: »

Wow, lets all jump on the "He's Guilty" bandwagon. :mad:

Innocent until proven guilty eh????

I'm sure you guys would expect the same treatment if you got dragged in to a case like this. :eek:

Shane Carwin LINKED, did you read that bit? LINKED!!!!!

His name may not even have been used. It could be an assumption made by the initials.

Wait till all the facts are out before shooting your mouth off people & then may be others will take you more seriously in future.

This is a typical race to say "I told you so"

I agree here. He should be considered innocent until proven guilty.

Just because he said "I didn't do it", doesn't mean he did it!

If he had said "The stories are lies, i didn't do anything wrong" i doubt anyone would be quick to say "well, he said he didn't do it, so he must not have done it"

rovert

barochoc wrote: »

Twist it all you like, your comments only read one way & that's the way I read it & many others who come on here will do the same.

Are you saying he's innocent now?

How am I twisting?

Saying he is innocent now? When did I say he was guilty?

Plastikman_eire

rovert wrote: »

See my previous post, Plastikman_eire



So he was "tricked" into ordering them? Did his finger slip on the "order now" button? Was he doing research? Was the money only resting in his account?

Ordering PED's isnt cheating. So at risk of sounding like a broken record; Until a fighter tests positive for performance enhancers then they can not be labelled a cheat.