Matt Tuck Tells A Whopper of a Lie

Motley Crue

In a recent interview with I Heart Guitar, Matt Tuck - lead vocalist for Bullet For My Valentine - lied through his teeth when he made the following comment

Yeah! I'm very proud of the fact that we've opened a lot of doors for the world of metal, you know what I mean? There are some people that like the band or whatever, and there are some people that ****ing totally hate us because of what we do, but at the same time, what we're doing for the genre as a whole is a good thing. We're bringing it to a whole mass of people who wouldn't have given a **** before we came along, and that sounds maybe a little bit arrogant, I know, but it's a fact!

This Whopper was promptly served with Cheese!

Seriously though, who does he think he is, and what kind of "doors" have this particular band opened - they're lucky to be still making records, and they're lucky not everyone has ignored them at this stage in their career. It would be like Trivium claiming that Metallica are now somehow more popular because of their music.

chin_grin

Unfortunately I think there is some truth in his quote. It's the whole "out with the old" attitude that the kiddies don't really go against until they're older and listen to the actual influences of new bands. But by then it's too late. Some new band revelling in the ashes of their predecessors have already made their quick buck.

Also I'd put it down to arrogance. I mean for a band like that too. They must be swimming in their own smugness. (I detest that sort of sh!t).

Malice

He has a point about increasing exposure for the metal genre. Was it Oscar Wilde who said the only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about? I suppose he means by opening doors that they've gotten people interested in metal.

As for Trivium well if people heard them and then went to check out Metallica's older stuff surely that's a good thing too?

Honestly I don't see where Matt Tuck has actually lied in that quote.

A Primal Nut

Lie? Its a statement of opinion, not fact. So it cant be a lie. I'm not saying I agree with him, but he's entitled to his opinion. It is possible some younger people got into metal partly thanks to them. Athough I doubt there are many, the fact is that as a member of the band he would obviously meet a lot of them, and he would base his opinion on that.

I remember seeing them support Guns N' Roses in the RDS in 2006; and it was either them or Funeral for a Friend (unfortunately i can't remember which one) and all their songs sounded the same. Then the lead singer said "This next song is our ballad." And I swear to God it sounded the exact same as all their other songs. Big metal riff, etc.

Max Power1

What he has said, although it may not be what fans of metal may want to hear, is probably more truth than lies imo.

Theres another oft reference quote where he says that BFMV are not a metal band, merely a "Metal influenced rock band"

Angron

At least he's telling the truth about sounding arrogant.

Malice

So in conclusion, Matt Tuck didn't lie but he's still Welsh and Motley Crue still doesn't like him .

Angron

Yep, that sounds about right

RayCon

Ive never even heard anything by Bullet For My Valentine ... but if their purpose was to increase their exposure in the cheap t-shirts section on play.com .. mission accomplished

Motley Crue

Denny M wrote: »

Yep, that sounds about right

More so because of BFMV as opposed to him being Welsh, I don't want to sound racist:eek:

Malice

RayCon wrote: »

Ive never even heard anything by Bullet For My Valentine

Take a look at this then. It's easily their best song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zszz5KsmSz8

Their acoustic renditions lend the song a very different feel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES6VscuwnQ0

FREETV

A Primal Nut wrote: »

Lie? Its a statement of opinion, not fact. So it cant be a lie. I'm not saying I agree with him, but he's entitled to his opinion. It is possible some younger people got into metal partly thanks to them. Athough I doubt there are many, the fact is that as a member of the band he would obviously meet a lot of them, and he would base his opinion on that.

I remember seeing them support Guns N' Roses in the RDS in 2006; and it was either them or Funeral for a Friend (unfortunately i can't remember which one) and all their songs sounded the same. Then the lead singer said "This next song is our ballad." And I swear to God it sounded the exact same as all their other songs. Big metal riff, etc.

I was at that gig and the sound was bloody awful, too muffled, bassy and flat sounding. I generall prefer indoor concerts, the sound is usually a lot better because of the enclosed space, acoustics, reverberation etc. Funeral For A Friend were rubbish and so are their songs. As regards Bullet For My Valentine, if a band uses the same gear for the whole set, dropped D tuning for every song, the numbers played are very distorted and played at a high tempo, with almost the same mixing desk levels then it will sound very similar and it is difficult to make out each note. The guy can sure move up and down his fretboard though. He was off key several times with his vocals, I hoped that his voice has improved since then singing live. Their riffs are still pretty standard too, licks, solos aren't much better either but there are a hell of a lot much poorer bands out there at the moment who think that the crap they are writing and playing is worthy to be named Metal and part of the METAL GENRE.

Sabre0001

Well if you make statements like "we're alright...", you're probably not going to get interviewed too often (and therefore left unexposed). So sometimes, you do have to embellish certain things.

Also, if there are a lot of younger people at their gigs, they can draw the association that it was BFMV music that got them into metal (regardless of whether that is right or wrong).

Useful.Idiot

I must admit BFMV kind of helped me on my way to discovering more metal. Got this tune on a metal hammer cd a mate loaned me. thought it was class at the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9t3TmAZEl8

its still daicent. ive heard they've gotten gayer though.

ph3n0m666

I had, in my opinion, the unfortunate experience of seeing them live in the Ambassador - brought my daughter as she likes them.

Good god, never been so bored in my life at a gig - but hell, the children seem to like them, wont someone think of the children?

RayCon

Malice_ wrote: »

Take a look at this then. It's easily their best song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zszz5KsmSz8

Thanks for the pointer .... sounds like American Pop/Rock to me ..

ride-the-spiral

He probably is right though. I got into Metal via popular metalcore and melodic death like Trivium and after a few years it led to listening to most different aspects of the metal genre.

How somebody came to like a certain type of music doesn't really matter, but while some people cry out against the "commercialisation" of metal or some crap like that, as far as I'm concerned the more people that listen to metal the better, no matter which subculture they can be considered a part of. At their height BFMV were advertised to and catered to the rather large emo (for want of a better word) subculture, and if some of those people decided to check out more metal or hardcore because of bands like BFMV or Bring Me the Horizon, that's just more support for the genres.

Angron

ph3n0m666 wrote: »

I had, in my opinion, the unfortunate experience of seeing them live in the Ambassador - brought my daughter as she likes them.

Good god, never been so bored in my life at a gig - but hell, the children seem to like them, wont someone think of the children?

Never! Suppress the children!


And getting more people into metal or not, I'll never stop hating BMTH. NEVER!

ph3n0m666

Denny M wrote: »

Never! Suppress the children!


And getting more people into metal or not, I'll never stop hating BMTH. NEVER!

could be worse - could have to bring to what she listens to now...and I just dont think I'd fit in with the Michael Bublé crowd

Motley Crue

ph3n0m666 wrote: »

could be worse - could have to bring to what she listens to now...and I just dont think I'd fit in with the Michael Bublé crowd

I dunno, didn't he cover the Eagles, wasn't a bad little number......:pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQcv2v8pmms

Besides, count yourself lucky, at least your girlfriend doesn't want to see this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqhrydRFQJc

Malice

RayCon wrote: »

Thanks for the pointer .... sounds like American Pop/Rock to me ..

True, their sound is very polished.

Denny M wrote:

And getting more people into metal or not, I'll never stop hating BMTH. NEVER!

And breathe.... .

Angron

Malice_ wrote: »

And breathe.... .

Ok, now I'll hold my breath, just to prove a point. No idea what the point is, but I'll prove it :P

Malice

Denny M wrote: »

Ok, now I'll hold my breath, just to prove a point. No idea what the point is, but I'll prove it :P

Nah, don't do that. You'll just turn blue and fall over eventually. I just meant to breathe as in take a deep breath and relax. Bullet For My Valentine aren't worth going mad over.

Angron

Malice_ wrote: »

Nah, don't do that. You'll just turn blue and fall over eventually. I just meant to breathe as in take a deep breath and relax. Bullet For My Valentine aren't worth going mad over.

But... I like the colour blue

Star Bingo

if you took the first letter of his first name n swapped it w/ the first in his surname, you'd get Muck.

any relation to Friar Tuck?

jamezy

Its ironic how he "opened doors for metal" when the take pride and make sure to not class themselves as metal. They are "hard rock with metal influences" (whatever the **** that means).

Seriously though their music has progressively deteriorated. Each single gets lamer and screams "pandering to the teen/hoody demographic" No substance what so ever.

Risteard

Well tbh, I can wholeheartedly say that if it wasn't for BFMV, I wouldn't be listening to metal. I first saw Tears Don't Fall on Scuzz and where before I would have just skipped, I landed in the middle of the guitar solo and I liked it. I listened to more of them and then said this is alright, I'll listen to more. So then I listened to Metallica, Iron Maiden Megadeth and Slayer and so on.

I'll still listen to a few songs by BFMV, not that often but they did 'open the door' to metal so to speak for me and I doubt I'm the only one.

Undergod

A Primal Nut wrote: »

Lie? Its a statement of opinion, not fact. So it cant be a lie.

Matt Tuck wrote:

that sounds maybe a little bit arrogant, I know, but it's a fact!

Matt Tuck begs to differ!

Yeah, they're a popular band, I'm sure they're a gateway band for many people who have otherwise not heard much metal.

Motley Crue

Undergod wrote: »

Matt Tuck begs to differ!

I'd rather he begged. That way he wouldn't earn his living playing music and I'd be a lot happier.

lord lucan

Lol,i never heard of Matt Tuck!:pac:

stateofflux

can't stand the band...but i think he has a point...a lot of listen to dodgy stuff before they find the real mccoy of the genre.....

Star Bingo

yeah they mature n wize up. but he's not gonna top himself having appealed to the wrong audience n made too much $, like the guy fronting the group i liked for one sole year before my teens. but these pop groups make a packet out of bein a brief fad for early adolescents. now more than ever as the market thrives whilst most of the output is to be fair to the likes of BFMV, probs unwitting plagiarism. which is hard to avoid now - but the industry must march on.. ... anyways he can afford to laugh it off

synyster

yea he's been arrogant but he's entitled to his own opinion and he's prob listenin to feed back from fans
whats a guy to do ?

Snoogans

Urgh, the whole BFMV-era of metal just turned me off it. It made me feel old or something. It wasn't that the music was ****e- though I didn't like it, not BFMV, Trivium, or any of the others- it was the musicians themselves. They were different. There was a lot less rock n' roll, a lot less darkness and drugs and a lot more matching haircuts and interviews full of exclamation marks.
**** that, frankly.
I could stomach BFMV or whoever being the next generation musically- I just wouldn't listen to any of their music, but I wouldn't disdain the kids getting into them. But when a band like My Chemical Romance can become banner bearers of the outcasts, frankly **** that generation of metal fans in the ass. They're just pop fans in black.

gizmo

Motley Crue wrote: »

It would be like Trivium claiming that Metallica are now somehow more popular because of their music.

More popular amongst younger audiences? Pretty sure that's exactly what Trivium did. I knew plenty of people who hadn't heard Metallica's first three albums but were big into Trivium. Same goes for My Chemical Romance, younger kids get into it and as they grow older they look back at the bands influences and go from there. To be honest I'm in favor of any band who help people expand then musical tastes, regardless of how I feel about them personally.

synyster

Trivium are basing all there music from Metallica they basically are a younger version of them
I'm more into my older rock its where all my music started and theres very few new rock bands that I'm into

Rented Mule

Who the hell is Matt Tuck ?

synyster

I'm thinkin if you dont know him he really aint important lol

hes the front man for "bullet for my valentine"

Motley Crue

wow is this conversation still going

I think I'm going to have to kill Matt Tuck

Tomorrow's headline people, word up

synyster

will be looking out for that
(I suggest you go into hiding lol)