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Lucan fireball

  • 11-08-2010 8:20pm
    #1
    Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭


    qucik, fireball, or meteorite, not sure but uits beautiful :)
    :eek::eek:


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  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I can still see it, anyone heading west down the motorway will have cracking view. Wow, my first time :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭delw


    Jake1 wrote: »
    I can still see it, anyone heading west down the motorway will have cracking view. Wow, my first time :)
    good man,now lay back&have a smoke :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭glossy


    :( cant see anything YET!!!


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    delw wrote: »
    good man,now lay back&have a smoke :D

    I will. Im so stoked. It was my Mams funeral yesterday, and I asked her for a sign. She always laughed at me for skywatching. So I knew the Persieds were coming and I said Mam I never see anything, send me a sign.
    :)

    I just stood on a chair to look out and its still travelling.


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    delw wrote: »
    good man,now lay back&have a smoke :D

    Duh, I just got that. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭thetonynator


    Did it just move fairly slowly accross the sky and then vanish, after going most of the way accross? if it did, it might have been the ISS . .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    There is a meteor shower for the next few nights, it started last night. Annual event.


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Did it just move fairly slowly accross the sky and then vanish, after going most of the way accross? if it did, it might have been the ISS . .

    nAH, I watch for that, it wasnt the ISS. metoerite. for sure, big blazing orangeyred thing. huge plume trailing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭delw


    Jake1 wrote: »
    I will. Im so stoked. It was my Mams funeral yesterday, and I asked her for a sign. She always laughed at me for skywatching. So I knew the Persieds were coming and I said Mam I never see anything, send me a sign.
    :)

    I just stood on a chair to look out and its still travelling.
    sorry to hear that,hope it was the sign you were lookin for in this hard time for you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    It must be one of the longest ever recorded in atmosphere?


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  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You tell me, Gee.:rolleyes: I dont know, I just know I saw it for about 5 mins...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,150 ✭✭✭Deep Easterly


    Wow, this sound amazing! Wall to wall cloud here so can't see it! :(:(:(

    Any pics will be most welcome!


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wow, this sound amazing! Wall to wall cloud here so can't see it! :(:(:(

    Any pics will be most welcome!
    Sorry DE, I had my phone switched off from yesterday. Only camera I have at moment.

    Fecking raging meself :) I dragged my partner up quick quick LOL nearly gave him heart attack but he saw it too :)

    I hope someone caught it.
    Should be good night here in Lucan, skies are lovely, thats why I was looking out earlier the sky was sooo stunning.

    Im still buzzin :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭delw


    jake1 you should report it to astromomy ireland if it was in sky for so long


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    delw wrote: »
    jake1 you should report it to astromomy ireland if it was in sky for so long

    I will, Id like to hear it verified myself anyway.


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jake1 wrote: »
    I will, Id like to hear it verified myself anyway.

    Just emailed them .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    Hang on a second, you saw a meteor lasting 5 minutes? I don't think so. Heading what direction? I'd say a more likely explanation is a plane with one engine on fire rather than a meteor crawling across the sky. Meteors only glow because of the friction due to their speed, so I'm afraid that was no meteor you saw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭doccy


    Su Campu wrote: »
    Heading what direction?

    Down the N4 towards Cellbridge :eek:
    Now stop raining on Jakes parade lol.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 270 ✭✭Elmo5


    Bloody hell and I missed it!


    Just looked out and saw what I think was a shooting star or at least one moving fairly fast :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Did a search on twitter.

    This guy in London (@zacharyvoase) said :

    Bright orange light streaking across London sky - meteor? Rocket? Burning plane? 39 minutes ago via TweetDeck

    then...

    Of course, Perseids. Still, that was a huge fireball. 31 minutes ago via Seesmic

    Someone else in the UK (Jules_MM) :

    Could have sworn i just saw a fireball in the sky.. was definitely something.. 11 minutes ago via Snaptu.com


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,919 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    If it lasted that long and moved that far, it may have been an outburst of the aurora borealis, could you see any unusual light outside of the streak? For that to have been a meteor, it would have to be very high up, the average Perseid fireball lasts about 3-5 seconds and they move very fast compared to the ISS for example; that's because they are burning up a few kilometres overhead and not orbiting at 200-500 kilometers.

    If that was an auroral streak then we're in for a strong showing later tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭jambofc




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    If that was an auroral streak then we're in for a strong showing later tonight.

    Wouldn't think so, we have no solar activity expected and their is no G-Scale warning. The Auroral patterns is quite red but well confined. We'd Need a G3 to see anything.

    A meteor can hang in the sky for a long time, almost skimming the upper atmosphere. It's as likely to be a stray and not part of the expected shower.

    I saw one years ago and sure enough it looked like a burning plane and it did hang there moving almost in slow motion.

    The time period is still pushing even that a bit though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,919 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Well lots of people have reported seeing the same thing over a large area, so it must have been quite high up alright.

    This is good news as I was planning to have a look this evening here, the skies will be clear. And by then we will be eight hours closer to the peak of the event which I believe is some time late tonight and on Thursday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,387 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Cloudy here. And Sat24 shows 1,500 miles of cloud coming from the Northwest though it may break up inland I cant be ar$ed going inland


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Su Campu wrote: »
    Hang on a second, you saw a meteor lasting 5 minutes? I don't think so. Heading what direction? I'd say a more likely explanation is a plane with one engine on fire rather than a meteor crawling across the sky. Meteors only glow because of the friction due to their speed, so I'm afraid that was no meteor you saw.

    Actually , no you hang on a second, I know what I saw and how long I saw it for. I already stated it was heading west. Im a grown women who can tell difference between an aircraft on fire and a fireball. Dont be so nasty and assuming.


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Some people think they know f****** everything.:mad:
    Aircraft engine on fire. Jesus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,919 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Clear skies here at midnight, went out for a look and saw one or two ordinary meteors, nothing as spectacular as what you saw ... might have another look before calling it a night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Chinese Lantern? Although moving westwards AGAINST a NW wind probably not...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭91011


    Danno wrote: »
    Chinese Lantern? Although moving westwards AGAINST a NW wind probably not...

    I hate to blow everyones theory on this one & agree with above, but it is chinese lanterns.

    They have come on sale recently in a fair few stores - you light them, let them go and they will float with the prevailing winds for up to a mile.


    I think Tuthills sell them.

    Don't forget on a calm night, the prevailing breeze can come in off the sea.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    91011 wrote: »
    I hate to blow everyones theory on this one & agree with above, but it is chinese lanterns.

    The description is not how people usually describe the Chinese Lanterns. And the reports from locations several hundreds of miles apart would not support the Chinese Lantern in this incident.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    Jake1 wrote: »
    Actually , no you hang on a second, I know what I saw and how long I saw it for. I already stated it was heading west. Im a grown women who can tell difference between an aircraft on fire and a fireball. Dont be so nasty and assuming.

    Look I really don't to cause any offence but it was definatly was not a meteor , I was out watching perseids last night at the time you posted , I was looking all over sky and didn't see a thing , only lots of normal meteors that last half a second.

    I think Su Campu was trying to say that if it took 5 mins to cross the sky it would not have the speed to glow. Last night I saw quite a few satellites heading west. At certain times they can glow bright orange due to the sun.

    It's absaloutely not possible it was a meteor. I have set a few of these chinese lantterns off before , they are spectacular , and beleive me they go for more than a mile. Ten miles would be more like it!

    No offence meant but just trying to clear some things up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭91011


    gbee wrote: »
    The description is not how people usually describe the Chinese Lanterns. And the reports from locations several hundreds of miles apart would not support the Chinese Lantern in this incident.

    They are on sale in novelty / discount shops all over the country - I saw them in one wholesaler since early June.

    They will fly for up to 20 minutes and cost about 2 quid each.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    gbee wrote: »
    The description is not how people usually describe the Chinese Lanterns. And the reports from locations several hundreds of miles apart would not support the Chinese Lantern in this incident.

    Well I was out last night watching at the time posted here, could not see any evidence of this at all! Just normal 30,000mp meteors.

    So that blows the theory of it a space or high altitude event, what ever it was it was low down, moving slow , most prabaly a chinese lantern.

    That sighting in carlow is a totaly different report , it says it was at cloud level and heading southeast , not the same sighting.
    Be reasonable , these chinese lanterns have really taken off(im proud of the pun!:D) , is it really so impossible that was one was let off in
    Dublin and one in london on the same night?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    Danno wrote: »
    Chinese Lantern? Although moving westwards AGAINST a NW wind probably not...

    Wind was East/Northeast last night , not westerly.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    Look I really don't to cause any offence but it was definatly was not a meteor , .

    We do have a variety of displays, by far the most common is the small white streak of light, over in a nano second or lasting a few seconds at most.

    We have the mini fireballs, fast moving flames that may break up into a few pieces or seemingly just fizzle out. These will last several seconds to tens of seconds.

    The skimming meteor may never land and may never burn up completely. They will look like giant fireballs and travel across the sky, they have been known to last minutes.

    This one does seem to be a record breaker. Even the satellite as described should not have remained visible for the reported length of time either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    gbee wrote: »
    We do have a variety of displays, by far the most common is the small white streak of light, over in a nano second or lasting a few seconds at most.

    We have the mini fireballs, fast moving flames that may break up into a few pieces or seemingly just fizzle out. These will last several seconds to tens of seconds.

    The skimming meteor may never land and may never burn up completely. They will look like giant fireballs and travel across the sky, they have been known to last minutes.

    This one does seem to be a record breaker. Even the satellite as described should not have remained visible for the reported length of time either.

    If that was the case I would have seen it , as would thousands of others , not just one person.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    If that was the case I would have seen it , as would thousands of others , not just one person.

    I know, I ran out a few times as the report was dropping in 'live', I did have cloud in the critical area, but I had been looking out at the reported time too and I should have seen something in the clear bit of sky.

    But I soon got almost total cloud cover.

    When I came in to see the first report last night I said 'Dammit, how did I miss that?' ~ rushed out again cloud was gathering in patches.

    I agree, more should have seen this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    gbee wrote: »
    I know, I ran out a few times as the report was dropping in 'live', I did have cloud in the critical area, but I had been looking out at the reported time too and I should have seen something in the clear bit of sky.

    But I soon got almost total cloud cover.

    When I came in to see the first report last night I said 'Dammit, how did I miss that?' ~ rushed out again cloud was gathering in patches.

    I agree, more should have seen this.

    The only cloud here was to my southwest , so I had a perfect view. I was raging about it too when I first heard.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    Jake1 wrote: »
    Actually , no you hang on a second, I know what I saw and how long I saw it for. I already stated it was heading west. Im a grown women who can tell difference between an aircraft on fire and a fireball. Dont be so nasty and assuming.

    I'm not being nasty. As others have said, you would imagine something so spectacular and rare as a 5 minute fireball would have at least made the news, but you're the only one on here who saw anything. You would imagine several pilots would have seen something, but there's not a mention on PPrune either, which is a fairly good indicator, as virtually everything (good and bad :rolleyes: ) gets a mention on there. Incidentally, there's no mention of a plane in troulble either, so it most likely wasn't that either, but what I said was that was a more likely explanation.

    I don't know what you saw. I just don't think it was a meteor, that's all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    Su Campu wrote: »
    I'm not being nasty. As others have said, you would imagine something so spectacular and rare as a 5 minute fireball would have at least made the news, but you're the only one on here who saw anything. You would imagine several pilots would have seen something, but there's not a mention on PPrune either, which is a fairly good indicator, as virtually everything (good and bad :rolleyes: ) gets a mention on there. Incidentally, there's no mention of a plane in troulble either, so it most likely wasn't that either, but what I said was that was a more likely explanation.

    I don't know what you saw. I just don't think it was a meteor, that's all.

    Exactly , nobody was being nasty or meant any harm, chances are it waasn't a high altitude firball at all because otherwise it would have been visable from almost everywhere in NW Europe , and with anybody who is interesed in astronamy would be out watching last night , and would be the first people to report it.

    At the time reported I saw an aircraft heading towards dublin , would had have a perfect view. Certainly any nightime air corps operations such as maratime patrol, garda air support ect. would certainly have made a report if anything was seen and we would have heard that in the news by now. I suppose airline pilots would have too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭Hornswoggle


    Spotted this when I was driving home through Firhouse in Dublin last night so I pulled over and watched it.

    It saw it for about three minutes, initially thought it was a plane on fire but knew it couldn't be from the size and speed. Lost view of it for roughly a minute when a cloud got in the way but it reappeared then and was less bright.

    As far as I'm concerned it was definitely a meteor, not a chinese lantern. I've lit chinese lanterns loads of times and it had a completely different shape. What's more, it had a huge tail and slowly burned out as it edged towards the horizon. Very beautiful and am chuffed I spotted it! IMO it was a skimming meteor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭spideog7


    Iridium flare perhaps?? Can be very bright, although they normally don't last that long. Basically happens when a Satellite shines the sun onto the dark side of the earth (like you can do with a mirror or your watch on a sunny day), they call them Iridium flares because they are most common with the Iridium satellites due to their shape.

    Here's a table of them over the past 48 hours (from this website) for the location at the the N4 M50 intersection, I just picked it randomly. Current time at home is BST (GMT+1) the times listed on this table are GMT, I dunno if any of the times line up with when you said it though.

    screenshot2aw.png

    You'll notice that these have a fairly small footprint because they just shine on a specific area so the last one on that table for example shows you 40km from the centre and the intensity has reduced from -8 (very bright- twice as bright as Venus) to 0 (dim like a star).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Redsunset


    Very interesting because they were all about it on Beat fm this morning,loads of callers had seen it so what went on they don't know.


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You can all believe what you want :) I know what I saw, and for the record, i was NOT the only one that saw it. Dont assume because you miss something, that everyone does. Dont be hatin' on me.:D

    It was not chinese lanterns, Ive seen them, it was not aircraft, it was a fireball that lasted aprrox 5 mins streaking across the sky.

    Anyway, peace all, hope there is some good spotting for us all tonight.
    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    Jake1 wrote: »
    You can all believe what you want :) I know what I saw, and for the record, i was NOT the only one that saw it. Dont assume because you miss something, that everyone does. Dont be hatin' on me.:D

    It was not chinese lanterns, Ive seen them, it was not aircraft, it was a fireball that lasted aprrox 5 mins streaking across the sky.

    Anyway, peace all, hope there is some good spotting for us all tonight.
    :)

    If your absaloutely sure of what you saw that's fair enough.

    I think it's time to focus on tonight , maybe a repeat of what you saw over Wex?:)

    Cloud is starting to break up now so hopefully!:D


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cheers for that Beasterly.
    I would like to say sorry for jumping down everyones throat the other night. I had a **** week, and was very highly strung :(

    Hope some of you all saw something last night, too cloudy here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,667 ✭✭✭WolfeIRE


    Jake1 wrote: »
    I will. Im so stoked. It was my Mams funeral yesterday, and I asked her for a sign..

    sincere condolences Jake. Hope you and the family are doing ok


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    Jake1 wrote: »
    Cheers for that Beasterly.
    I would like to say sorry for jumping down everyones throat the other night. I had a **** week, and was very highly strung :(

    Hope some of you all saw something last night, too cloudy here.

    Sorry for your loss Jake1.

    I suppose I was a bit harsh too.

    Not a thing to be seen here last night , 100% cloud cover:rolleyes: , will try again tonight.:)


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Thanks for the kind words. :) We are all doing well, great memories to get us through it.

    I sat out last night for a bit, but only managed to see one shooting star. Very short, but very sweet :)


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