Call for Irish women to boycott mass on 26 September

Run_to_da_hills

"An 80-year-old woman is calling for all women in Ireland to boycott mass on 26 September.

Jennifer Sleeman wants to let the church authorities in the Vatican and in Ireland know that women are fed up with being, what she describes as, 'second class citizens' in the church.

Ms Sleeman, from Clonakilty in Cork, said women are very powerful and make up more than half of people who go to mass"

She could get excommunicated and burn in hell for this :eek:

Fair play to her for speaking out against this cult at that age..

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0811/religion.html

SV

That's more like it..

Nice to see that generation doing something

WindSock

Done.

fontanalis

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

"An 80-year-old woman is calling for all women in Ireland to boycott mass on 26 September.

Jennifer Sleeman wants to let the church authorities in the Vatican and in Ireland know that women are fed up with being, what she describes as, 'second class citizens' in the church.

Ms Sleeman, from Clonakilty in Cork, said women are very powerful and make up more than half of people who go to mass"

She could get excommunicated and burn in hell for this :eek:

Fair play to her for speaking out against this cult at that age..

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0811/religion.html

If there was a hell.

Doop

Its going be hard to boycott something ive never done, but I endevor to try

Biggins

fontanalis wrote: »

If there was a hell.

...They'd name it after my ex-wife.

starlit

Go on ya good thing! At 80 years old the woman should still be allowed to speak her mind!
I've been trying to boycott mass for years, but to no avail when I am at home only when I live away from home can do that without anyone knowing he he he!

Banned Account

Don't be taken in by this - 'tis but a cunning ploy - Sleeman is a Jewish name.




















(I may be talking out of my arse)

alwaysadub

I'll be on my way back from a weekend away that day, but i'll try my best not to stop off for mass on the way so. :pac:

amacachi

Slow news day for RTE?

rossie1977

does anyone know an irish woman over the age of 50 who isn't very religious, cause i don't

Sykk

"Yes you're dead right, make a stand! And while you're at it, make me a Sandwich."

Wazdakka

This is all because the priests were showing favourtism to little boys isn't it?

Wazdakka

rossie1977 wrote: »

does anyone know an irish woman over the age of 50 who isn't very religious, cause i don't

Never said this before... but...

My Ma.

bonerm

80 y/o? Getting on then. It'd be just her luck if 26/9 was the day/week she dies. Then she misses out on Heaven after an (up-to-then at least) exemplary attendance record.

whatdoicare

rossie1977 wrote: »

does anyone know an irish woman over the age of 50 who isn't very religious, cause i don't

Yeah, what is it with women of a certain age being ultra religious......is it like a symptom of menopause?
Oh noes! I never want to be fifty....:eek:

Teclo

So the Irish Times and RTE want people to boycott Mass. No surprise there.

And what is it with Cork people and strikes?

storm2811

Wazdakka wrote: »

Never said this before... but...

My Ma.

My Ma too!

But she never goes to mass so I don't see the point,if she doesn't show up it won't be any different than any other Sunday.:pac:

steddyeddy

considering the fact that a person who signed two victims of child abuse to silence is still working in the church and in the very least of the atrocities mentioned in the ryan report priests who urinated on children are still going unpunished both by the law of this country and cannon law then yes boycotting it wont be a problem. the problem will come if i ever meet a F*cker who tore the soul out of children already down on their luck.

prinz

rossie1977 wrote: »

does anyone know an irish woman over the age of 50 who isn't very religious, cause i don't

Yes.

starlit

Seriously if catholic priests/nuns could marry and have kids think this whole escapade could be solved in the church! Not much of that kind of cac going on in england like where you have reverands and vicars etc.

starlit

rossie1977 wrote: »

does anyone know an irish woman over the age of 50 who isn't very religious, cause i don't

I know too many over the age of 50 who are far too religious for my likeing. It just bores me!

bluto63

I've been supporting her cause longer than it's been a cause

prinz

snuggles285 wrote: »

Seriously if catholic priests/nuns could marry and have kids think this whole escapade could be solved in the church! Not much of that kind of cac going on in england like where you have reverands and vicors etc.

Actually studies have shown no difference in rates of abusers between the RCC and other denominations which do not practice celibacy. The fact that a child is most likely to be abused by a parent than anyone also belies the celibacy is to blame argument. The only church to release proper figures relating to abuse has been the Roman Catholic so it appears as if it presents a much larger issue there than say Rabbis, vicars etc. The prevalence of the RCC in Ireland distorts the real picture.

starlit

I don't get why old folks get into such a hype over religion its a clut for all I care.

chin_grin

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Jennifer Sleeman wants to let the church authorities in the Vatican and in Ireland know that women are fed up with being, what she describes as, 'second class citizens' in the church.

So what does that make the innocent head-f*cked (literally) children then? Women. Always trying to take someone else's thunder. For shame. :pac:

Pawpad666

I've been boycotting it for years but I'll make an extra special effort to avoid it that day.

mikom

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

"An 80-year-old woman is calling for all women in Ireland to boycott mass on 26 September.

Yeah, really brave of her to call for this whilst the catholic church is at the height of its power.......

I would also like to call for a boycott on Dodo's

the_syco

Fitzcaraldo wrote: »

Don't be taken in by this - 'tis but a cunning ploy - Sleeman is a Jewish name.

She converted 58 years ago.

Minstrel27

amacachi wrote: »

Slow news day for RTE?

If it makes it onto six one then yes.

moonpurple

mikom wrote: »

Yeah, really brave of her to call for this whilst the catholic church is at the height of its power.......

I would also like to call for a boycott on Dodo's

is the roman catholic church at the height of its power?

spanish empire 1300 - they ruled the known world together with spain

led to ireland being colonised just in case we became a headache for the protestant UK

today most people in the english speaking world are not catholic...

most powerful politicians are not Catholic
the top men in china, russia, usa, etc etc

( are you ronan mullen?):pac:

bonerm

mikom wrote: »

Yeah, really brave of her to call for this whilst the catholic church is at the height of its power.......

I would also like to call for a boycott on Dodo's

Agreed. This is just the kind of feisty woman who (had she been German and of that era) would probably waited til about 1947 to stand up to the Nazi's.

mikom

moonpurple wrote: »

is the roman catholic church at the height of its power?

spanish empire 1300 - they ruled the known world together with spain

led to ireland being colonised just in case we became a headache for the protestant UK

today most people in the english speaking world are not catholic...

most powerful politicians are not Catholic
the top men in china, russia, usa, etc etc

( are you ronan mullen?):pac:

Whoosh....

prinz

moonpurple wrote: »

is the roman catholic church at the height of its power?

You might want a butterfly net to catch that one, it seems to have gone..

Pace2008

snuggles285 wrote: »

I don't get why old folks get into such a hype over religion its a clut for all I care.

It was pretty much the only way of life in Ireland when they were growing up, and one's unlikely to change their philosophical leanings at the age of 75.

Furthermore, whilst I have no love for the Catholic Church, and am glad mass attendance is on the wane in this country, it does give elderly folk like my granny and granda something to do with their limitless free time, and along with bridge every second night, it's a chance to socialise with like-minded people.

mikom

feelingstressed wrote: »

The CC is at one of it's lowest points in this country.

Now if only I had intimated that in my first post.

feelingstressed wrote: »

The same system has been in place for all her 80 years but she feels so strongly about this she is only able to speak up now?

Dancing on a coffin to be honest.

seamus

feelingstressed wrote: »

The CC is at one of it's lowest points in this country.
And now she feels able to speak up.

Actually, this is kind of the whole point. This woman isn't anti-Catholic. She's very Catholic. She sees a church at the lowest ebb of it's power, haemorrhaging believers and priests, constantly being rocked by scandals and corruption, yet all the while the heads of her Church are burying their heads in the sand, refusing to address any of its problems and refusing to give its most fervent adherents (women) the ability to take better charge and save it. So she's standing up to tell them to get their **** together.

You see she's not standing up against the Catholic church, she's attempting to stand up for the Catholic church because she wants to save it.

Of course the rest of us really want to see the institution collapse and burn, so we'll egg her on regardless.

ShooterSF

So wait, she a member of an organisation with a dictator (God, real or not) as its' leader who makes decisions like favouring man. Didn't he tell Eve she was Adam's property or such after the whole fruitgate debacle? And instead of leaving said horrible organisation she want's to protest from within.

Bit like a black man joining the KKK and then complaining it treats blacks like second class citizens

Rented Mule

Where was the boycott when they were raping and torturing children ?

OutlawPete

I always see this hot chick at the chapel but now she's gonna boycott Sunday mass??

When she’d go up to receive, I’d kneel down and watch her pass, try to lick her ass.

mikom

OutlawPete wrote: »

When she’d go up to receive, I’d kneel down and watch her pass, try to lick her ass.

Was she a Mod?
I joke, I joke.

bronte

Fair play to herself.

Fcukers aren't happy unless they're taking our powah.

ancapailldorcha

prinz wrote: »

Actually studies have shown no difference in rates of abusers between the RCC and other denominations which do not practice celibacy. The fact that a child is most likely to be abused by a parent than anyone also belies the celibacy is to blame argument. The only church to release proper figures relating to abuse has been the Roman Catholic so it appears as if it presents a much larger issue there than say Rabbis, vicars etc. The prevalence of the RCC in Ireland distorts the real picture.

Care to cite a few?

lynski

prinz wrote: »

Actually studies have shown no difference in rates of abusers between the RCC and other denominations which do not practice celibacy. The fact that a child is most likely to be abused by a parent than anyone also belies the celibacy is to blame argument. The only church to release proper figures relating to abuse has been the Roman Catholic so it appears as if it presents a much larger issue there than say Rabbis, vicars etc. The prevalence of the RCC in Ireland distorts the real picture.

Couple of things, there is actually no studies, AFAIK, as the RCC will not cooperate, but i stand to be corrected on that.
The RCC has never released figures related to any abuse, in fact in Ireland they have fought tooth and nail to stop any information coming out. Again, correct me if you can.
The abuse by members in the RCC was (is?) so deeply facilitated, covered-up, unpunished, unacknowledged by every level and every branch of the RCC that no comparison can be made with abuse in other churches, organisations or in any home. The supporting organisation is simply not there in other religions to facilitate the numbers of victims or abusers, or timeframes.
The continued references by supporters of the RCC to abuse by family members is a smokescreen and any unfair attempt at muddy the waters of the criminal activities of the RCC in this country and others in the last century.
the sooner this cult crashes and burns the better.
Good article here http://www.newsweek.com/2010/04/07/mean-men.html

ancapailldorcha

lynski, you're making a lot more sense. I'm no expert on the subject but as far as I know Ratzinger was involved in covering up abuse in America (not too sure about that) according to a rather excellent Stephen Fry video I saw here recently. I don't think it ever occurred to him to report it, his primary concern was for the clergyman in question and the church's reputation, though ironically enough they seem to be doing an excellent job of destroying that themselves anyway these days.

ejmaztec

Just so's I boycott the right place, would the church be a big pointy thing in the middle of a town?

scientific1982

Any woman who goes to mass is doing her gender a great disservice. The way the Catholic church has treated women is beyond contempt. If my mother had listened to those frustrated virgins a few decades ago I would never have known my sister.

starlit

Is there a lock in by any chance?:D

blackev

I am not religious but i support the boycott, women should not be excluded from a job on religious ground, and I think that women would improve the church and possibly save it (unfortunately), I would almost go to church just to see it.

fifi_kitten

I think she is to be commended. As previously noted; many women past 50 tend to be militant in their devotion to the catholic church, and happily ignore the fact that this church treats them as second class citizens.

Motley Crue

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Jennifer Sleeman wants to let the church authorities in the Vatican and in Ireland know that women are fed up with being, what she describes as, 'second class citizens' in the church.

Good for her, standing up in what she believes in, good for her!

However, I don't think most people even half her age attend mass on a weekly or even monthly basis so I don't feel it makes a blind bit of difference