New Weezer, mediocre single, bizarre album cover.

johnny_ultimate

http://www.avclub.com/articles/weezer-reveals-new-album-cover-that-looks-like-but,43973/

So after the ridiculous album cover for the ridiculously titled Raditude, Weezer almost outdo themselves with a truly bizarre cover for their new album, entitled Hurley, which they have chosen to interpret literally. That's the face of Jorge Garcia, who plays Hurley in Lost. I thought it was kind of funny at first, now I just think it's weird :pac:

New song too posted on their facebook page too (why oh why am I a fan of Weezer, facebook?). Better than that US soccer anthem, still pretty dull IMO!

Shame to see Weezer go progressively downhill like this

sink

I still regularly listen to The Blue Album and Pinkerton, both of which were inspired. They've gone progressively downhill since then. I was hoping that Rivers Cuomo would be jolted out of his music writing coma by the bus crash in which he and his family almost died, but sadly it doesn't appear so.

johnny_ultimate

sink wrote: »

I still regularly listen to The Blue Album and Pinkerton, both of which were inspired. They've gone progressively downhill since then. I was hoping that Rivers Cuomo would be jolted out of his music writing coma by the bus crash in which he and his family almost died, but sadly it doesn't appear so.

Yeah they're two albums I'll return to a lot too. Blue Album is one of the few albums I've enjoyed from when I was very young through to this day - just brilliant fun. Pinkerton is a masterpiece, every so often a re-listen to it reminds me how good it is - perhaps a defining geek rock album! Things started to go downhill with the Green album (which is listenable to, if completely unremarkable) and have just continued on downhill since.

In case anyone hasn't heard it, and sorry for subjecting to it (possibly better ignored) but this is the true lowpoint of their recent output:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7nCt6vWOxQ

MilanPan!c

Personally, I only ever liked the Blue record (and all the b-sides). I saw them a HUGE number of times, back then, and was even very friendly with them on a personal level. But I HATED Pinkerton and EVERYTHING they've done since.

Everything.

This latest craptastic move is par for the course.

thorbarry

I used to get excited about new weezer albums, thinking that this is it, the return to form. Not any more, I was hoping the red album would be good. I listened to that about twice, haven't heard the last album and wont listen to this new album

I dont feel disappointed.... more let down (starting to sound like my folks now )

On the plus side Alone: The Home Recordings of Rivers Cuomo is pretty good

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alone:_The_Home_Recordings_of_Rivers_Cuomo

Feu

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Yeah they're two albums I'll return to a lot too. Blue Album is one of the few albums I've enjoyed from when I was very young through to this day - just brilliant fun. Pinkerton is a masterpiece, every so often a re-listen to it reminds me how good it is - perhaps a defining geek rock album! Things started to go downhill with the Green album (which is listenable to, if completely unremarkable) and have just continued on downhill since.

In case anyone hasn't heard it, and sorry for subjecting to it (possibly better ignored) but this is the true lowpoint of their recent output:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7nCt6vWOxQ

OH NO! This is terrible! I hadn't heard, i guess, being female, and underground during the world cup I'd think it was a joke if they weren't so serious! Like a terrible mashup of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt_ro2aerQg

but nowhere near as good [or bad;)] or either of them. It sounds like typewriters eating tin foil being kicked down the stairs. But boring. It's like when a boyband tries to do rock, or something. Just painful. I'm not the hugest Weezer fan but i like pinkerton and i used to think they were alright! I'm so upset by that "anthem" yuck. gak, it's stuck in my head now.

Miguel_Sanchez

Hey look guys - Weezer are still releasing records!

Who knew?

johnny_ultimate

Feu wrote: »

OH NO! This is terrible! I hadn't heard, i guess, being female, and underground during the world cup I'd think it was a joke if they weren't so serious! Like a terrible mashup of

I despise football, stumbled across it on the net. Bizarre piece of music, I think you're two youtube mashup links sum it up well. Two word review of track: **** sandwich.

Jeff_Lebowski wrote: »

Hey look guys - Weezer are still releasing records!

Who knew?

They should really stop. They're like the George Lucas of the music world.

Feu

Jeff_Lebowski wrote: »

Hey look guys - Weezer are still releasing records!

Who knew?

sarccy but accurate

calex71

3rd album in little under 2 years?

Someone needs to explain the quality or quantity concept to them.

I did actually enjoy very much some songs off raditude.

Loved the 1st 2 albums like others, but if I'm honest the day the green album came out it became my personal favorite. Everything after that didn't do much for me especially maldroit .... man I hate that record, I don't hate the ones after it but for maldroit I have a special place in the dark corner of my soul reserved for it. If I ever met rivers, I would punch him in the nose and say "thats for maladroit" then shake his hand and ask for a picture with him

pljudge321

I'm afraid you must be mistaken, Weezer broke up years ago.

*Puts fingers in ear and hums The Sweater Song*

Creamy Goodness

they broke up as soon as matt sharp left tbh, he was a terribly underrated influence on Rivers, and without him Rivers is completely "lost" :pac:.

JerryHandbag

I wont waste my money buying the Rattitude album so? Love the Blue album and Green album, some nice moments on Make Believe, Red album was a bit hit and miss.

krustydoyle

as a weezer and ryan adams fan im really looking forward to their collab..

jill_valentine

Rivers Cuomo or Billy Corgan - which one went more mental?

And perhaps just as importantly, WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYY!?!!?

MilanPan!c

jill_valentine wrote: »

Rivers Cuomo or Billy Corgan - which one went more mental?

And perhaps just as importantly, WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYY!?!!?

Number of good records-

Weezer: 1
Billy Corgan: 0

For the record they were BOTH always mental... Money let them act the way they always were, but without self-censoring.

Orando Broom

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Yeah they're two albums I'll return to a lot too. Blue Album is one of the few albums I've enjoyed from when I was very young through to this day - just brilliant fun. Pinkerton is a masterpiece, every so often a re-listen to it reminds me how good it is - perhaps a defining geek rock album! Things started to go downhill with the Green album (which is listenable to, if completely unremarkable) and have just continued on downhill since.

In case anyone hasn't heard it, and sorry for subjecting to it (possibly better ignored) but this is the true lowpoint of their recent output:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7nCt6vWOxQ

I'll see your Represent and raise you this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYvts-r1TVI

Feu

Orando Broom wrote: »

I'll see your Represent and raise you this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYvts-r1TVI

Holy Hurley that was horrific! I'm so glad i'm not subjected to wherever it is ye get your music!! Poor old Rivers, another case of good girl gone bad

hyperbaby

jill_valentine wrote: »

Rivers Cuomo or Billy Corgan - which one went more mental?

And perhaps just as importantly, WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYY!?!!?

Billy needs a slap!
the new songs are brutal, make the bad Billy stop!!

Den_M

MilanPan!c wrote: »

Number of good records-

Weezer: 1
Billy Corgan: 0

Couldn't disagree more with that. Pinkerton is Weezers masterpiece. The Blue album is amazing too.

Smashing Pumpkins have many great records - Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie are out of this world. Gish and Adore are great as well. Even their 1994 collection of B-Sides and outtakes called Pisces Iscariot wipes the floor with most stuff released then or now.

:mad:

MilanPan!c

Den_M wrote: »

Couldn't disagree more with that. Pinkerton is Weezers masterpiece. The Blue album is amazing too.

Smashing Pumpkins have many great records - Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie are out of this world. Gish and Adore are great as well. Even their 1994 collection of B-Sides and outtakes called Pisces Iscariot wipes the floor with most stuff released then or now.

:mad:

Yeah, gonna just have to disagree...

IMO The lyrics of pinkerton are a huge disgrace... just patheticly awful..

Pink Triangle? What is he 10?

Always hated the SP... think Corgan is basically just overproduced bad smaltzy pop... Does absolutely nothing for me...

jill_valentine

MilanPan!c wrote: »

think Corgan is basically just overproduced bad smaltzy pop...

He wasn't always though. Wasn't always.

johnny_ultimate

MilanPan!c wrote: »

IMO The lyrics of pinkerton are a huge disgrace... just patheticly awful..

Pink Triangle? What is he 10?

Always hated the SP... think Corgan is basically just overproduced bad smaltzy pop... Does absolutely nothing for me...

The lyrics of Pinkerton are almost meant to be pathetic. They're pretty much River's just being honest - and does it far more effectively than a contemporary emo crowd. It's adolescent by design - the simple, almost trivial concerns of a nerd. Granted, probably not for everyone, but I have always thoroughly enjoyed Pinkerton. Mostly, they're just fun songs - from Tired of Sex to Pink Triangle, there's simply a lot of good power pop on there. Not as iconically catchy as the Blue Album, but I still got back to it.

Smashing Pumpkins I loved when I was in my late teens, although Corgan continues to pump out what is now in my eyes drivel. I still love Mellon Collie (not every song, but enough of them) and Siamese Dream (which is sort of like Weezer - guitar heavy, catchy, angsty). Weezer and the Pumpkins probably were more resonant in my teens, but both of their early materials I still approach with enthusiasm. It's more they haven't grown up as I have!

MilanPan!c

jill_valentine wrote: »

He wasn't always though. Wasn't always.

We'll have to disagree...

Today is one of the most sadly crappy pop songs of the 1990s...

(IMO of course, as I expect to get flamed for that.)

MilanPan!c

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

The lyrics of Pinkerton are almost meant to be pathetic.

Well, then he suceeded, as they are pathetic, to an extreme.

Blus is honest, Pinkerton is contrived and ridiculous... Like I said, I was MASSIVELY into Weezer back then (I could tell you many, many stories); I bought Pinkerton at midnight on the day it came out... In fact I saw Weezer pre-Blue, back when all they had was a song on DGC rarities...

So, I'm not, or at least I wasn't a backlasher, or a hater, etc.

I just think all the honesty is gone... instead it's a hollow hollow facade of rubbish lyrics, silly production and forgettable writing.

I wish it weren't so...

Ah the memories... I saw the first time they ever played Susanne live, well, at a soundcheck... and then again live for the first time that night...

So, I'm neither a newbie or a hater, I've tried and tried, but hey... they suck and have for a LONG time now... oh well...

Feu

MilanPan!c wrote: »

(IMO of course, as I expect to get flamed for that.)

rightly so :rolleyes:

AAAAAAAHHH

MilanPan!c wrote: »

Pink Triangle? What is he 10?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_triangle

MilanPan!c

AAAAAAAHHH wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_triangle

It's the ridiculously obvious nature of the lyric that makes it so incredibly stupid.

Den_M

MilanPan!c wrote: »

We'll have to disagree...

Today is one of the most sadly crappy pop songs of the 1990s...

(IMO of course, as I expect to get flamed for that.)

You have no flipping idea what you're talking about, seriously.

Today was written when Billy was at his wits end, the worst he'd ever been. The lyrics are ironic. It doesn't even matter actually, if they are ironic or not, happily, because the melody and riff are genius. Billy is an egomaniac and and probably has many personality disorders but I don't fickin' care because (A. I'm ****ed up myself and B. He's written some unbelievable songs) and has connected with so many people in this silly little world of rock music that'd it'd make your empty head spin.

Also, if you don't or get or can't appreciate Pinkertion, that's unfortunate for you. But the rest of us do and recognise it as the genius that it is.

I honestly feel sorry for you.

Den_M

Double posting here but I don't care....

The songs from Pinkerton are such a departure from the Blue album it's incredible. Not only that, they're more complicated (far more chord progressions and time signature changes). But not just THAT, they're even more heart felt and sincere than the Blue album. Can't you see that?! Do you know how easy it would have been to follow up the Blue album with another record of 3 chord fuzz-tastic catchy numbers?? But they didn't do that, they went and made a pretty, introspective album that grows and grows upon each listen until eventually you're crying out into the night while listening to it, truly feeling the welled-up emotions and truly heartfelt intentions of each track??!

Den_M

MilanPan!c wrote: »

It's the ridiculously obvious nature of the lyric that makes it so incredibly stupid.

Triple post

So lyrics like 'My name is Wepeel...I got a box full of your toys....Fresh out of batteries....But they're still makin' noise' is what they should be writing??

For the record I love that song and have played it live many many times on stage, but bands change man, and we shouldn't hate them for it. That record was released in '94. I've loved Pinkerton, Green and Maladriot since then, it's only been in recent years (Red album, Raditude) that I've felt let down.

Creamy Goodness

not trying the start a argument here but how are the lyrics on pinkerton more pathetic than "i'm me, maybe, god damn, i am" ? they're pretty simple lyrics as well yet they work.

pinkerton is and always will be a master piece in my books both itself and blue get played at least once a week.

Howard the Duck

I don't like pinkerton much. My favourite weezer albums are the blue and green albums. There are always a few songs i like on their albums. I don't really get all the weezer bashing that goes on...reminds me of the way people go on about kings of leon...they are both ok bands that make some good songs.

Creamy Goodness

kings of leon shouldn't be mentioned in this thread, you should be punished :pac:

johnny_ultimate

Howard the Duck wrote: »

I don't like pinkerton much. My favourite weezer albums are the blue and green albums. There are always a few songs i like on their albums. I don't really get all the weezer bashing that goes on...reminds me of the way people go on about kings of leon...they are both ok bands that make some good songs.

Weezer's descent is a wee bit different, as they were a good band I was (and still to a degree am) a huge fan of, and who increasingly became more embarrassing with each passing album. It's like a friend you really get on with, only one day they disappear, and then you discover them on a back street with their pants down and singing about the old gray mare. I'd really like to see them do well, but everytime it's a disappointment.

Kings of Leon, on the other hand, have always had their pants down.

MilanPan!c

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

not trying the start a argument here but how are the lyrics on pinkerton more pathetic than "i'm me, maybe, god damn, i am" ? they're pretty simple lyrics as well yet they work.

pinkerton is and always will be a master piece in my books both itself and blue get played at least once a week.

Those are better lyrics yes, because they're unselfconscious... they just seem simple and natural and honest... nothing about Pinkerton seems honest to me... it all seems "cool"... and it seems like he was TRYING to act like a star... Blue just seems real.

MilanPan!c

Den_M wrote: »

Triple post

So lyrics like 'My name is Wepeel...I got a box full of your toys....Fresh out of batteries....But they're still makin' noise' is what they should be writing??

FWIW, those aren't stupid lyrics:

http://weezerpedia.com/wiki/index.php?title=My_Name_is_Jonas

meeney78

i personally thing its a brilliant album!!

_sparkie_

jill_valentine wrote: »

Rivers Cuomo or Billy Corgan - which one went more mental?

And perhaps just as importantly, WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYY!?!!?

at least billy had a high point to jump off. the pumpkins were amazing back in the day, they had their moments and now billy is just mad without any record label constraints.

personally i never really liked weezer, i always just thought their music was 'meh'.

Den_M

Sorry for ranting a bit in my posts yesterday. Reading them now, I come across as a bit of a knob.

MilanPan!c

Den_M wrote: »

Sorry for ranting a bit in my posts yesterday. Reading them now, I come across as a bit of a knob.

The internet makes us all into bastards, accidentally

I've long ago stopped thinking ill of people based on messages online...

smackbunnybaby

Weezer don't have a bad album.

Miguel_Sanchez

smackbunnybaby wrote: »

Weezer don't have a bad album.

It'd be nice if that was true but sadly it isn't.

MilanPan!c

smackbunnybaby wrote: »

Weezer don't have a bad album.

oooof.

--

Weezer - Make Believe

Rating: 0.4/10 (not a 4, but a 0.4)

If you're one of those poor souls who while away the day job by keeping a scorecard of music review sites, there's one thing you already know: There are two distinct groups of bad albums. The more prevalent kind is the fodder that fills a critic's mailbox, bands with awkward names and laser-printed cover art that don't inspire ire so much as pity. The second group is more treacherous: Bands that yield high expectations due to past achievements, yet, for one reason or another, wipe out like "The Wide World of Sports"' agony-of-defeat skier.

Often, these albums are bombarded with website tomatoes for reasons you can't necessarily hear through speakers: the band changes their sound and image to court a new crossover audience, perhaps, or attempts a mid-career shift into ill-advised territory. Or maybe they start writing songs about Moses in hip-hop slang. But sometimes the bad album in question is none of the above; it doesn't offend anyone's delicate scene-politics sensibilities or try to rewrite a once-successful formula in unfortunate ways. Sometimes an album is just awful. Make Believe is one of those albums.

Weezer have been given a lot of breaks in their second era-- both The Green Album and Maladroit were cut miles of slack despite consisting of little more than slightly above-average power-pop. The obvious reason for this lenience has to do with the mean age of rock critics, and the fact that most of these mid-20s scribes were at their absolute peak for bias-forming melodrama when The Blue Album and Pinkerton were released. Even for someone like me, who came late to the Weezer appreciation club, it was impossible to hear these "comeback" albums without the echoes of the earlier alt-rock pillars ringing in our ears.

But now there's an antidote to that nostalgic interference. Right from the start of Make Believe, when Weezer lurches into a flaccid take on Joan Jett's "I Love Rock N' Roll" with an unfathomably horrible speak/sing vocal from Rivers Cuomo (think "I like girls who wear Abercrombie & Fitch"), you can hear hundreds of critics mouthing "no no no" and going into crumpled shock. What's more disconcerting is that the song gets worse over the course of its three minutes (let's just say "Framptonesque voicebox solo" and get back to repressing the memory)-- and it's the album's first single.

Hearing a song like "We Are All on Drugs", which nicks the classic melody of the schoolyard "Diarrhea" song (you know, "when you're sliding into first..." and so on) for an anti-drug message stiffer than Nancy Reagan's "Diff'rent Strokes" cameo, it calls into question whether The Blue Album was really that great, or whether it just stood out as a rare beacon of guitar pop in a grunge-obsessed era. Trying to wrap your mind around the land-cliché-record lyrics of songs like "My Best Friend" and "Haunt You Every Day" leads me to wonder how Pinkerton could ever have seemed like such a cathartically resonant treatise on unrequited love. Was Rivers Cuomo always on the notebook-scrawl level of "I don't feel the joy/ I don't feel the pain," and did we not notice because scrawling in notebooks was the depth of our emotional knowledge at the time?

Okay, let's not be so hard on ourselves here: I'm pretty sure this is all Rivers' fault. Pinkerton triumphed by being an uncomfortably honest self-portrait of Cuomo. On Make Believe, his personality has vanished beneath layers of self-imposed universality, writing non-specific power ballads like he apprenticed with Diane Warren, and whoah-oh-ohing a whole lot in lieu of coming up with coherent or interesting thoughts. Coupled with his continued obsession with tired power chords and bland riff-rock (surprisingly not sonically boosted by producer Rick Rubin, whose post-"99 Problems" grip on relevance is now officially spent), the creative driving force behind the Weez is asleep at the wheel.

Considering Weezer supposedly went through hundreds of songs and several discarded albums to arrive at this final product, the laziness of this songwriting borders on the offensive. Whether recycling dynamics from the band's back catalog (see: "Perfect Situation") or taking the easy Mother Goose rhyme (see: every ****ing song here), these 12 tracks sound as if they were dashed off in an afternoon's work, maybe with Rubin holding the band at gunpoint. The one half-decent song on the record, "This Is Such a Pity", fails to even maintain its status as a pleasant Cars homage, interjecting a guitar solo that sounds like it was cut from the original score to Top Gun.

So does Make Believe completely ruin not just present-day Weezer, but retroactively, any enjoyment to be had from their earlier work? I don't know-- I'm too scared to re-listen to those first two albums-- but it certainly appears that Make Believe will expertly extract the last remaining good graces the critical community has to offer latter-day Weezer, unless my colleagues' memories of slow-dancing with Ashley to "Say It Ain't So" are more powerful than I can possibly imagine. Of course, if Ashley went on to break your heart, fellow critic, Make Believe might be just the medicine you need; put it on repeat and watch your emotional scar be obliterated as collateral damage in the torpedoing of Weezer's legacy.

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/8614-make-believe/

fillmore jive

MilanPan!c wrote: »

oooof.

--

Weezer - Make Believe

Rating: 0.4/10 (not a 4, but a 0.4)

If you're one of those poor souls who while away the day job by keeping a scorecard of music review sites, there's one thing you already know: There are two distinct groups of bad albums. The more prevalent kind is the fodder that fills a critic's mailbox, bands with awkward names and laser-printed cover art that don't inspire ire so much as pity. The second group is more treacherous: Bands that yield high expectations due to past achievements, yet, for one reason or another, wipe out like "The Wide World of Sports"' agony-of-defeat skier.

Often, these albums are bombarded with website tomatoes for reasons you can't necessarily hear through speakers: the band changes their sound and image to court a new crossover audience, perhaps, or attempts a mid-career shift into ill-advised territory. Or maybe they start writing songs about Moses in hip-hop slang. But sometimes the bad album in question is none of the above; it doesn't offend anyone's delicate scene-politics sensibilities or try to rewrite a once-successful formula in unfortunate ways. Sometimes an album is just awful. Make Believe is one of those albums.

Weezer have been given a lot of breaks in their second era-- both The Green Album and Maladroit were cut miles of slack despite consisting of little more than slightly above-average power-pop. The obvious reason for this lenience has to do with the mean age of rock critics, and the fact that most of these mid-20s scribes were at their absolute peak for bias-forming melodrama when The Blue Album and Pinkerton were released. Even for someone like me, who came late to the Weezer appreciation club, it was impossible to hear these "comeback" albums without the echoes of the earlier alt-rock pillars ringing in our ears.

But now there's an antidote to that nostalgic interference. Right from the start of Make Believe, when Weezer lurches into a flaccid take on Joan Jett's "I Love Rock N' Roll" with an unfathomably horrible speak/sing vocal from Rivers Cuomo (think "I like girls who wear Abercrombie & Fitch"), you can hear hundreds of critics mouthing "no no no" and going into crumpled shock. What's more disconcerting is that the song gets worse over the course of its three minutes (let's just say "Framptonesque voicebox solo" and get back to repressing the memory)-- and it's the album's first single.

Hearing a song like "We Are All on Drugs", which nicks the classic melody of the schoolyard "Diarrhea" song (you know, "when you're sliding into first..." and so on) for an anti-drug message stiffer than Nancy Reagan's "Diff'rent Strokes" cameo, it calls into question whether The Blue Album was really that great, or whether it just stood out as a rare beacon of guitar pop in a grunge-obsessed era. Trying to wrap your mind around the land-cliché-record lyrics of songs like "My Best Friend" and "Haunt You Every Day" leads me to wonder how Pinkerton could ever have seemed like such a cathartically resonant treatise on unrequited love. Was Rivers Cuomo always on the notebook-scrawl level of "I don't feel the joy/ I don't feel the pain," and did we not notice because scrawling in notebooks was the depth of our emotional knowledge at the time?

Okay, let's not be so hard on ourselves here: I'm pretty sure this is all Rivers' fault. Pinkerton triumphed by being an uncomfortably honest self-portrait of Cuomo. On Make Believe, his personality has vanished beneath layers of self-imposed universality, writing non-specific power ballads like he apprenticed with Diane Warren, and whoah-oh-ohing a whole lot in lieu of coming up with coherent or interesting thoughts. Coupled with his continued obsession with tired power chords and bland riff-rock (surprisingly not sonically boosted by producer Rick Rubin, whose post-"99 Problems" grip on relevance is now officially spent), the creative driving force behind the Weez is asleep at the wheel.

Considering Weezer supposedly went through hundreds of songs and several discarded albums to arrive at this final product, the laziness of this songwriting borders on the offensive. Whether recycling dynamics from the band's back catalog (see: "Perfect Situation") or taking the easy Mother Goose rhyme (see: every ****ing song here), these 12 tracks sound as if they were dashed off in an afternoon's work, maybe with Rubin holding the band at gunpoint. The one half-decent song on the record, "This Is Such a Pity", fails to even maintain its status as a pleasant Cars homage, interjecting a guitar solo that sounds like it was cut from the original score to Top Gun.

So does Make Believe completely ruin not just present-day Weezer, but retroactively, any enjoyment to be had from their earlier work? I don't know-- I'm too scared to re-listen to those first two albums-- but it certainly appears that Make Believe will expertly extract the last remaining good graces the critical community has to offer latter-day Weezer, unless my colleagues' memories of slow-dancing with Ashley to "Say It Ain't So" are more powerful than I can possibly imagine. Of course, if Ashley went on to break your heart, fellow critic, Make Believe might be just the medicine you need; put it on repeat and watch your emotional scar be obliterated as collateral damage in the torpedoing of Weezer's legacy.

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/8614-make-believe/

Pitchfork media is as pretentious as it gets. Typical overreaction from them. Check out the other reviews for that album. (btw im not defending weezer i havent heard this album).

MilanPan!c

fillmore jive wrote: »

Pitchfork media is as pretentious as it gets. Typical overreaction from them. Check out the other reviews for that album. (btw im not defending weezer i havent heard this album).

a few folks liked it, but it also got a HUGE number of horrible review... as it's a piece of ****.

me-skywalker

Dunno how or why Billy Corgan is getting the grief here, the man is/was a pure genius. Granted he might be off the head but he has genuine talent that has produced 2 of the best albums of all time!

Weezer I have to say are a guilty pleasure and Memories sounds pretty good after 1 listen, ill definitely be interested in the new album and cant wait.

I couldn't be more disappointed that ones of my favourite bands has gone and done this. In the unveiling picture for the album, even Hurley looked embarrassed for them.

me-skywalker

Deleted User wrote: »

I couldn't be more disappointed that ones of my favourite bands has gone and done this. In the unveiling picture for the album, even Hurley looked embarrassed for them.

Have gone and done what? What is it your not happy with? The song, the album cover or the name of the album?

_sparkie_

me-skywalker wrote: »

Have gone and done what? What is it your not happy with? The song, the album cover or the name of the album?

all of it

Pat D. Almighty

I quite like the new song. But that's usually been the case with the last couple of albums. Radditude had 'Pork & Beans' which was a great first single, but the album was pretty ****. The Red Album had 'If Your Wondering...' which was just a great piece of 60s pop-soul magic.
As for Rivers, yeh, he's as mad as a bag of willies