Pregnant widow flogged and shot dead by the Taleban

Biggins

The Times News Story.
Pregnant widow flogged and shot dead by the Taleban

Three Taleban mullahs condemned a pregnant widow to be flogged and shot in public, in a remote part of western Afghanistan on Sunday, after convicting her of having an affair.

Mullah Daoud, a senior Taleban commander contacted by this newspaper, said that he had sat on the panel of three judges which reached the decision, in an area of Badghis province firmly under militant control.

“There were three mullahs that passed this verdict. I was one of them,” he said. “We gave this decision so that in future no one should have these illegal affairs. We whipped her in front of all the local people, to show them an example. Then we shot her.”

Afghan police said that the woman’s body was later dumped in an area under government control. “She was shot in the head in public while she was still pregnant,” Ghulam Mohammad Sayeedi, the deputy police chief in Badghis, said.

Mullah Daoud said that elders in Quds district had approached the insurgents when the woman became pregnant, many years after her husband had died. Police named her as Bibi Sanubar. Reports of her age ranged from 35 to 45.

“She had an illegal relationship with a man who was not her husband,” Mullah Daoud said. “Her husband died many years before. Then she became pregnant. So, according to Islam, we gave her a very strong punishment. It was more than 200 lashes. Then we shot her.”

The full story: http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/83/wwwthetimescoukttonewsw.jpg

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When it comes to treating women badly, these scumbags really take the biscuit and don't deserve to live on this planet.
I don't give a rats ass if thats politically right or wrong.
The sooner these nut jobs are gone, the better!

Nodin

You won't hear me arguing with ye.

Kasabian

I wonder if it's true..

admiralofthefleet

Islam - religion of peace

Kasabian

Overheal wrote: »

So would you kindly stow it and quit your double-standardesque whining about the Afghan and Iraq wars?

Seriously now.

Stop putting Iraq and Afghanistan in the same bracket.

One was driven by oil and finishing Daddy's work.

Edit : Where did you go I am sure you where here a minute ago. You Ninja you

Nodin

Kasabian wrote: »

I wonder if it's true..

What, me arguing or the Taleban thing....?

AckwelFoley

So, according to Islam, we gave her a very strong punishment. It was more than 200 lashes. Then we shot her.”

Wonder what severe punishment would be?

Listening to Jedward dubbed over gay porn?

Biggins

Overheal wrote: »

So would you kindly stow it and quit your double-standardesque whining about the Afghan and Iraq wars?

Seriously now.

Sorry but some here including me have an interest in current affairs.
Just because sometimes the subject matter is not to ones liking, don't mean others have to be censured!
If one don't like a thread topic, then please don't enter it.

Sometimes I'd rather things like this be talked about than what is found on a toilet wall.

Edited to reflect my words were too maybe harsh and no insult to Overheal.

Kasabian

Nodin wrote: »

What, me arguing or the Taleban thing....?

No just me having a moment of reflection

Giselle

“She had an illegal relationship with a man who was not her husband,” Mullah Daoud said. “Her husband died many years before. Then she became pregnant. So, according to Islam, we gave her a very strong punishment. It was more than 200 lashes. Then we shot her.”

Nobody loves women quite like Allah loves women.

Nobody sane anyway.

Overheal

Biggins wrote: »

Sorry but some here including me have an interest in current affairs.
Just because sometimes the subject matter is not to your liking, don't mean others have to be censured!

You know YOU don't only get to pick and choose topics.

If you don't like a thread topic, then don't enter it.
Its that simple!

Uhm, where did I say I was trying to make or break the topic?

Just pointing out a hypocrisy, "Whaaaaaaaa remove the Taliban by any means." "Waaaaaaa America out of the Middle East"

I have no problem with your topic. I have a problem with the double standards displayed over time and in depending on what suits you. I suppose you'd also like us to remove the Government of Iran and save all those stoned girls who've been raped but **** me if we did that you'd only bitch that we Invaded them wouldnt you just.

Ricardo G

Horrible story but why the hell would you whip someone.......and then shoot them? strange

Giselle

Ricardo G wrote: »

Horrible story but why the hell would you whip someone.......and then shoot them? strange

For twisted fun, entertainment, and to exert control through terror.

And because you hate women.

Cheap Thrills!

Sickening and the poor baby would have died slowly too :mad::(

steddyeddy

apes treat their females better than this and thats all i can say about it.

galwayrush

Not surprised.

round tower huntsman

pregnant out of wed-lock:eek: they should have sent her to a nuns laundry for a lifetimes hard labour.

MagicMarker

Biggins wrote: »

Pregnant widow flogged and shot dead by the Taleban

The full story: http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/83/wwwthetimescoukttonewsw.jpg

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When it comes to treating women badly, these scumbags really take the biscuit and don't deserve to live on this planet.
I don't give a rats ass if thats politically right or wrong.
The sooner these nut jobs are gone, the better!

How do you get the whole page into a screenshot?

Nodin

Overheal wrote: »

Uhm, where did I say I was trying to make or break the topic?

Just pointing out a hypocrisy, "Whaaaaaaaa remove the Taliban by any means." "Waaaaaaa America out of the Middle East"

Afghanistan is, in theory, a UN sponsored mission, quite justified by not only attacks on the US, but problems extending into India, Iran and as far as some of the former soviet republics. It's become almost entirely a US one, because some people (now retired) took their eye off the ball and squandered the goodwill that was there.

Iraq was - in fact - an illegal war, ill-considered, and without planning for the aftermath, conducted for a number of reasons, none of which really having to much to do with the Iraqi people, or anyone else for that matter. Thusly oppossing the latter while supporting elements of the former is not at all hypocritical.

(unless of course he's form on the subject I'm unaware of, in which case shoot away...)

Biggins

Overheal wrote: »

Uhm, where did I say I was trying to make or break the topic?

Just pointing out a hypocrisy, "Whaaaaaaaa remove the Taliban by any means." "Waaaaaaa America out of the Middle East"

I have no problem with your topic. I have a problem with the double standards displayed over time and in depending on what suits you. I suppose you'd also like us to remove the Government of Iran and save all those stoned girls who've been raped but **** me if we did that you'd only bitch that we Invaded them wouldnt you just.

1. I never said "Waaaaaaa America out of the Middle East" or anything close to it.
2. I have pointed out however when things could have been done better, be that by the Americans, the Pakistans and they giving intelligence to the Taliban or when innocent civilians are caught in the unfortunate crossfire.

I make no apologies for doing the above.

For the record, I am glad the ground troops are there doing the job of ridding the country of the present surge.
That must be done however under the watchful eye of proper leadership and with as less civilian casualties as possible.

"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" thats all.

steddyeddy

round tower huntsman wrote: »

pregnant out of wed-lock:eek: they should have sent her to a nuns laundry for a lifetimes hard labour.

I agree man people often forget what was done in this country.

round tower huntsman

the usa backed government still has the death penelty for women that commit adultry afaik. they not much better then the taliban when it come to human rights but at least they'll allow mcdonalds !oops i mean democracy

Mrmoe

I would like to sit down with some of these guys and get them to explain their logic/views/reasoning behind this. In all of the news stories that I read like this one , not one of the attackers give the reasoning/sources behind such an action. I think they use Islam as a cover to carry out such atrocities.

Kasabian

Heavy fcuking thread before bed,

/ leaves

fcuk the Taliban blow them all back to hell where they came from.

Biggins

MagicMarker wrote: »

How do you get the whole page into a screenshot?

I use a Firefox addon called Fireshot.
Here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5648/

Kasabian

Cheap Thrills! wrote: »

Sickening and the poor baby would have died slowly too :mad::(

Bless you for thinking of the baby

Kasabian

I often wonder are we just pawns to the western propoganda

Overheal

round tower huntsman wrote: »

the usa backed government still has the death penelty for women that commit adultry afaik. they not much better then the taliban when it come to human rights but at least they'll allow mcdonalds !oops i mean democracy

Can't stroll in, raze the place, hang around for 10 years, and then reformat centuries of Islamic tradition.

Giselle

Mrmoe wrote: »

I would like to sit down with some of these guys and get them to explain their logic/views/reasoning behind this. In all of the news stories that I read like this one , not one of the attackers give the reasoning/sources behind such an action. I think they use Islam as a cover to carry out such atrocities.

They will tell you that the Qu'ran is the UNALTERABLE word of god, and in it god specifies the punishment for sex outside of marraige. So they are upholding gods will. Because god had guns.

Islam isn't used as a cover for sadism by these guys, its used as justification.

Stinicker

*pinko liberal libtard alert* Who are we to judge them, Islam is a peaceful religion, and we should respect whatever they want and this is their culture and we should allow them to do this in our countries also. Christianity is just as bad, America has no place in Afghanistan etc. *braindead libtard rant over*

Seriously though I think that something badly needs to be done against Islam sooner than later and the way they treat their women is disgraceful. Nuclear Weapons were created to make the world peaceful and a few nukes flung into Tehran and Mecca would solve alot of the worlds problems. The world needs to learn that Islam should not be tolerated and we need to force our peaceful Judeo Christian values on them and make the comply with democracy and freedom for all.

Ush1

It's absolutely shocking and despicable but just something to think about. Are the US so much better as they still legally kill people with the death penalty? Obviously it's more humane the way they do it, but it's still the state killing someone.

Maybe I should start a thread on this seperately?

we'llallhavetea_old

i feel physically sick after reading the op.

how the fcuk can anyone do that to another human being? if you did less than that to a dog you'd be locked up.

Sea Sharp

Absolutely disgusting. Was there any mention of what happened to the daddy?

bronte

2010 people...how proud we should be . :mad:

Nodin

round tower huntsman wrote: »

the usa backed government still has the death penelty for women that commit adultry afaik. they not much better then the taliban when it come to human rights but at least they'll allow mcdonalds !oops i mean democracy

Well generally speaking, states don't give a rats ass about "human rights" in so much as starting a war over it. Its almost a given you can do much as you want within your own borders as long as you don't screw with anyone else. The exception to that is supposedly genocide, but even there you wouldn't want to hold your breath.

Getting down to womens rights, its as old as war to use the treatment of women as an example of the rightness of the cause and the low nature of the enemy. Unfortunately there seems to exist the notion that they're serious. What will make the various parties happy is a state that promises to stop its territory being used as a base or haven for elements that will attack their interests. If that state whips and shoots pregnant women, you'll find they'll live with it.

Fratton Fred

Sea Sharp wrote: »

Absolutely disgusting. Was there any mention of what happened to the daddy?

they gave him a slap on the back and took him down the pub to celebrate getting his leg over.

Giselle

we'llallhavetea wrote: »

how the fcuk can anyone do that to another human being? if you did less than that to a dog you'd be locked up.

Two human beings. There was a little baby killed too.:(

Ricardo G

Giselle wrote: »

They will tell you that the Qu'ran is the UNALTERABLE word of god, and in it god specifies the punishment for sex outside of marraige. So they are upholding gods will. Because god had guns.

Islam isn't used as a cover for sadism by these guys, its used as justification.

I'm sure God does'nt specify 200 lashes of a whip and a bullet in the Skull, and i would also be certain he would not condone the killing of an unborn child. If so he is sicker than the bastards that carried out this

K.Flyer

Ricardo G wrote: »

Horrible story but why the hell would you whip someone.......and then shoot them? strange

Afghanistan - Taliban - Islam - Sharia Law !!

And the followers of Islam living in Ireland / UK and other countries want to be allowed to impose Sharia Law as they see fit.

round tower huntsman

got away with a warning:eek: now thats just wrong,sexist. should've killed both of them equal rights etc...

Stinicker

Ush1 wrote: »

It's absolutely shocking and despicable but just something to think about. Are the US so much better as they still legally kill people with the death penalty? Obviously it's more humane the way they do it, but it's still the state killing someone.

Maybe I should start a thread on this seperately?

At least the US delivers justice for real crimes, what that woman did was not a crime and whatever happens between two consenting adults is nobodys business, especially not the state or any religious group. I would love to see those three "mullahs" getting executed for crimes against humanity, and would gladly be the executioner to pull the trigger and pop a bullet into each of their skulls.

we'llallhavetea_old

Giselle wrote: »

Two human beings. There was a little baby killed too.:(

Donkey Oaty

Ush1 wrote: »

It's absolutely shocking and despicable but just something to think about. Are the US so much better as they still legally kill people with the death penalty? Obviously it's more humane the way they do it, but it's still the state killing someone.

Maybe I should start a thread on this seperately?

Two things.

1) This story isn't about the state killing anyone. Afghanistan's government does not have the death penalty for adultery - it's 7-15 years in prison.

2) The US government does not execute adulterers either, and the people they do kill have a trial by jury.

The Taliban are bad guys.

Ush1

Stinicker wrote: »

At least the US delivers justice for real crimes, what that woman did was not a crime and whatever happens between two consenting adults is nobodys business, especially not the state or any religious group. I would love to see those three "mullahs" getting executed for crimes against humanity, and would gladly be the executioner to pull the trigger and pop a bullet into each of their skulls.

Define the US delivering justice though? Killing someone?

Kasabian

round tower huntsman wrote: »

got away with a warning:eek: now thats just wrong,sexist. should've killed both of them equal rights etc...

Or maybe killed none of them :eek:

Biggins

Ush1 wrote: »

It's absolutely shocking and despicable but just something to think about. Are the US so much better as they still legally kill people with the death penalty? Obviously it's more humane the way they do it, but it's still the state killing someone.

Maybe I should start a thread on this separately?

Yes, I'd appreciate it.
This is about yet another sad un-necessary death. Be it caused by one side or another.
These things should be exposed so that others can say "Not in our name please!"
Thats all, no hidden agenda.

i dont think your can say all muslims would react in this way these men represent the most hardcore element of Islam .The Catholic bible has some sadistic passages of retribution , as far as i know they are not carried out . That being said this is barbarism against woman shouldnt be ignored or tolerated .

I hope her child and herself are in a better place:(

Ush1

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

Two things.

1) This story isn't about the state killing anyone. Afghanistan's government does not have the death penalty for adultery - it's 7-15 years in prison.

2) The US government does not execute adulterers either, and the people they do kill have a trial by jury.

The Taliban are bad guys.

So the US are the good guys then, despite them killing people for certain things?

round tower huntsman

actually the usa illeagaly kill people as well- iraq illeal war.

Giselle

Ricardo G wrote: »

I'm sure God does'nt specify 200 lashes of a whip and a bullet in the Skull, and i would also be certain he would not condone the killing of an unborn child. If so he is sicker than the bastards that carried out this

I think you may have missed the irony.

The Qu'ran is the only education a lot of these guys have. The only book they ever read, the only law they ever know. They have/choose to use an interpretation of that book that suits their purpose. To control and rule the population. The Qu'ran is particularly harsh on women.

She may have been raped, but in the absence of reliable, multiple, male witnesses, its assumed she was a very bad girl. She may have flashed her hair, or a wrist and driven some vulnerable man into a fit of lust. Or begged for it, and knowingly taken a man from the path of righteousness. Maybe she failed to prevent someone from looking in her window and he saw her face.

Hard to know who the victim is in those circumstances.:rolleyes:

Andy-Pandy

I blame men with full beards. The Taliban, Santa and ZZ Top, all the same to me.