Cherry Blossom closed by the FSAI.

loyatemu · 09-08-2010 9:19pm #1

Greystones oldest Chinese restaurant closed by the Food Safety Authority:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0809/breaking30.html

Ciaranpm · 09-08-2010 10:16pm

Is that the one beside Hot Spot?

mikedragon32 · 09-08-2010 10:18pm

Stopped getting food from there after CL One opened. Massive gulf in quality. Last time we did get food there the portions were tiny. Madness at a time when folks are demanding better value for money. Clearly portion control isn't the only place where corners were cut.

mikedragon32 · 09-08-2010 10:20pm

Ciaranpm wrote: »

Is that the one beside Hot Spot?

Yes

danjo · 09-08-2010 10:20pm

Ciaranpm wrote: »

Is that the one beside Hot Spot?

I think it is beside the dry cleaners.

Ciaranpm · 09-08-2010 10:25pm

Have walked past it every day en route to the Dart and heard birds/pidgeons in the shutters outside......

The Real B-man · 09-08-2010 11:09pm

loyatemu wrote: »

Greystones oldest Chinese restaurant closed by the Food Safety Authority:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0809/breaking30.html

Not Surprised its been going down Hill since they got new Owners used to be great. Chinese in Kilcoole is good.

loyatemu · 09-08-2010 11:12pm

I've had takeaways from there loads of times (and survived) but by choice I generally go for the Royal Park. For a long time it was Greystones only Chinese - I think its been around since the early 80s.

Rasmus · 10-08-2010 7:47am

I think they are planning to reopen, from what I understood from the sign. Possibly they have to succeed in meeting regulations, and changing the kitchen setup. Although nesting pigeons could be omenous.

Joliegood · 10-08-2010 8:14am

loyatemu wrote: »

I've had takeaways from there loads of times (and survived) but by choice I generally go for the Royal Park. For a long time it was Greystones only Chinese - I think its been around since the early 80s.

Correct. The old Cherry Blossom Special was a life saver after a rake of pints in the stables :rolleyes:

Dr.Silly · 10-08-2010 8:55am

it's about time, was by far the worst take away in greystones.

danjo · 10-08-2010 10:17am

Dr.Silly wrote: »

it's about time, was by far the worst take away in greystones.

On the positive side, when it re-opens it will probably be the best. I expect it will be regularly scrutinised by the FSAI and the owners will be anxious to restore their business.

Dr.Silly · 10-08-2010 10:22am

danjo wrote: »

On the positive side, when it re-opens it will probably be the best. I expect it will be regularly scrutinised by the FSAI and the owners will be anxious to restore their business.

I seriously doubt it, would you back to a place that's been closed down by a food safety authority, I know I wouldn't !

ciaran67 · 10-08-2010 10:25am

danjo wrote: »

On the positive side, when it re-opens it will probably be the best. I expect it will be regularly scrutinised by the FSAI and the owners will be anxious to restore their business.

I dont feel they deserve our custom when they've been obviously not worrying about our health.

Rasmus · 10-08-2010 10:31am

There is a bunch of places all over the place that get closed down for a few days, rectify the problem, and get the licence to reopen. We don't usually get to find out which places they are, as it's usually under the guise of 'renovations'. They did do a name and shame in the mentioned article though...

loyatemu · 10-08-2010 1:17pm

Rasmus wrote: »

There is a bunch of places all over the place that get closed down for a few days, rectify the problem, and get the licence to reopen. We don't usually get to find out which places they are, as it's usually under the guise of 'renovations'. They did do a name and shame in the mentioned article though...

you can see enforced closures here, though it doesn't give the specifics of why a premises has been ordered to close.

jaffa20 · 10-08-2010 7:26pm

The Real B-man wrote: »

Not Surprised its been going down Hill since they got new Owners used to be great. Chinese in Kilcoole is good.

Whereabouts is that?

The Real B-man · 10-08-2010 9:27pm

jaffa20 wrote: »

Whereabouts is that?

Beside The Butchers down the Bottom of the Village

Blandpebbles · 12-08-2010 12:49am

It wasn't closed down to issues with the food but a potential for issues.

Also the best Chinese in Greystones, eaten there loads of times over the year. Loads of food and free calendars at Christmas.

The Royal Park is the biggest ripoff in Ireland, tiny boxes of food and the couple who run it!! Last year we went for Chinese New Year and they put a 15% service charge on the bill.

When I queried the service charge they told me it was because their staff had to work on a holiday!!! Gung Hei F Off next year

Cherry Blossom will be back in full swing very soon.

darter · 12-08-2010 5:31am

Blandpebbles wrote: »

It wasn't closed down to issues with the food but a potential for issues.

What???

Every restaurant has a "potential for issues" if not kept clean and hygienic. I'm actually surprised that so few restaurants/food outlets are closed. There has to be a serious risk of infection for a closure notice to be slapped on a place.

If you know something we don't as to why the Cherry Blossom was closed, then tell us....

When/if it re-opens, you'll certainly get fast service, as you'll be their only customer - apart from people who live on Cloud 9 and aren't clued in to daily life...

Blandpebbles · 12-08-2010 6:48am

Clues in? So you wouldn't eat at fully cleared place only one that hasn't been caught. Makes sense.... In reverso land

ciaran67 · 12-08-2010 6:57am

Blandpebbles wrote: »

Clues in? So you wouldn't eat at fully cleared place only one that hasn't been caught. Makes sense.... In reverso land

Obviously apart from the taste, the most important aspect of running a restaurant is cleanliness and hygiene. I wouldnt set food in a place that has been closed down and reopened by the same owners. It speaks volumes about them.

loyatemu · 12-08-2010 8:32am

Blandpebbles wrote: »

Clues in? So you wouldn't eat at fully cleared place only one that hasn't been caught.

all restaurants get inspected - the others haven't been closed down because they passed the inspections. Your logic has more holes in it than a packet of polos.

darter · 12-08-2010 12:07pm

There seems to be a correlation between having eaten at the Cherry Blossom "loads of times over the year" and complete lack of logic..

Oh wait! That's why it was closed! The inspectors found a concentration of illogical people in Greystones, and were able to identify the food from the Cherry Blossom as the source of the infection... :eek:

bogtreader · 12-08-2010 7:40pm

I know i could be speculating but dont the FSAI inspect then give
A list of what is to be fixed.Closure is a last resort.We have had visits from health and safety tell you what needs to be fixed you fix it its all good no closure

danjo · 12-08-2010 7:57pm

bogtreader wrote: »

I know i could be speculating but dont the FSAI inspect then give
A list of what is to be fixed.Closure is a last resort.We have had visits from health and safety tell you what needs to be fixed you fix it its all good no closure

I expect it would depend on the gravity of the non-compliance with the standard required.

Lil' Smiler · 12-08-2010 10:44pm

I passed it last night and tonight. It's still open!

jellybaby21 · 12-08-2010 11:37pm

See on the website the closure has been lifted and it can remain open?

darter · 13-08-2010 4:21am

http://www.fsai.ie/enforcement/order/enf_detail.asp?ItemID=5380

Enforcement Type Closure Order
Issuing Agency HSE - Dublin Mid Leinster
Legislation FSAI Act 1998
Date Served 28/07/2010
Date Lifted 08/08/2010
Order Extent All
Served On Mr Raymond Chung, Proprietor
Premises Address Cherry Blossom Take Away & Restaurant
Unit 4, Watson & Johnson Centre
Church Road
Greystones
Wicklow
Business Category Service Sector
Business Type Restaurant/Canteen

No indication of why the Closure Order was issued, and why it was lifted. Perhaps someone who frequents the place can ask Mr. Raymond Chung just what the problem was...

heavyballs · 13-08-2010 5:13am

The Real B-man wrote: »

Not Surprised its been going down Hill since they got new Owners used to be great. Chinese in Kilcoole is good.

you must be joking:eek:it's muck apart from the curried chips,the only takeaway of any sort that i use having tried them all is Indian Spice(think that's tha name)near xtra vision,it's the freshest,tastiest food by a long shot and i actually prefere to eat chinese,pity they wouldn't open a Lets eat in takeaway,the one in Shankill is top notch

loobylou · 13-08-2010 12:27pm

heavyballs wrote: »

you must be joking:eek:it's muck

Agree

chalky_ie · 13-08-2010 8:33pm

Lams takeaway is by far the best takeaway in greystones

gflood · 14-08-2010 4:14pm

A premisies can be closed for many reasons, Nothing to do with food safety. For example the kitchen coud be too small. While they manage food hygiene well it may not conform to HACCP, I was working in a place once where we didnt display our HACCP sheets and they threatened to close it. And its true that you should go to a premise after reopening as you can be sure it meets the standards (unlike others who have not be spot checked). Also with regard to CB I think the food there has imporved very much recently (I believe some chefs were replaced).

darter · 14-08-2010 6:47pm

gflood wrote: »

A premisies can be closed for many reasons, Nothing to do with food safety. For example the kitchen coud be too small. While they manage food hygiene well it may not conform to HACCP, I was working in a place once where we didnt display our HACCP sheets and they threatened to close it. And its true that you should go to a premise after reopening as you can be sure it meets the standards (unlike others who have not be spot checked). Also with regard to CB I think the food there has imporved very much recently (I believe some chefs were replaced).

Guesswork and conjecture is leading us nowhere. Given that the majority of reasons for issuing a Closure Order are to do with Food Hygiene, the safe, prudent and logical choice is to avoid this outlet, regardless of the quality of the kitchen staff, until such time as the owner comes clean about why he received the Closure Order and what he did in response.

Perhaps those of you who are brave enough can ask him next time you order from there - as in both brave enough to eat the food and also brave enough to ask.

dr ro · 14-08-2010 7:51pm

nobody's mentioned asian scent. We've eaten from there many times and never any complaints. Didn't like kilcoole or one although only tried them once. Bad first impressions. Indian spice is a regular too, a bit annoying there though cause their recession buster, cheaper prices is actually just smaller portions! A bit cheeky.

Cryos · 15-08-2010 1:05am

loobylou wrote: »

Agree

And if memory services its been closed a few times over the past few years (not sure if its health and safety related or not) and has reappeared under different names.....

dubsgirl · 15-08-2010 8:44am

dr ro wrote: »

nobody's mentioned asian scent. We've eaten from there many times and never any complaints. Didn't like kilcoole or one although only tried them once. Bad first impressions. Indian spice is a regular too, a bit annoying there though cause their recession buster, cheaper prices is actually just smaller portions! A bit cheeky.

I agree! And actually the clampdown specials are getting smaller all the time:mad:

ciaran67 · 15-08-2010 9:03am

dubsgirl wrote: »

I agree! And actually the clampdown specials are getting smaller all the time:mad:

After being back in UK and paying 15 quid for a curry it is annoying to pay twice as much. Having said that it is very good. Just wish they'd cook their spuds a bit longer!

Shoelaces · 16-08-2010 11:55am

conor-w wrote: »

Lams takeaway is by far the best takeaway in greystones

Completely and utterly agree

The Real B-man · 16-08-2010 1:21pm

Cryos wrote: »

And if memory services its been closed a few times over the past few years (not sure if its health and safety related or not) and has reappeared under different names.....

I think its just been a change of ownership through out the years it used to be a Chipper Teasys takeaway back in the day

Merrilady · 16-08-2010 2:23pm

Shoelaces wrote: »

Completely and utterly agree

Me too

Cryos · 16-08-2010 3:06pm

The Real B-man wrote: »

I think its just been a change of ownership through out the years it used to be a Chipper Teasys takeaway back in the day

Good stuff

I still wouldnt be stumbling from byrnes or lee's for it :P

Blandpebbles · 16-08-2010 9:34pm

Asian scent?? You mean the home of processed ham and uncle bens noodles.

Had food from the cherry blossom on Saturday. Lovely.

irlirishkev · 16-08-2010 10:06pm

Jesus I love the food from the Cherry Blossom. Grew up getting take out from there. Shocked when I heard it had to close, but sod it, I never got sick from eating their food and I was never disapointed.

I did notice the portions had gotten slightly smaller recently though..

Mitch Connor · 18-08-2010 7:58am

irlirishkev wrote: »

Jesus I love the food from the Cherry Blossom. Grew up getting take out from there. Shocked when I heard it had to close, but sod it, I never got sick from eating their food and I was never disapointed.

I did notice the portions had gotten slightly smaller recently though..

They were not closed because of people getting sick or something like that. the FSAI decided that their kitchen was too small - so the place was closed while the kitchen was enlarged. That is all that has changed.

loyatemu · 18-08-2010 8:44am

Mitch Connor wrote: »

They were not closed because of people getting sick or something like that. the FSAI decided that their kitchen was too small - so the place was closed while the kitchen was enlarged. That is all that has changed.

you got a source for that Mitch?

Macy0161 · 23-08-2010 10:42am

Why would the FSAI close a kitchen because of the size?

thecommander · 23-08-2010 3:55pm

Macy0161 wrote: »

Why would the FSAI close a kitchen because of the size?

They wouldn't.

Conan The Contrarian · 02-09-2010 9:44am

Mitch is correct about the reason for the closure. It had NOTHING to do with food hygiene or customer safety, and everything to do with a potential health & safety risk to his kitchen staff. I spoke with the owner, Ray Chung, last week and he confirmed that it was because the authorities felt there was a potential H&S issue for his chefs over the size of their workspace. Basically, the old kitchen was considered to be too small if things got really busy and you had 3 or 4 chefs working in there simultaneously, potentially bumping into each other with pots of boiling water, oil, etc. A couple of months back, he was asked to extend the kitchen accordingly, but never got round to it. Big mistake, for which he is now paying the price. When the inspectors came by again and saw the changes hadn't been implemented, they closed him down. That place has been going for about 25 years, first under his father and now under Ray, and had built up a great reputation in Greystones and beyond for quality food at good prices. It would be a real pity if it were to lose all its business now because of some ill-founded, ill-informed and ignorant rumours about the reason for the closure.

Blandpebbles · 02-09-2010 9:48am

Conan, Well put!! Exactly what I was trying to say but wasn't at liberty to divulge.

The Cherry Blossom is an institution in Greystones... long may it continue

loyatemu · 02-09-2010 1:11pm

Conan The Contrarian wrote: »

It would be a real pity if it were to lose all its business now because of some ill-founded, ill-informed and ignorant rumours about the reason for the closure.

well, if the FSAI don't put the specific reason on their website then there is bound to be speculation and people will assume the worst (after all their primary role is assuring "Food Safety") - he should have been aware of the how the system operates and paid more attention to the initial warning.

I'd imagine he's lost a fair bit of business - perhaps he should distribute a few flyers with an explanation and discount vouchers to get people back?

Cherry Blossom closed by the FSAI.

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