Anti American Rhetoric, why?

bobblepuzzle

There's a lot of anti-american sentiment in AH... was just wondering why?

Because they went into Iraq to remove a prick, is that it??

Don't forget the amount of good the US has done for Ireland... whether it be investment or help in the North...

Seems to me anti-americanism is fashionable in Ireland these days, but the arguments put forward are clueless at best and just downright stupid at worst (yes there are stupid Americans, but there are also stupid Irish) They've done a lot more for the world than we have, so fo with your s****

steve french

erm its ah. you shouldnt take anything too seriously here at all.

El Weirdo

Cmdr Keen wrote: »

...they went into Iraq to remove a prick...

Believe that if you really want.

ejmaztec

Cmdr Keen wrote: »

There's a lot of anti-american sentiment in AH... was just wondering why?

Because they went into Iraq to remove a prick, is that it??

Don't forget the amount of good the US has done for Ireland... whether it be investment or help in the North...

Seems to me anti-americanism is fashionable in Ireland these days, but the arguments put forward are clueless at best and just downright stupid at worst (yes there are stupid Americans, but there are also stupid Irish) They've done a lot more for the world than we have, so fo with your s****

It was only fashionable when George W was in power, but after Saint Obama took over, everything's sweetness and light.

bobblepuzzle

steve french wrote: »

erm its ah. you shouldnt take anything too seriously here at all.

Just making a point that needs to be made... they've done so much for us, and this is how we return the favour

The_Minister

They are loud, annoying and think that they are great...






....now that the French are out of the way, let's start into America...

bobblepuzzle

The_Minister wrote: »

They are loud, annoying and think that they are great...






....now that the French are out of the way, let's start into America...

You see, more stupidity... from an IRISH PERSON!

ejmaztec

Cmdr Keen wrote: »

Just making a point that needs to be made... they've done so much for us, and this is how we return the favour

What have they done for us then?

Cmdr Keen

Cmdr Keen wrote: »

Because they went into Iraq to remove a prick, is that it??]

That one statement speaks volumes.. You think America gives a fuk about anyone in the middle east? They care about what's under their feet, not above them.

Cop the fuk on and learn about the world instead of postin tripe on here.

starbelgrade

It's not so much anti-Americanism, as anti-American-foreign-policy-ism.

ElaElaElano

Cmdr Keen wrote: »

There's a lot of anti-american sentiment in AH... was just wondering why?

Because they went into Iraq to remove a prick, is that it??

Don't forget the amount of good the US has done for Ireland... whether it be investment or help in the North...

Seems to me anti-americanism is fashionable in Ireland these days, but the arguments put forward are clueless at best and just downright stupid at worst (yes there are stupid Americans, but there are also stupid Irish) They've done a lot more for the world than we have, so fo with your s****

They went to Iraq to make their own cartel of extraordinarily wealthy people wealthier. Now I agree that sweeping statements like 'all Americans are thick' are stupid and irritating, just like they'd be when directed at any nation, but I find it hard to accept to put a positive spin on Iraq, Afghanistan or the 'war on terror' at large.

Two wrongs don't make a right- their foreign policy isn't automatically the right once just because Iraq, Iran, or North Korea's isn't either.

bobblepuzzle

Deleted User wrote: »

That one statement speaks volumes.. You think America gives a fuk about anyone in the middle east? They care about what's under their feet, not above them.

Cop the fuk on and learn about the world instead of postin tripe on here.

No, you cop the f*** on, if the US wasn't there Europe would of been under the rule of tyranny, I might add there is no Oil under South Korea, but they'll defend them to the death!

Cmdr Keen

Cmdr Keen wrote: »

No, you cop the f*** on, if the US wasn't there Europe would of been under the rule of tyranny, I might add there is no Oil under South Korea, but they'll defend them to the death!

America joined both wars at the late stages and they're only backing South Korea because of communist North Korea.

I love these threads.. They make me feel so intelligent but sometimes it's almost too easy.

ejmaztec

Cmdr Keen wrote: »

No, you cop the f*** on, if the US wasn't there Europe would of been under the rule of tyranny, I might add there is no Oil under South Korea, but they'll defend them to the death!

A lot of Europe was, despite the Americans.

SV

The_Minister wrote: »

They are loud, annoying and think that they are great...






....now that the French are out of the way, let's start into America...

I thought you were talking about Jedward

TanG411

We either moan about Ireland or another country.

Unfortunately it was America, sorry about that.

bobblepuzzle

Deleted User wrote: »

America joined both wars at the late stages and they're only backing South Korea because of communist North Korea.

I love these threads.. They make me feel so intelligent but sometimes it's almost too easy.

But your not... thats the thing! All you spiel out is arrogance, and might I ask you sir, have you ever been to the states?

cypharius

Cmdr Keen wrote: »

There's a lot of anti-american sentiment in AH... was just wondering why?

There's alot of anti-everything on AH

Cmdr Keen wrote: »

Because they went into Iraq to remove a prick, is that it??

ROFLMAO!

Nah but really, did you consider that they were the ones who put him in power in the first place? Or that his entire military was funded by the US? Or that the guy there before him was worse?

Cmdr Keen wrote: »

Don't forget the amount of good the US has done for Ireland... whether it be investment or help in the North...

Globalization isn't a completely good thing.

Cmdr Keen wrote: »

Seems to me anti-americanism is fashionable in Ireland these days, but the arguments put forward are clueless at best and just downright stupid at worst (yes there are stupid Americans, but there are also stupid Irish) They've done a lot more for the world than we have, so fo with your s****

This is the first American themed thread on AH I've seen today, and yes, there are stupid people in every culture, but this is an example of a stupid comment IMO.

starbelgrade

cypharius wrote: »

There's alot of anti-everything on AH

I'm vehemently opposed to that statement.

bobblepuzzle

cypharius wrote: »

There's alot of anti-everything on AH



ROFLMAO!

Nah but really, did you consider that they were the ones who put him in power in the first place? Or that his entire military was funded by the US? Or that the guy there before him was worse?



Globalization isn't a completely good thing.


This is the first American themed thread on AH I've seen today, and yes, there are stupid people in every culture, but this is an example of a stupid comment IMO.

So what clueless or stupid argument do you have to make?

Cmdr Keen

Cmdr Keen wrote: »

But your not... thats the thing! All you spiel out is arrogance, and might I ask you sir, have you ever been to the states?

Yeah twice.. New York and San Fran. I guarantee I know more about America's foreign policy than 99% of it's citizens. Along with boards, it's all I look at. Constantly reading.
Arrogance my fukin whole.. What state you from?

cypharius

Cmdr Keen wrote: »

So what clueless or stupid argument do you have to make?

I don't.

Although I will say, that I have yet to meet an American(Online or otherwise) who has heard of Blackwater.

Mr Benevolent

Cmdr Keen wrote: »

Because they went into Iraq to remove a prick, is that it??

You don't remove the head of state of another country without good reason. 'Being a prick' is not a good reason. The real reason is because Saddam wanted to create an international oil bourse dealing only in Euros. Executing the head of state of another country, however, is a studied insult to the world in general. It's a statement of unalloyed arrogance and overconfidence. The US is losing its superpower status and is starting to panic. That is why many people show contempt for the US. Their international record has been one enormous PR disaster since Hiroshima.

ejmaztec

Is it "argue-for-the-sake-of-it troll" night?

cypharius

ejmaztec wrote: »

Is it "argue-for-the-sake-of-it troll" night?

It's "argue-for-the-sake-of-it troll" night every night on boards

Ush1

Didn't the US make the excuse that Iraq had WMDs when clearly the bigger threat is North Korea who definitely have nukes?

PeterIanStaker

starbelgrade wrote: »

I'm vehemently opposed to that statement.

I agree with you.

bobblepuzzle

It seems to me that downright arrogance is at play with the whole anti-american lobby, maybe its fear that are the most powerful nation, oh and btw, a load of stupid ***** couldn't have produced the military hardware thats the awe of the world, or indeed have sent men to space...

Ush1

Ush1 wrote: »

Didn't the US make the excuse that Iraq had WMDs when clearly the bigger threat is North Korea who definitely have nukes?

Off-topic:

Those nukes save so many lives.. Without them, there'd be a war.

Táck

"Now if you mean by ‘the country’ the government, I don’t think you can be proud of it. And I don’t think you could ever be proud of it. You couldn’t be proud of any government. It’s not our government…States are violent institutions. States are violent to the extent that they are powerful, that’s roughly accurate"

Ush1

Deleted User wrote: »

Off-topic:

Those nukes save so many lives.. Without them, there'd be a war.

That's what I'm getting at, the US are afraid to invade North Korea.

ejmaztec

Cmdr Keen wrote: »

It seems to me that downright arrogance is at play with the whole anti-american lobby, maybe its fear that are the most powerful nation, oh and btw, a load of stupid ***** couldn't have produced the military hardware thats the awe of the world, or indeed have sent men to space...

The Germans put the Americans in space.

Ush1

Ush1 wrote: »

That's what I'm getting at, the US are afraid to invade North Korea.

I know the point your making and I agree fully.. The Iraq thing really was ridiculous like..

bobblepuzzle

ejmaztec wrote: »

The Germans put the Americans in space.

Yes we know that, thank you very much However they were ex-pat Americans!

Ruu_Old

Sure, young Irish people are growing up more like Americans these days, even speaking the same! :eek:

El Weirdo

ejmaztec wrote: »

What have they done for us then?

Better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... but apart from that, what have the Romans Americans done for us?

ejmaztec

Cmdr Keen wrote: »

Yes we know that, thank you very much However they were ex-pat Americans!

I don't think there were any ex-pat Americans sending V1 and V2 rockets to England during WW2.

kumate_champ07

Cmdr Keen wrote: »

No, you cop the f*** on, if the US wasn't there Europe would of been under the rule of tyranny, I might add there is no Oil under South Korea, but they'll defend them to the death!

Didnt america help Sadam get into power in Iraq? Didnt they also back the Taliban and get them into power?

also, watch this from 1:36

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvQjDvnPpCk

marius

El Weirdo wrote: »

Better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... but apart from that, what have the Romans Americans done for us?

The streets are safe at night....

sheesh

Cmdr Keen wrote: »

There's a lot of anti-american sentiment in AH... was just wondering why?

Because they went into Iraq to remove a prick, is that it??

Don't forget the amount of good the US has done for Ireland... whether it be investment or help in the North...

Seems to me anti-americanism is fashionable in Ireland these days, but the arguments put forward are clueless at best and just downright stupid at worst (yes there are stupid Americans, but there are also stupid Irish) They've done a lot more for the world than we have, so fo with your s****

No wait. we like people from the usa its a great country. And I'm not being scarastic, They are really lovely people.

Its just when their government invades a country and kills loads of people for no reason..... well we feel we should say something ... because ye know..thats just wrong. it is called anti americanism but its more like an intervention.

bonerm

Cmdr Keen wrote: »

Don't forget the amount of good the US has done for Ireland... whether it be investment or help in the North...

Who gives a damn tho? Everything the US do is (naturally and like most other countries) out of self-interest, including any input they've had in Ireland.

Take all their "heroic" efforts in Haiti for example. It was worked out it was something like 50-100 cheaper to for the US to send aide and money there rather than let the problem play itself out and then deal with the rush of illegal immigrants on US borders and beyond.

I've nothing particular against the place but it should not be presumed that we owe the US anything.

bnt

Any time someone generalises about "America" as if it's one coherent culture, I know I can just ignore that. I've been there four times - Seattle, New York, Denver, Houston - and saw four different countries, in effect.

Look at some movies that show regional culture, such as Fargo (Minnesota), Clueless (California), Napoleon Dynamite (Idaho), Manhattan (er ...), and so on. How many movies have there been in which Americans feel the need to take a trip to "look for America"? :cool:

desertcircus

Assisting in the overthrow of Salvador Allende might do it. Refusing to recognise the Heng Samrin regime in Cambodia in favour of Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge might do it. Bombing the al-Shifa pharmaceutical factory in the Sudan might do it. The My Lai massacre might do it. The protecting of Noriega's cocaine trade in order to funnel arms to the Iranians might do it. The near-bottomless arrogance of assuming that US foreign policy is beneficial and good while not bothering to learn the first thing about what's being done might do it.

Just a wild guess.

Truley

Cmdr Keen wrote: »

It seems to me that downright arrogance is at play with the whole anti-american lobby, maybe its fear that are the most powerful nation, oh and btw, a load of stupid ***** couldn't have produced the military hardware thats the awe of the world, or indeed have sent men to space...

Jeez if your so in love with it why don't you just marry America so :pac:

*satisfied nod*

Cmdr Keen

Cmdr Keen wrote: »

It seems to me that downright arrogance is at play with the whole anti-american lobby, maybe its fear that are the most powerful nation, oh and btw, a load of stupid ***** couldn't have produced the military hardware thats the awe of the world, or indeed have sent men to space...

LOL

R0ot

1 in 4 Americans are retarded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmEp97yQcRQ

bnt

bnt wrote: »

Any time someone generalises about "America" as if it's one coherent culture, I know I can just ignore that.

So when America bombed the absolute shlte out of Cambodia during Operation Menu, what state should I blame it on?


America is America. It can go fuk of and die and the world will be a better place.. Disgusting dunghole.

RoundyMooney

inb4 Overheal.

baltimore sun

El Weirdo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI

Biggins

Cmdr Keen wrote: »

There's a lot of anti-american sentiment in AH... was just wondering why?

Because they went into Iraq to remove a prick, is that it??

I can't believe that people think that was just the reason!
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