iPhone 4 - No data on 3 network

wailim_2002

Hi All,

Have my iPhone 4 since Tuesday. Its on the 3 network. So far I have managed to download a whopping 45MB of data and upload 30MB. Not happy at all.

At my house the phone switches to a non 3G cell for better signal strength. So great voice calls but no data!

At my place of work in Blackrock, Dublin, it works in the morning time. But by about 9.30am as other offices fill up and the 3G coverage area shrinks, boing--- it does the same as at home and I cannot use youtube or safari. SQUAT.

Voice calls and SMSs are obviously not affected.

Interestingly, I've been a '3' 3G data modem customer for 2 years now. A basic Huwei E220 data modem plugged into a laptop by USB picks up the 2 bar 3G cell at my house and a 3 bar 3G cell in blackrock. It connects in both locations, suffers no disconnects and delivers ~700Kbps at home and 1.6Mbps in blackrock.

I might have a faulty phone but based on other media reports this looks unlikely. It really does seem like the iPhone 4 reception is weak even without the "grip of death". My problem is with the phone just sitting on the table!

It would be nice to be able to force the phone to use '3G only' to prevent the handoffs but this is *not possible* on the iPhone without obtain root shell access. Something I am not going to do yet!

Have contacted 3. Level 1 support politely informed me I would receive a call from Level 2 support Today and apologised for being unable to assist.

Stuxnet

yup, thats why we all leaving 3 !!

well documented in this thread

bloomfield

You can force the iPhone to be on 3G only with 3, by changing the carrier from 'Automatic' to '3 (3G)'. This will force it to stay on the proper 3 network, rather than roam onto the 2G network.

The only problem is that when the phone loses 3G coverage it pops an annoying message, rather than just quietly waiting until coverage returns.

pah

iPwnage wrote: »

yup, thats why we all leaving 3 !!

well documented in this thread

Let's not start another thread.

wailim_2002

bloomfield wrote: »

You can force the iPhone to be on 3G only with 3, by changing the carrier from 'Automatic' to '3 (3G)'. This will force it to stay on the proper 3 network, rather than roam onto the 2G network.

The only problem is that when the phone loses 3G coverage it pops an annoying message, rather than just quietly waiting until coverage returns.

I tried that first thing but thats not what happens in my experience.

If I select '3 G' in the carrier option and then deliberately walk to a corner of the building where the 3G coverage falls off a cliff, the phone switches to 2 / 2.5G.

So this setting does not work like the 'Band selection' option of my 3 data modem dashboard! In there, my data modem has the option to specify "3G only". No, this iPhone option seems more like which carrier do you prefer?

Moreover, once the phone does do the 'handover' to 2/2.5G, it does not seem to return to the 3G cell. Presumably it sees the signal strength is preferable on the 2/2.5G cell!! The only way to get back to 3G is to switch to airplane mode and then back to normal mode. The phone seems to have different preferences when obtaining a connection.

So it seems to me the phone is setup to do this:

1) Initial connection ---- 3G preferred regardless of signal strength.
2) Handover immediately once the 3G cells suggests better coverage is available from a 2/2.5G cell
3) Stick with the 2/2.5G cell until a 3G cell with better signal strength [than the 2.5G cell] is available. <- Of course this isn't going to happen often!

It looks like the phone looks unfavorably on 3G cells with 3 bars or less when a 5 bar 2.5G cell is available.

A patch that puts this handover threshold at 1 bar would probably solve the problem.

pyramuid man

It has been posted on another thread that the they are solving this problem by allowing to data surfing on 2g from the 13th of this month

pah

wailim_2002 wrote: »

It looks like the phone looks unfavorably on 3G cells with 3 bars or less when a 5 bar 2.5G cell is available.

A patch that puts this handover threshold at 1 bar would probably solve the problem.

LOL let's keep this thread actually - that'e the most succint description of the problem i've seen to date - couldn't agree with you more. - On the problem & solution.

mad muffin

pah wrote: »

LOL let's keep this thread actually - that'e the most succint description of the problem i've seen to date - couldn't agree with you more. - On the problem & solution.

This problem only exists on the 3network, no other network has this problem.

pah

mad muffin wrote: »

This problem only exists on the 3network, no other network has this problem.

Not on vodafone or o2 anyway. It must have something to do with three having to lease 2G services from vodafone. There's something seriously wrong with it.

My phone shows 3G coverage and anything from 3-5 bars most of the time. I think I'm affected by the death grip too and when the signal drops to 2 and then 1 bars the 3G vanishes and within 5 secs I have 5 bars full service but no 3G. It has gotten better of late and comes back after a few minutes.

wailim_2002

pyramuid man wrote: »

It has been posted on another thread that the they are solving this problem by allowing to data surfing on 2g from the 13th of this month

Just to point out: This would be a small compromise but not a solution. 2.5G EDGE data services are an awful lot slower than 3G. If you consider the latest 3G is going onwards past 7.2Mbps (theoretical) and giving 1Mbps in practice for most people..... EDGE's theroetical max is something like 400Kbps and the last time I used it with my data modem, I got just 50kbps... for weeks. They can take the phone back!

mad muffin

wailim_2002 wrote: »

Just to point out: This would be a small compromise but not a solution. 2.5G EDGE data services are an awful lot slower than 3G. If you consider the latest 3G is going onwards past 7.2Mbps (theoretical) and giving 1Mbps in practice for most people..... EDGE's theroetical max is something like 400Kbps and the last time I used it with my data modem, I got just 50kbps... for weeks. They can take the phone back!

I don't think you'll have Edge with 3. They roam on Vodafone 2G so it's only GPRS.

As far as I know only O2 and Meteor have Edge.

jimmycrackcorm

Can someone experiencing this problem when on the2g connection try this test: when it looks like there is no data connectivity, open the browser and try to access the three my3 page. If that works then go to the today section and select the rte news link and after that try any other web link. I seem to get 2g working on by using this although I'm not using an iPhone

Irish fanboy

pyramuid man wrote: »

It has been posted on another thread that the they are solving this problem by allowing to data surfing on 2g from the 13th of this month

Hi,
Could you please confirm where you received that information. It would solve all our problems straight away.
Cheers.

Stuxnet

Data on 2g will still suck as it won't be Edge speed standard I'm thinking ? Thats not good enough when your an iPhone owner

Walkman

iPwnage wrote: »

Data on 2g will still suck as it won't be Edge speed standard I'm thinking ? Thats not good enough when your an iPhone owner

Well it's as good as your going to get as the agreement is with Vodafone

pah

iPwnage wrote: »

Data on 2g will still suck as it won't be Edge speed standard I'm thinking ? Thats not good enough when your an iPhone owner

I don't want data on EDGE I want the 3G switching problem fixed - I lose signal where I KNOW there is good 3G coverage. I don't give a rats ass about 2G

wailim_2002

pah wrote: »

I don't want data on EDGE I want the 3G switching problem fixed - I lose signal where I KNOW there is good 3G coverage. I don't give a rats ass about 2G

I agree 100% with PAH! Its no better than telephone dial up. Not good enough.

Just got off the phone with Tech 2 support who confirmed that on Friday they will allow the above data roaming.

I enquired if this was 'THE' solution or a temporary work-around to which he responded this was 'THE' solution.

I corrected him on what they seem to perceive as the problem. It is not that I have no 3G, it is that the phone switches away from seemingly good 3G to 2G and that they should patch the phone, not the network. It would be interesting to see the coverage map updated to show where iPhone4 can actually pick up a reliable 3G network without switching..... I know for example, sitting in a pub in Blackrock I have 4 bars and no problems... but 200 hundred meters up the road with 2 bars, the phone switches to 2G and 'puff' goes the data connection.

NOT GOOD ENOUGH 3!!!

2G GPRS data: MAX Theoretical: 112Kbps --- typical 56Kbps
2.5G GPRS EDGE: Max Theoretical: 440Kbps --- typical 128Kbps
3G: Max Theoretical: 7.2Mbps --- typical 1Mbps.

3G = 16x faster than EDGE = 65x faster than 2G

Or more practically phrased: something that takes 30 seconds on 3G might take 30 minutes on 2G (if you can hold a data connection that long).

So ... 2G dialup for my iPhone 4? NOT GOOD ENOUGH 3!!!

This is not why I got an iPhone.

Awaiting callback from 3 cancellations who are apparently very busy. I wonder why?

ingen

wailim_2002 wrote: »

I agree 100% with PAH! Its no better than telephone dial up. Not good enough.

Just got off the phone with Tech 2 support who confirmed that on Friday they will allow the above data roaming.

I enquired if this was 'THE' solution or a temporary work-around to which he responded this was 'THE' solution.

I corrected him on what they seem to perceive as the problem. It is not that I have no 3G, it is that the phone switches away from seemingly good 3G to 2G and that they should patch the phone, not the network. It would be interesting to see the coverage map updated to show where iPhone4 can actually pick up a reliable 3G network without switching..... I know for example, sitting in a pub in Blackrock I have 4 bars and no problems... but 200 hundred meters up the road with 2 bars, the phone switches to 2G and 'puff' goes the data connection.

NOT GOOD ENOUGH 3!!!

2G GPRS data: MAX Theoretical: 112Kbps --- typical 56Kbps
2.5G GPRS EDGE: Max Theoretical: 440Kbps --- typical 128Kbps
3G: Max Theoretical: 7.2Mbps --- typical 1Mbps.

3G = 16x faster than EDGE = 65x faster than 2G

Or more practically phrased: something that takes 30 seconds on 3G might take 30 minutes on 2G (if you can hold a data connection that long).

So ... 2G dialup for my iPhone 4? NOT GOOD ENOUGH 3!!!

This is not why I got an iPhone.

Awaiting callback from 3 cancellations who are apparently very busy. I wonder why?

re the 2g /3g switching on three.

this morning i did a trip along the m1, with a blackberry and 3 sim, blackbery was set to 2g/3g auto. i noticed that a lot of the journey in places where i would have thought they would have strong signal (along m1) the blackberry was roaming on the vodafone network 2g...


so on the trip back i set the blackberry just to 3g, and did the trip back same route. the phone held the 3g signal for the entire trip!.

with the iphone, can you set it just to 3g only? or has three locked it to 2g/3g auto mode?


i would guess its something to do with network / sim, as the backberry is doing the same as other iphone users reported, ie switching from good 3g signal to 2g..

jimmycrackcorm

mad muffin wrote: »

This problem only exists on the 3network with the iPhone, no other network has this problem.

Fyp

JayeL

I had similar problems with 3's 3G coverage when I got a 3GS from them in May, lost 3G coverage in areas I knew had it. Yet after a few weeks, it seemed to work itself out. 3 didn't upgrade coverage in the area, the phone just started to pick it up where I knew there was 3G.

It especially works well when you have something streaming at the time; I used WunderRadio a lot and it holds the 3G signal very well. I think the iPhone has a tendency not to stretch itself to maintain 3G coverage in order to keep the battery level up, the last 3 carrier update improved this and in the past few days, I've been able to go on the web with 2G or something (whatever the blue dot is) at ok speeds.

Bottom line is I think 3's network wasn't ready for the iPhone but they're getting there.

wailim_2002

ingen wrote: »

re the 2g /3g switching on three.

....

so on the trip back i set the blackberry just to 3g, and did the trip back same route. the phone held the 3g signal for the entire trip!.

with the iphone, can you set it just to 3g only? or has three locked it to 2g/3g auto mode?

...
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I agree with what you have found with your drive test. Thanks for sharing this. This confirms what I've been saying about my '3' data modem. It works flawlessly at my house and also at work. But the iPhone can't stay on the 3G network.

And, on the iPhone 4 at least it doesn't appear to be possible to specify '3G Only'. In the 'services' menu if you select '3G', the phone will still end up on '3' (2G)... as I told the level 2 support guy they just need to patch the firmware on the phone to be switch less agressively and also to have a proper '3G Only' option.

iPhone does indeed switch to 2G to save battery. But I think whomever decided to hardcode that behaviour figured EDGE was the minimum they would be dropping down to. Not GPRS and especially not GSM-Only (no data sessions) as is currently the case with '3'.... what a cock-up

ingen

funny thing is, that i have two blackberries here in front of me, both set to 3g only mode.

one with a three sim and one with an o2 sim

the o2 one has 1 bar 3g signal


the three one has full 3g signal.

the other issue with a phone on three is , as that they are mainly a 3G network, leaving, a blackberry / iphone in 3g mode all the time, will result in poorer battery life, as 3g uses more power.

i am considering three for a bold 9700 at the moment, cant make my mind up. decisions decisions.

wailim_2002

So cancellations finally got back to me.

I said if they can reduce the contract in some way in recognition of the mismatch between iPhone and their network.. at least until they really sort the problem out with a patch, that I would consider it. Otherwise I want to cancel.

They were not in negotiating mood. So I canceled.

wailim_2002

Haven't posted the phone back yet.

I see 'three' have just enabled GPRS (roaming data on vodafone 2G cells) here in Blackrock! I now have a blue 'o' icon and internet connectivity without doing the manual switch back.

speedtest.net reports 34kbps download and 3kbps upload.

The 3G cell that I switch back to manually reports 2000kbps download and 1600kbps at 2 bars signal strength!!

Why can't I just stay on that 'three'???

Mr Jin eL

I don't understand why people complain about this 2G and 3G connection/speeds?
for example I use the phone for hardcore surfing over wifi. If I need to check an email or weather or basic stuff over 2G/3G, it does the job.
I would say that most of the people have DSL Broadband in the house with Wireless Modem anyway. - therefore connect the phone to the modem wirelessly and the problem with: "my phone in my house doesn't have 3G, or I cannot surf because the speed in my house is slow" should be fixed (at least for majority of people):D

wailim_2002

Mr Jin eL wrote: »

I don't understand why people complain about this 2G and 3G connection/speeds?
for example I use the phone for hardcore surfing over wifi. If I need to check an email or weather or basic stuff over 2G/3G, it does the job.
I would say that most of the people have DSL Broadband in the house with Wireless Modem anyway. - therefore connect the phone to the modem wirelessly and the problem with: "my phone in my house doesn't have 3G, or I cannot surf because the speed in my house is slow" should be fixed (at least for majority of people):D

Maybe because the contract and the phone is very expensive and most people aren't prepared to pay twice to use their own WIFI. But htis is beside the point, this is Ireland and not everyone has DSL to start with.

If your brand new car arrived with no engine, but you could tow it along with your old car..... would you be happy?

The reason people are specifying Home / Work / Other locations is to highlight that it is not a localised problem. These people are paying for a very expensive phone & service and it should be delivered on. To many people, the point of a phone such as this is to be able to do more demanding things then you suggest, such as use skype while walking around dublin, or cork etc... or watch streaming video while on a long bus or train ride..... your home WIFI won't help there.

Mr Jin eL

wailim_2002 wrote: »

Maybe because the contract and the phone is very expensive and most people aren't prepared to pay twice to use their own WIFI. But htis is beside the point, this is Ireland and not everyone has DSL to start with.

If your brand new car arrived with no engine, but you could tow it along with your old car..... would you be happy?

The reason people are specifying Home / Work / Other locations is to highlight that it is not a localised problem. These people are paying for a very expensive phone & service and it should be delivered on. To many people, the point of a phone such as this is to be able to do more demanding things then you suggest, such as use skype while walking around dublin, or cork etc... or watch streaming video while on a long bus or train ride..... your home WIFI won't help there.

That's the reason I specified indoors/house potential solution is because none of the network in Ireland guarantee a 3G coverage indoor. As for the iPhone being so expensive...if you can afford having a iPhone 4..I am sure you can afford a broadband with minimum 15 euro a month.
If you cannot have BB in your area because of the geographical reasons, how do you expect to have a strong 3G coverage there.
And about your example about car. IF you buy a Brand New Ferrari...would you start complaining about the narrow roads in Ireland OR Speed limits on motorways.
As per 3G network outside, I never have a problem with youtube streaming on a bus/car. I have been in few places around Ireland and my friends around the country have no problems with 3G. Indoors Yes. Hence to my earlier post. Good luck!!:pac:

Irish fanboy

wailim_2002 wrote: »

Haven't posted the phone back yet.

I see 'three' have just enabled GPRS (roaming data on vodafone 2G cells) here in Blackrock! I now have a blue 'o' icon and internet connectivity without doing the manual switch back.

@wailim
I havnt seen this 2g data on 3 network today.Did you have to do something to the phone settings to enable it.
I still have 3g data only with no internet when the phone switches to 3(2g) network.

borygo77

You're right Irish Fanboy...Data is workin now with 2G

Irish fanboy

borygo77 wrote: »

You're right Irish Fanboy...Data is workin now with 2G

I can't get 2g data working at all lads. What did you guys do to it working?
I have done everything I can think of with the nextwork settings.

deep1

Irish fanboy wrote: »

I can't get 2g data working at all lads. What did you guys do to it working?
I have done everything I can think of with the nextwork settings.

First restart the ph and then select 3 from carrier list and see if you get the little o circle beside carrier, that means you have 2g working, if you can't then contact three.
if you do then select automatic from carrier list and you should have 2g when no 3g available.

Irish fanboy

I have actually tried that already. I wonder if the 2g data is only available in certain areas. I have rang 3 support twice and went through the usuall restore, update and try again stuff with no success.
I still can't get 2g data.
All I get is " an error occurred , a data connection is not currently allowed" 3G data is working fine.
I have till 6 pm tomorrow to cancel before cooling off period is up.
Hopefully it will sorted by then.
If anyone has any suggestions it would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers
Fanboy

Steveirl2010

Hi,

I'm going down to "3" today. I'm thinking of buying the new iPhone4, Im in the swords area, Does anyone know what the data connection is like there?

Some interesting posts about the data connection.
So the problem is not with the phone signal for making/receiving calls.
The problem is only with the data connection were it is switching from 3G to 2G?

Am I right in saying 3G uses vodafone servers and 2G is there own server?

Anyone want me to ask them anything while im down there?

Its no wonder there iphones are 150 euro cheaper than other networks

Should i get the guy in the shop to check for 3G and 2G data enabled on the phone in the shop.

forgive my ignorance if any of the above is quoted or mentioned wrongly.

Should i get the new signal cover with the phone?
We all know in general there is a signal issue with the new iPhones.

Whats tests should i do with the phone?
I noticed people saying they have a warranty period with the new phone before they can bring it back, is that correct?

Thanks and much appreciated on the advice givien

Steveirl2010

Irish fanboy wrote: »

I have actually tried that already. I wonder if the 2g data is only available in certain areas. I have rang 3 support twice and went through the usuall restore, update and try again stuff with no success.
I still can't get 2g data.
All I get is " an error occurred , a data connection is not currently allowed" 3G data is working fine.
I have till 6 pm tomorrow to cancel before cooling off period is up.
Hopefully it will sorted by then.
If anyone has any suggestions it would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers
Fanboy

Hi Fanboy,

I did'nt know you could cancel a contract ?

Jimdagym

Steveirl2010 wrote: »

Hi,

I'm going down to "3" today. I'm thinking of buying the new iPhone4, Im in the swords area, Does anyone know what the data connection is like there?

Some interesting posts about the data connection.
So the problem is not with the phone signal for making/receiving calls.
The problem is only with the data connection were it is switching from 3G to 2G?

Am I right in saying 3G uses vodafone servers and 2G is there own server?

Anyone want me to ask them anything while im down there?

Its no wonder there iphones are 150 euro cheaper than other networks

Should i get the guy in the shop to check for 3G and 2G data enabled on the phone in the shop.

forgive my ignorance if any of the above is quoted or mentioned wrongly.

Should i get the new signal cover with the phone?
We all know in general there is a signal issue with the new iPhones.

Whats tests should i do with the phone?
I noticed people saying they have a warranty period with the new phone before they can bring it back, is that correct?

Thanks and much appreciated on the advice givien

You wont be able to get him to check the signal on your phone till you activate it at home. They could show you on there phone, but that would be pretty much irrevelant.

naasrd

Steveirl2010 wrote: »

We all know in general there is a signal issue with the new iPhones.

Eh...count me out of the "we" there please. No signal problems here thank you very much.

wailim_2002

1) To those who say: "No problem here"... have a read of this article. Its pretty clear iPhone4 has more degradation than other phones. Granted this does not mean everyone will have a problem but please don't dismiss the 'iPhone4' issue out of hand. If you have no issue at home then you are lucky to be near a transmitter. Fair Play! I have tested the iPhone 4 side by side with my new MIFI device (using the same SIM) and the MIFI devices thrashes it everywhere I go.. conclusion: if data is very important to you then exercise caution getting an iPhone4.. consider a modem instead.

2) The protocol for handoffs is that the phone tells the network what 'cells' it sees and the attenuation of the signal from each cell and then the network offers a handoff if appropriate. Obviously, if 1 is affecting you then 2 will happen more often. If 1 is not affecting you then 2 will not affect you either.

3) Enter '3 IRL' into the equation..... regardless of 1) and 2) the iPhone will do handoffs to 2G. No discussion here. It happens on all phones and all networks. The biggest problem here is that '3 IRL' had no 2G data up until recently and the phone does not switch back automatically to 3G either when you need it or when it is available. This means that many people had to toggle airplane mode to get back onto 3G to do something with data (As far as I know 2G -> 3G handoffs are not supported by any network).

If you now step back and compare the three provides (02, vodafone & 3) then you might agree with the following opinion that you should probably choose your service provider carefully!! None stand out as offering a solution to everyone.

Heres my opinion based on my own experience and feedback from many others:

1) O2 seems to have a good mix of 3G cells and 2.5G (EDGE) cells around the country. Given that the handoffs will happen, it is likely you may not notice as much on O2... however this assumes you move around areas where either an O2 3G or 2.5G cell lives. The words 'complaint' and 'O2' don't arise in the same sentence very often. For city, O2 come tops in my opinion. For rural areas I am less convinced.

2) '3 Networks' have possibly the best spread of 3G cells around the country. Certainly in my experience of several rural areas in Cork, Kildare and Dublin they definitely have 3G where others do not! They have no 2G cells of their own. They lease 2G voice from Vodafone and have begun measures to expand the lease to cover 2G data. But this is again without EDGE. Also, where they do have 3G, they seem to give less bandwidth.... I've seen someone get 5Mbps on a vodafone iPhone4 but I can't get past 2.5Mbps with my iPhone 4 on '3' anywhere that I've tried.... haven't been into Dublin center yet though. But the number of 3G cells here is good so in the rural areas there is a fighting chance of getting good coverage.

3) Vodafone have the most 2G cells, no EDGE (as far as I know) and many 3G cells that give good bandwidth, possibly the highest bandwidth of the 3 providers. However many people have experienced Vodafone to favour Urban areas when deploying 3G so for this reason they probably come tops or close seconds with city dwellers. My experience of vodafone in the sticks was terrible in 3 locations... specifically (Ballygarvan - Cork, Newbridge - Kildare & Ashford - Wicklow). For rural dwellers ensure you get a 15 day trial because with fewer 3G cells and no EDGE the odds are against a happy contract.

One option for those who value data equally to voice is to get a smart phone on meteor on a voice only contract (€20pm) and also a MIFI device on '3 Irl' (€20pm for 15GB) and connect the smart phone to the MIFI over wireless. This gives you a good voice package, unbeatable data package and the flexibility to use the MIFI with other devices too without requiring to pay for 'tethering'!!!!

Steveirl2010

Should i just go get the iPhone 3gs then ?

MadDogGreener

wailim_2002 wrote: »

(As far as I know 2G -> 3G handoffs are not supported by any network).

2g to 3g handoffs should be supported by all networks. The phone should do a location update every 6mins or so and hand back over to 3g assuming a 3g signal is available. If not successful it will retry in another 6mins etc.

Having said that there definitely seems to be an issue with the three iphone config that is preventing this.

Rafloution

I cancelled on the 13th well inside my cooling off period. Received my credit note yesterday thank god.

Went to O2 got the iPhone 4 and have no problems, 3g stable the way it should be.

Guys when you buy they have a 14 day cooling off period wherby if you have network issues and they say in their network coverage that 3g is covered then send it back.

18 months of crap is a long time not to mention any proxy issues that they also have

Steveirl2010

The 16g is too dear on O2 and Vodafone its 359 for the iPhone 4

only 209 with "Three"

1 lad above saying he doesnt have any issues with Iphone4 on "Three"

Where you based?

theres always 1 lucky person

Steveirl2010

I heard the battery on the iPhone 4 is a lot better than the 3Gs ?

Kaskade

Steveirl2010 wrote: »

I heard the battery on the iPhone 4 is a lot better than the 3Gs ?

not for me it isn't, probably because I am using it more since it is a new toy. I am still charging it every night.

Steveirl2010

Three are moving to 4G soon

slasher_65

Steveirl2010 wrote: »

Three are moving to 4G soon

Where did you hear that? Is that the 7.2Mb/s that Jobs was chattering on about, claiming that the iPhone 4 supported it?

naasrd

Steveirl2010 wrote: »

The 16g is too dear on O2 and Vodafone its 359 for the iPhone 4

only 209 with "Three"

1 lad above saying he doesnt have any issues with Iphone4 on "Three"

Where you based?

theres always 1 lucky person

I'm in Dublin 8 but as I write I'm tethering from my iPhone 4 to my iPad on the Galway train approaching Athenry!!

Steveirl2010

They told me...the iphone wont support it you will have to download an app to connect to it.

Steveirl2010

naasrd wrote: »

I'm in Dublin 8 but as I write I'm tethering from my iPhone 4 to my iPad on the Galway train approaching Athenry!!

tethering?

naasrd

Steveirl2010 wrote: »

tethering?

I'm using my iPhone data bundle from 3 on my iPad via an app called Mywi I bought on Cydia. Tethering is connecting one to the other, wirelessly in this case.

pah

Steveirl2010 wrote: »

They told me...the iphone wont support it you will have to download an app to connect to it.

LOL :rolleyes:

pah

Posting this from inchydoney west cork over GPRS or the "o" icon 2.5g won't be downloading any apps but mail web FB etc working fine. Nice one.