Attack on students in Gaeltacht

Snickers Man

Just saw this disturbing report in the Irish Times.

A group of teenage students at Irish college in the Loughanure Gaeltacth of Donegal were assaulted by a gang of locals wielding hurleys and suffered quite severe injuries.

I remember in my day (the 70s) in the neighbouring Gaeltacht of Rannafast that there were, er, tensions between the male students and those whom we dismissively called the Munchies, a corruption of muintir na h-aite, or local people.

In fact many of the Munchies were Scottish, the nephews and cousins of people from the area whose families had emigrated to Scotland and who would come back for the summer. Mostly, it was all talk and no action, but occasionally it would break out into scuffles.

Never anything as bad as this though.

Anybody had any violent experiences in Irish college, in recent years or times long past?

genericguy

the people responsible for that are a shower of cowardly scumbags, and i hope they get caught, named and shamed and punished appropriately.

ElaElaElano

That's a horrific read.

I was at the Gaeltacht in Donegal once, the year before the Leaving, and while it was mostly brilliant three of us did get our heads kicked in by a bunch of local kids one night- no hurls or anything, just relentless kicking...although, in fairness, we were after escaping from the house by jumping out the upstairs bathroom window (it was 3am) so maybe it was karma.

genericguy

ElaElaElano wrote: »

maybe it was karma.

that's not karma man, karma is what happens to bastards like this in the prison showers.

fakearms123

I was at the Gaeltacht in Rinne, Waterford a few years ago and I remember one of the lads in the Gaeltacht scored a local girl and let just say her local boyfriend was not happy at all! He didn't fight the lad one on one, oh no he wasnt man enough for that, he had to get all his local friends to jump the guy after a ceili, very sad indeed

easyeason3

Maybe they heard them speaking English instead of Irish...

Disturbing reports killed my father and raped my mother.. Down with this sort of thing.

PeterIanStaker

Damn forridners

CreepingDeath

Daniel O'Donnell supporters... they're a rough lot.

Fratton Fred

WTF was this for? just thugs looking for kicks?

The fact they used hurleys kind of implies that they aren't adverse to a bit of Irish culture, so why give people learning da lingo a kicking?

ElaElaElano

genericguy wrote: »

that's not karma man, karma is what happens to bastards like this in the prison showers.

True, no dinner for one night would probably have been sufficient. Problem is, we were afraid to tell the bean an tí or the college heads about it, cos we thought they'd go mental about us escaping. Silly, looking back.

minidazzler

Pfft, when I was in the Gaeltacht it was a glorified orgy! Cape Clear rules!

mikom

Snickers Man wrote: »

Anybody had any violent experiences in Irish college, in recent years or times long past?

I was raped by the Modh Coinníollach once, if that counts.

topper75

Donegal is the least wealthy county, but a good sliothar is €10 ffs!

CreepingDeath

Maybe they were startled by the Northern lights last night and saw it as a bad omen which required a sacrifice.

mikom

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Maybe they were startled by the Northern lights last night and saw it as a bad omen which required a sacrifice.

Should have toked some Northern lights......... might have calmed them down.

Ricosruffneck

I'm from that part of donegal.

I'm just astounded nothing has been put in place to protect the kids coming to learn Irish.

They have to walk from their surrogate homes to the college, they're basically main roads wit stereotypical donegal drivers.

And apart from drivers you have to worry about pricks like that. Madness.

They'll have to start giving the kids weapons.
And the attackers will only get a slap on the wrist that won't require stitches.

Snickers Man

Fratton Fred wrote: »

WTF was this for? just thugs looking for kicks?

The fact they used hurleys kind of implies that they aren't adverse to a bit of Irish culture, so why give people learning da lingo a kicking?

I can virtually guarantee you that whatever this was about, it was not about differing views on the importance of Gaelic culture.

I'm betting it was a lot more primeval than that.

Almost at the level of territorial pissings.

Just my guess.

spinandscribble

Thats really fecking awful. Hope they get what is coming to them.

fontanalis

They were probably just practising for the Limelight this weekend.

PARARORY

They'll have to start giving the kids weapons.

That would just cause many many more problems...

I'v been to Irish College almost 6 times in the last few years and I worked there as well and I never encountered something like this. From what I can remember there was only one fight and that was between some students over something stupid and got sorted out immediately..

The cheek of the locals worrying that this will damage the industry for them up there - in a small town like that , the chances are that the scumbags involved are their children are quite high!

Ricosruffneck

PARARORY wrote: »

That would just cause many many more problems...

I'v been to Irish College almost 6 times in the last few years and I worked there as well and I never encountered something like this. From what I can remember there was only one fight and that was between some students over something stupid and got sorted out immediately..

The cheek of the locals worrying that this will damage the industry for them up there - in a small town like that , the chances are that the scumbags involved are their children are quite high!

I was not being serious.

Ricosruffneck

And why shouldn't they be worried about this industry closing up shop as a result of this.

It's one of the only industries in that area of the world. When everything is shutting up you hold on to what business you can.

PARARORY

And why shouldn't they be worried about this industry closing up shop as a result of this.

It's one of the only industries in that area of the world. When everything is shutting up you hold on to what business you can.

Well If I had kids and I was sending them to the Gaeltacht I would definitley steer clear of this one after hearing the story - of course It could happen anywhere but I've been to the Gaeltacht many times , both as a student and working and I've never had to deal with a situation like this.

Also , Irish College isn't cheap at all - when your paying alot of money for your kids to go learn irish,have fun etc you would presume that they would be safe!

Amhran Nua

Is there a lot of random violence in rural Ireland that we don't hear about? I know the worst offenders when it comes to fighting on the streets in the wee hours in Galway definetely wandered in from the hinterlands, and treat the city like a gladiatorial arena, but I assumed that was just the locality.

Ricosruffneck

You said 'the cheek of them'. Cheek to be worried about their families income? Money for the basics like sending their own kids to school, food, bills etc.

I'm asking why shouldn't they be worried.

I think safer practice should have been introduced years ago. Parents are under the impression that their kids are minded. They're not supervised for a good while during the evening

stovelid

At least they were attacked with hurleys and not British-themed weapons.

maninasia

In my day it was the trusted shillalegh..times change, sigh.

dlofnep

I fail to see the relevance of whether it was a Gaeltacht area or not. I see lads getting the complete and utter tripe kicked out of them here in Waterford on a regular basis. Never a mention in the papers.

Scum will be scum. It's sad that it happened there, as I've always found the Gaeltachtaí to be friendly places.

moonpurple

only in


donegal


again:pac:

dlofnep

moonpurple wrote: »

only in


donegal


again:pac:

Did anyone try look for a hidden message in this post?

ricero

WE TOOK THEIR JOBS

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starbelgrade

Snickers Man wrote: »

In fact many of the Munchies were Scottish, the nephews and cousins of people from the area whose families had emigrated to Scotland and who would come back for the summer.

I thought the munchies came from smokin' de weed.

jordan..

bit of a crack sure

Sea Sharp

Skangers in Donegal? Who'd a thunk it.

starbelgrade

Sea Sharp wrote: »

Skangers in Donegal? Who'd a thunk it.

Says the man from Dublin 15.

No skangers in Blanchardstown & Balbriggan these days?

HavingCrack

Poor kids, was the attack completely unprovoked though? The newspaper seems a bit sketchy on the details leading up to the fight. I wodner were these victims just randomly chosen. I'm not attempting to condone the horrific attack by any means but there's usually two sides to every story.

Sea Sharp

starbelgrade wrote: »

Says the man from Dublin 15.

No skangers in Blanchardstown & Balbriggan these days?

Ye startin' buddy????

babyfratelli_x

HavingCrack wrote: »

Poor kids, was the attack completely unprovoked though? The newspaper seems a bit sketchy on the details leading up to the fight. I wodner were these victims just randomly chosen. I'm not attempting to condone the horrific attack by any means but there's usually two sides to every story.

I dont know the details either, but I live not too far from there, and the local lads are known for startin random fights.

Now for all I know, they were provoked by the students ( not that that would make it ok) but I somehow dont think it would have taken much for them to start attacking them tbh.

happyfriday74

I remember the munchies, local lads who thought they were it.

They chase after all the women in the irish college, you'd have 18 19 year old munchies chasing birds well younger then them. If you were with a girl they liked they would often tell you to break her and threaten you with a beating if you didn't.

Kasabian

Donegal has it's fair share of scum bags , I always put it down to the fact that no one wants them. Even the Brits couldn't be arsed pulling them in. They are just isolated .










:pac:

genericguy

my girlfriend is from the far north of donegal, and because of the locals i fcuking hate going up there. they have this poxy chip on their shoulder about people from dublin, and i've often been started on because some prick heard my accent at the bar or while ordering in the chipper. i was once talking to a lad in a bar about how far away the bar was from my girlfriend's house, and some cnut came up and started giving me grief about how i "probably only have to walk up the road for milk". well, excuse me for choosing to live in a county with reasonably modern infrastructure.

personally i get more annoyed than worried by such pricks, but it's tiresome and i just don't have the time of day for anyone of the boy-racer age bracket up there. every last one of them is a boy-racer too.

the lesson kids, is stay out of donegal. it's a kip.

Il Trap

I was at Ranafast about 7/8 years ago. Encountered the 'munchies' once or twice. Knuckle-dragging red necks for the most part.
Anyway, a group of us were walking home around 9.30-10 when a gang of mutants, a good bit older than us jumped out from behind a wall. Started shouting insults and pushing us and stuff. Anyone who tried to defend themselves got turned on by two or three. Then the glass bottles started flying so we decided fu`ck this, and legged it!

Blindside87

Why don't we start our own gangs around the country and find these skobes...vigilante groups are the way forward at this rate.

monkeypants

genericguy wrote: »

some cnut came up and started giving me grief about how i "probably only have to walk up the road for milk"

Scraping the barrel for reasons to start a fight!

Elenxor

If I know Donegal Mothers....and I do, those lads who used Hurls in a fight will not be able to walk for a week!!

happyfriday74

THe dublin chip on the shoulder thing was true, everything was blamed on "the dublin lads", mind you a few cavan lads ended up getting a battering for no reason as well. Final disco in Irish college their numbers seemed to swell, was walking home in the dark and got a ottle thrown at me, missed by inches.

When they started threatening beatings on lads who were going out with pretty girls it was funny though. IN most cases the girls would be happy to go out with the munchie in the end. Gas thing is most of these girls wouldn't be seen dead with blokes like these in their home towns!

Noreen1

There are some interesting viewpoints expressed here!

I don't live in, or near, either Loughanure or Ranafast, therefore I can offer no valid opinion on the facts surrounding this case.

I can say, however, that a number of times while driving through Loughanure, I have experienced some poor attitudes from "Irish Language" students.
There does seem to be an attitude among some students that they can misbehave to their little thuggish hearts content - with impunity.

This has varied from students walking 4-5 abreast on the road, causing inconvenience to drivers, to some thugs throwing stones at passing cars.
I have had a windscreen cracked by one of these little thugs in the past - which didn't endear said students to me in the least!:mad: Needless to say, when the Gardai were called, the lad in question denied throwing the stone, backed up by all his little thuggish friends!

This experience leads me to wonder what the motivation was for the attack? Since I've never seen the local lads wandering around Loughanure carrying hurley sticks, I have to conclude that this attack was pre-planned. Then I have to wonder why?

I don't, and wont, condone an attack on a bunch of kids with Hurley sticks - but I have a feeling that there is more to this story that meets the eye.
Whatever the case, I hope the kids who were injured make a good recovery.

Noreen

El Siglo

I'd get Mossad after these little fuckers.:pac:

I went to the Gaeltacht on one of those courses as well back in the day, didn't encounter any local youths because they had the sense to head to Mary I or St. Pat's and become primary school teachers.

It's like something out of the deep south in America, fucking degenerates.

moonpurple

recent donegal news

2 cents worth:

mcbreartys
no to lisbon twice
taliban catholic haters (Dana)
sectarian
narrow view of world
beat dubliner youngster with hurley until skin broken
homegrown view of road law
men jailed for exploiting 12 year old girl who had no family therefore: unprotected because in Donegal it is 'de family' and civil law does not apply
Current minister for education

/shuts down computer and runs out into street:pac:

genericguy

monkeypants wrote: »

Scraping the barrel for reasons to start a fight!

honest to god, this is the type of shít i get up there. i was at a wedding last year, and i got "look at the dub with his pointy shoes and his suit", by some prick who was also wearing a suit. arsehole. later when i was in the toilet, some cnut at the pisser beside me asked me why i bother coming where my type are not wanted. said cnut, i have been informed this week, is moving to dublin because it's the only place where there are jobs. i wonder fcuking why?

girlfriend's brother asked how my work was going, when another 20-something family member interjected and said "shoor dohmind that hi, tis not work unless you get darty". yep, only in that hole can you be a second-class citizen if you don't do menial labour to make a living.

the attitude of donegal's youth to outsiders is fcuking ridiculous, and can be nothing other than jealousy in my view. they're nothing but redneck apes with no prospects having never left mammy's house, and who spend the day racing around they're little villages of 50 people with 50 pubs.

and, btw, i am aware that i'm generalising, and that there are some good people in donegal. however, the concentration of pricks up there is extraordinarily high compared to anywhere else i've ever been.