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French Top 14 starts 13th August

  • 05-08-2010 8:56am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭


    The French Top 14 season starts on Friday 13th August with Perpignan vs Clermont but for me, of course, the only match of real interest is the clash of Jonny Wilkinson's Toulon against Bayonne on Saturday 14th at Stade Félix-Mayol, Toulon.
    Jonny is currently carrying a slight shoulder injury but is expected to be passed fit for this game. Incidentally contractual agreements with Toulon have resulted in him not being released to the England training camp see here:

    http://www.scrum.com/england/rugby/story/120879.html

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Toulon are my adopted team this season so "Let's go!, Jonny, Let's go!"

    Who are the rights holders this season?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭Ciaran-Irl


    Like a lot of Leinster fans, I turned into a bit of a Clermont fan last year.

    Alléz les jaune et bleu!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    3 weeks earlier than our guys!
    Maybe we should look at this with a week or 2 off for Christmas, saying that I love having a few games to go to over the Christmas break.
    Such nice weather to be playing rugby compared to December.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭Ciaran-Irl


    buck65 wrote: »
    3 weeks earlier than our guys!
    Maybe we should look at this with a week or 2 off for Christmas, saying that I love having a few games to go to over the Christmas break.
    Such nice weather to be playing rugby compared to December.

    They had a good bit of time last Xmas with the frozen pitches, but it didn't seem to do them much good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭leinsterrugby


    is any match on tv 2day?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭wonton


    is any match on tv 2day?



    sharks vs lions sky sports 4 16.00


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,246 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Toulon are my adopted team this season so "Let's go!, Jonny, Let's go!"

    Who are the rights holders this season?

    For TV? Setanta and ESPN.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭funky penguin


    Ciaran-Irl wrote: »
    Like a lot of Leinster fans, I turned into a bit of a Clermont fan last year.

    Alléz les jaune et bleu!

    Me too! There fans were absolutely brilliant, and can't wait for this year's match ups in the HC!

    Will be cheering them on in the T14, best of luck to them!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭leinsterrugby


    ha i thought 2day was the 13th. cant wait for next week top 14 is my fave league.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    Contepomi heaps praise on Wilkinson

    http://www.scrum.com/francetop14-2010-11/rugby/story/121041.html

    A fit and firing Jonny Wilkinson has been hailed as the "greatest player of his generation" by team-mate Felipe Contepomi who insists the England fly-half can steer Toulon to Top 14 glory.

    In his first season in French rugby's top flight, Wilkinson helped steer Le Toulonnais to the Top 14 semi-finals where they were edged out by eventual winners Clermont Auvergne in an epic clash but Contepomi is confident his side can clinch the Bouclier de Brennus this season with their in-form playmaker at the helm.

    "I think Jonny is one of the best if not the best player of our generation," insisted Argentinean international fly-half who, like Wilkinson, made the switch to the south of France last year. "It is a great pleasure for me to play with him. Apart from being a great player he is a gentleman and I enjoyed last year although I was injured a lot but even training with him is a pleasure and you can always learn from people like him."

    Such is Contepomi's respect for his team-mate he is happy to play second fiddle to Wilkinson when it comes to the Toulon No.10 shirt. "For us he is a huge asset," added Contepomi, who won the last of his 68 Test caps in the Pumas' victory over France in June. "He had a great year last season with Toulon and is one of those players everyone looks to play against and we are lucky enough to play with him.

    "But it's not about Jonny or Felipe or whoever - it is about the team. He is the best kicker and so he kicks. If I have to play 12 or 10 I will always do my best for the team. That is the culture we have here and it is one I like. It's been a good pre-season for the team as a whole and we're looking forward to the new season when hopefully the work we're putting in now will pay off."

    While Wilkinson returned to top form in the Top 14 last season, being named the best fly-half in France by respected rugby newspaper Midi Olympique, his form dipped on the international stage and was dropped in favour of Toby Flood. But Contepomi believes that England boss Martin Johnson may be guilty of wasting Wilkinson's talent.

    "Maybe if you have a player like Jonny you should adapt to play a game to what he likes," suggested Contepomi. "Maybe he's not having much of an input on what England should do. It's the same in football. People criticise Lionel Messi for playing well for Barcelona and not playing well for Argentina. But it's not that he's a different player - it's maybe that he's badly used for Argentina.

    "Obviously England have their own way of playing and Martin Johnson is a very intelligent man and he knows what he is trying to do but I think the important thing is that Jonny is happy playing here with a smile on his face and I'm not sure if he is that happy with England."

    Wilkinson, who has embraced life in the south of France since his move last summer, is as focused as ever on producing his best and is relishing the chance to prove his critics wrong by reminding them of his ability to dictate a fast-paced running game.

    "This year I am hoping that we can play a way that I have always enjoyed, moving the ball, with options everywhere," said Wilkinson. "The worst feeling you can have on a rugby field is be narrowed down to one or two choices and both of them being the wrong options.

    "Under the new rules [breakdown interpretations] you feel like if there is half a chance you can have a go whereas last year that would not have been enough to risk it."

    While dismissing a suggestion he was happier within the club environment than he was on England duty, the 31-year-old Wilkinson admitted he did enjoyed the chance pass on his experience to the Toulon's next generation of players.

    "I've been through a lot and am now trying to give that back to some of the younger guys," revealed Wilkinson. "I am trying to find a way to move that on before my time is up. It's not so easy to do that at international level because it's all about selection whereas club level provides me with the chance to be involved every day and help other guys. It's a different kind of fulfilment than that which you get with international rugby where you enjoy tackling something at the very top level."

    Happiness and form appear to go hand-in-hand when it comes to Wilkinson and no-one knows that better than his coach Philippe Saint-Andre who also considers his star fly-half a "champion".

    "Jonny is very happy, and he seems to love each minute," said the former international winger who has been impressed by Wilkinson's pre-season form. "Last week [against Racing Metro] he played 40 minutes and was fantastic, in defence, attack and kicking. I'm sure if he wanted to stay here everybody would love it but it would also be fantastic for the group because he works hard for the team. He is not a selfish man, he is a champion."


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    Somehow I or Scrum.com got the dates mixed-up and most of the first phase of Top 14 games start tonight. The Toulon vs Bayonne game is 6pm but I can't find any TV listing for it, and anyway Jonny is rested so Felipe Contepomi starts ahead of him. A few more details below:

    http://frenchrugbyclub.com/Top-14/Top-14-2010-11/Top-14-Round-01-Preview-001096.html

    Toulon start 2010/11 as many people’s favourites to win their first French title since 1992 this season, but they will be without fly-half Jonny Wilkinson for their opening home match against Bayonne.

    The 31-year-old was fit enough to start, but team manager Tom Whitford said Toulon had opted to rest Wilkinson as Top 14 rules stipulate that players involved in summer internationals are only allowed to play two of the opening three league games. That means Argentina’s Felipe Contepomi will begin at No 10, but Toulon will surely have enough quality to brush aside a Bayonne side looking to improve vastly on last year’s poor form.

    Toulon – who are also without first-choice scrum-half Pierre Mignoni - will hand debuts to a number of major summer signings, including prop Carl Hayman, winger Paul Sackey, lock Dean Schofield and flanker George Smith as they seek to build on their unbeaten pre-season form.

    Bayonne‘s cause has not been helped by injuries to captain Remy Martin and new signings Joe Pietersen and Troy Flavell, while Ross Filippo’s late withdrawal has further hit their plans. Former Bourgoin fly-half Benjamin Boyet makes his debut alongside scrum-half partner Julien Audy.
    The Toulouse vs Agen game is televised and is on at 17.45 tonight - I feel a trip to the Antique coming on. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    Toulouse ran in 6 tries against a hapless Agen who managed three of their own. The final score 44-24 to Toulouse. Some great running and handling by Toulouse but in the final quarter the game lost its shape and was a poor spectacle. The one lesson of today for any team playing Toulouse is keep the ball away from them as they will run it from anywhere.

    Meanwhile Toulon (minus Jonny Wilkinson) struggled with Felipe Contepomi scoring 17 of his sides 22 points but it was not enough and they unexpectedly went down 22-26 to Bayonne. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Wow, that's a shock.

    Toulon are fancied as outright winners this season.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    Perpignan beat Clermont Auvergne 21-13 in an ill tempered affair which saw Vilaceca (a sub for Perpignan) red carded for stamping in the 70th minute and the Claremont captain Vermeulen received a yellow four minutes before the end. It was a game played with great intensity by both sides but with masses of handling errors and Brock James missed a couple of sitters. At times the whistle happy ref seemed near to losing control and by the final whistle ....:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭PhatPiggins


    Perpignan beat Clermont Auvergne 21-13 in an ill tempered affair which saw Vilaceca (a sub for Perpignan) red carded for stamping in the 70th minute and the Claremont captain Vermeulen received a yellow four minutes before the end. It was a game played with great intensity by both sides but with masses of handling errors and Brock James missed a couple of sitters. At times the whistle happy ref seemed near to losing control and by the final whistle ....:D

    Brock James missing sitters :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Clermont could have won that and yet they leave with nothing. James can take most of the credit.

    Clermont have a raft of first team players to come back yet.

    Perpignan had a fly-half injury crisis coming into the game and it looks to have gotten worse now after David Mele was carried off. They signed Manny Edmonds as a 'medical joker', looks like he could have a big role to play for a while.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭wonton


    anyone see that savage trysaver from the toulouse player on against the agaen player where he just popped the ball out of his hands when they where over the try line, it was classic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭leinsterrugby


    i fckin hate clermont. lost my accum :(:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    http://www.rugby365.com/tournaments/top14/news/2557960.htm

    On 14 August 2010, France's Top 14 starts, reputedly the wealthiest club competition in the world. The squads are formed and the clubs now head for warm-up matches. Many of the players in the Top 14 are foreigners.

    Agen

    Fullbacks: Florent Cazeaux (France), Brice Dulin (France), Romain Edmond-Samuel (France)
    Wings: Osea Kolinisau (Fiji), Kevin Swiryn (USA), Saïmoni Vaka (Fiji)
    Centres: Manu Ahotaeiloa (Tonga), Miguel Avramovic (Argentina), Rupeni Caucaunibuca (Fiji), Daniel Duplessis (South Africa), Junior Pelesasa (Australia), Benjamin Petre (France)
    Flyhalves: Conrad Barnard (South Africa), Valentin Courrent (France), Mathieu Lamoulie (France)
    Scrumhalves: Alexi Bales (France), Yoan Chateauraynaud (France), Sylvain Dupuy (France), Maxime Machenaud (France)
    Loose forwards: Uelenitoni Fono (Tonga), Opeti Fonua (Tonga), Jérôme Mondoulet (France), Jean Monribot (France), John O'Sullivan (Ireland)
    Locks: Adri Badenhorst (South Africa), Cyril Chavet (France), Lisiate Fa'aoso (Tonga), Damien Lagrange (France), Thibault Lassalle (France), Andrew Springgay (England)
    Hookers: Brice Mach (France), Jalil Narjissi (Marocco), Semisi Telefoni (Tonga)
    Props: Laurent Cabarry (France), Karim Kouider (France), Mosese Moala (Tonga), Gert Muller (South Africa), Arsène Nnomo (Camneroon), Béka Sheklashvili (Georgia)
    Coaches: Christophe Deylaud (France), Christian Lanta (France),

    Bayonne

    Fullbacks:
    Elgoyhen Bernard (France), Pépito Elhorga (France), Jean-Baptiste Peyras-Loustalet (France), Joe Pietersen (South Africa)
    Wings: Sam Gerber (South Africa), Yoann Huget (France), Clément Lagain (France)
    Centres: Craig Gower (Australia), Thibault Lacroix (France), Lionel Mazars (France), Garth Ziegler (Switzerland)
    Flyhalves: Sylvain Bouillon (France), Benjamin Boyet (France), Sébastien Fauque (France)
    Scrumhalves: Julien Audy (France), Cédric Garcia (France)
    Loose forwards: Marc Baget (France), Guillaume Bernad (France), Abdellatif Boutaty (Marocco), Dwayne Haare (New Zealand), Jean-Jo Marmouyet (France), Rémy Martin (France), Julien Puricelli (France)
    Locks: Emilien Attia (France), Ross Filipo (New Zealand), Troy Flavell (New Zealand), Rob Linde (South Africa), Cameron Treolar (Australia)
    Hookers: François Da Ros (France), Arnaud Heguy (France), David Roumieu (France)
    Props: Denis Avril (France), Clément Baiocco (France), Renaud Boyoud (France), Walter Desmaison (France), Aretz Iguiniz (France), Pierre-Philippe Lafond (France), Tonga Lea'aetoa (Tonga)
    Coaches: Christian Gajan (France), Thomas Lièvremont (France), Frédéric Tauzin (France)

    Biarritz

    Fullbacks: Iain Balshaw (England), Paul Couet-Lannes (France),
    Wings: Philippe Bidabé (France), Ilikena Bolakoro (Fiji), Jean Baptiste Gobelet (France), Takudzwa Ngwenya (Zimbabwe)
    Centres: Ayoola Erinle (England), Yann Fior (France), Charles Gimenez (France), Arnaud Mignardi (France), Damien Traille (France), Laurent Tranier (France)
    Flyhalves: Jean-Pascal Barraque (France), Marcelo Bosch (Argentina), Julien Peyrelongue (France)
    Scrumhalves: Adrien Ayestaran (France), Yann Lesgourgues (France), Dimitri Yachvili (France)
    Loose forwards: Fabien Alexandre (France), Florian Faure (France), Benoit Guyot (France), Imanol Harinordoquy (France), Raphaël Lakafia (France), Wenceslas Lauret (France), Magnus Lund (England), Tanguy Molcard (France), Samiu Vahafolau (Tonga)
    Locks: Manuel Carizza (Argentina), Erik Lund (Norway), Mathias Marie (France), Jean-Baptiste Roidot (France), Pelu Taele-Pavihi (Samoa), Jérome Thion (France)
    Hookers: Benoît August (France), Benjamin Geledan (France), Antonin Raffault (France), Romain Terrain (France)
    Props: Xabi Argagnon (France), Fabien Barcella (France), Alexandre Barozzi (France), Eduard Coetzee (South Africa), Campbell Johnstone (New Zealand), Thomas Lebrequier (France), Sylvain Marconnet (France)
    Coaches: Jean-Michel Gonzalez (France), Jack Isaac (Australia), Laurent Rodriguez (France),

    Brive

    Fullbacks: Julien Caminati (France), Alexis Palisson (France), Scott Spedding (South Africa)
    Wings: Mathias Atayi (France), Mathieu Besson (France), Nicolas Jeanjean (France), Viliame Waqaceduadua (New Zealand
    Centres: Ronnie Cooke (South Africa), Régis Lespinas (France), Guillaume Namy (France), Jamie Noon (England)
    Flyhalves: Fabrice Estebanez (France), Luciano Orquera (Argentina)
    Scrumhalves: Mathieu Bélie (France), Jean-Baptiste Pejoine (France), Shaun Perry (England)
    Loose forwards: Simon Azoulai (France), Antonie Claassen (South Africa), Fabien Domingo (France), Vincent Forgues (France), Alix Popham (Wales), Gerhard Vosloo (South Africa), |
    Locks: Damien Browne (Ireland), Thibault Dubarry (France), Julien Ledevedec (France), Arnaud Mela (France), Retief Uys (South Africa)
    Hookers: Jean-Philippe Bonrepaux (France), Benoit Cabello (France), Guillaume Ribes (France)
    Props: Pat Barnard (South Africa), Pablo Cardinali (Argentina), Pablo Henn (Argentina), Pascal Idieder (France), Vasil Kakovin (Georgia), Davit Khinchagishvili (Georgia)
    Coaches: Didier Casadéi (France), Christophe Laussucq (France), Ugo Mola (France)

    Clermont Auvergne

    Fullbacks: Anthony Floch (France), Brent Russell (South Africa)
    Wings: Wesley Fofana (France), Jérémie Malzieu (France), Julien Malzieu (France), Napolioni Nalaga (Fiji), Aurélien Rougerie (France),
    Centres: Benoît Baby (France), Gonzalo Canale (Italy), Marius Joubert (South Africa), Gavin Williams (New Zealand)
    Flyhalves: Brock James (Australia), Tasesa Lavea (New Zealand)
    Scrumhalves: Morgan Parra (France), Ludovic Radosavljevic (France), Kevin Senio (New Zealand)
    Loose forwards: Alexandre Audebert (France), Julien Bardy (Portugal), Julien Bonnaire (France), Alexandre Lapandry (France), Elvis Vermeulen (France), Jason White (Scotland)
    Locks: Jamie CudmoreCAN Loïc Jacquet (France), Julien Pierre (France), Thibault Privat (France), Christophe Samson (France),
    Hookers: Mario Ledesma (Argentina), Willie Wepener (South Africa)
    Props: Vincent Debaty (France), Thomas Domingo (France), Lionel Faure (France), Marco Ferrer (France), Clément Ric (France), Martin Scelzo (Argentina), Davit Zirakashvili (Georgia)
    Coaches: Franck Azema (France), Vern Cotter (New Zealand), Alex King (England),

    Bourgoin

    Fullbacks: Anthony Forest (France), Maël Moinot (France), Silvère Tian (Cote d'Ivoire)
    Wings: Walter Argoud (France), Rudi Coetzee (South Africa), Jean-François Coux (France), Nemani Nadolo (Fiji), Grégory Paquelet (France), Brando Va'aulu (New Zealand)
    Centres: Alexandre Dumoulin (France), David Janin (France), Piet Van Zyl (South Africa), Mattias Viazzo (France)
    Flyhalves: Alberto Di Bernardo (Argentina), Sebastien Laloo (France)
    Scrumhalves: Mickaël Campeggia (France), Mickael Forest (France), Jérémy Gondrand (France),
    Loose forwards: Tim Cowley (New Zealand), Julien Frier (France), Thomas Genevois (France), Jérémy Guillot (France), Yann Labrit (France), Bogdan Leonte (Romania), Sébastien Mazet (France), Alex Tulou (Samoa)
    Locks: Coenie Basson (South Africa), Wessel Jooste (South Africa), Camille Levast (France), Albin Louchard (France), Bryce Williams (New Zealand)
    Hookers: Julien Janaudy (France), Tone Alefa Kopelani (New Zealand), Jordan Merle (France), Rémy Vigneaux (France)
    Props: Sylvain Charlet (France), Ruan du Preez (South Africa), Erwan Iapteff (France), Olivier Milloud (France), Grégory Pautard (France), Vincent Pelo (France), Arnauld Tchougong (Cameroon), Karena Wihongi (New Zealand)
    Coaches: Eric Catinot (France), Xavier Péméja (France)

    La Rochelle

    Fullbacks: Jerry Lee Bernard (France), Sébastien Boboul (France), Peter Durcan (Ireland), Romain Lacoste (France), Baptiste Saparrart (France)
    Wings: Camille Canivet (France), Maxime Lebourhis (France), Etienne Leobet (France), Norman Ligairi (Fiji), Florian Ninard (France),
    Centres: Thomas Combezou (France), Guillaume Devade (France), Jérôme Jacquet (France), Sébastien Morel (France), Vincent Roux (France),
    Flyhalves: Benjamin Dambielle (France), Remy Tales (France)
    Scrumhalves: . Bourron (France), Benjamin Ferrou (France), Damien Neveu (France)
    Loose forwards: Romain Carmignani (France), Quentin D'Aram de Valada (France), Nicolas Djebaili (France), Franck Jacob (France), Peio Som (France), Thomas Soucaze (France)
    Locks: Cobus Grobler (South Africa), David McGowan (Ireland), Robert Mohr (Germany), Clément Praud (France)
    Hookers: Kévin Le Guen (France), Franco Pani (Argentina)
    Props: Alexandre Bares (France), Andreas Bordoy (Argentina), Nicolas Brindel (France), Stéphane Clément (France), Romain Frou (France), Jonathan Garcia (France), Gaëtan Guyon (France), Tamato Leupolu (Samoa)
    Coaches: David Daricarrère (France), Serge Milhas (France)

    Montpellier

    Fullbacks: Jean-Mathieu Alcalde (France), Olivier Sarraméa (France), Jacques Schutte (South Africa), Robin Solana (France), Benjamin Thiery (France)
    Wings: Jacques Boussuge (France), Thierry Brana (France), Manoel Dall'Igna (France), Sébastien Kuzbik (France), Sébastien Max (France), Adrien Pratmarty (France)
    Centres: Sylvain Mirande (France), Florian Nicot (France), Grant Rees (South Africa), Ollie Smith England)
    Flyhalves: Raphaël Lagarde (France), Frederico Todeschini (Argentina), François Trinh-Duc (France)
    Scrumhalves: Arnaud Solis (France), Adrien Tomas (France), Julien Tomas (France)
    Loose forwards: Vassili Bost (France), Marc Giraud (France), Sakiusa Matadigo (Fiji), Fulgence Ouedraogo (Burkina Faso), Jérome Vallée (France), Johan Wasserman (South Africa)
    Locks: Alister Campbell (Australia), Mickaël De Marco (France), Mamuka Gorgodze (Georgia), Benjamin Goze (France), Drickus Hancke (South Africa), Michel Macurdy (France)
    Hookers: Joan Caudullo (France), Mickael Ladhuie (France), Fabien Rofes (France),
    Props: Bruce Douglas (Scotland), Juan Figallo (Argentina), Giorgi Jgenti (France), Kevin Kervarec (France), Na'ama Leleimalefaga (Samoa), Sébastien Petit (France), Danie Thiart (South Africa), Olivier Tissot (France), Philémon Toleafoa (Samoa), Pietman van Niekerk (South Africa), Eugene van Staden (South Africa)
    Coaches: Didier Bès (France), Warren Britz (South Africa), Jean-Philippe Lacoste (France)

    Perpignan

    Fullbacks: Philip Burger (South Africa), Jeoffrey Michel (France), Jérôme Porical (France)
    Wings: Armand Battle (France), Julien Candelon (France), Adrien Planté (France), Farid Sid (France)
    Centres: Julien Fritz (France), Jean-Philippe Grandclaude (France), Gavin Hume (South Africa), David Marty (France), Maxime Mermoz (France)
    Flyhalves: Thomas Bosc (France), Nicolas Laharrague (France)
    Scrumhalves: Kevin Boulogne (France), Florian Cazenave (France), David Mélé (France)
    Loose forwards: Gerrie Britz (South Africa), Damien Chouly (France), Bertrand Guiry (France), Grégory Le Corvec (France), Jean-Pierre Pérez (France), Ovidiu Tonita (Roumania), Henry Tuilagi (Samoa), Yohan Vivalda (France)
    Locks: Rimas Alvarez Kairelis (Argentina), Olivier Olibeau (France), Romain Taofifenua (France), Robins Tchale-Watchou (Cameroon), Guillaume Vilaceca (France)
    Hookers: Charles Géli (France), Guilhem Guirado (France), Marius Tincu (Romania)
    Props: Benoît Bourrust (France), Perry Freshwater (England), Nicolas Mas (France), Kisi Pulu (Tonga), Jérôme Schuster (France)
    Coaches: Jacques Brunel (France), Bernard Goutta (France), Christophe Manas (France)

    Racing-Métro

    Fullbacks: Greg Goosen (South Africa), Dan Scarbrough (England), Francois Steyn (South Africa), Brent Ward (New Zealand),
    Wings: Sireli Bobo (Fiji), Benjamin Fall (France), Sefulu GaugauASA Bernard Leroux (South Africa), Julien Saubade (France), Mani Vakaola (Tonga), Albert VuliVuli (Fiji)
    Centres: Mirco Bergamasco (Italy), Henry Chavancy (France), Andrea Masi (Italy), Epi Taione (Tonga)
    Flyhalves: Willen le Roux (South Africa), Andrew Mehrtens (New Zealand), Jonathan Wisniewski (France)
    Scrumhalves: Nic Berry (France), Nicolas Durand (France), Jérome Fillol (France)
    Loose forwards: Ashley Clarke (South Africa), Jacques Cronjé (South Africa), Fabrice Culine (France), Alvaro Galindo (Argentina), Johnny Leo'o (New Zealand), Jone Qovu (Fiji), Rémy Vaquin (France)
    Locks: Sébastien Chabal (France), Santiago Dellape (Italy), Lionel Nallet (France), Simon Raiwalui (Fiji), François Van Der Merwe (South Africa),
    Hookers: Olivier Diomandé (France), Carlo Festuccia (Italy), Benjamin Noirot (France)
    Props: Andrea Lo Cicero (Italy), Mehdi Mérabet (France), Juan-Pablo Orlandi (Argentina), Craig Smith (Scotland), Mikaele TuugahalaWLF Scott ZimmermanSouth Africa)
    Coaches: Pierre Berbizier (France), Simon MannixNZ

    Stade Français

    Fullbacks: Hugo Bonneval (France), Martin Rodriguez Gurruchaga (Argentina), Hugo Southwell (Scotland),
    Wings: Julien Arias (France), Djibril Camara (France), Ollie Phillips (England), Romain Raine (France)
    Centres: Mathieu Bastareaud (France), Guillaume Boussès (France), Brian Liebenberg (France), Gonzalo Tiesi (Argentina), Quentin Valançon (France)
    Flyhalves: Aristide Barraud (France), Lionel Beauxis (France), Jules Plisson (France)
    Scrumhalves: Julien Dupuy (France), Noel Herman Oelschig (South Africa), Benjamin Tardy (France),
    Loose forwards: Mauro Bergamasco (Italy), Antoine Burban (France), Romain Dibel (France), James Haskell (England), Juan Manuel Leguizamon (Argentina), Sergio Parisse (Italy), Pierre Rabadan (France)
    Locks: Julien Flanquart (France), Santiago Guzman (Argentina), Arnaud Marchois (France), Tom Palmer (England), Pascal Papé (France), Danny Wright (England),
    Hookers: Rémi Bonfils (France), Laurent Sempéré (France), Dimitri Szarzewski (France)
    Props: David Attoub (France), Rayno Gerber (South Africa), Arthur Joly (France), Pedro Ledesma (Argentina), Rodrigo Roncero (Argentina), Rabah Slimani (France), Damien Weber (France)
    Coaches: Michael Cheika (Ireland), Didier Faugeron (France)

    Toulon

    Fullbacks: Benjamin Lapeyre (France)
    Wings: Rory Lamont (Scotland), Clément Marienval (France), Luke Rooney (Australia), Jérémy Sinzelle (France), Khaled Zagar (France)
    Centres: Mafiléo Kefu (Australia), Christian LoamanuJPN Gabiriele Lovobalavu (Fiji), Tom May (England), Geoffroy Messina (France), Tusi PisiASA ames Peter Robinson (Wales), Sonny Bill Williams (New Zealand)
    Flyhalves: Romain Barthélémy (France), Felipe Contepomi (Argentina), Jonny Wilkinson (England)
    Scrumhalves: Fabien Cibray (France), Anthony Giacobazzi (France), Matthew Henjak (Australia), Pierre Mignoni (France)
    Loose forwards: Fotunuupule Auelua (New Zealand), Cédric Beal (France), Kristian Chesney (England), César Delarue (France), Joe El Abd (England), Juan Martin Fernandez Lobbe (Argentina), Olivier Missoup (France), Heino Senekal (Namibia), Thomas Sourice (France), Joe van Niekerk (South Africa)
    Locks: Esteban LozadaBEL Dewald Meyer Senekal (South Africa), Ross Carson Skeate (South Africa), Jocelino Sutavan
    Hookers: Sébastien Bruno (France), Jawad Djoudi (Marocco), Philipp Fitzgerald (Scotland), Jean-Philippe Genevois (France), Jean-Charles Orioli (France)
    Props: Nicolas Agnesi (France), Benjamin Bastères (France), Laurent Emmanuelli (France), Davit Kubriashvili (Georgia), Timothy Ryan (Ireland), Saimone Taumoepeau (Tonga)
    Coaches: Aubin Hueber (France), Philippe Saint-André (France), Tana Umaga (New Zealand)

    Toulouse

    Fullbacks: Maxime Médard (France), Clément Poitrenaud (France)
    Wings: Vincent Clerc (France), Vilimoni Delasau (Fiji), Yves Donguy (France), Cédric Heymans (France), Pierre-Gilles Lakafia (France),
    Centres: Yann David (France), Florian Fritz (France), Yannick Jauzion (France), Rémi Lamerat (France)
    Flyhalves: Jean-Marc Doussain (France), Frédéric Michalak (France), David Skrela (France)
    Scrumhalves: Nicolas Bézy (France), Byron Kelleher (New Zealand), Nicolas Vergallo (Argentina)
    Loose forwards: Jean Bouilhou (France), Thierry Dusautoir (France), Sylvain Nicolas (France), Yannick Nyanga (France), Louis Picamoles (France), Shaun Sowerby (South Africa), Laurent Thuéry (France)
    Locks: Patricio Albacete (Argentina), Ruslan Boukerou (France), Grégory Lamboley (France), Yoann Maestri (France), Romain Millo-Chluski (France)
    Hookers: Virgile Lacombe (France), William Servat (France), Alberto Vernet Basualdo (Argentina)
    Props: Anthony Bousquet (France), Charles Givone (France), Daan Human (South Africa), Census Johnston (Samoa), Benoît Lecouls (France), Yohann Montes (France), Jean-Baptiste Poux (France)
    Coaches: Yannick Bru (France), Jean-Baptiste Elissalde (France), Guy Novès (France)

    Edit: There's a few errors there, a lot of off season departures are still included but it will give you some idea I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Perpignan

    Fullbacks: Philip Burger (South Africa), Jeoffrey Michel (France), Jérôme Porical (France)
    Wings: Armand Battle (France), Julien Candelon (France), Adrien Planté (France), Farid Sid (France)
    Centres: Julien Fritz (France), Jean-Philippe Grandclaude (France), Gavin Hume (South Africa), David Marty (France), Maxime Mermoz (France)
    Flyhalves: Thomas Bosc (France), Nicolas Laharrague (France)
    Scrumhalves: Kevin Boulogne (France), Florian Cazenave (France), David Mélé (France)
    Loose forwards: Gerrie Britz (South Africa), Damien Chouly (France), Bertrand Guiry (France), Grégory Le Corvec (France), Jean-Pierre Pérez (France), Ovidiu Tonita (Roumania), Henry Tuilagi (Samoa), Yohan Vivalda (France)
    Locks: Rimas Alvarez Kairelis (Argentina), Olivier Olibeau (France), Romain Taofifenua (France), Robins Tchale-Watchou (Cameroon), Guillaume Vilaceca (France)
    Hookers: Charles Géli (France), Guilhem Guirado (France), Marius Tincu (Romania)
    Props: Benoît Bourrust (France), Perry Freshwater (England), Nicolas Mas (France), Kisi Pulu (Tonga), Jérôme Schuster (France)
    Coaches: Jacques Brunel (France), Bernard Goutta (France), Christophe Manas (France)

    Edit: There's a few errors there, a lot of off season departures are still included but it will give you some idea I suppose.

    Thought he played league?
    Fly half situation must be getting to Perpingian.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭Blarney92


    wonton wrote: »
    anyone see that savage trysaver from the toulouse player on against the agaen player where he just popped the ball out of his hands when they where over the try line, it was classic.

    There's a website called Rugbydump which posts a load of highlights of these sort of incidents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,459 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    wonton wrote: »
    anyone see that savage trysaver from the toulouse player on against the agaen player where he just popped the ball out of his hands when they where over the try line, it was classic.

    for those who didnt see



    Nicely done by heymans

    all i can say to the Agen winger is...eh served!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    Yes the boy is back at last! The moment you all I have been waiting for since the dismal end of Toulon's promising, but ultimately disappointing, Top 14 and Amlin Cup campaigns last season. Contepomi is rested and Jonno is back but it's a tall order for Toulon away to Biarritz and they go into this match as underdogs.

    SETANTA SPORTS 20.00

    Previews here of Toulon (below) and the rest of the games: http://frenchrugbyclub.com/Top-14/Top-14-2010-11/Top-14-Round-02-Preview-001101.html

    The match of the round sees the big guns return - for both sides - as Biarritz play host to big-spending Toulon at the Parcs des Sports Aguiléra on Friday night. The Basques welcome back talisman Imanol Harinordoquy after a rib injury forced him to miss out against Montpellier, while Toulon have recalled jettisoned England fly-half Jonny Wilkinson after he was rested for their shock home defeat by Bayonne. Head coach Philippe Saint-André tried to play down the significance of that result afterwards, but as one of his pre-season aims was to ensure an unbeaten record at the Stade Felix Mayol then his words had a certain emptiness. There is no doubt the defeat hurt Toulon badly so PSA will be looking for a massive response for his well remunerated troops. Wilkinson's boot should help give them a platform and the new wingers Rudi Wulf and Paul Sackey will also be hoping to see more of the ball as Toulon try to deliver on their previously stated aim of a more enterprising game. Scrum-half Pierre Mignoni also returns from injury to boost the visitors, but they will still be without a number of influential players - Joe Van Niekerk, Rory Lamont, Juan Fernandez Lobbe and Felipe Contepomi - due to a combination of injuries and rest. "We've got to move up a gear, that's for sure," admitted PSA this week. Biarritz also have their own injury problems, most notably following a ruptured Achilles for prop Fabien Barcella, but bad boy Takudzwa Ngwenya should return after an internal suspension for breach of club discipline last week. Coach Jack Isaac is wary of a Toulon backlash - "We are going to prepare for it with a little bit of fear in our bellies and perhaps that will help us rise to the challenge," he said this week - but this could be a humdinger of an encounter down on the Atlantic coast. Ride the wave or be dumped - that's the choice facing Toulon.
    Last season: Biarritz 23 Toulon 9
    Verdict: Biarritz win

    My verdict: Toulon by a whisker courtesy of Jonny's boot. Fingers crossed. :D

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    GO JONNY, GO!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    Wow some match. Played at ferocious pace and more handling errors than you could shake a big stick at. It wasn't until the 70th minute when Bourgoin's had a Jean-Francois Coux (11) yellow carded that the wheels came off their wagon with Clermont running in three tries in the last 10 minutes. Up until the sending off Bourgoin had been leading 12-6 and looked well capable of winning. Parra was doing the kicking for Clermont rather than Brock James and this was probably decisive as he only missed one conversion.

    Remember what's up next.....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭Risteard


    Great covering tackle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    7-3 to Toulon at halftime - they failed to capitalise on all their territorial advantage in the first twenty minutes when they should have got in for at least one try.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    67 minutes and Biarritz strike their colours as Imanol Harinordoquy is called ashore. :D 13-3 to Toulon so far. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    And so it stayed 13-3 to Toulon. A dour affair in which Toulon's scrum creaked woefully, Balshaw did his usual and Biarritz seemed to go backwards every time they had the ball. If Toulon had had a little more luck they would have won by even more. A good win on the road and against expectations. Jonny's strike rate was 50% (a conversion, a penalty and a drop goal) and his Garryowen was responsible for Toulon's try. He'll be back. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Not a great game was it?

    Still, that's a big result for les rouges et noirs and they have Contepomi to come back in at 12 to add some creativity and Van Niekerk and Lobbe in the back row.

    Surprised that the Toulon scrum was poor, considering Hayman's pedigree. Then again his opposite number Marconnet isn't too shabby.

    Gotta love Balshaw don't ya? If the word 'fail' described a player...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Castres vs Toulouse on Sellotanta right now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    Preview of Toulon match from: http://frenchrugbyclub.com/

    Ambitious Toulon have had a tough start to the 2010/11 campaign, and Friday's home clash against equally ambitious Racing will surely prove no different. While multi-millionaire presidents Mourad Boudjellal and Jacky Lorenzetti spend the evening comparing their bulging portfolios the Stade Félix Mayol will play host to some of the biggest names in world rugby as Toulon and Racing go head-to-head. The star-studded home side will feature the likes of Jonny Wilkinson, George Smith, Carl Hayman, Juan Fernandez Lobbe and club captain Joe Van Niekerk (for the first time this season), while Racing start with Sébastien Chabal, Lionel Nallet, a fit-again Benjamin Fall and Mirco Bergamasco. They have also named Argentine playmaker Juan Hernández on the bench as 'El Mago' is set to make his belated club debut. Indeed, both sides will be chocked full with talent, although as Toulon have proved in their first two games it is the collective quality and spirit of a side which really matters. Their opening day home defeat by Bayonne brought an effective response as Biarritz last weekend - where they won for the first time in 29 years - while Racing are embarking on the third of three successive away games. Victory at Brive on the opening day was followed by a positive start at Montpellier, but Pierre Berbizier's side faded badly in the second half and were ultimately humbled 36-19 after having led 0-13. A defensive bonus away to Toulon would normally be considered a fair return, but after Bayonne's shock win at the Mayol other teams may now fancy their chances. If Racing are to triumph they will have to do so without Francois Steyn, who is way on Springbok duty, so the combined boots of Wilkinson, Jonathan Wisniewski and Hernández are likely to play crucial roles.
    Last season: Toulon 27 Racing-Métro 13
    Verdict: Toulon win
    The rest of the Top 14 Round 3 is also previewed at the above website.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    Toulousain! Allez, allez, allez! Allez, allez, allez! Allez, allez, allez!

    Les parisiens are in Toulouse this weekend. Should be unreal. ST gave them a hiding in both of the last two encounters.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭leinsterrugby


    hi guys help me with my accum 4 the weekend?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    hi guys help me with my accum 4 the weekend?

    Stay away from rugby accums is my advice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭PhatPiggins


    hi guys help me with my accum 4 the weekend?

    Might help if you posted what it is on the betting thread


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Toulon 9 Racing 16 with 29 minutes gone.

    Leinster fans watch out, Racing's fly-half Wisniewski looks a class act and they have Hernandez and Frans Steyn to come into the team too.

    Racing's 13 Vulivuli walked through the Toulon defence (beating Cibray, Wilkinson and Lamont) to set up the try, he's in the Rabeni mould.

    12 - 16 now, very good game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    The Toulon crowd is very feisty. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Jesus, Jonny threw a hail mary of a pass there, they really butchered a great chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    12 - 16 HT.

    Toulon have looked redundant in attack, they blew two chances when Masi was in the bin. Their scrum half Cibray is playing poorly and Jonny isn't doing much better but as always his kicks are keeping them in it. The backrow is playing well, Van Niekerk made a brilliant rip in the Toulon 22.

    Racing look quite impressive and are playing with lots of ambition. Their try was excellent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    21-26, 60 minutes to

    Jonny missed a chance to make it 24-26. Toulon playing a limited game but still in it.

    Hernandez on now.

    Edit: Bobo with an intercept try!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    31-36 FT.

    Cracking game until the end, Toulon could have snatched it after cutting Racing's 15 point lead to 5. Better team won and a huge result for them.

    If I was a Leinster fan, I'd be worried as Racing are considered to be the weakest team in their group!


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭wixfjord


    Finished, Paris by 4!

    Hope Judgement Day saw that. he'll be creaming himself, Wilko scored a penalty from ten yards inside his own half, with a good bit to spare!
    Toulon looked ****e tho tbh, no fluidity. Strong scrum tho. Thats twice they've been beaten at home in three games, having not been beaten in ages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    The game is repeated on Setanta 1 at 8pm tonight, worth a watch IMO.

    Wixfjord, you're spot on. Toulon looked really pedestrian. Maybe they'll improve with Conters back.

    Terrible start to the season for them, their win at Biarritz was a dour performance too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    Well, I watched the game in the Antique Tavern (with the sound off!) and what a fiasco. As my fans (lol) will know I only support Toulon due to the presence of 'he who who must be worshipped' and after todays' performance by the rest of the so called team .................aghhhhhh! That first try by Racing Metro was quite unbelievable - three Toulon defenders and they couldn't manage a tackle between them. Jonnos kicking was pretty well faultless (26 points out of 31 and 9/11 kicks) so I'm happy! Jonno must be getting pissed off by now playing with one bunch of losers after another - Newcastle, England and now Toulon - why couldn't he have been born in New Zealand?
    The final scoreline flattered Toulon who were rubbish and as a spectacle the game was too - roll on the further humiliation of the 'mighty' Boks tomorrow. :D

    Scrum.com report below

    Racing cling on to deny Toulon
    Scrum.com
    August 27, 2010


    Despite the best efforts of England fly-half Jonny Wilkinson, Racing Metro held on to secure a hard-fought 36-31 victory over Toulon at the Stade Mayol on Friday night.

    Wilkinson landed 26 of his side's points in front of another capacity crowd, with No.8 Juan Martin Fernandez Lobbe scoring their only try with eight minutes left on the clock. The visitors pounced for three tries and saw mercurial Argentina fly-half Juan Martin Hernandez make his long-awaited bow as a second-half replacement.

    Jonathan Wisniewski and Wilkinson traded early penalties but the game was sparked into life dramatically on 10 minutes when Racing outside-centre Albert Vulivuli made mincemeat of the Toulon line to set up blindside flanker Antoine Battut for the opening try. Toulon were left shellshocked and suffered a further blow when flanker Joe van Niekerk saw yellow for a high tackle on Battut as he charged for the line.

    Wilkinson's boot dragged Toulon back into contention and the hosts were soon on the right end of a numerical advantage as Racing lost Italian international Andrea Masi for a professional foul as van Niekerk looked to collect a chip ahead. Wilkinson added the three points before a lengthy stoppage for a serious-looking injury to Racing prop Benjamin Salemane Sa.

    Despite the distressing injury Racing picked up the pace again after the break with a try to Masi, atoning for his earlier indiscretion. As Toulon kept scrapping through Wilkinson, Racing wing Sireli Bobo sealed the result by picking off a lazy pass from Tom May to race away and score under the posts. Lobbe's late try and the continued efforts of Wilkinson made the final minutes nervous ones for Pierre Berbizier's side, but there was to be no great comeback.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭leinsterrugby


    wilko was rubbish, as commentators were saying hes so predictable and robotic. toulon are chokers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    wilko was rubbish, as commentators were saying hes so predictable and robotic. toulon are chokers.

    What's the matter lose your bets again? :pac::pac::pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭leinsterrugby


    no top 14 is sooo hard to predict, ive taken advice from here and learned from experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    no top 14 is sooo hard to predict, ive taken advice from here and learned from experience.

    Going OT here but finding good value bets in rugby is very hard because the draw outcome is highly unlikely as opposed to soccer, leaving two likely outcomes instead of three (and making the odds crap).

    Consequently, it's next to impossible to find an accumulator worth backing.

    I should know! :D:(

    Back OT: Toulon didn't 'choke' tonight. They were just rubbish, Wilkinson included (don't care how points he kicked JD). There's no creativity in that backline.

    I think you could compare Toulon to Manchester City. They have signed lots of very good players and spent lots of money but still have few players you would define as world class (bar Hayman and the back row). While good, I don't think the likes of Bruno, Chesney, Lamont, Wulf and Sackey are that good (just like Yaya Toure and Silva for Man City).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    no top 14 is sooo hard to predict, ive taken advice from here and learned from experience.

    Well, if it makes you feel any better I lost 75% of my bets today and 50% of my outlay. The only person who makes money from betting is Paddy Power and his friends.

    P.S. Jonny Wilkinson, although is he is now in the twilight of his career, remains one of the greatest rugby players ever to play the game. Some statistics about him from Wikipedia below and bear in mind that he has missed huge chunks out of his playing career due to injury which makes his achievements even more remarkable.

    International records

    Wilkinson scored a record 29th Test drop goal against France in the 2008 Six Nations Championship.
    His first converted penalty against Scotland on 8 March 2008, took him 3 points past Wales's Neil Jenkins tally of 1090 Test rugby points. This achievement came due to the IRB retrospectively granting full Test status to the 2005 British and Irish Lions warm-up test against Argentina, in which he scored 20 points, without which he would have remained behind Jenkins on that day. Two more penalties in the second half took his tally to 1099 points. However, Jenkins has also been retrospectively awarded 41 points in relation to his scoring during Lions Test matches bringing his grand total to 1090 compared to Wilkinson's 1125; a difference greater than the 20 points from the Argentina match.
    As at November 21, 2009, Wilkinson has still amassed the highest tally of International points even when the Lions points are excluded - 1058 to Jenkins' 1049.
    Wilkinson passed Ronan O'gara (522), to regain the overall points record total of 526 in the Six Nations, on 13 March 2010.
    Wilkinson holds the Rugby World Cup points record with 249 and is the only player to score points in two World Cup Finals.

    And, what is a choker - a rubbish term invented by some pleb who probably never even handled a rugby ball. The All Blacks are frequently derided as 'chokers' for their failure to win a World Cup since the first one in 1987 yet they are widely acknowledged to be the ultimate force in World rugby whatever about trophies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 955 ✭✭✭sickpuppy


    So he can kick place balls woohoo did u see his horrific pass with an overlap you wouldnt see it in tag match.
    Toulon tried to bludgeon there way to victory Racing tried to play and fully deserved there win.
    Hard for wilko to play with your tongue stuck to his arse


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