Irish slating and catholic slating etc...

caseyann

I am just wondering why there hasn't been a ban on slagging off Irish and the majority of this countries faith? But it is all out attack on people for calling out other nationalities on their faults and other religions?
I am seeing a very anti Irish sentiment on this site.Its an absolute disgrace.

GLaDOS

caseyann wrote: »

I am just wondering why there hasn't been a ban on slagging off Irish and the majority of this countries faith? But it is all out attack on people for calling out other nationalities on their faults and other religions?
I am seeing a very anti Irish sentiment on this site.Its an absolute disgrace.

Americans, English and Muslims get just as bad if not worse treatment.

Don't think anything like that should be banned myself, as some of it is quite justified imo.

tbh

caseyann wrote: »

I am seeing a very anti Irish sentiment on this site.Its an absolute disgrace.

Is any of it true?

caseyann

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Americans, English and Muslims get just as bad if not worse treatment.

Don't think anything like that should be banned myself, as some of it is quite justified imo.

Funny i dont see that at all.Barr perhaps Muslims and thats very slight.If you cant comment on another nationalities bad points you shouldnt be allowed comment on any nationalities bad points.
Calling Irish women fat and ugly and drink to much and are rude? Is justified? And catholics weirdos because they have their faith?

caseyann

tbh wrote: »

Is any of it true?

If you even think to try that one on me,then why was i banned for opening a thread for asking same of Africans and any other nationalities?

tbh

I don't know. Is that what this thread is really about? I also have no clue what you think I'm trying on you.

caseyann

tbh wrote: »

I don't know. Is that what this thread is really about? I also have no clue what you think I'm trying on you.

Using the old is any of it true line to get me to say some of it is

No its about the Irish,and religion slating stuff,if its not acceptable to call other people out on their stuff then it shouldnt be about Irish either.

tbh

Ps "African"isn't a nationality

tbh

caseyann wrote: »

Using the old is any of it true line to get me to say some of it is

No its about the Irish,and religion slating stuff,if its not acceptable to call other people out on their stuff then it shouldnt be about Irish either.

Well of some of it is true, and you know it's true, why get upset?

And if some of it isn't true, and you know it isn't true, why get upset?

caseyann

tbh wrote: »

Ps "African"isn't a nationality

Well sorry for my ignorance i should have said what? Nigerians i could have seen that go down a treat? I was making it about all Africans white and black and indian etc..
Point is if you cant do it about other nationalities then shouldn't be allowed about Irish,i take offence and so do others and its down right anti Irish.But if done about another nationality its not allowed? Explain that to me thanks

caseyann

tbh wrote: »

Well of some of it is true, and you know it's true, why get upset?

And if some of it isn't true, and you know it isn't true, why get upset?

Welll why then do people get tagged racist bigoted etc.. for calling other nationalities out or slagging them for been what ever religion.
On top of that the thread about Mohammed been a pedophile? How is it allowed religion at all is slated?

tbh

And tell us, what is it you don't like about all Africans?

caseyann

tbh wrote: »

And tell us, what is it you don't like about all Africans?

It was a joke towards the ones who are rude and bad drivers etc.. i dont have anything against Africans at all.I have great neighbors who are African and my best friend last 20 years is African from cape town.It is a ridiculous notion that if you cant call people out on their faults and attitudes that you have a problem with them.But yet its not allowed but anything goes about Irish.

tbh

caseyann wrote: »

Welll why then do people get tagged racist bigoted etc.. for calling other nationalities out ?

Let's stick with your original definition of "African" as a nationality. There are a billion people in Africa. You say "why does calling out a billion people make you a bigot". Callin out means attributing a certain type of behaviour to them which you dislike. So you are asking what trait that a billion people from Africa share, that is not shared by anyone else in the world, that you dislike.

Definition of a bigot:
a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own


Definition of prejudice: a. An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts

So, your assumption that a billion people could share a common trait, because o where they come from seems to me like prejudice. And because of that, you appear bigoted

So maybe that's why

caseyann

tbh wrote: »

Let's stick with your original definition of "African" as a nationality. There are a billion people in Africa. You say "why does calling out a billion people make you a bigot". Callin out means attributing a certain type of behaviour to them which you dislike. So you are asking what trait that a billion people from Africa share, that is not shared by anyone else in the world, that you dislike.

Definition of a bigot:
a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own


Definition of prejudice: a. An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts

So, your assumption that a billion people could share a common trait, because o where they come from seems to me like prejudice. And because of that, you appear bigoted

So maybe that's why

So having a load of people on AH saying all Irish women are ugly and fat and dress bad and have bad attitudes and Irish people are lazy and drunks and ugly and scumbags is allowed?
Whats the definition of them threads about Irish and those who post that stuff?
I dont have that assumption about a whole country( it was a joke thread),but they sure as hell can get away with it about saying about Irish and catholics etc..I am far from bigoted.

tbh

caseyann wrote: »

Whats the definition of them threads about Irish and those who post that stuff?
.

Idiots, really. But two wrongs don't make a right

El Weirdo

caseyann wrote: »

Well sorry for my ignorance i should have said what? Nigerians i could have seen that go down a treat? I was making it about all Africans white and black and indian etc..

Indian africans? Fucking hate them cunts.

caseyann

tbh wrote: »

Idiots, really. But two wrongs don't make a right

But yet its allowed? I didnt do anything wrong,this is the laughable thing.If it had of been Irish thread no one would have batted and eye lid,and yet they are allowed tar a whole country with same brush?
And i again say its a very anti Irish sentiment and anti catholic sentiment.

caseyann

El Weirdo wrote: »

Indian africans? Fucking hate them cunts.

Do you even know any?

El Weirdo

caseyann wrote: »

Do you even know any?

Do you?

caseyann

El Weirdo wrote: »

Do you?

Yes they live across the road from me and wave at me everyday,keep to themselves quiet and sweet kids.

dr.bollocko

Point.
Counterpoint.
Same point made again.
Same counterpoint.
Same point made yet again.
Request to read the previous two counterpoints.
Same point made again.
Brick wall stronger than keyboard.

tbh

Some of my best friends are counterpoints!

caseyann

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Point.
Counterpoint.
Same point made again.
Same counterpoint.
Same point made yet again.
Request to read the previous two counterpoints.
Same point made again.
Brick wall stronger than keyboard.

Care to counter the point i made do you?Why would i blatant in a racist bigoted way make that thread? To get banned when i asked so much to get back? All you had to do is send me a pm and tell me what it looked like or ask me! But you didnt. Yous allow constant smart ass comments and character abuse towards posters on AH who dont fall into your category of buddies.And allow the constant slating of Irish people on there.
You knew fine rightly what that thread was about and you decided to use it to ban me and twist it for the ban.

El Weirdo

caseyann wrote: »

Yes they live across the road from me and wave at me everyday,keep to themselves quiet and sweet kids.

Ugandan indians?

caseyann

El Weirdo wrote: »

Ugandan indians?

No south African Indians.I dont believe i knew there was Ugandan Indians.

El Weirdo

caseyann wrote: »

No south African Indians.I dont believe i knew there was Ugandan Indians.

I went to school with one.

caseyann

El Weirdo wrote: »

I went to school with one.

So you didnt like him?

El Weirdo

No. I thought he was a fucking great bloke.

Did you not like him?

caseyann

El Weirdo wrote: »

No. I thought he was a fucking great bloke.

Did you not like him?

I dont know him so how can i say if i liked him or not If you liked him thats good so why did you say you hated them in first place

dr.bollocko

caseyann wrote: »

Care to counter the point i made do you?

No but do continue. It's certainly helping me to finalise my opinion.

El Weirdo

caseyann wrote: »

I dont know him so how can i say if i liked him or not If you liked him thats good so why did you say you hated them in first place

Just contributing to this nonsense thread. Is this not TCN?

caseyann

dr.bollocko wrote: »

No but do continue. It's certainly helping me to finalise my opinion.

El Weirdo wrote: »

Just contributing to this nonsense thread. Is this not TCN?

Point made

caseyann

If someone wants to explain to me the question i asked from first post can they reply thanks.

trout

caseyann wrote: »

If someone wants to explain to me the question i asked from first post can they reply thanks.

Explain your question, to you ?

caseyann

trout wrote: »

Explain your question, to you ?

No explain how it is allowed for Irish to be slated and tarred with same brush and someone opens an obvious joke thread in counter to that and get banned? Thanks

trout

If this thread is really about your recent AH ban, there is a process to follow ... linked here ... I think you know this already.

If this thread is really about a problem with "Irish slating and Catholic slating" ... I don't really have a strong opinion on that ... I'm not aware of it being a big problem ... but I'm willing to listen to any reasonable arguments.

looksee

You know how if you say your brother or sister is a weirdo, they just raise their eyes and say something rude back. But if somebody outside the family says your brother is a weirdo, you would be very offended on his behalf. Its a bit like that.

gbee

caseyann wrote: »

I am seeing a very anti Irish sentiment on this site.Its an absolute disgrace.

Your opinion and you're entitled to it. It's a sign of the times, even old people are realising how rotten to the core Ireland really is, you know, torn between a world wide paedophilia gang and government corruption and the sell off of our culture by our leaders for a multicultural society to having armed police on patrol.

And as everyone it out of work, too much time on many people's hands.

caseyann

trout wrote: »

If this thread is really about your recent AH ban, there is a process to follow ... linked here ... I think you know this already.

If this thread is really about a problem with "Irish slating and Catholic slating" ... I don't really have a strong opinion on that ... I'm not aware of it being a big problem ... but I'm willing to listen to any reasonable arguments.[/QUOTE

I am in middle of the first,it was just an example to the thread.

The argument is as i said.I see it as slating and insulting a whole country in the mannerism they do on AH.If you do it about another nationality you are immediately attacked or considered a racist.It offends my family my friends and the Irish people as a whole.Also people who believe in god the condescending comments and insulting posts that have been made about peoples faith.
Then you have people who are not Irish also get in on the slagging of Irish and majority is about Irish women.What does that make them but they arent called on it because they say dont get me wrong i like Irish but and start to slate.

caseyann

gbee wrote: »

Your opinion and you're entitled to it. It's a sign of the times, even old people are realising how rotten to the core Ireland really is, you know torn between a world wide paedophilia gang and government corruption and the sell off of our culture by our leaders for a multicultural society to having armed police on patrol.

And as everyone it out of work, too much time on many people's hands.

It doesnt much matter what Ireland is or what bad points it has or the catholic church.Who is anyone to be slagging it off and then when someone brings forward comments about another nationality.Its considered wrong.
Like for like? You can slag government thats not a direct slating Irish thing.
The multicultural thing is not a sell off been honest,for me its ok.Other wise i wouldnt have the man i do

Armin_Tamzarian

caseyann wrote: »

i dont have anything against Africans at all.I have great neighbors who are African and my best friend last 20 years is African from cape town.

My cousin's in a bubble.
My friend Jeffrey's uh, sister, also ... you know ...bubble.
I got a lot of bubble experience.

Pace2008

caseyann wrote: »

. i dont have anything against Africans at all.I have great neighbors who are African and my best friend last 20 years is African from cape town.It is a ridiculous notion that if you cant call people out on their faults and attitudes that you have a problem with them

"Loads of my friends are black/Muslim/Polish" is the new "I'm not a racist but..."

.But yet its not allowed but anything goes about Irish.

I'm not a fan of self-deprecating Irish threads either, but they are in a totally different context to the sort you made earlier and you have a long way to come if you don't realise that.

caseyann

Pace2008 wrote: »

"Loads of my friends are black/Muslim/Polish" is the new "I'm not a racist but..."
I'm not a fan of self-deprecating Irish threads either, but they are in a totally different context to the sort you made earlier and you have a long way to come if you don't realise that.

How is it anyway different? Mine was a joke and those threads are direct insult.

Pace2008

caseyann wrote: »

How is it anyway different? Mine was a joke and those threads are direct insult.

Which of these two would you consider more offensive: A thread on an English forum entitled "What I hate about the Irish," or a thread on an Irish forum entitled "What I hate about the Irish?"

caseyann

Pace2008 wrote: »

Which of these two would you consider more offensive: A thread on an English forum entitled "What I hate about the Irish," or a thread on an Irish forum entitled "What I hate about the Irish?"

Both same.
And you didnt get to the point about other nationalities slating Irish women people,and they use the i like Irish people but. they dont get reprimanded for their generalizations do they?

Wibbs

caseyann wrote: »

Funny i dont see that at all.

We all see what we want to see and disregard the rest*. Some more than others.

Barr perhaps Muslims and thats very slight.

Eh really? So a thread that suggests the most revered person in their faith may be a kiddie fiddler is slight to you?** Eh no. The religious in general get a fair old pounding once in a while.








* is that a song lyric? I'm thinking simon and garfunkel.
**The Muslim Boardsies have now all gone WTF? wibbs is pointing this out, while they look up the word for fcuking irony in Arabic.

AckwelFoley

Wibbs wrote: »

The religious in general get a fair old pounding once in a while.

Like my missus.

Caseyann. You havnt endeared yourself to moderators over the last few weeks.

To use a phrase DeVore said to me once a few years back..

"Try to be less omnipresent"

MikeC101

Wibbs wrote: »

* is that a song lyric? I'm thinking simon and garfunkel.

Very similar! The Boxer -

"All lies and jests
Still a man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest"

caseyann

Wibbs wrote: »

We all see what we want to see and disregard the rest*. Some more than others. Eh really? So a thread that suggests the most revered person in their faith may be a kiddie fiddler is slight to you?** Eh no. The religious in general get a fair old pounding once in a while.








* is that a song lyric? I'm thinking simon and garfunkel.
**The Muslim Boardsies have now all gone WTF? wibbs is pointing this out, while they look up the word for fcuking irony in Arabic.

If you see i referred to that thread in one of my posts.All religions in Ireland Irish Muslim also its insulting to,I find they dont get in on them threads so fast the ones who will get in on the catholic threads,and then go over to the Muslim thread and defend it.

I dont disregard any insult to any nationality but the whole jumping on a person for making a few comments and generalizations and make assumptions and ban them when all done in a joke aswell(When it is obvious a thread wouldnt be made like that except in jest because one would know if serious you would get banned) .But slating Irish and personal insults go ignored and allowed?

Pace2008

caseyann wrote: »

Both same.
And you didnt get to the point about other nationalities slating Irish women people,and they use the i like Irish people but. they dont get reprimanded for their generalizations do they?

You think they're the same despite the different context? Pace out, there's not going to be any reconciliation of views here, methinks.