Bastard Elites are at it again.

Di0genes

You'll never get what those bastard elites are doing now

top figures including New York's mayor Michael Bloomberg, the hotel heir Barron Hilton, CNN media mogul Ted Turner, and the Star Wars director George Lucas, the Oracle software tycoon Larry Ellison, the banker David Rockefeller, and oilman T Boone Pickens. The media entrepreneur Barry Diller is on the list along with his wife, fashion designer Diane von Furstenberg

Well you know if there's a Rockerfeller involved it's going to be rotten.

The world of philanthropy got a huge financial boost today as more than 30 American billionaires pledged to give away at least half of their fortunes to charitable causes, signing up to a campaign launched by Warren Buffett and Bill Gates.

Thats right the sinister elites are giving money away to charity.

God dammit.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/aug/04/us-billionaires-half-fortune-gates

TheIrishGrover

Di0genes wrote: »

You'll never get what those bastard elites are doing now



Well you know if there's a Rockerfeller involved it's going to be rotten.



Thats right the sinister elites are giving money away to charity.

God dammit.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/aug/04/us-billionaires-half-fortune-gates

But only if you allow them to gestate their giant lizard eggs in you. Grrrr I HATE Jews. I mean giant lizard men

Audiomad

That money never gets to the people who actually need it, look at all the money that comes from Oxfam, Unisef and even the Gates foundation they say its for stopping starvation in Africa but how many countries in Africa actually have a hunger issue?, they use Africa as if it was one country!

Have you ever heard Bill Gates talking about cutting the world population by 10-15%? wonder how he plans to do that when trying to save people?

fontanalis

Damn Rockafeller Skank!

namloc1980

Audiomad wrote: »

Have you ever heard Bill Gates talking about cutting the world population by 10-15%? wonder how he plans to do that when trying to save people?

WHAT?

namloc1980

namloc1980 wrote: »

WHAT?

He's referring to a talk that is often taken out of context where Bill Gates is talking about healthcare.
He mentions that overpopulation is a looming problem, however despite what some people would like to pretend he doesn't say anything about killing people.
In fact he makes the argument that increased medical care would help the looming problem as it would help lower the birth rate.

But then that wouldn't scary enough....

Joshua Jones

Tweet tweet elites, I'm a little birdie. Please puke down my neck cause I'll swallow any auld crap ya feed me.

fontanalis

Substitute elites for Alex Jones and you have it.

robtri

i am sure its a lot more then them _________ (insert your own curse word) Freemen...

I say fair paly to these guys.... more charitable then most people here slagging them off

Torakx

Whats the CT btw? ^^
I cant see Diogenes posts but i saw a qoute of it and am wondering since its the first time i have noticed a thread from him.

dapto1

Fair play to them.

Brown Bomber

Torakx wrote: »

Whats the CT btw? ^^
I cant see Diogenes posts but i saw a qoute of it and am wondering since its the first time i have noticed a thread from him.

The "CT" is the breaking news that the Rockefellers, Bill Gates and crew are philanthropists :eek:

Therefore if you think they are corrupt you are an idiot.

Therefore any "conspiracy theorists" are idiots.

EDIT: This was the OP.

Di0genes wrote: »

You'll never get what those bastard elites are doing now



Well you know if there's a Rockerfeller involved it's going to be rotten.



Thats right the sinister elites are giving money away to charity.

God dammit.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/aug/04/us-billionaires-half-fortune-gates

Brown Bomber

fontanalis wrote: »

Substitute elites for Alex Jones and you have it.

Who are you referring to?

Brown Bomber

Di0genes wrote: »

You'll never get what those bastard elites are doing now



Well you know if there's a Rockerfeller involved it's going to be rotten.



Thats right the sinister elites are giving money away to charity.

God dammit.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/aug/04/us-billionaires-half-fortune-gates

Meyer Lansky gave a lot of money to "charity". By your logic he couldn't possibly be a criminal :rolleyes:

Please clarify what your point is

robtri

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Who are you referring to?

alex jones, the clue was in when he named him

Brown Bomber

robtri wrote: »

alex jones, the clue was in when he named him

So Alex Jones is swallowing alex Jones' crap?

Torakx

I didnt realise giving money to charities means i am definetly a good guy and am above all suspicion ^^
That is a theory alright.I wonder if its true.
So the conspiracy is that they are giving money to charity?
I think they do give money to charity... its mentioned quite alot in the freemasons site.yet does that mean that all freemasons are above breaking laws or anything sinister at all?
Why not lose the sarcasm and vindictive attitude and just say it like an adult in a sensible fashion are you not an adult with a mature attitude?
Stil lcurious what this has to do with anythign apart from charities.I dont get the CT?
Who is the conspirater/s? What did they do?
If its just to say look this guy gave money to charity.
Then i respond.
Ok thanks for the news update,nothing to see here.

bytey

christ almighty
i cant believe the OP went with this as an example .

they must be good cos they give to charity - what a load of ass .

you know many murdering psychos , looked after little birds and animals
with great care and tenderness - while bludgeoning the s.hite out of their fellow man .

would this also count as an example of goodness by your logic ?

profitius

So Rockefellar is giving away half his fortune. Some lucky charity is going to be 10's of trillions of dollars richer!

bonkey

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Therefore if you think they are corrupt you are an idiot.

Therefore any "conspiracy theorists" are idiots.

EDIT: This was the OP.

The OP didn't call anyone idiots. Don't be so quick to put insults in other people's mouths.

robtri

bytey wrote: »

christ almighty
i cant believe the OP went with this as an example .

they must be good cos they give to charity - what a load of ass .

you know many murdering psychos , looked after little birds and animals
with great care and tenderness - while bludgeoning the s.hite out of their fellow man .

would this also count as an example of goodness by your logic ?

actually yes...
looking after litle birds and animals is an act of great goodness....
what would u call it????

robtri

Brown Bomber wrote: »

So Alex Jones is swallowing alex Jones' crap?

what the person actually meant i cant tell you...
but the title is bastards elite are at it again...

poster said swap elite with alex jones....

i just clarified that for you... draw your own conclusions from it

robtri

bytey wrote: »

christ almighty
i cant believe the OP went with this as an example .

they must be good cos they give to charity - what a load of ass .

just as about as good as taking a sentance out of a whole speech and using that to condemn certain people.....

Di0genes

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Meyer Lansky gave a lot of money to "charity". By your logic he couldn't possibly be a criminal :rolleyes:

Please clarify what your point is

Brown Bomber makes a post about a jew. In other news Grass still green, and cows still moo.

Penn

Diogenes isn't saying that since these guys are giving money to charity, they are good. He's pointing out that while most CTers, here and on other sites, are very quick to label these people as monsters who are trying to control the world so they can make a profit, some of these people are giving up half their personal fortune to charity.

Does that make them good people? Well, it doesn't hurt their chances of being called good people. But one of the main points I took from this was that they are giving up half their personal fortune, yet they are always being accused of these terrible acts so they can make a profit. So maybe this is an indication that they don't do these terrible things.

Of course, a CT could be that it's all a publicity thing, misdirection to make themselves look better, and really they keep the money. But with all the publicity and the huge sums of money involved, it would be extremely unlikely that the money doesn't go to charitable causes.

Di0genes

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

Diogenes isn't saying that since these guys are giving money to charity, they are good. He's pointing out that while most CTers, here and on other sites, are very quick to label these people as monsters who are trying to control the world so they can make a profit, some of these people are giving up half their personal fortune to charity.

Does that make them good people? Well, it doesn't hurt their chances of being called good people. But one of the main points I took from this was that they are giving up half their personal fortune, yet they are always being accused of these terrible acts so they can make a profit. So maybe this is an indication that they don't do these terrible things.

Thank you. I'm also pointed out that people accuse gates/rockeffler of engaging in a mass global population cull, and it doesn't make sense that they'd give away a fast fortune to people they're planning on killing.

phill106

Audiomad wrote: »

Have you ever heard Bill Gates talking about cutting the world population by 10-15%? wonder how he plans to do that when trying to save people?

By installing windows vista on all hospital computers.
Computer crash, another one bites the dust!

TheIrishGrover

phill106 wrote: »

By installing windows vista on all hospital computers.
Computer crash, another one bites the dust!

Talk about the Blue Screen Of Death!

I find it interesting that so many people took the OP as a personal attack. The instant I read it I thought pretty much along the same lines as Paddy: Does this act make them a good person? Not in itself IMHO. Is it a good act? As long as it's followed through, yes. Is it a good (if expensive) bit of self promotion? Certainly but if millions benefit I have no problem with that. Can it help? Of course.

And yet straight away people were not focusing on the article but accusing the OP of calling them idiots. And CT wonder why people concider them paranoid.

WakeUp

Have I missed something here Diogenes where is the conspiracy? Would I be right in saying that the conspiracy with regard to the OP is that there is no conspiracy? Have I got that right?

Anyways, whilst I commenting in my opinion this appears to be very good personal PR for the rich and wealthy of the planet the shakers and the movers.

I found the following paragraphs of the article to be particularly interesting...

“Some are sceptical of the way Gates and Buffett are creating a highly public philanthropic elite.
Pablo Eisenberg, a senior fellow at the Georgetown Public Policy Institute, at Georgetown University, Washington DC, said ultra-wealthy donors tend to give money to higher education, arts and established healthcare causes, with relatively little going to poverty reduction, disability causes or to disadvantaged ethnic minority communities. Billionaires generally gave away funds through tax advantageous foundations.

"These mega-foundations, which are effectively family enterprises with no accountability, are going to dictate public policy priorities for this country," said Eisenberg. "I'm not sure that tax receipts haven't done a better job, over time, of meeting the needs of our neediest people, than philanthropists."

RGDATA!

i would have thought some folks might have raised the possibility of a conspiracy in this in how the money was spent etc., or whether anything like the money talked about ever really does find its way into these charities. i would have thought there would be speculation for the motives behind the donations, especially with a Rockerfeller and Bill Gates involved.
I think it's clearly a topic for discussion here for those who doubt that the motives behind this are 100% philantropic

Torakx

RGDATA! wrote: »

i would have thought some folks might have raised the possibility of a conspiracy in this in how the money was spent etc., or whether anything like the money talked about ever really does find its way into these charities. i would have thought there would be speculation for the motives behind the donations, especially with a Rockerfeller and Bill Gates involved.
I think it's clearly a topic for discussion here for those who doubt that the motives behind this are 100% philantropic

Oh i dont doubt many have considered that.But i wont be posting it in a sarastic thread lol
There is a reason i have Diogenes on ignore and its become more apparent from reading quotes in this thread that nothing has changed im sorry to say.I dont think this thread was made to discuss a conspiracy.
Does Diogenes really think the elites are bastards in any sense of the word?
I dont think so and must presume then its a sarcastic comment directed at people who have recently slated such celebrities.
His main point appearing to be that the elites give money to charity so they are not bastards(going with sarcasm)
If Alex jones is replaced instead of the Elites im not sure what he is saying?
Alex jones gives money to charity? He is also corrupt?
I might agree if the point was a bit clearer to be honest.

Brown Bomber

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

Of course, a CT could be that it's all a publicity thing, misdirection to make themselves look better, and really they keep the money. But with all the publicity and the huge sums of money involved, it would be extremely unlikely that the money doesn't go to charitable causes.

Look I'll give you an example of Rockefeller "charity". Rockefeller via Flexner through the Carnegie & Rockefeller Foundation published The Flexner Report http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexner_Report which was the hijacking and ultimate transformation of medicine and education into a model which Rockefeller wanted - drugs and profit.

Nothing to do with helping people.

robtri

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Look I'll give you an example of Rockefeller "charity". Rockefeller via Flexner through the Carnegie & Rockefeller Foundation published The Flexner Report http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexner_Report which was the hijacking and ultimate transformation of medicine and education into a model which Rockefeller wanted - drugs and profit.

Nothing to do with helping people.

and some would argue reading the report that it was put there to help advance medical training and education......
which is a good thing in my books........

but if you would rather doctors to not be trained as well as they could be well that up to u...

profitius

All these charity foundations are designed to have a negative influence on society. Usually you find these shady characters donating to colleges and universities.

Not forgetting Bono telling the world to give aid to Africa while he sits on a personal fortune of €100m+.

robtri

profitius wrote: »

All these charity foundations are designed to have a negative influence on society. Usually you find these shady characters donating to colleges and universities.

yes those bastards at the red cross and other such charitites are at it again saving people... the feckers like them:rolleyes:

My name is URL

Can't help notice there's no mention of population control in that article.. maybe they've dropped it as a goal.. pity, I thought it was an important issue

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6350303.ece

robtri

My name is URL wrote: »

Can't help notice there's no mention of population control in that article.. maybe they've dropped it as a goal.. pity, I thought it was an important issue

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6350303.ece

yes heres a quote from the link YOU provided

Gates, 53, who is giving away most of his fortune, argued that healthier families, freed from malaria and extreme poverty, would change their habits and have fewer children within half a generation.

doesnt seeem like he is out to cull the population, does it... and this is direct from your evidence

Yitzhak Rabin

robtri wrote: »

yes heres a quote from the link YOU provided

Gates, 53, who is giving away most of his fortune, argued that healthier families, freed from malaria and extreme poverty, would change their habits and have fewer children within half a generation.

doesnt seeem like he is out to cull the population, does it... and this is direct from your evidence

I don't think he was claiming it did.

My name is URL

robtri wrote: »

yes heres a quote from the link YOU provided

Gates, 53, who is giving away most of his fortune, argued that healthier families, freed from malaria and extreme poverty, would change their habits and have fewer children within half a generation.

doesnt seeem like he is out to cull the population, does it... and this is direct from your evidence

I never said he was.. and besides I do genuinely think it's important that global populations decrease over time. 'Cull the population' implies murder, so I don't know where you're coming from at all with that.

profitius

robtri wrote: »

yes those bastards at the red cross and other such charitites are at it again saving people... the feckers like them:rolleyes:

We're not talking about the red cross on this thread. The red cross wouldn't be the sort of charity these people would donate to.

robtri

My name is URL wrote: »

I never said he was.. and besides I do genuinely think it's important that global populations decrease over time. 'Cull the population' implies murder, so I don't know where you're coming from at all with that.

considering gates never said the words CULL the POPULATION, i think you are sadly missing the point of his speech,

again from the article you linked....i quote

Gates, 53, who is giving away most of his fortune, argued that healthier families, freed from malaria and extreme poverty, would change their habits and have fewer children within half a generation.

now if you can show me bill gates saying he believes or wants to cull the population i would be very interested.

robtri

profitius wrote: »

We're not talking about the red cross on this thread. The red cross wouldn't be the sort of charity these people would donate to.

how do you know he didnt?????
I remember reading the the red cross did benifit from the Gate foundation

bonkey

robtri wrote: »

now if you can show me bill gates saying he believes or wants to cull the population i would be very interested.

I think the point MNIU was making is that he never claimed that Gates believes / wants to cull population. He made a reference to population reduction goals, which is - as you're both pointing out - an entirely different kettle of fish.

Scarab80

profitius wrote: »

We're not talking about the red cross on this thread. The red cross wouldn't be the sort of charity these people would donate to.

Check it up for yourself...

http://www.gatesfoundation.org/grants/Pages/search.aspx

Over $10 million given to the red cross.

And just in case that is disinformation from the elites, here from the red cross.

http://www.ifrc.org/what/health/diseases/malaria/index.asp

The International Federation’s annual appeal for malaria funds aims at pooling resources from a number of donors in order to scale up malaria interventions in a cost efficient manner and to demonstrate disease impact. To achieve this, the International Federation works with global partners to identify candidate recipient countries. The International Federation’s contributions are intended to fill gaps and make an important difference in country programmes. The International Federation’s efforts are fully integrated and in harmony with global malaria partners including Roll Back Malaria (RBM), UNICEF, the Global Fund for AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria (GFATM), the UN Foundation (UNF), the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the World Swim for Malaria Charitable Foundation and many others.

robtri

bonkey wrote: »

I think the point MNIU was making is that he never claimed that Gates believes / wants to cull population. He made a reference to population reduction goals, which is - as you're both pointing out - an entirely different kettle of fish.

ahhh sorry MNIU....

i took it up wrong as in you where saying bill wants to cull the population

Di0genes

Torakx wrote: »

Oh i dont doubt many have considered that.But i wont be posting it in a sarastic thread lol
There is a reason i have Diogenes on ignore and its become more apparent from reading quotes in this thread that nothing has changed im sorry to say.I dont think this thread was made to discuss a conspiracy.
Does Diogenes really think the elites are bastards in any sense of the word?
I dont think so and must presume then its a sarcastic comment directed at people who have recently slated such celebrities.
His main point appearing to be that the elites give money to charity so they are not bastards(going with sarcasm)
If Alex jones is replaced instead of the Elites im not sure what he is saying?
Alex jones gives money to charity? He is also corrupt?
I might agree if the point was a bit clearer to be honest.

For someone who has me on ignore you seem awfully interested in my opinion.

profitius

Scarab80 wrote: »

Check it up for yourself...

http://www.gatesfoundation.org/grants/Pages/search.aspx

Over $10 million given to the red cross.

And just in case that is disinformation from the elites, here from the red cross.

http://www.ifrc.org/what/health/diseases/malaria/index.asp

$10m is nothing. Naturally they'll give something to genuine charities but you have to look at the overall picture.

Another thing is I'm not sure Gates can be compared to Rockefellar.Gates could be genuine. If anybody thinks Rockefellar has good intentions they should do some research.

robtri

profitius wrote: »

We're not talking about the red cross on this thread. The red cross wouldn't be the sort of charity these people would donate to.

profitius wrote: »

$10m is nothing. Naturally they'll give something to genuine charities but you have to look at the overall picture.

back pedalling i see....

first post was you saying they wouldnt but yet they did.... now you try to brush it off as 10m is nothing....

Podman

Being charitable is great for the image, and very easy to pull off especially if your a trillionaire. All you need is a few "believers" to spread the word.

It's called PR and its good for business
To me its just propaganda.

This thread is pointless.

Scarab80

profitius wrote: »

$10m is nothing. Naturally they'll give something to genuine charities but you have to look at the overall picture.

How about you look at the overall picture, you can search through all of the grants issued in the link I helpfully provided.

How about $1.5bn to help under privileged black kids go to college, or the multiple billions to fights AIDS, Malaria and Polio in Africa.

Almost $23bn in grants issued by the foundation to date.

profitius wrote: »

Another thing is I'm not sure Gates can be compared to Rockefellar.Gates could be genuine. If anybody thinks Rockefellar has good intentions they should do some research.

The Rockefellar Foundation would appear to do similarly good work, maybe you shouldn't rely on youtube for your research.

profitius

Scarab80 wrote: »

How about you look at the overall picture, you can search through all of the grants issued in the link I helpfully provided.

How about $1.5bn to help under privileged black kids go to college, or the multiple billions to fights AIDS, Malaria and Polio in Africa.

Almost $23bn in grants issued by the foundation to date.

$20bn, $40bn, $100bn its alot of money. The point some of you are missing is its loose change to some of these people. So $10m to the red cross and a few similar charaties is laughable.

Scarab80 wrote: »

The Rockefellar Foundation would appear to do similarly good work, maybe you shouldn't rely on youtube for your research.

I rely on my intelligence to spot patterns. Its a thief who stole 100 euro but gave 10c to charity. Some people think he's great.

Ever ask yourself why the Rockefellers didn't just give their money away. They create foundations instead to influence and gain power.

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=2893

"Philanthropy is the essential element in the making of Rockefeller power. It gives the Rockefellers a priceless reputation as public benefactors which the public values so highly that power over public affairs is placed in the Rockefellers' hands. Philanthropy generates more power than wealth alone can provide.'' -Myer Kutz Rockefeller Power

http://www.sntp.net/fda/piper_griffin.htm

The Association of American Medical Colleges has been one of the principal vehicles of foundation and cartel control over medical education in the United States and Canada. First organized in 1876, it serves the function of setting a wide range of standards for all medical schools. It determines the criteria for selecting medical students, for curriculum development, for programs of continuing medical education after graduation, and for communication within the profession as well as to the general public. The Association of American Medical Colleges, from its inception, has been funded and dominated by the Commonwealth Fund, the China Medical Board (created in 1914 as a division of the Rockefeller Foundation), the Kellogg Foundation, the Macy, Markle, Rockefeller, and Sloan foundations.(8)

By way of analogy, we may say that the foundations captured control of the apex of the pyramid of medical education when they were able to place their own people onto the boards of the various schools and into key administrative positions. The middle of the pyramid was secured by the Association of American Medical Colleges which set standards and unified the curricula. The base of the pyramid, however, was not consolidated until they finally were able to select the teachers themselves. Consequently, a major portion of foundation activity always has been directed toward what generally is called "academic medicine." Since 1913, the foundations have completely preempted this field. The Commonwealth Fund reports a half a million dollars in one year alone appropriated for this purpose, while the Rockefeller Foundation boasts of over twenty thousand fellowships and scholarships for the training of medical instructors.(9)

In The Money Givers, Joseph Goulden touches upon this sensitive nerve when he says:

If the foundations chose to speak, their voice would resound with the solid clang of the cash register. Their expenditures on health and hospitals totaled more than a half-billion dollars between 1964 and 1968, according to a compilation by the American Association of Fund-Raising Counsel. But the foundations' "innovative money" goes for research, not for the production of doctors who treat human beings. Medical schools, realizing this, paint their faces with the hue desired by their customers .(10)