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possible one of the greatest live bands ever?

  • 04-08-2010 2:30pm
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    i have been listeening to greenday for as long as i can remember :)

    yes i am only 15 but still. i personaly love there old stuff and really not bothered with their new albumn its just not my taste :p

    but personaly i would say that greenday are one if not the best live bands in the world atm :)

    jus wana see wat other ppls oppinions are on it? :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭bigwormbundoran


    Rammstein are without a doubt the greatest live show going, discussion over as far as im concerned


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 Eire we are


    ok lol :)
    jus seeing ppl opionions :)
    this is mi first ever time using boards and didnt really know wat to write :P
    but i have listened to Rammstein i like a few of there song :)
    i must check out some videos of them live :P
    tanks :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Kiss are pretty epic live.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 Eire we are


    yeah they are :)

    mi agrees wivv that :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭blastman


    Green Day put on a good show, but there are better live bands (the two mentioned already being good examples)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,663 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    Metallica. /thread.


    Their album output has waned over the past few years, but as a live act, they're pretty much untouchable imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 Eire we are


    personaly not a huge matalica fan :/
    but yeah everyone else likes them so i jus go wit the flow :P

    jus like to say tanks for all the comments this is mi first post thing on boards all u guys are cool :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭bigwormbundoran


    ok lol :)
    jus seeing ppl opionions :)
    this is mi first ever time using boards and didnt really know wat to write :P
    but i have listened to Rammstein i like a few of there song :)
    i must check out some videos of them live :P
    tanks :D

    Heres one from the new tour which pretty much sums up their live show at the minute, the quality doesnt exactly do it justice but im sure youll get the basics



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 Eire we are


    thats a very good show :) like the sound perfect :)

    i thinks u probly are right :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 304 ✭✭TheBandit


    I seen Muse live in Toronto a few years ago, they absolutely blew me away. I'm not a big Muse fan but would say they probably put on the best gig i've seen, not my favourite though that honour is reserved for Rodger Walters doing Dark Side of the Moon live. As for Green Day i've never seen them live but i really dislike them and don't think i could even give them a chance live even if they preformed well....i'm prejudiced :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭siltirocker


    I have to say most people are pretty spot on.

    For no frills, just passion, energy and good live performance it'll always be Pearl Jam for me.

    Those Rammestein shows are mental. (Kinda think Muse live can be over-rated IMO).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭PMI


    Its all down to years under your belt lack of decent soundchecks etc.. so you just do what you do...

    Green day back in 90's were rough.... now like a machine :D same with most acts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    I think too many people think a band is a great live band just because they like the songs, and they songs are well-played. Any band who can't play all their tunes perfectly (alright, everyone makes mistakes now and then) shouldn't be playing gigs.

    Billie Joe Armstrong is an awesome frontman, he does it all perfectly for Green Day's style and type of music and all.

    I don't get why Muse are put around as such a great live band - they've got expensive stage equipment, that doesn't make them great. If you go to see a band, and they're too busy up on fifty-foot platforms surrounded by lights and lazers, where's that connection between artist and audience? The whole point of a gig is lost on Muse.

    I think The Flaming Lips do it pretty well, they've got enough gimmicks and stage tricks to satisfy that aspect, but they have lots of genuine banter and really reach out for that connection. I've seen them six times, and what they do lack is good setlists. They play to the crowd too much, hardly play any of their older stuff past 1999.

    Wilco are great. There's so much going on onstage, and you're watching some really incredible musicians (I know everyone says their favourite bands are incredible, but see how many bands you can think of that have a more talented drummer/guitarist combination than Glenn Kotche and Nels Cline), they play for AGES, and they pick songs from all throughout their back catalogue (which is extra cool, I think, 'cause their lineup has been through so many changes). They kinda lack that connection though, from the few times I've seen them.

    My favourite might be Radiohead. Again TONS of stuff going on onstage, five very good musicians playing (imo) pretty great music, with loads of instruments on the go. Big lights for that wow factor. A proper mental frontman who loses himself in the moment all the time, and still has room for some banter. They make mistakes a good bit, but they always seem to make fun of them and recover nice and quickly.

    But then I'm a sucker for any band with a modular synthesiser in their live setup :cool:

    The Hives are great! Howlin' Pelle is such a good frontman, and their ultimate arrogance thing is so entertaining to watch. They play the **** out of everything, with an insane guitarist and drummer. Really good fun band, but they kinda lack the seriousness I like in a good show.

    Bruce Springsteen is a master at this kind of stuff. If you want to see how to put on a live show, get the live DVD from New York City (I think it was in 2000). Every move of every member on stage is perfect, and they do sooo much more than just bang out the tunes. Bruce ALWAYS nails that connection, he could be playing to one person in the house, and he'd still give it socks. And if you see the London Calling DVD that was just released, the guy's still doing it at 60!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭The_D_Man


    Radiohead were just colossal live, definitely the best live act ive seen. Prodigy are very good as well. Does anyone notice that an awful lot of singers cant sing for **** live though?

    Oh yeah, Queens of the Stone age deserve a mention too, solid live band.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    The_D_Man wrote: »
    Does anyone notice that an awful lot of singers cant sing for **** live though?

    I don't mind that so much. In a studio, there's no excuse not to have everything done perfectly, but dodgy vocals live, I think it adds to the authenticity/sincerity of everything. Thom Yorke can't sing very well live, but he's a damn good frontman. Wayne Coyne's in the same boat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    El Pr0n wrote: »
    Bruce Springsteen is a master at this kind of stuff. If you want to see how to put on a live show, get the live DVD from New York City (I think it was in 2000). Every move of every member on stage is perfect, and they do sooo much more than just bang out the tunes. Bruce ALWAYS nails that connection, he could be playing to one person in the house, and he'd still give it socks. And if you see the London Calling DVD that was just released, the guy's still doing it at 60!!

    This. There is nobody that comes close to this man. Nobody.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭The_D_Man


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1nFB-R-_gI

    singing aint too bad here, not too polished but isnt a guttural cacophany at the same time!


    Love this song though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    The_D_Man wrote: »
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1nFB-R-_gI

    singing aint too bad here, not too polished but isnt a guttural cacophany at the same time!


    Love this song though!

    Hey, that could be a bluegrass tune in that arrangement! :p

    Thom's voice isn't nearly perfect here, but it does the job that way, I think;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JUlCU04p94


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,939 ✭✭✭mardybumbum


    Prodigy are the best live act that I have ever seen.
    I went to slane for Oasis but came back with a new favourite band.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭Adyx


    El Pr0n wrote: »
    I don't mind that so much. In a studio, there's no excuse not to have everything done perfectly, but dodgy vocals live, I think it adds to the authenticity/sincerity of everything. Thom Yorke can't sing very well live, but he's a damn good frontman. Wayne Coyne's in the same boat.

    Ah yes but then there's Ian Brown.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭nommm


    Muse are by far the best live band I've ever seen. Especially back in 2001/2002. The energy Matt Bellamy had on stage was unreal. They're still good these days but it pales in comparison to what they once were.
    El Pr0n wrote: »
    I don't get why Muse are put around as such a great live band - they've got expensive stage equipment, that doesn't make them great. If you go to see a band, and they're too busy up on fifty-foot platforms surrounded by lights and lazers, where's that connection between artist and audience? The whole point of a gig is lost on Muse.

    Muse gained it's best live band repuation from the gig's it did from 2001 -2004. They've only really gone lights and stage show crazy on the last 2 tours and I think they still make a connection with the audience even if the stage show restricts them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭mle1324


    Obviously not at the moment but jasus Queen @ Live Aid was something else :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,883 ✭✭✭smokedeels


    For me, the best live band in a rock context is The Fall. total precision, every note and movement dictated by Mark E. Smith, "stand there, play this, times up, let's go". No messing about or cheesy stage antics. You're lucky if you get an hour from them, live performance without the bloat you get from other bands.

    I once watched a live recording from the mid-eighties, in the video the guitarist and bass player switch sides during a song, Smith pauses mid-song to tell them both to "get it together" and drop the stage-moves because "we're not f**king U2".

    I'd rather a dictatorial curmudgeon like Smith - bare bones, than a revolving stage or 40+ American lads in badly applied eye-liner getting kids up to play their instruments for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    See Radiohead actually change up the music live instead of playing a best of. This is why I think they're the best live show I've ever seen 3 or 4 times. And I've seen a bunch of the groups mentioned in the thread, but not Greenday cos they're terribad. And Rammstein because I have a fear of being ejaculated upon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭siltirocker


    nommm wrote: »
    Muse are by far the best live band I've ever seen. Especially back in 2001/2002. The energy Matt Bellamy had on stage was unreal. They're still good these days but it pales in comparison to what they once were.



    Muse gained it's best live band repuation from the gig's it did from 2001 -2004. They've only really gone lights and stage show crazy on the last 2 tours and I think they still make a connection with the audience even if the stage show restricts them.

    Ay hey man that's not true at all. Post small shows and pre stadium gigs Muse were farcical live. No lights show/no crowd interaction/no intimatcy. Hulabaloo and Absolution were terrible tours. Average setlist on Absolution tour was 1hr 10mins. WTF like??? Saw them in Earls Court and Bellamy said "Thank You!" twice during the gig and that being his entire reaction with us. I've seen Muse 6 times and beside Heineken Green Energy gig nearly a decade ago and London in '07 they've aways been sub-par live in my books. It's the fact that they've good songs that keeps it rolling along if you get my drift. If Muse did a rarities show fans would not be pleased and of course why not i paid €60 to hear Starlight and Muscle Museum not Shine Acoustic or something.

    Where you at that farce in Dublin 2006?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭thesultan


    the golden era of live performing was the late sixties. I would put The who's set at Isle of wight up there with anything. Zeppelin were at they best around 71, Rory Gallagher around 74 to 76 were breathtaking , stones were pretty great too.

    Of the modern era I devine anyone who can top Pearl Jam as a live draw. They are amazing and constantly change their set list. Ocean Colour scene are pretty amazing too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia


    A few that haven't already been mentioned:

    Grizzly Bear: Very grateful and good-natured toward the audience, wide-ranging setlists, expert playing, great atmosphere.
    Rage Against the Machine: Pretty much as above; there's a real sense that the band realise there's no point in doing what they're doing without the audience.
    Rufus Wainwright: Born for the stage. His solo show in the Grand Canal Theatre recently was spectacular.
    Arcade Fire: One word: Energy!
    Kings of Leon: These guys are seriously hardcore, I hear they're eating **** on stage now... :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭fincollins


    :eek:

    Pearl Jam!

    :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭nommm


    Ay hey man that's not true at all. Post small shows and pre stadium gigs Muse were farcical live. No lights show/no crowd interaction/no intimatcy. Hulabaloo and Absolution were terrible tours. Average setlist on Absolution tour was 1hr 10mins. WTF like??? Saw them in Earls Court and Bellamy said "Thank You!" twice during the gig and that being his entire reaction with us. I've seen Muse 6 times and beside Heineken Green Energy gig nearly a decade ago and London in '07 they've aways been sub-par live in my books. It's the fact that they've good songs that keeps it rolling along if you get my drift. If Muse did a rarities show fans would not be pleased and of course why not i paid €60 to hear Starlight and Muscle Museum not Shine Acoustic or something.

    Where you at that farce in Dublin 2006?

    No I didn't go see them in 2006. I saw them several times before that though. Earls Court was one of the best gigs I've ever attended. Then again I don't particularly care for stage banter as most of the time it seems false to me.

    And fans wouldn't be pleased if they did a rarities show? Most of the Muse fans I know complain about the fact that recent setlists look like their greatest hits CD.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭jazoo


    Neil young was the best last year in the o2 finishing with a day in the life was just so cool and the best irish band has to be the frames they have so much energy..... or bruce (seen him a few times) he knows how to get it goin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭siltirocker


    nommm wrote: »
    No I didn't go see them in 2006. I saw them several times before that though. Earls Court was one of the best gigs I've ever attended. Then again I don't particularly care for stage banter as most of the time it seems false to me.

    And fans wouldn't be pleased if they did a rarities show? Most of the Muse fans I know complain about the fact that recent setlists look like their greatest hits CD.

    That's exactly my point. Back in the early naughties the show were filled with hardcore fans who would love a rarities shows. Now at the big stadium gigs if they didn't play the hits there would be war as the majority of fans are casual fans, like a KOL or U2 show. Im not saying any of this is the band's fault - i ****in' love Muse but it's still a problem and something i personally have no time for. Bands like Pearl Jam, Bruce Springsteen, Radiohead, etc play completely different setlists every night and their is no fracus at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Ay hey man that's not true at all. Post small shows and pre stadium gigs Muse were farcical live. No lights show/no crowd interaction/no intimatcy. Hulabaloo and Absolution were terrible tours. Average setlist on Absolution tour was 1hr 10mins. WTF like??? Saw them in Earls Court and Bellamy said "Thank You!" twice during the gig and that being his entire reaction with us. I've seen Muse 6 times and beside Heineken Green Energy gig nearly a decade ago and London in '07 they've aways been sub-par live in my books. It's the fact that they've good songs that keeps it rolling along if you get my drift. If Muse did a rarities show fans would not be pleased and of course why not i paid €60 to hear Starlight and Muscle Museum not Shine Acoustic or something.

    Where you at that farce in Dublin 2006?

    What was wrong with the gig in 06?

    I've seen Muse 7 times (soon to be 8) in various settings and each time it's been amazing.

    I dont pay top dollar to listen to some wanker massage the egos of the crowd, I'm there for the music. I'd take the odd thank you over some pretentious speech any day of the week.

    Btw, the Absolution Tour set in Dublin in 04 had 18 songs in it. You were hardly robbed seeing them then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ICE HOUSE


    I was at the green day gig in marley park a few weeks ago and they were good but not great.
    AC/DC or ZZ Top are some of the greatest ive saw live.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    U2 and Neil Young both number 1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 Sleepless In West Cork


    i'd put 2Phat2Phunk up there with crystal swing as a great local pop act - fantastic on stage


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 funnyvic


    um, queen? love them:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭siltirocker


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    What was wrong with the gig in 06?

    I've seen Muse 7 times (soon to be 8) in various settings and each time it's been amazing.

    I dont pay top dollar to listen to some wanker massage the egos of the crowd, I'm there for the music. I'd take the odd thank you over some pretentious speech any day of the week.

    Btw, the Absolution Tour set in Dublin in 04 had 18 songs in it. You were hardly robbed seeing them then.

    The '06 Dublin gig was a joke imo. Poor sound and flat performance that was over in no time.

    Besides that you're not really replying to my message. I never said i was being robbed. I never stated that they were rip-offs. I never said they're always **** live. I never said i prefer pretentious speeches either lol.

    I've went to see them 4 times before for a reason.

    But yes i wouldn't be pleased going to a band of such quality and especially youth and only getting 18 songs. That in my opinion (for a large gig of that size) is not enough, maybe for a festival that's fine but not for a gig.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 drunknmunky_21


    Bruce Springsteen and the E street band...by far the most incredible concert i have ever been to. For a 60 year old man to be able to bring such energy and passion to a stage for 3 hours.It was amazing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 !Pablo Fanquez!


    MY AMP GOES UP TO 11.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    muse and u2 are fantastic live and well worth the money but the best band Ive ever seen live and Ive seen them numerous times are kasabian they get better with each performance and the crowd involvement is unbelievable for a band with only 3 albums under there belt and are still young enough they are great entertainment truly enjoyable


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭DerekDGoldfish


    Lightning Bolt are insanly fun to watch live


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭hypermuse


    TheBandit wrote: »
    I seen Muse live in Toronto a few years ago, they absolutely blew me away. I'm not a big Muse fan but would say they probably put on the best gig i've seen, not my favourite though that honour is reserved for Rodger Walters doing Dark Side of the Moon live. As for Green Day i've never seen them live but i really dislike them and don't think i could even give them a chance live even if they preformed well....i'm prejudiced :(
    El Pr0n wrote: »
    I think too many people think a band is a great live band just because they like the songs, and they songs are well-played. Any band who can't play all their tunes perfectly (alright, everyone makes mistakes now and then) shouldn't be playing gigs.

    Billie Joe Armstrong is an awesome frontman, he does it all perfectly for Green Day's style and type of music and all.

    I don't get why Muse are put around as such a great live band - they've got expensive stage equipment, that doesn't make them great. If you go to see a band, and they're too busy up on fifty-foot platforms surrounded by lights and lazers, where's that connection between artist and audience? The whole point of a gig is lost on Muse.



    Greenday are a complete different kettle of fish.. Songs are not half as good but will be loved by the pop rock culture.. (hey I've got an idea.. lets write a riff and just keep playing it over and over again.. That makes a song rite!)

    Their stage performance involves alot of crowd interaction which I dont really like that much as its all false and fake.. they spend 20 mins getting different parts of the crowd to weeehhyy-woooooo..

    Such a waste and not worth seeing.



    Muse are a fantastic LIVE band.. Best I have ever seen.. EVER!

    They never do interact with the crowd much but that really doesnt bother me.. I'd much prefer to hear them rocking out the tunes than talking crap!

    I can see where El Pr0n;67281917 is coming from about the stage setup alrite thou.. Back in the day.. 2001 era.. they were just a band on stage doing the best live performances that no band could match. that was epic!!

    I still think they have that live edge over the rest but I some of the over the top stage props are not needed.. (but still amazing none the less)
    nommm wrote: »
    No I didn't go see them in 2006. I saw them several times before that though. Earls Court was one of the best gigs I've ever attended. Then again I don't particularly care for stage banter as most of the time it seems false to me.

    And fans wouldn't be pleased if they did a rarities show? Most of the Muse fans I know complain about the fact that recent setlists look like their greatest hits CD.


    when MUSE play festivels they always have a greatest hits kind of approach coz all of the people at a festival are not MUSE fans!! so they play a setlist that will appeal to everybody!!

    When you go to more intimate gigs they always play something fantastic that you dont expect in the mix..

    They usually play either citizen erased or microcuts.. 2 of the big fan favourites!!

    I've seen MUSE 9 or 10 times now.. cant keep track.. and I'm off to Wembley stadium again in September.. If I had the money and the time I'd follow them all around the world!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭Asphyxia


    AC/DC!!!! I went to see them last year in punchestown, I got right up to the top barrier and free passes into the mosh pit. They blew me away from the minute they came on stage, definately the best band I have seen live.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 ExogenesisMuse


    I saw Muse for the first time at Wembley on the 10th September. They were absolutely incredible! They blew me away! I see why they've won so many best live act awards! I recommend seeing Muse! Matt Bellamy, Dom Howard, Chris Wolstenholme, AMAZING!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭hypermuse


    I saw Muse for the first time at Wembley on the 10th September. They were absolutely incredible! They blew me away! I see why they've won so many best live act awards! I recommend seeing Muse! Matt Bellamy, Dom Howard, Chris Wolstenholme, AMAZING!!


    I was at Wembley myself also! Went to both gigs and the 2nd nite on sat 11th was by far a much better gig...

    not because of performance but because the setlist was far superior!! Was amazing to see them again thou!! Defo best live band at the moment!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,494 ✭✭✭finbarrk


    Pink Floyd in the 80s for me anyway. Stones next.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 ExogenesisMuse


    hypermuse wrote: »
    I was at Wembley myself also! Went to both gigs and the 2nd nite on sat 11th was by far a much better gig...

    not because of performance but because the setlist was far superior!! Was amazing to see them again thou!! Defo best live band at the moment!!!
    I wanted to go on Saturday too but it was sold out! It's not fair Sat got Ruled By Secrecy, Bliss, Citizen Erased and MK Ultra! I got Guiding Light and Neutron Star Collision lol were you standing or seated on Friday? I was seated Level 5.
    I agree they are the best live band at the moment! They've always been the best live band :D:D:) lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭ItsAWindUp


    The Prodigy are the best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭siltirocker


    ItsAWindUp wrote: »
    The Prodigy are the best.

    Ah c'mon now. They play about 20/25 songs from a collection of 40 every single gig. It can be a great show though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,814 ✭✭✭TPD


    Nine Inch Nails usually put on a pretty good live show.



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