Legislation From the Irish Government Will Allow Foreign Police On Irish Streets.

Run_to_da_hills

The Irish Government are currently drawing up legislation that would allow Gardai to be sent abroad to other E.U countries and for foreign police forces to be sent here to police Irish streets.

We were warned many times coming up to the Lisbon Treaty that this would be the situation if the treaty passed. This was denied by our Government and dismissed as conspiracy theory nonsense at the time, However as warned this is exactly what is happening now.

We will be sold off by the media and Governments that this is a good thing, fighting so call terrorism when in fact it is one step closer towards a global facist state.

Thanks again to all those that voted Yes in this farcical referendum.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/gardai-get-new-powers-to-tackle-terrorists-overseas-2281787.html

Maybe they'll smack the junkies instead of letting them terrorise/harrass people

owenc

No harm to them i wouldn't like foreign police controlling my streets they could do anything, thank god we didn't do that treaty!! Is this the start of them trying to join up all the european contries which have no similarites to here at all?:rolleyes:

WindSock

But how will I talk my way out of a ticket by using my connections now?

Keano

Has Jim Corr hacked into the OP's account.

The Waltzing Consumer

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The Irish Government are currently drawing up legislation that would allow Gardai to be sent abroad to other E.U countries and for foreign police forces to be sent here to police Irish streets.

We were warned many times coming up to the Lisbon Treaty that this would be the situation if the treaty passed. This was denied by our Government and dismissed as conspiracy theory nonsense at the time, However as warned this is exactly what is happening now.

We will be sold off by the media and Governments that this is a good thing, fighting so call terrorism when in fact it is one step closer towards a global facist state.

Thanks again to all those that voted Yes in this farcical referendum.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/gardai-get-new-powers-to-tackle-terrorists-overseas-2281787.html

:rolleyes: Are you a member of Coir/Youth Defence?

Nodin

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The Irish Government are currently drawing up legislation that would allow Gardai to be sent abroad to other E.U countries and for foreign police forces to be sent here to police Irish streets.

My bollocks they are.

From article linked in OP wrote:

The legislative measure, currently being drafted, will allow the ERU to be dispatched to another European state to help local police tackle a terrorist or criminal-related crisis.
It will also give the go-ahead for the authorities here to request the assistance of a special intervention unit from another European force if this country is confronted by a similar crisis.

Try reading it without the glasses that came with the Cadburys Fruit and nut.

prinz

Allows garda unit be sent overseas in the event their help is requested by foreign police forces due to a major crisis and vice versa. Standard fare tbh. Far cry from policing the streets.

What next, britscum planes patrolling our skies after a terrorist attack?

Keano

Nodin wrote: »

My bollocks they are.



Try reading it without the glasses that came with the Cadburys Fruit and nut.

I was just about to post that paragraph.

Wazdakka

WindSock wrote: »

But how will I talk my way out of a ticket by using my connections now?

Tits will work with any nationality.

conno3001

"Security officials last night acknowledged it was unlikely the measure would be used by the Government here unless there was a threatened total breakdown in law and order."

Yeah its martial law alright... :rolleyes:

thebigbiffo

did you even read the report? are you always this paranoid?

chill the f'uck out, big euro brother is not about about to repress the sh'it out of us just yet

owenc

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

What next, britscum planes patrolling our skies after a terrorist attack?

Aw god here we go:rolleyes:.... EVERY SINGLE THREAD

mikom

Hope they send over some Roma police to sort our Roma problem.....

Sulmac

owenc wrote: »

No harm to them i wouldn't like foreign police controlling my streets they could do anything, thank god we didn't do that treaty!! Is this the start of them trying to join up all the european contries which have no similarites to here at all?:rolleyes:

Uh, yes you did. Every EU member state did.

Cool. Maybe a combined force could actually do something about the bleedin' gangs of Dublin/Limerick.

owenc

Sulmac wrote: »

Uh, yes you did. Every EU member state did.

Oh.. did they not reject it because some poll said 70% of the county didn't want it or something. EDIT: we did, but who cares i couldn't care less i don't want to have anything to do with any european country trying to take all our money and has nothing in similarity to us so they can just get lost!

General Zod

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The Irish Government are currently drawing up legislation that would allow Gardai to be sent abroad to other E.U countries and for foreign police forces to be sent here to police Irish streets.

We were warned many times coming up to the Lisbon Treaty that this would be the situation if the treaty passed. This was denied by our Government and dismissed as conspiracy theory nonsense at the time, However as warned this is exactly what is happening now.

We will be sold off by the media and Governments that this is a good thing, fighting so call terrorism when in fact it is one step closer towards a global facist state.

Thanks again to all those that voted Yes in this farcical referendum.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/gardai-get-new-powers-to-tackle-terrorists-overseas-2281787.html

How do you walk outsie your door without seeing a conspiracy in everything?

mikom

owenc wrote: »

because some poll said 70% of the county

That's a very insular view.

Nevermind_

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

We were warned many times coming up to the Lisbon Treaty that this would be the situation if the treaty passed. This was denied by our Government and dismissed as conspiracy theory nonsense at the time, However as warned this is exactly what is happening now.

Ah jaysus RTDH do you ever tire of writing this crap?
Also interesting link to the "Gnostic Liberation Front" (probably quite believable if you like licking windows)

starbelgrade

Bloody foreigners, coming over here, policing our foreigners.

dlofnep

It basically says that only im emergencies, where our own emergency response is not adaquete we can get help from other EU forces. I don't see a big problem with this to be honest. However, if it's abused - and allows other foreign forces to gather intelligence on Irish citizens - then that is something that should be addressed.

prinz

General Zod wrote: »

How do you walk outsie your door without seeing a conspiracy in everything?

There are no doors to walk outside of anymore :eek:. It was in Lisbon.

drdeadlift

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

What next, britscum planes patrolling our skies after a terrorist attack?

Why would that be a bad thing? is it the whole 800year thing

General Zod

owenc wrote: »

No harm to them i wouldn't like foreign police controlling my streets they could do anything

Welcome to the nationalist community! :pac:

owenc

drdeadlift wrote: »

Why would that be a bad thing? is it the whole 800year thing

probably and is it not 900 years now. Who cares its just stupid saying what he said.

Cookie_Monster

thebigbiffo wrote: »

did you even read the report? are you always this paranoid?

yes, have a search of threads...

owenc

General Zod wrote: »

Welcome to the nationalist community! :pac:

No thanks.

General Zod

owenc wrote: »

No thanks.

Because the view you expressed regarding foreign police is exactly how they felt about the RUC.

owenc

General Zod wrote: »

Because the view you expressed regarding foreign police is exactly how they felt about the RUC.

The RUC are native people to northern ireland.. my dad was in it hes native.. what do you mean?

Dave!

But it can only be used where a member state's own emergency-response teams are unable to cope with a particular crisis and seek help from elsewhere in the EU.

It does not cover natural disasters, such as earthquakes or floods.

A member state can seek such specialist assistance where a criminal or terrorist offence poses a serious threat to the security of the country.

Security officials last night acknowledged it was unlikely the measure would be used by the Government here unless there was a threatened total breakdown in law and order.

Surely that gives peace of mind, no?

Another crash and burn from RTDH

Good work mate

johnmcdnl

Personally I have a major problem with this legislation - say in the event of the "terrorists" attacking Britain again our guards could be expected to go to England to put their lives at risk to defend the English people...

Now if I was to join the guards I'd be joining up knowing that there's the possibility of injury/possibly death but it'd be for the Irish people... I wouldn't be worrying about international terrorists targeting Ireland because I feel Irish foreign policy on attacking middle east states is sound enough to prevent Ireland ever becoming a target...

If any of our guards are ever injured because they have to serve on foreign soil it's a disgrace - They didn't sign up to fight someone else's war - they signed up to enforce the law in this country... not another country who's laws and policies make it a prime target to be attacked...

HavingCrack

owenc wrote: »

Aw god here we go:rolleyes:.... EVERY SINGLE THREAD

owenc wrote: »

Oh.. did they not reject it because some poll said 70% of the county didn't want it or something. EDIT: we did, but who cares i couldn't care less i don't want to have anything to do with any european country trying to take all our money and has nothing in similarity to us so they can just get lost!

OWEN PLEASE STOP TAKING THE BAIT :pac:, you do it in every single thread. By the way the United Kingdom is part of the Lisbon Treaty whether you like it or not so I don't see how you think that you aren't????

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6901353.stm

Cookie_Monster

but they'd get danger money and over time, they'd all be up for it.

owenc

HavingCrack wrote: »

OWEN PLEASE STOP TAKING THE BAIT :pac:, you do it in every single thread. By the way the United Kingdom is part of the Lisbon Treaty whether you like it or not so I don't see how you think that you aren't????

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6901353.stm

Idk its confusing i don't care too much about it so maybe the last time i heard about it was when they were discussing joining it..

who the fug

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

but they'd get danger money and over time, they'd all be up for it.

And if they are based in London, they get to kill brazillians

biko

I hope they bring over some yummy Iraqi police

El Siglo

Rabble rabble rabble rabble loss of independence rabble rabble rabble 1916 rabble rabble RUC... Stupid thread.

Mark200

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Thanks again to all those that voted Yes in this farcical referendum.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/gardai-get-new-powers-to-tackle-terrorists-overseas-2281787.html

Did you even read the article you linked to? It was first implemented in other European countries after the Madrid bombings.

NOTHING TO DO WITH LISBON.

Also, it's only if the police force of the country in question request assistance from other EU police forces.

Your paranoia is ridiculous sometimes.

K4t

johnmcdnl wrote: »

Personally I have a major problem with this legislation - say in the event of the "terrorists" attacking Britain again our guards could be expected to go to England to put their lives at risk to defend the English people...

Now if I was to join the guards I'd be joining up knowing that there's the possibility of injury/possibly death but it'd be for the Irish people... I wouldn't be worrying about international terrorists targeting Ireland because I feel Irish foreign policy on attacking middle east states is sound enough to prevent Ireland ever becoming a target...

If any of our guards are ever injured because they have to serve on foreign soil it's a disgrace - They didn't sign up to fight someone else's war - they signed up to enforce the law in this country... not another country who's laws and policies make it a prime target to be attacked...

Excellent point.

I wonder does our government have a say in the matter if such a situation arose whereby another EU country requested Irish Gardai to aid them?

dlofnep

owenc wrote: »

The RUC are native people to northern ireland.. my dad was in it hes native.. what do you mean?

Ah, so that explains your views.

General Zod

El Siglo wrote: »

Rabble rabble rabble rabble loss of independence rabble rabble rabble 1916 rabble rabble RUC... Stupid thread.

Was just remarking on a contrapoint to Owen's usual patter on boards.

Mark200

johnmcdnl wrote: »

Personally I have a major problem with this legislation - say in the event of the "terrorists" attacking Britain again our guards could be expected to go to England to put their lives at risk to defend the English people...

Now if I was to join the guards I'd be joining up knowing that there's the possibility of injury/possibly death but it'd be for the Irish people... I wouldn't be worrying about international terrorists targeting Ireland because I feel Irish foreign policy on attacking middle east states is sound enough to prevent Ireland ever becoming a target...

If any of our guards are ever injured because they have to serve on foreign soil it's a disgrace - They didn't sign up to fight someone else's war - they signed up to enforce the law in this country... not another country who's laws and policies make it a prime target to be attacked...

As said in the first line of the article, it's only the highly trained Garda elite squad that would be requested to do this. It's up to the Irish Govt whether they want to send assistance or not.


Also, I'm sick of people pointing at the EU doing something they don't like and blaming it on people voting for Lisbon. It just further backs up the idea that the no voters (in general) didn't have a clue what Lisbon was about.

owenc

General Zod wrote: »

Was just remarking on a contrapoint to Owen's usual patter on boards.

*sigh* I have an interest in politics through at unionist view so you should expect me to say things like that, but no i am a loser because i do this, its not fair the way i have to get banned because of this, its discrimination. Look just forget about this i don't want a permabann.

evercloserunion

johnmcdnl wrote: »

Personally I have a major problem with this legislation - say in the event of the "terrorists" attacking Britain again our guards could be expected to go to England to put their lives at risk to defend the English people...

Now if I was to join the guards I'd be joining up knowing that there's the possibility of injury/possibly death but it'd be for the Irish people... I wouldn't be worrying about international terrorists targeting Ireland because I feel Irish foreign policy on attacking middle east states is sound enough to prevent Ireland ever becoming a target...

If any of our guards are ever injured because they have to serve on foreign soil it's a disgrace - They didn't sign up to fight someone else's war - they signed up to enforce the law in this country... not another country who's laws and policies make it a prime target to be attacked...

What about Irish people who die on UN sanctioned peacekeeping missions so, is that a disgrace? We've been sending our people abroad to serve in different countries for years, because our concept of justice and order goes beyond narrow self-interest.

If we ever suffered a major man made or natural disaster and didn't have sufficient resources to deal with it ourselves I would be hoping and praying that other countries don't share your attitude and would be willing to send people over to help.

Dionysus

General Zod wrote: »

Welcome to the nationalist community! :pac:

hehe. Daggers in that there tongue.

owenc wrote: »

The RUC are native people to northern ireland.. my dad was in it hes native.. what do you mean?

Yes, and a large number of the Pied Noir were "native to Algeria", an accident of birth which was of minor relevancy when they were torturing the native Algerians on behalf of the French state they claimed nationality from, and loyalty to, in the 1950s and 1960s (before some 900,000 of them were forced to flee Algeria in 1962 and "return" to France).

Dionysus

El Siglo wrote: »

Rabble rabble rabble rabble....

Not very original of you, in fairness.

eightyfish

johnmcdnl wrote: »

Personally I have a major problem with this legislation - say in the event of the "terrorists" attacking Britain again our guards could be expected to go to England to put their lives at risk to defend the English people...

Damn right. There's no "us" and "them" with the UK. We are closer than we have ever been as countries. The UK is not the UK of the past, as we are not the Ireland of the past. We are all European citizens. If London was in trouble, or Paris, and people over there were in danger, I'd expect the Irish police force to lend a hand if needs be. And vice versa.

mikom

eightyfish wrote: »

If London was in trouble, or Paris, and people over there were in danger, I'd expect the Irish police force to lend a hand if needs be. And vice versa.

Lend a hand to Paris......

Cookie_Monster

eightyfish wrote: »

If London was in trouble, or Paris, and people over there were in danger, I'd expect the Irish police force to lend a hand if needs be. And vice versa.

why, what could our measly Garda "force" do that the British or French army couldn't simply step in and do instead.

I'm not sure I get the point of this legislation, apart maybe from info sharing, but that's what Europol is for