Crysis 2 Delayed until 2011

GTR63

I knew it was going to happen,i've a feeling L.A. Noire is next to be confirmed for a delay.I Read it on Vg247.com (don't know how to post a link).I wish it came out this year cause Christmas is looking more & more bare unless you own both PS3 & a Xbox 360. 2011 will be class you have this,Gears 3,Dead Space 2,Deus Ex, Bulletstorm,Rage & Arkham Asylum 2.

Overheal

from what I read a few days ago they are planning to launch CryEngine 3 in conjunction with the next generation of consoles which according to Crytek, are expected to roll out in 2011/12 but frankly I don't see that happening; who's even heard of the PS3/360 Predecessors?

TomCo

Overheal wrote: »

who's even heard of the PS3/360 Predecessors?

I think plenty of people have heard of the PS2 and the Xbox. :pac:

Overheal

Er, the other thing. The forward thing. Word? Word.

wayne040576

Overheal wrote: »

Er, the other thing. The forward thing. Word? Word.

Successor.

Or just say the one what comes after.

ChuckNorrisgod

i keep hearing the rumors but will it ever come out on the x box 360 or playstation 3

Fnz

Rumour has it, they're adding dinosaurs to the game, and altering the title, slightly.

witnessmenow

Cryasourous

Overheal

the exoskeletons could be piloted by dinosoars...

Shiminay

I saw it running on a 360 at the EA Showcase, they're definitely releasing it on this gen of consoles.

gizmo

No big surprise really, it's just a repeat of last year with some of the bigger titles moving into Q1 of next year in order to miss the pre-holiday rush.

Otacon

gizmo wrote: »

No big surprise really, it's just a repeat of last year with some of the bigger titles moving into Q1 of next year in order to miss the pre-holiday rush.

Last year they had MW2 to avoid though. What's out this year?

gizmo

Otacon wrote: »

Last year they had MW2 to avoid though. What's out this year?

Black Ops?

Otacon

gizmo wrote: »

Black Ops?

Ah yes, by that other crowd. :pac:

I saw a tweet from PSM3 magazine that said Crysis 2 was delayed until Q4 2011? Are we sure its Q1?

Skerries

well they are advertising it for current gen consoles
and the graphics looks current
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvtn-01R-6M&feature=related

i really can't see them releasing a new console any time soon as consoles can play anything that high end pc graphics cards can at the moment and until they start upping the ante for pc games it's going to stay that way for awhile
People are finding less and less reasons to build new gaming machines as they are still based around console quality
i have a 4 year old pc with a 2 year old gfx card and can take anything thrown at it on good settings

KilOit

Skerries wrote: »

well they are advertising it for current gen consoles
and the graphics looks current
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvtn-01R-6M&feature=related

i really can't see them releasing a new console any time soon as consoles can play anything that high end pc graphics cards can at the moment and until they start upping the ante for pc games it's going to stay that way for awhile
People are finding less and less reasons to build new gaming machines as they are still based around console quality
i have a 4 year old pc with a 2 year old gfx card and can take anything thrown at it on good settings

Can play a dumbed down version of it alright but consoles are a good bit behind what current cards can do, but yeah consoles are really holding advancement in computer graphics in games to random because thats the main source of cash.

Fnz

Overheal wrote: »

the exoskeletons could be piloted by dinosoars...

That would be pretty irresponsible!

Captain: "What you say, ensign?"
Ensign: "Sir! I'm afraid it's the dinosaurs from the Cognition Amplification Kombat Exoskeleton trials; there's been... complications, since employing rage virus protein extracts to bolster effectiveness of the cognitive link fluid!"
Captain: "I don't recall there being wiggle room for "complications" - it would either be super-awesome, or we'd have a Crysis on our hands!"
Ensign: "..."
Captain: "Christ! A Crysis, featuring Dinos; get Regina down here!"

Shiminay

I think the thing about Crysis 2 is that it's cashing in on a franchise and will spark a bit of cross platform interest. For the PC gamers, Crysis was and still is a benchmark in pushing the envelope of what a computer can do. As a result, it's gained a special place in the minds of gamers. The game itself wasn't bad, but was, I think it's fair to say, just a useful way of showing off the game engine.

I would agree that consoles have had a drastic and somewhat detrimental effect on gaming as a whole, but it's not all bad. More people play games now because of them. However, as with all things, when you try to appeal to a wider audience, you have to make allowances for more "mainstream" tastes.

So I think Crysis 2 will probably be a decent game, but I don't see it pushing any envelopes in the way the first did. They did say there'll be the ability to turn things up to 11 on the PC, but ultimately that's not going to add anything to a game that's been designed with the limitations of a console in mind. Shinier graphics do not a good game make.

marco_polo

Otacon wrote: »

Ah yes, by that other crowd. :pac:

I saw a tweet from PSM3 magazine that said Crysis 2 was delayed until Q4 2011? Are we sure its Q1?

The Q4 thing looks to be a mistake on one site that in this age of quality internet journalism has been copypasta'd around the globe.

gizmo

Kharn wrote: »

I think the thing about Crysis 2 is that it's cashing in on a franchise and will spark a bit of cross platform interest. For the PC gamers, Crysis was and still is a benchmark in pushing the envelope of what a computer can do. As a result, it's gained a special place in the minds of gamers. The game itself wasn't bad, but was, I think it's fair to say, just a useful way of showing off the game engine.

I'd disagree on the cashing in comment with regards Crysis 2 to be honest. Not only did the original not sell spectacularly well, but the sequel has necessitated some pretty extensive work to their engine, not exactly the hallmarks of a cash-in title.

From Crytek's point of view, they've applied their talents to a console version while also not forsaking the PC version. I think we're almost guaranteed another fantastic looking PC game which will push our machines even further than the original but also a console game which will not only look stunning but also provide the developer with some much needed revenue with which to push further boundaries in the future.

Kharn wrote: »

So I think Crysis 2 will probably be a decent game, but I don't see it pushing any envelopes in the way the first did. They did say there'll be the ability to turn things up to 11 on the PC, but ultimately that's not going to add anything to a game that's been designed with the limitations of a console in mind. Shinier graphics do not a good game make.

I'm somewhat confused by this paragraph, what boundaries do you want the game to push? One doesn't need the additional power of the PC to push narrative or other non-aesthetic related game design boundaries. If anything, given the "limited" power of consoles, we've seen far more advances in the last couple of years on those particular platforms than we did on the PC. Ico and Shadow Of The Colossus for example? Or the likes of Uncharted 2 and Heavy Rain on the new consoles?

In the case of Crysis 2, I'm actually more interested in seeing what they can do in the closer confines of a cityscape with a more focused story than they can in a more open-world jungle setting.

PogMoThoin

Consoleitis is only really a problem when it leads to poor controls, checkpoint saving, stupidly easy or other gameplay related restrictions.......nearly always does

gizmo

While I have no problem with checkpoint saving as long as it's done properly, the rest is true.

Case in point, my own personal bugbear...



:mad:

GTR63

Is there any chance they're delaying it to remake Crysis 1 for Xbox 360 & PS3.I know its unlikely they'd delay it just for that but they might be doing it so they could bundle them together.

Monotype

Release date was announced - March 22nd, 2011 in North America and March 25th, 2011 in Europe.

Duggy747

It's all part of optimising for the consoles. Whatever about the PC, look at the monsters you were expected to have when Crysis 1 came out on it?

We won't be seeing successors for the PS3 / Xbox 360 for another while yet, both machines (especially the PS3) haven't even been pushed to their limits yet.

Damn it, though, I was really looking forward to this game.

Overheal

They can tune it to consoles all they like so long as it still says to itself "Oh look Im on a PC" and melts my card with frames of glory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHLEbuj5x6Q

And it appears, there will be differences between the console and PC CryEngine3's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D9oINHI11E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcgpM1RPKd8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMZEO3z4maE

Monotype

That third video is more logos than content. :eek:

I'm just hoping that the console versions will fund future PC versions and that they won't be tempted to the dark side of consoles only.

Overheal

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/be-the-crysis-2/708600

HD Trailer. Date Announced March 22, 2011.

Looks pretty damn good, as a game, not a benchmark tool. This article here gives me hope, and really puts the finger on why this is probably not going to end up like so many FPS offerings of the last year or two:

http://kotaku.com/5713750/crysis-2-is-for-future+soldiers-who-want-to-think

And oh yeah: a good game that someone wants to put on PC? Pinch me.

Kiith

Bumpage....multiplayer trailer released. Actually looks pretty damn good (and graphically amazing).
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/invaders-must-crysis-2/709638

gizmo

I pre-ordered the Nano Edition for the PC the other day, here's hoping it's as good as it looks in that trailer.

Overheal

I started playing the first one in Delta a couple days ago. About to infiltrate the mine.

Looking forward to this. Except that in Delta difficulty I do NOT want to have to deal with omnipotent Helicopters. OMFG these helicopters.

less excited about multiplayer if its anything like crysis wars. tried that for an hour last night: only found punkester-off servers, and aimbotting sluts. Needs to be much more Cat and Mouse for my liking.

PogMoThoin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8UJve2Eidg

Looks shíte, very cramped small maps aimed at consoles, imagine 32+ players on those maps :eek:. Crysis Wars had big maps and vehicles.
Graphics aren't anything special. Its trying hard to be a MW clone

Chairman Meow

lol consoles

gizmo

PogMoThoin wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8UJve2Eidg

Looks shíte, very cramped small maps aimed at consoles, imagine 32+ players on those maps :eek:. Crysis Wars had big maps and vehicles.
Graphics aren't anything special. Its trying hard to be a MW clone

Are you ****ing high? Who said those maps shown in the trailer were the larger ones? In fact, who said the game would support 32 players? If the game is only designed for smaller maps given the suit abilities then I'd prefer if they stuck with that and didn't try and shoehorn massive maps into it. At least then I can stick to Battlefield if I want my big map fix.

Next, graphics wise. Are you being serious? It blows everything else out of the water in the context of its release date. Only Killzone 3 is looking as impressive at the moment. I'm sure the PC version will crank things up a notch though if you're that worried.

Finally the MW2 reference, not really sure where this came from outside of the sniper section?

Chairman Meow

gizmo wrote: »

Next, graphics wise. Are you being serious? It blows everything else out of the water in the context of its release date. Only Killzone 3 is looking as impressive at the moment. I'm sure the PC version will crank things up a notch though if you're that worried.

Finally the MW2 reference, not really sure where this came from outside of the sniper section?

Crysis 1 (released 2007) on my PC last night



Crysis 2 (released 2011) on console, today

PogMoThoin

Here's some screenshots from my pc from 2.5 yrs ago (dated July 2008),
*note* this isn't even Crysis maxed, I only had a 512MB 4870 at the time and couldn't enable antialiasing or put settings all on high.






They said the game wouldn't be dumbed down on console, but its obvious it has. The first Crysis MP supported upto 32 players as did Crysis wars (which was great IMO). MP doesn't interest Me now, not buying

Grumpypants

So what ye are saying is that you're 2 and a half year old PC is better than a five year old console. Wow

Anyway for anyone thats interested demo is on Xbox now.

Overheal

Im not thrilled about the MP either way. Like I said I tried the other night and it wasnt pleasant at all. at least Counterstrike still runs hundreds of active, honest servers. I'd reconsider if it was tied into Steam with VAC, I truly would.

However - keeping things honest - it's not fair to compare urban environment with no AA (and apparently HDR disabled?) to Crysis' Jungle Environment, rendered on PC with those options enabled. theres just way more going on in that scenescape.

marco_polo

What is the point in comparing Crysis to Crysis 2 screenshots when high resolution screenshot of the PC version of Crysis 2 are not even available yet?

Also BFBC2 allows more players per map on PC I doubt it is completely beyond the technical abilities of the creators of a multi-platform gaming engine to do likewise.

Overheal

Chairman Meow wrote: »

Crysis 1 (released 2007) on my PC last night

exactly where was this capture taken? I cant seem to replicate that fog on my own machine. which graphics card are you using? Are you using custom configs?

gizmo

Chairman Meow wrote: »

Crysis 1 (released 2007) on my PC last night

No offence but that looks remarkably like one of the promo pictures released before the game came out.

Chairman Meow wrote: »

Crysis 2 (released 2011) on console, today

Indeed, on console. You were expecting the two to be the same?

PogMoThoin wrote: »

They said the game wouldn't be dumbed down on console, but its obvious it has. The first Crysis MP supported upto 32 players as did Crysis wars (which was great IMO). MP doesn't interest Me now, not buying

So you're equating "dumbed down" with a smaller number of players on the map? So does that mean Counter Strike is dumbed down compared to Battlefield?

As for the lunacy of judging the multiplayer from a brief promo video, have you even played the demo yet or do you intend playing it when it's released for the PC eventually?

Overheal

Im with Gizmo. Obviously the console will have to be scaled down somewhere. The obvious lack of Anti-Aliasing, for instance. Something found on just about every PC title for many many years now. And look at other Console Ports of PC titles, does the Orange Box on 360 indicate what you can scale the graphics up to on the PC? No, it does not.

Also how does one judge the size of the map from a couple screenshots? A narrow street, but for how many square miles? How many buildings are accessible? Comparing it to Arma also isn't really that fair, and no while I enjoy Cat and Mouse I don't particularly like the idea of trying to find your opponent on a 10 square mile board when both of you can flip on a cloak and hide behind a bush with a sniper rifle that can hit a target a mile away.

Especially when the other ****er uses aimbot.

Grumpypants

Had a go of the demo and even though its much smoother (as in it actually works) than when i played it last summer it is unsurprisingly still not a great game.

Overheal

definitely not seeing fog. unless you've enabled something special in the console, thats a fake/promo image, imo. Or if Nvidia did one of those ghey things like pay off the developer to only enable certain features with their own cards.

Here are some screenshots I captured earlier, 1680x1050 8xAA Maximum Settings with AMD HD5770

http://s407.photobucket.com/albums/pp157/overheal1987/Crysis/?albumview=slideshow

PogMoThoin

gizmo wrote: »

So you're equating "dumbed down" with a smaller number of players on the map? So does that mean Counter Strike is dumbed down compared to Battlefield?

You can't compare Counterstrike and Battlefield, they're completely different types of game. This however, was touted is a console version of a game that has been released on pc, but is now completely watered down. Gone are the spectacular graphics that are still used as a graphics showcase today, gone are the vehicles, gone are the big maps, gone are the big 32 player games. All of these amount to a dumbed down game made to suit what a console is capable of, there's nothing of the old game there, this is a console game with little similarities to the others.

gizmo wrote: »

As for the lunacy of judging the multiplayer from a brief promo video, have you even played the demo yet or do you intend playing it when it's released for the PC eventually?

Eh, demo? I'd try it if I could but only the Xbox gets the luxury of a demo, shows exactly what market they're aiming for

Grumpypants

PogMoThoin wrote: »

You can't compare Counterstrike and Battlefield, they're completely different types of game. This however, was touted is a console version of a game that has been released on pc, but is now completely watered down. Gone are the spectacular graphics that are still used as a graphics showcase today, gone are the vehicles, gone are the big maps, gone are the big 32 player games. All of these amount to a dumbed down game made to suit what a console is capable of, there's nothing of the old game there, this is a console game with little similarities to the others.

Eh, demo? I'd try it if I could but only the Xbox gets the luxury of a demo, shows exactly what market they're aiming for

MAG is on a PS3 and has 256 players on a map 1 kilometre square, has vehicles and works flawlessly.

So to suggest a console cant do huge player numbers or large maps is just wrong.

cherryghost

Just played it. It's rubbish.

It's Call of Duty in Crysis clothes. The game isn't finished, its more of a beta than a demo, the killcams are borked, by the time the shotgun is unlocked, everyone is running around with shotguns because it's hilariously overpowered (it was overpowered in the original Crysis too IMO, but the massive maps compensated for it).

The map I played is small, standard COD size. Even the killstreaks are identical to COD. Hitboxes are rubbish (I quite liked the COD hitboxes on consoles, despite the slight autoaim). There's no aim assists in Crysis 2 from what I could see, but the hit detection is rubbish.

Graphically the game is fairly average. Was playing on a full HD screen and some of the wall textures were blurry at best. Theres some nice details on foliage, but nothing that would make me gasp with wonder. Defintely not the Crysis/Crysis Warhead standard that we have seen. Sound is fairly solid though, as its redeeming feature.

I'm going to pass unless the PC version is completely different from the console versions. In short, the Crysis 2 demo is a dumbed down poor clone of the Call of Duty franchise. Just have to wait and see what they churn out for the rest of the multiplayer and the single player experience.

gizmo

PogMoThoin wrote: »

You can't compare Counterstrike and Battlefield, they're completely different types of game. This however, was touted is a console version of a game that has been released on pc, but is now completely watered down. Gone are the spectacular graphics that are still used as a graphics showcase today, gone are the vehicles, gone are the big maps, gone are the big 32 player games. All of these amount to a dumbed down game made to suit what a console is capable of, there's nothing of the old game there, this is a console game with little similarities to the others.

This was not touted as a console version of a three year old PC game, it is an entirely new game and as such should not be criticised if it features a different kind of multiplayer game. I'll also reiterate that you really can't tell what kind of MP game it's going to be from that video.

Gone are the spectacular graphics? They're extremely impressive for a console release. The PC graphics will be better. I thought this would be quite obvious?

No vehicles shown in one video does not equate to them being removed entirely.

As I said earlier, if they've chosen a different route for the multiplayer then it makes sense to change the number of players and the size of the map. If you want large player counts and large maps then just play a different game, this seems to be going in a different direction and I'd much prefer to not see the MP mode becoming a jack of all trades, master of none. Different does not necessarily mean bad.

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Eh, demo? I'd try it if I could but only the Xbox gets the luxury of a demo, shows exactly what market they're aiming for

I did say "when it's released for the PC" which it will be in due time. Given the nature of the download i.e. Gold sub only, I'd wager that MS paid for an exclusive, whether timed or otherwise.

PogMoThoin

Since there's no pc demo I'll take Cherrys word on it, I was right

Overheal

console demo for Multiplayer? hitboxing complaints and shotgun balance?


Crysis was only ever a single player game. I take the Zero Punctuation approach. I wont Not be buying it over a portion of the game ill probably only enjoy for a few hours.

If I want "different" Multiplayer, I load up Shattered Horizons during the free weekend. Now that game is Boss.

More importanly any word on this damn screenshot?? I want fog too, if I can actually ****ing get it.

cherryghost

Overheal wrote: »

c
Crysis was only ever a single player game. I take the Zero Punctuation approach. I wont Not be buying it over a portion of the game ill probably only enjoy for a few hours.

Well in my personal experience, Crysis Wars was excellent and I played that game for months. The single player experience lasted me a week and I stretched that too (it was also excellent)