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Lissadell bus fiasco

  • 30-07-2010 9:52am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭


    So 10 phone calls later and all I've been told is that the shuttle buses had to be booked in advance and they are now booked out for tonight's gig. [thanks for the pre-advanced warning]

    I know that there are a number of people assuming that they can just jump on these shuttle buses from town but that appears not to be the case. So once again Sligo can't do anything right and now there is quiet a number of people left wondering how the hell we're suppose to make it to Lissadell tonight.

    A park and ride service would have been useful..but nothing on that.

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭corryworry


    There is another shuttle bus service which I don't think is book in advance but i'm not 100%. It's at the drop of point in Carney village (no parking available there thou). - as far as i know it's €5 return.
    I was looking into buses myself but now it turns out that there is 'ample' free parking within 10 min walk from the concert so I'm going ahead with this instead!
    As you were looking for a park and ride I'd say your best bet is to head out to Lissadell and avail of the free parking!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭*shadow*


    corryworry wrote: »
    There is another shuttle bus service which I don't think is book in advance but i'm not 100%. It's at the drop of point in Carney village (no parking available there thou). - as far as i know it's €5 return.
    I was looking into buses myself but now it turns out that there is 'ample' free parking within 10 min walk from the concert so I'm going ahead with this instead!
    As you were looking for a park and ride I'd say your best bet is to head out to Lissadell and avail of the free parking!!

    We're relying on being dropped off and our lift isn't allowed near the venue or to Carney as far as I know. It would have been less hastle going up to Dublin to see them. Sligo aren't really doing themselves any favours as usual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,185 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    *shadow* wrote: »
    Sligo aren't really doing themselves any favours as usual.
    Well.. what did you expect to happen?

    You were informed:
    *shadow* wrote: »
    So 10 phone calls later and all I've been told is that the shuttle buses had to be booked in advance and they are now booked out for tonight's gig. [thanks for the pre-advanced warning]

    This type of thing should have really been investigated at least a week or two back. How'd ya think they got booked out? People phoned to investigate, and I'm sure they were advertised.

    Absolutely no offence to yourself.. but it's no-one's fault but your own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭bennyc


    In fairness this info was out there all week, you booked a bus and the time you booked for was the only bus you can take. Your best bet if not driving is to get a Taxi to OX Field and there is another bus service from there for a couple of euro. There will be a Taxi pick up from the same point in OX Field so I imagine the same small bus service to the Taxi pick up will be in place.

    In my opinion they are so far doing a great job, they advised as much as possible to book a bus then for those like myself who had accepted traffic jams and a long wait after to get home , they are now saying ample parking so hopefully it wont be too bad.

    Either way I have a picnic basket in the boot of the car in case we are sitting for 2 hours with the kids on the way home tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,185 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Surely a bit late now..

    .. but heard mention of a park and ride service on the radio this evening.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭magnumlady


    I've been reading that the shuttle buses were a joke. Poor people still waiting at 1am to get a bus out of there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    basquille wrote: »
    Well.. what did you expect to happen?

    You were informed:



    This type of thing should have really been investigated at least a week or two back. How'd ya think they got booked out? People phoned to investigate, and I'm sure they were advertised.

    Absolutely no offence to yourself.. but it's no-one's fault but your own.

    As far as I'm aware they were advertised on the radio,and posters were dropped into work here where the public would see them,that mentioned that it must be booked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭EverEvolving


    magnumlady wrote: »
    I've been reading that the shuttle buses were a joke. Poor people still waiting at 1am to get a bus out of there.
    ==

    Yes, I got home at 2:15am after having to walk to the road from the venue. There was no organisation whatsoever, buses that had gotten in couldn't get out and people had no idea what was happening. It was ridiculous to say the least. Also, the place was very badly lit so people couldnt see where they were going.

    Now, I expect there to be some transport delays after a concert of that magnitude but this was a joke, I got to Dublin from Slane quicker than I got back to Sligo from Lisadell :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    I heard the security were awful. Knackers telling women with hysterical children to **** off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭Betsy18


    i paid for a bus from Bundoran to Lissadell return last nite. we were told by our bus driver that we were to meet him at 11pm in the car park. now the concert didnt finish to 10.50pm but we left early just to be on time for the bus! we ended up being trapped in a crowd when the stewards closed the gates to get out to the carpark and only let a few people out at a time!we were standing a the crowd with about 100/150 people in front of us watching our bus pull out of the carpark with only half a load on!!people started jumping over walls and barriers and running thru fields to try and run after buses!!it was mayhem! after about 1 hour being kept outta the carpark we were let in to find that all buses were full and no buses for donegal at all!! nobody knew what was happening the stewards were rude and obnoxious and would not tell us anything! we were physically pushed and roared at by them. the one decent steward among them told us that he had worked at all concerts oxygen,picnic etc and this was the worst organised he had ever seen in 14 years in the job!!

    we were moved from top to bottom of the carpark, children were crying, women were crying and collapsing. after lots of arguing we were eventually pushed outta the carpark and made walk the 2/3 miles in the pitch dark relying on the lights of mobile phones to guide our path until we made it to the crossroads where a fleet on buses were only to discover 1 bus for donegal which was overloaded and all the other buses for sligo!

    we were left stranded at the side of the road with stewards trying to persuade bus drivers with empty buses to take us home. they would do it but wanted a fee of €15 pp after us paying for our tickets already! we refused this and were thrown off the bus! in the end up at 2.40am a gentleman of a bus eireann driver agreed to take us home free of charge.

    i am now making a formal complaint to Discover Sligo, and the organiser of the concert and looking for a full refund for the distress that this caused. i watched a pregnant woman collapse and possibly suffering from a miscarraige being lifted into an ambulance and rushed to hospital due to the distress that was caused to her and the walk in the dark which we were forced to undertake!

    we really enjoyed the westlife concert but this disaster ruined all our nite. 20 people made it to their homes at 3am this morning. we would have been home sooner from Dublin! Discover Sligo i don't think i want to see it for a long time!!:mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭Truley


    Jesus Betsy that sound absolutely horrific! I've heard similar stories from my own friends this morning, one friend told me she's even considering skipping the Leonard Coen concert despite having tickets. Purely due to the hassle she went through last night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    :eek:

    shocking :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭corryworry


    Oh My God, Betsy that sounds horrific. I think it's awful that the free parking was only announced earlier this week - after they had given the impression that there was to be no parking whatsoever. I was just lucky that I hadn't decided on which bus to get and seen in the Sligo Weekender on Tuesday that there was parking.
    I have to say, it went pretty smoothly for us. We parked in the Red Car Park (muddy field) which was not overcrowded at all, much fewer cars than I would have expected.
    We had about a 10 min walk which was lit up on the way back. Once we got back into the car it did take about 20 mins to get out of the field (no stewards directing traffic at all) but after that we didn't get stuck in traffic at all, lot's of guards around the roads and plenty of flashing blue nights.
    It seems that the shuttle buses organised by Discover Sligo were the biggest disaster. Hope you get your money back at least Betsy :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭Betsy18


    it was a complete disaster guys! i tried for over half an hour today to get through to Discover Sligo, eventually got speaking to a girl who i actually felt sorry for as she said the phones had been hopping all morning with people making complaints. she said the issue is now with management and they would take my details and a manager would contact me on Monday when the weekend has died down!! she apologised for what happened even though it wasnt her fault but she did admit that the stewards were taking in for this event only and had only been briefed on the parking arrangements 2 hours before the event!!!!:eek:


    i'll wait now to see how things go on Monday but they havent heard the end of it yet!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭ge_ch


    as far as i know the organiser is the same that organises electric picnic.
    you would expect them to be better prepared with all their experience.
    i work nearby and know lots of people living in the area. they were saying that the traffic system that would have been in order wasnt followed by the stuarts.
    regarding the buses its the hired companies that are to hold responsible. in their defence i have to say though that they were stormed by all the people trying to get on and thats why they had to be moved out to the road
    i have a few friends that were at the concert and had no problems at all, but also heard that some people were still left stranded at 4am


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭*shadow*


    Thought that this thread should be started to gauge a true idea of how badly organised the event was with regards the buses.

    We waited 2 hours in the bus pick up area with thousands of other people. There was complete chaos and no one was controlling the situation. Security were laughing and shrugging their shoulders saying it wasn't there fault and they gave us no direction as to what we should do. The only person that tried to maintain some form of crowd control was a tall guy in a suit who kept trying to reassure people they'd get a bus.

    There were no Gardai around for almost an hour and they didn't turn up until we started ringing them to report the situation. When they did turn up they did nothing.

    After 2 hours of waiting a few hundred of us set off walking down the small narrow unlit road [about a mile and a half - 2 mile walk] to the crossroads where over 50 buses were lined up. This road was pitch dark and we couldn't even see the ground, a cop car sped past us at one point rather than helping to ensure our safety by perhaps driving in front to light up the way or by dispersing cops throughout the crowd with torches.

    Along the way we met a guy who was working at the event who said he was in complete shock at the organisation and that he was going to refuse to work at the event on the Saturday and Sunday. He also said that it was clear the road couldn't cope with such a vast volume of buses and that the event should never have been allowed without this issue being addressed.

    We eventually made it to the cross roads were we managed to find a a very very helpful Fury's bus and the driver explained that he had been in the first group that should have drove into the bus pick up area but that the organisers had made him reverse back to allow the hotel buses in first. We waited on the bus to try and fill it and after half an hour thousands of people were walking past. The people that got on our bus said that the stewards had eventually stopped discouraging people from walking and just told them their only way of getting home would be to head off walking to the crossroads.

    I have a quote from Ocean fm earlier that day where a woman strongly discouraged people from walking on these roads as they were too dangerous she also said that it was a terribly long walk to do and that you'd have to be in training to do it. Why then were thousands of people including young children, the elderly, pregnant women and the disabled forced to do so? And why did the Gardai completely fail us by not attempting to take control of the situation?

    This was the worse run concert I have ever attended, even after the event finished there was no announcement about safety precautions and which exits to use like there has been at every other event I've ever attended. There were even unlit areas at this point as we made our way to the bus pick up area..how hard would it have been to have put a few generator powered lights along the path way leading out to the bus area?

    I'm completely disgusted and dismayed over what has happened. It spoilt what should have been a family friendly night and what was a great gig. Sligo had a chance to prove itself and it failed miserably.

    I'm definitely making a formal complaint about this and this story is going national. I'm just completely stunned by it all.

    The purpose of this thread is not to start an argument. For those driving to and from the event I've been told the traffic management was excellent however for those of us availing of the bus services it was a different story and this event cannot be downplayed.

    We didn't get home till after 3am and we live in Sligo. I've gotten home from Gigs in Dublin and Galway earlier than that.

    I'm also curious is there anyone out there who attended the Leonard Cohen concerts and was there the same chaos at the bus pick up area for them?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭*shadow*


    basquille wrote: »
    Well.. what did you expect to happen?

    You were informed:



    This type of thing should have really been investigated at least a week or two back. How'd ya think they got booked out? People phoned to investigate, and I'm sure they were advertised.

    Absolutely no offence to yourself.. but it's no-one's fault but your own.

    Yeah I was really foolish to think that when we were told there would be a shuttle bus service that would mean paying on arrival like it does everywhere else in the country. Instead Sligo's idea of a shuttle bus was a prepaid coach.

    Clearly I was not the only one to take this for granted. I met numerous other people who believed that they could just grab a shuttle bus from town to the venue and there were many girls in floods of tears when they found out this wasn't the case and they were turned away from buses.

    Luckily Furrey's, Feehilys and dail a bus were operating a service for those of us with the more universal view to what defines a shuttle bus.

    This however as we now know was just the start of what turned into a completely chaotic night for those of us availing of buses.


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,830 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Just back in Westport from Leonard Cohen. We left during the closing number (I thought he had finished with the previous one), walked along well-lit paths with helpful stewards constantly pointing out the way. Got to where the coach had dropped us earlier, where lots of coaches were waiting - we had to wait maybe two minutes while a couple of them maneouvred (during which time I bought a hot chocolate), then we were bundled onto a waiting coach, which took off within five minutes and dropped us straight back into Sligo.

    My experience couldn't be much different from yours.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭*shadow*


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    Just back in Westport from Leonard Cohen. We left during the closing number (I thought he had finished with the previous one), walked along well-lit paths with helpful stewards constantly pointing out the way. Got to where the coach had dropped us earlier, where lots of coaches were waiting - we had to wait maybe two minutes while a couple of them maneouvred (during which time I bought a hot chocolate), then we were bundled onto a waiting coach, which took off within five minutes and dropped us straight back into Sligo.

    My experience couldn't be much different from yours.

    Wow well that's actually good to hear though..it means they learned from Friday night's mistake and it also proves that if the organisation was put into it on Friday then the whole chaotic situation could have been averted?

    However I wonder did people that left after the closing number get coaches too??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭magnumlady


    Friday night sounded dreadful. I would let the local media know because from what I gather they think things went very smoothly.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭*shadow*


    magnumlady wrote: »
    Friday night sounded dreadful. I would let the local media know because from what I gather they think things went very smoothly.

    Yeah we certainly are. We're letting the national media know. Sligo will only want to cover this up. I still can't get my head around how this was let happen :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 teddybear73


    *shadow* wrote: »
    Yeah we certainly are. We're letting the national media know. Sligo will only want to cover this up. I still can't get my head around how this was let happen :(

    Its typical of people nowadays to just go off and moan to Joe Duffy if everything isnt up to a level of standard that may be impossible to achieve. Anyone going to concerts regularly will know there are teething problems at venues especially ones that are new and un tested never mind 5 miles off the main drag. It is the way we Irish are becoming a nation of moaners and begrudgers that does my head in.

    btw on the way to the Leonard Cohen concert yesterday Ocean FM did mention there had been problems with the busses at Westlife and that they had all night meetings to rectify the problems and it did seem to move better last night but everyone expects to leave a concert and that there will be enough busses to handle 10,000 people all leaving at once.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 teddybear73


    I cant understand the mentality of people who think you can just arrange hundreds of buses at a moments notice and just turn up on the day and think everything will run smoothly. They then moan when everything goes pearshapped due to people wanting buses on the way home that were not planned for. I would hazard a guess that if eceryone had to avail of prebooking giving organisers an idea how many wanted bus travel then there wouldnt have been the probs afterwards.
    Its not like in Dublin where you have option of hiring double deckers that take 150 people at a time like at Oxegen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭*shadow*


    Its typical of people nowadays to just go off and moan to Joe Duffy if everything isnt up to a level of standard that may be impossible to achieve. Anyone going to concerts regularly will know there are teething problems at venues especially ones that are new and un tested never mind 5 miles off the main drag. It is the way we Irish are becoming a nation of moaners and begrudgers that does my head in.

    btw on the way to the Leonard Cohen concert yesterday Ocean FM did mention there had been problems with the busses at Westlife and that they had all night meetings to rectify the problems and it did seem to move better last night but everyone expects to leave a concert and that there will be enough busses to handle 10,000 people all leaving at once.


    I'm happy they rectified the problem but that doesn't excuse Friday night and I would hardly call making young children and elderly people walk miles in the dark a teething problem and I've certainly never in my whole life been to a concert that lacked this amount of organisation afterwards. Irish people moan too much and do nothing about it so lets actually do something about it this time.

    There should have been a plan in place to deal with the situation or failing that the Gardaí should have acted on the night to ensure our safety, at the very least escorting us down the dark road would have been a nice start, or maybe turning up to control the crowd before we all had to start ringing them and begging them to come down.

    Fine they may not have foreseen that this situation would arise but that does not excuse the way they reacted on the night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭EverEvolving


    I cant understand the mentality of people who think you can just arrange hundreds of buses at a moments notice and just turn up on the day and think everything will run smoothly. They then moan when everything goes pearshapped due to people wanting buses on the way home that were not planned for. I would hazard a guess that if eceryone had to avail of prebooking giving organisers an idea how many wanted bus travel then there wouldnt have been the probs afterwards.
    Its not like in Dublin where you have option of hiring double deckers that take 150 people at a time like at Oxegen.

    Discover Sligo had all pre bookings and they still couldn't manage the volume they already knew about - it was seriously badly run, nobody was there to give information as to where and when we were to get the buses, there wasn't even a queue, it was just thousands of people not having a clue what was going on. Only saving grace is that it didn't get rowdy at any stage or there would have been total chaos. I felt so sorry for the volunteers as they hadn't a notion either and were getting the lugs chewed a them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭EverEvolving


    I wouldn't have minded the wait - in fact I expected it, if there was some sort of organisation or if anybody knew what was happening. It was total lack of planning, how could they not know this was going to happen? They would have known from the amount of cars that were parked the volume of drivers, even estimating 5 in each car, the discover sligo buses had pre booked numbers, bus eireann had figures also as they were only taking people with tickets. These are the first things that should be thought of. Also the lighting was very poor and people couldn't see where they were going.

    I'm glad they resolved it for the Cohen gigs as it would be a terrible impression of Sligo to leave on even more people.

    Sorry about second message - thought I was in a different thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭bennyc


    I really do hope they sorted it for last night, I was in Slane for Oasis last year where thousands were left stranded and also crushed on the way in. I was lucky there again and didnt notice any of the hassle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭*shadow*


    Does anyone know who exactly the event organisers were? Was it MCD or POD?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,185 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    I knew last night would go smoother..

    .. I've been saying ever since the concert was announced that I felt sorry for anyone going to Westlife as that would be the night of teething problems.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭TequilaMockingBird


    It was more than teething problems Basquille. I was babysitting for friends, they got back to Sligo town at 2am ONLY because a bus driver heading for Donegal saw their 10 year old getting crushed in the crowd and let them on.

    It sounds like it was a nightmare.

    My daughter was meant to go, I'm so glad now she didn't.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭tuppence


    *shadow* wrote: »
    Does anyone know who exactly the event organisers were? Was it MCD or POD?

    The organisers were POD. We left messages for them on a separate enquiry about bringing our baby to Leonard Cohen and found them unfortunately very unhelpful and didnt return messages left. :( It was impossible to get to know what there actual policy was.
    Re Discovery Sligo I had rang earlier in the week as was thinking about them as an option. The girl was unable to let me know whether the buses (as they were contracted in) had safety belts or not on them. :eek:
    We decided to drive. We left before the crowd to avoid any crush. We hadnt any problems tbtg but friends of ours folllowed us on afterwards. It took them an hour to get out of the car park cos it was a free for all......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 138 ✭✭iamthe43


    Moan moan f***ing moan.

    This is such a funny thread...Westlife fans complaining about the lack of organisation:) I dont even know where to begin with this.

    The stewards were rude and obnoxious...Of course they were. You were at a concert. To had expected otherwise was just naive. And if someone was rude and obnoxious to you, would you be polite? No you woudnt. You would be rude and obnoxious

    The Gardai were unhelpful...Of cousre they were. Getting you home before you and your children got too tired and cranky is not a priority. Getting people who were "possibly suffering from a miscarraige due to the distress that was caused" is a priority

    The busses coudnt leave the carparks...Of course they coudnt. You were at a concert with 10,000 other people, all of whom, at the time were less important than you.

    Go local, go national, go global. Nobody will care. Why? Because nobody wants to listen to a few disgruntled Westlife fans who had to 'god forbid' walk a few miles in the dark to find their busses.

    I stood in line for 4 hours waiting for a bus to bring me from Punchestown to Goffs after the ACDC gig last summer. I didnt complain. Why? Because i was at a f***ing concert. These things happen

    I cant get over how far some of you people are prepared to take this...

    End rant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 teddybear73


    iamthe43 wrote: »
    Moan moan f***ing moan.

    This is such a funny thread...Westlife fans complaining about the lack of organisation:) I dont even know where to begin with this.

    The stewards were rude and obnoxious...Of course they were. You were at a concert. To had expected otherwise was just naive. And if someone was rude and obnoxious to you, would you be polite? No you woudnt. You would be rude and obnoxious

    The Gardai were unhelpful...Of cousre they were. Getting you home before you and your children got too tired and cranky is not a priority. Getting people who were "possibly suffering from a miscarraige due to the distress that was caused" is a priority

    The busses coudnt leave the carparks...Of course they coudnt. You were at a concert with 10,000 other people, all of whom, at the time were less important than you.

    Go local, go national, go global. Nobody will care. Why? Because nobody wants to listen to a few disgruntled Westlife fans who had to 'god forbid' walk a few miles in the dark to find their busses.

    I stood in line for 4 hours waiting for a bus to bring me from Punchestown to Goffs after the ACDC gig last summer. I didnt complain. Why? Because i was at a f***ing concert. These things happen

    I cant get over how far some of you people are prepared to take this...

    End rant

    Thank god for some piece of sanity. People go to concerts and expect it to be similar to going to the cinema and be home in ten minutes. To be honest some people are whinging about getting home at 2.30am. This at is still only 3 hours after the concert ended. It could have been worse. I think the major problem was that the amount of people who it to the last minutes to book buses. Whatever next they will be compalining that the site was mucky or else the toliets were not the standard of a 4 star hotel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 teddybear73


    tuppence wrote: »
    The organisers were POD. We left messages for them on a separate enquiry about bringing our baby to Leonard Cohen and found them unfortunately very unhelpful and didnt return messages left. :( It was impossible to get to know what there actual policy was.
    Re Discovery Sligo I had rang earlier in the week as was thinking about them as an option. The girl was unable to let me know whether the buses (as they were contracted in) had safety belts or not on them. :eek:
    We decided to drive. We left before the crowd to avoid any crush. We hadnt any problems tbtg but friends of ours folllowed us on afterwards. It took them an hour to get out of the car park cos it was a free for all......

    To be honest anyone that even thinks about bringing a baby to a concert like last nites enough said. Its one thing at Electric Picnic where they openly promote family campsites and kids getting in for free. This doesnt work at an all seater gig.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭*shadow*


    iamthe43 wrote: »
    Moan moan f***ing moan.

    This is such a funny thread...Westlife fans complaining about the lack of organisation:) I dont even know where to begin with this.

    The stewards were rude and obnoxious...Of course they were. You were at a concert. To had expected otherwise was just naive. And if someone was rude and obnoxious to you, would you be polite? No you woudnt. You would be rude and obnoxious

    The Gardai were unhelpful...Of cousre they were. Getting you home before you and your children got too tired and cranky is not a priority. Getting people who were "possibly suffering from a miscarraige due to the distress that was caused" is a priority

    The busses coudnt leave the carparks...Of course they coudnt. You were at a concert with 10,000 other people, all of whom, at the time were less important than you.

    Go local, go national, go global. Nobody will care. Why? Because nobody wants to listen to a few disgruntled Westlife fans who had to 'god forbid' walk a few miles in the dark to find their busses.

    I stood in line for 4 hours waiting for a bus to bring me from Punchestown to Goffs after the ACDC gig last summer. I didnt complain. Why? Because i was at a f***ing concert. These things happen

    I cant get over how far some of you people are prepared to take this...

    End rant

    We're you at the concert? NO..therefore go and rant else where.

    How many ACDC fans bring 4 year old to a gig? It's a completely different target market. The Westlife Lissadell gig was suppose to be family friendly.

    Also were thousands of you forced to walk miles in the pitch dark to find your bus? I think not.

    And had the Gardai been present in the first place at Lissadell then the whole issue of women being taken off in ambulances from collapsing would have been diverted. It was the chaos that followed the gig and being forced to walk miles in the dark that resulted in people collapsing.

    I spoke to a guy who goes round helping at gigs around the country and he said he'd never seen anything like this in his life.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 teddybear73


    *shadow* wrote: »
    We're you at the concert? NO..therefore go and rant else where.

    How many ACDC fans bring 4 year old to a gig? It's a completely different target market. The Westlife Lissadell gig was suppose to be family friendly.


    Again may I add if you brought a four year old to such a gig in the open air such late at night with inclement weather I would have an issue with this. Such a youngster should only be brought to the O2 or TF in Castlebar as you can never be sure about open air gigs in the middle of the countryside. Was at U2 at Slane and it took 4 hours to get a bus back to Dublin. Would it not have made more sense to bring your 4 year old by car and even if you got caught in traffic at least the young un would have been warm and dry away from the elements and crowding.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭*shadow*


    Thank god for some piece of sanity. People go to concerts and expect it to be similar to going to the cinema and be home in ten minutes. To be honest some people are whinging about getting home at 2.30am. This at is still only 3 hours after the concert ended. It could have been worse. I think the major problem was that the amount of people who it to the last minutes to book buses. Whatever next they will be compalining that the site was mucky or else the toliets were not the standard of a 4 star hotel

    Tell me why ever other county can run shuttle buses from gigs but not Sligo. As someone has already mentioned earlier even Discovery Ireland which was prepay, couldn't manage their customers so that is not the reason for the chaos.

    And actually the site was amazing, the toilets were to a good standard, the food was lovely, the surroundings were lovely in fact everyone had a really great time till we attempted to get a bus home.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 Radar42


    I don't know where all this talk about the bus problem being resolved for Leonard Cohen has come from. The previous poster that got away quickly was an exception. I was at the concert last night. The actual concert was excellent, as was the setting, facilities and most of the staff. The bus arrangement afterwards was a total nightmare. The organizers had learned nothing from the previous night. We had parked in Bundoran, taking a pre-paid coach to Lissadell. The bus driver warned us about the previous night but said that, hopefully, the problems would be ironed out this time. When we arrived, he said that he had a bad feeling that things would be the same. He was right. The concert ended at 11.45 and we made our way along poorly-lit paths to a huge queue at the coach park. There were many stewards and Gardai bawling out conflicting instructions and destinations but there didn't appear to be anyone co-ordinating the procedure. When a destination was called out, only the people at the front of the queue could hear. I actually heard a steward mutter to himself 'Whats the f***ing point, nobody can make their way up through the queue anyway!'.

    We were were two hours in the queue before being called to come forward. When we did, the bus was already (somehow) full and drove away. Finally, an available bus was reallocated to Bundoran (via Mullaghmore). I was home in Donegal at three. As others have experienced, I have made it home from O2 in Dublin and Odyssey in Belfast earlier than that. An absolute shambles.

    I know others have made the comment that we must expect something like that when you have 10,000 people at a concert in the sticks. I don't accept this in this case. With a bit of intelligent forward planning, much better use could have been made of the space and road network available. It had the hallmarks of something that had been 'planned' the day before by a Craggy Island committee. I hope the folks at today's concert fare out a bit better but I wouldn't bet on it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭ge_ch


    *shadow* wrote: »
    Does anyone know who exactly the event organisers were? Was it MCD or POD?

    POD


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    wasn't at the concerts but can sympatise and relate to whats been happening. was at mulaghmore a few years ago when the village hosted the final stage of rally ireland, that night as well took us 3 to 4 hours to get back to sligo town. that did not include the walk back to the meeting point. it was 3 to 4 hours from arriving to the meeting point, waiting on the advertised bus eirrean service, and the journey back to sligo. no stewards to assist, and some of the guards actully left before the buses arrived to collect people.

    i too have left concerts in around dublin, walked back to the city centre and got back to donegal/letterkenny/sligo quicker as well.

    the main problem with lissadell and mulaghmore is that there is only one road in and one road out, and that road is not designed to hold or cater for that amount of traffic, nor for a fleet of busses to go in or out. unfortunatly regardless of the amount of busses promised, weather they were going to park and rides, sligo, or donegal, they were going to have to meet on narrow and winding country roads, whilst going in to pick up and leave again after filling up and then deal with traffic on the main road back to sligo and donegal.

    going home last night my self from sligo to donegal took me over 90 minutes instead of the usual 45, mainly due to buses and private cars trying to get into lissadell. would have imagined it would have been a lot worse afterwards due to everyone leaving around the same time compared to arriving throughout the afternoon over the course of a few hours proir to the event.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭whatswhat


    A great concert totally ruined by inadequate transport organisation.Totally agree with "Shadow" comments.I was trapped between hundreds of people,was told to move back by a steward so a bus could do a 55 point turn,fell into a chained fence and have a five inch bruise on my leg to prove it! Live in Sligo and got home at 2:25,Joke!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭Betsy18


    *shadow* wrote: »
    Thought that this thread should be started to gauge a true idea of how badly organised the event was with regards the buses.

    We waited 2 hours in the bus pick up area with thousands of other people. There was complete chaos and no one was controlling the situation. Security were laughing and shrugging their shoulders saying it wasn't there fault and they gave us no direction as to what we should do. The only person that tried to maintain some form of crowd control was a tall guy in a suit who kept trying to reassure people they'd get a bus.

    There were no Gardai around for almost an hour and they didn't turn up until we started ringing them to report the situation. When they did turn up they did nothing.

    After 2 hours of waiting a few hundred of us set off walking down the small narrow unlit road [about a mile and a half - 2 mile walk] to the crossroads where over 50 buses were lined up. This road was pitch dark and we couldn't even see the ground, a cop car sped past us at one point rather than helping to ensure our safety by perhaps driving in front to light up the way or by dispersing cops throughout the crowd with torches.

    Along the way we met a guy who was working at the event who said he was in complete shock at the organisation and that he was going to refuse to work at the event on the Saturday and Sunday. He also said that it was clear the road couldn't cope with such a vast volume of buses and that the event should never have been allowed without this issue being addressed.

    We eventually made it to the cross roads were we managed to find a a very very helpful Fury's bus and the driver explained that he had been in the first group that should have drove into the bus pick up area but that the organisers had made him reverse back to allow the hotel buses in first. We waited on the bus to try and fill it and after half an hour thousands of people were walking past. The people that got on our bus said that the stewards had eventually stopped discouraging people from walking and just told them their only way of getting home would be to head off walking to the crossroads.

    I have a quote from Ocean fm earlier that day where a woman strongly discouraged people from walking on these roads as they were too dangerous she also said that it was a terribly long walk to do and that you'd have to be in training to do it. Why then were thousands of people including young children, the elderly, pregnant women and the disabled forced to do so? And why did the Gardai completely fail us by not attempting to take control of the situation?

    This was the worse run concert I have ever attended, even after the event finished there was no announcement about safety precautions and which exits to use like there has been at every other event I've ever attended. There were even unlit areas at this point as we made our way to the bus pick up area..how hard would it have been to have put a few generator powered lights along the path way leading out to the bus area?

    I'm completely disgusted and dismayed over what has happened. It spoilt what should have been a family friendly night and what was a great gig. Sligo had a chance to prove itself and it failed miserably.

    I'm definitely making a formal complaint about this and this story is going national. I'm just completely stunned by it all.

    The purpose of this thread is not to start an argument. For those driving to and from the event I've been told the traffic management was excellent however for those of us availing of the bus services it was a different story and this event cannot be downplayed.

    We didn't get home till after 3am and we live in Sligo. I've gotten home from Gigs in Dublin and Galway earlier than that.

    I'm also curious is there anyone out there who attended the Leonard Cohen concerts and was there the same chaos at the bus pick up area for them?


    I'm with you on that Shadow!! it was an absolute disgrace and i am definately not letting them away with it!i am shocked that after the recent tragedies in Germany that concert promoters would have acknowledged the safety issues which arose at this event and would have plans of action in place to deal with these issues instead of the adhoc procedure that was in place on Friday nite!:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭Betsy18


    magnumlady wrote: »
    Friday night sounded dreadful. I would let the local media know because from what I gather they think things went very smoothly.


    Yes i also have heard that Ocean FM has been praising the organisation of the concert. fair enough the concert itself was excellent and the venue was amazing but the fiasco afterwards completely ruined our nite and left us with bad memories of our nite at Lissadell! i think Ocean FM needs to hear our side of the story on the nites events!!:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭Betsy18


    IAMTHE43 HOW DARE YOU! Where you actually there that nite??????? did you experience the chaos that arose????where you trapped in a crowd of 2000/3000 people not being let out as the stewards decided to close the gates and let the people miss their buses???? did YOU witness children in distress and people collapsing left, right and centre???? NO!YOU did not! so go rant somewhere else because YOU cannot comment on the chaos that arose after this event! YES WE will go to the media as we paid money for PREBOOKED travel to this event and did not receive the transport we have PREPAID for. Also the safety issues that arose was an absolute disgrace and would have been better organised by a 5 year old child!

    unfortunately people like you don't think of issues like this, so go rant at some other thread because it seems that you urself like the odd 'MOAN'!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭bobcar61


    Ok Guys, if you have problems with posts then please report them, don't reply with a response which could get into a typing war.

    I wasn't at any of the concerts so I'm not going to say anything but it's obvious that some people got home without any problems and others had major problems, like you can expect problems at concerts and there is always going to be traffic when a huge amount of people are leaving one venue and most of them are heading in the one direction.

    For the moment I'm going to lock this thread, just to let things cool down. And as I said already, we can already see the problems that arose from the previous posts and we can react as we want to them.

    I don't think anything more is going to come from this thread for the moment so **LOCK** it is.


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