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You Control Ireland, What Would You Do?

  • 28-07-2010 6:08pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 355 ✭✭I_AmThe_Walrus


    Okay, so you've amassed a large number of supporters, secured the confidence of the Gardai Commissioner and hopped into bed with the Commanding Military General (figuratively speaking, of course) to undermine the current FF Government and overthrow it...

    The Dail is suspended and the people need a leader...

    What do you do? Let's create our utopian paradise, boardies...

    1) Complete re-structure of the Educational System, using Finland's as a model. Religion has no part of the curriculum as Science is given full attention and Gaeilge is completely voluntary, not compulsory (with no bearing towards future opportunities). Attendance record will be an integral part of your overall grade and the Leaving Certificate is obsolete, leaving monthly assignments contributing to the majority of your overall score.

    More focus from Secondary on current University subjects such as basic introductions into Medicine, Law and Journalism preparing students for those careers by later pursuing an optional University education following Secondary graduation.

    All educational academies have mixed genders starting in Pre-School which is an important part of our development, equality and social skills.

    During University, a student has his/herself supported, financially, by Government if they sign a contract stating that they will work in Ireland for a specific amount of time after graduating. Invest in your country and your country will invest in you.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    Round up and execute all the trolls


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Demand more Jellybabies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    Bomb the Ivory Coast and India as well, there can only be one tri colour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    Kasabian wrote: »
    Round up and execute all the trolls

    Down with the Jews i say. Down with those sort of things :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 TouchMe


    Deport all fat chicks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    change the education system.

    irish would still be compulsory but all of it would be concentrated on the oral aspect of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    Biggins wrote: »
    Demand more Jellybabies.

    Would you like a minstrel , I have gone off them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,378 ✭✭✭mojesius


    Biggins wrote: »
    Demand more Jellybabies.

    I'll vote for that. You seem to like jellybabies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,378 ✭✭✭mojesius


    Kasabian wrote: »
    Would you like a minstrel , I have gone off them

    Or perhaps a teacake?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    mojesius wrote: »
    I'll vote for that. You seem to like jellybabies.
    They're my secret fetish. You should see the wife in the costume. :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    hand us back to the brits and say sorry for the mess


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Kasabian wrote: »
    Would you like a minstrel, I have gone off them
    Only if I can bite! I'm a biter, not a sucker. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭seanaor


    Kasabian wrote: »
    Round up and execute all the trolls

    Starting with Brian Cowen? (Big troll head on him)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,779 ✭✭✭up for anything


    [QUOTE=I_AmThe_Walrus;67166263
    During University, a student has his/herself supported, financially, by Government if they sign a contract stating that they will work in Ireland for a specific amount of time after graduating. Invest in your country and your country will invest in you.
    [/B][/QUOTE]

    During the current difficulties which you haven't mentioned, will spending two years on the dole count towards your specific working in Ireland time?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 355 ✭✭I_AmThe_Walrus


    2) Dissolve the military.

    We're neutral so no need for an army as such will give extra funding for the new Educational system. Current personnel will be integrated into the Gardai with other area's of qualifications being placed in their particular careers outside the military.

    No guns, no weapons, no tanks, no planes, no aggression - Just Peace and Love. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭karlog


    Send all scumbags to Madagascar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,230 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I nominate Kasabian as Minister for confectionary and diabetes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Funny this is the second time this one has come up this evening
    if they sign a contract stating that they will work in Ireland for a specific amount of time after graduating. Invest in your country and your country will invest in you.[/B]

    How would you enforce such a contract ?

    Are you planning to provide some work for unemployed bricklayers ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    2) Dissolve the military.

    We're neutral so no need for an army as such will give extra funding for the new Educational system. Current personnel will be integrated into the Gardai with other area's of qualifications being placed in their particular careers outside the military.

    No guns, no weapons, no tanks, no planes, no aggression - Just Peace and Love. :)

    While i like your ideas,where would they work then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,939 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    Complete re-structure of the Educational System, using Finland's as a model. Religion has no part of the curriculum as Science is given full attention and Gaeilge is completely voluntary, not compulsory (with no bearing towards future opportunities). Attendance record will be an integral part of your overall grade and the Leaving Certificate is obsolete, leaving monthly assignments contributing to the majority of your overall score.

    do we have to learn finnish? is fearr liom an Gaeilge.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,007 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Public hangings for corrupt politicans, bankers, developers, and their likes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 355 ✭✭I_AmThe_Walrus


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Funny this is the second time this one has come up this evening



    How would you enforce such a contract ?

    Are you planning to provide some work for unemployed bricklayers ?

    Well, what would your suggestions be, Mike? Remember, this is a two way street...find a solution. :)

    If we put bricklayers to one side for a moment and concentrate on medicine for example...a graduated student must remain in Ireland for an amount of time to work in the Health Sector in this country. I was in the Mater a few months ago and I didn't see one Irish member of staff there, except the receptionist, of course. :confused::rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    I nominate Kasabian as Minister for confectionary and diabetes.

    Thank you

    Can you get diabetes from Minstrels?

    Can I be the Minstrel of Confectionary and Diabetes?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Attendance record will be an integral part of your overall grade

    So that sick students would be doubly disadvantaged ?
    and the Leaving Certificate is obsolete, leaving monthly assignments contributing to the majority of your overall score.

    Yep the British experience with GCSE coursework has been completly free of any downside ?!?!?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭CokaColumbo


    Knock down the Spire and in its place erect a 400 ft dildo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Sell it to the Yanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭Lando Griffin


    Buy Shamrock Rovers and make them a powerhouse of Europeian football.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 355 ✭✭I_AmThe_Walrus


    caseyann wrote: »
    While i like your ideas,where would they work then?

    That can be your job. ;)
    do we have to learn finnish? is fearr liom an Gaeilge.

    Only if you want to. :o
    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Public hangings for corrupt politicans, bankers, developers, and their likes.

    Absolutely. A full investigation bureau set up to investigate tribunals and the whole bank fiasco with lengthy jail times for guilty parties.
    Kasabian wrote: »
    Thank you

    Can you get diabetes from Minstrels?

    Can I be the Minstrel of Confectionary and Diabetes?

    Only if we can pay you in Candy... :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    Only if we can pay you in Candy... :p

    Throw in petrol money and insulin and it's a deal


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 355 ✭✭I_AmThe_Walrus


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    So that sick students would be doubly disadvantaged ?

    Yep the British experience with GCSE coursework has been completly free of any downside ?!?!?!

    Students with genuine illnesses will be accommodated for. Have you a solution to better a well oiled machine? Tell us. :)
    Knock down the Spire and in its place erect a 400 ft dildo.

    We're not going "all Dutch" just yet, but you can be in charge of public decoration if you like. :cool:
    Buy Shamrock Rovers and make them a powerhouse of Europeian football.

    Yes, big investments into our sports teams and stadia with a group set-up to negotiate TV time for all clubs.

    Perhaps, and it'll be interesting in hearing your opinions: What about turning the GAA professional at Inter-County level? Re-structuring of the competitions etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    1. A complete overhaul of the planning system & a complete rethink of zoning policies.

    2. Major investment into public health & education systems.

    3. Introduce third level fees for those who can afford them & scrap their grants.

    4. A complete overhaul of the Social Welfare system as it is outdated & unfair.

    5. Get rid of unvouched expenses for all politicians, reduce their expenses severely and reduce their wages to match the average industrial wage.

    6. Overhaul the Public Sector - get rid of the deadweight, introduce performance related wages, abolish "jobs for life" & employ all staff on contract basis which would be subject to bi-annual reviews.

    7. Scrap the plans for Metro North.

    8. Major investment into the roads network in the West of Ireland.

    9. Take the running of all schools out of the hands of the Church & put them into the care of the State. Also make all schools non-demoninational, with the option of extra curriculum teaching of all religions for those who want it.

    10. Have a referendum on the Irish language to decide on whether to keep Irish as an official language. This would decide if we could scrap the grant system to Gealtacht areas & make Irish an optional language subject in schools.

    11. Employ a team of the best economists to try & figure a way of making Ireland a more competitive country. (I know my own limits!)

    12. Introduce a tax on unhealthy foods & use it to subsidise healthy foods.

    14. Increase spending on community facilities for sports.

    15. Introduce a scheme to help people in severe debt.

    That'd be what I would do in the first week. :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Dunno why people on this seem to think that pointing out a flaw in someones proposal (even where one doesnt have an issue with the overall intent behind such a proposal) confers on one an obligation to come up with something better.
    Students with genuine illnesses will be accommodated for. Have you a solution to better a well oiled machine? Tell us. :)

    Have the LC exam twice a year so people would have the option of sitting/repeating it in December or June
    Have a referendum on the Irish language to decide on whether to keep Irish as an official language. This would decide if we could scrap the grant system to Gealtacht areas & make Irish an optional language subject in schools.

    Not disagreeing with the measures you propose here but the assertion that the current constitutional status of Irish requires these things is not correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭del88


    As the suprem leader i'd ....

    1. Annouce a week of gladitorial games at croke parc (or as it's now know......might dell parc) other public spectacles will be held there, such as mock sea battles, pikie hunting, finna fail executions , re-enactments of the suprem leaders famous drinking sessions, and dramas based on classic episodes of family guy..
    2. Take miriam o'callaghan as my wife.
    3. Built a peace wall around cork (all the way around...no gates)
    4. Reduce the amount of days in the week to 6...i fécking hate tuesdays
    5. Encourage more swedish exchange students .
    6. Ban rugby.
    7. Build a statue of the suprem leader to replace the dail.
    8. Move dublin airport to aviod accidents invoving the suprem leaders collection of rare falcons.
    Thats all for now......
    All hail del88 :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 244 ✭✭RachPie


    One hell of a lot to think about, but basic facilities like health, education, etc. would get top priority in my book.
    First thing I'd do is radically overhaul the HSE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    First thing i'd do is get rid of those useless quangos.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,823 ✭✭✭EvilMonkey


    2) Dissolve the military.

    We're neutral so no need for an army as such will give extra funding for the new Educational system. Current personnel will be integrated into the Gardai with other area's of qualifications being placed in their particular careers outside the military.

    No guns, no weapons, no tanks, no planes, no aggression - Just Peace and Love. :)

    Eh, you needed the army to execute your coup and presumably would need it to protect your dictatorship.

    Probably best not to tell the Commanding Military General about step 2.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    EvilMonkey wrote: »
    Eh, you needed the army to execute your coup and presumably would need it to protect your dictatorship.


    Is there any country in the world which doesnt have an army ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,603 ✭✭✭Mal-Adjusted


    amalgamate Cork county with one of it's neighbors, a county heretofore known as "Giant Waterford"

    Divide Tipperary up a few times to appease all the 32-county people


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 355 ✭✭I_AmThe_Walrus


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Not disagreeing with the measures you propose here but the assertion that the current constitutional status of Irish required these things is not correct.

    I'd say that the current constitution would have been pissed on by now. I guess, we're starting from scratch so buckle yourself in...it's going to be some ride (literally).
    A complete overhaul of the planning system & a complete rethink of zoning policies.

    Introduce a tax on unhealthy foods & use it to subsidise healthy foods.

    Very interesting.

    The planning and zoning policies are a main concern. I particularly was intrigued by your food suggestions. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 355 ✭✭I_AmThe_Walrus


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Is there any country in the world which doesnt have an army ?

    Costa Rica.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,659 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    Ok here goes...Remember its my first day on the job so go easy on me!!

    My programme for governement would include as main priorities...

    1) Moron tax for anyone who uses phrases like "mandate to govern", "going forward" or "these recessionary times"

    2) Homophobic tax - €2000 for any guy who touches off another guy accidentally in a nightclub. Also €1000 tax for the "touched" guy for not getting out of the way

    3) Trouser tax for girls - €100 for a full length trousers. This halves to €50 for a skirt. The shorter the skirt, the bigger discounts available. Tax works other way around for girls who get less than 6 marks out of ten

    4) Further to the previous step - A ratings system for girls out of ten approved by government. FYI If your reading this, check between your legs. If you dont spot a rod there, your probably a 7. The tax take from the previous 3 steps will fund the ratings system, perhaps even introduce quality control

    5) Noel Dempsey Dartboards for every pub in the country to regenerate visits to the pub. Anyone who gets his eye gets a "get out of jail" ticket to the pub.

    6) Introduce "Get out of jail free" tickets for smokers who are allowed one night of smoking inside for this ticket. Incentives like #5 above to earn said tickets

    7) Replace Sharon Ni Bhaolean with Claire Tully. Sharons not had that same sparkle in her eye as she stares at me all flirtingly since she had the kids.

    8) Introduce entrance music for myself - well start with this baby

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-64CaD8GXw

    9) Make it illegal for the public to not have at least one soliloquouy per day to reflect on the happenings and inner thoughts in their mind a la this...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw9UJPgGoDw

    10) Introduce top 9 lists to replace top 10 lists for slackers like myself who cant think of a 10th policy


    :Dhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcbStTC8tAQ :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,228 ✭✭✭epgc3fyqirnbsx


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Is there any country in the world which doesnt have an army ?

    As far as I know Switzerland doesn't have an army which is why all of its citizens must own weapons and and go to a firing range at least once a year because under the Geneva convention all countrys must be able to defend themselves


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 355 ✭✭I_AmThe_Walrus


    Next, the Healthcare System needs to be turned on it's head, using the French model. WHO has placed France as the best Health system in the world. Free universal healthcare with latest technology and equipment to diagnose and treat illnesses of every distinction. Foreign nationals flying in for treatment will pay though.

    Healthcare will be funded by tax on liberal's recreations. :D;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭gu10


    Mandatory gun ownership for all

    A fully automatic shotgun for every house and a handgun for everyone over 16 which they must carry on them at all times


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 355 ✭✭I_AmThe_Walrus


    gu10 wrote: »
    Mandatory gun ownership for all

    A fully automatic shotgun for every house and a handgun for everyone over 16 which they must carry on them at all times

    Do you think this is necessary? :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭gu10


    Do you think this is necessary? :eek:

    No but crime should drop rapidly once the initial horde of scumbags kills each other off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,076 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    If we put bricklayers to one side for a moment and concentrate on medicine for example...a graduated student must remain in Ireland for an amount of time to work in the Health Sector in this country. I was in the Mater a few months ago and I didn't see one Irish member of staff there, except the receptionist, of course.
    Well, I can't say the same about St. Vincent's - the only non-Irish person I saw, on a recent trip through several OP departments, was a medical student from Malaysia who sat in on one examination. Pretty good, I thought she was.

    Me? I'd stop paying students to study Orts, Media, Sociology, or any other "soft" subjects that don't contribute to the Irish economy. You want to write yet another history of the Potato Famine or an analysis of Joyce's Ulysses, you can pay for it - we don't need any more, thanks. :p

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Introduce another 43 public holidays.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭Tefral


    -Keep the current tax rates, add the levies into the tax system.
    -Take 1% tax from those on minimum Wage.
    -Lower social welfare to €150 a week, stop child payments when kids reach 7 years old.
    - Immediately wind up Anglo Irish bank.
    - Put a cap on all doctors fees at €40.
    - Ensure that 99% of the population has access to at least 7mb broadband (fibre or cable)
    - Privatise the ESB (but retain state ownership of the Transmission lines for security), CIE and Irish Rail.
    - All drivers need to resit their drivers test every 10 years.
    - Increase all motorway speed limits to 140km bar the M50.
    - Massive investment in the third class road network in Ireland, the country roads are the biggest killers, this also includes cutting back hedges etc etc.
    - Health care, im stumped at this, but it should revolve around everyone having health insurance.
    - Scale back Military spending, but increase Naval spending, buy a few more ships - drugs and spanish trawlers need closer inspection.
    - All garda stations in the country to be inspected and raised to a minimum standard.
    - Greater powers to be given to Gardai in the area of gang related activities.
    - Anyone caught with a gun thats not reg'd to get a minimum 5 years in jail.
    - Serious investment in second level and third level education. Colleges to be almalgamated if need.
    - Abolish the senate, reduce the number of TD's and put a cap of €75,000 on their wages.

    Im sure theres more but im sick of writing and just getting thick about the government now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade



    The planning and zoning policies are a main concern. I particularly was intrigued by your food suggestions. :)

    Unhealthy eating & obesity is a major concern in almost all 1st World countries, and will ultimately be seen in the huge rise in type 2 diabetes over the coming decades.

    The proliferation of modified corn based products, the control of the food chain supply by multi-corporates & the practices they use from exploiting farmers to producing, essentally crap food products have all lead us to this point.

    This has had & will continue to have a huge detremental effect on both our health & on the environment unless something is done about it.

    Something is fundamentally wrong when a global corporation like McDonalds can produce a hamburger for less than the price of a head of broccoli. It affect us all, but even more so, people from the lower end of the socio-economic scale.

    In the States, it's estimated that one in three of all children born after the year 2000, will develop diabetes due to poor diet & two out of three children from poorer families will develop it.

    Some might say that this is just an American phenomenon, but it's a blind assumption.

    It's everyone's own personal responsibility to eat healthily, but it should be the government's responsibility to ensure that there is proper education & funding towards eating locally produced, fresh & good quality foods.

    At present the Irish government have Bord Bia - but it's a joke of an operation. The Bord Bia symbol can be put on food from anywhere in the world - basically any food that is manufactured or processed here - so as a sign of quality or "Irishness", it is a major fail.

    The supermarket giants are also pushing small, local farmers out of business by making them supply homogomised food at below cost production, which is not just bad for the farmers, but severely reduces customer choice.

    Increased taxes on unhealthy foods which could be put towards subsidising healthy ones would go some way to re-addressing the balance.


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