If you're fat, would you mind being told you're "fat" BY A MEDICAL EXPERT?

Biggins

Doctors and other health professionals should tell people that they are “fat” rather than use the word “obese”, a British* health minister said today.
Anne Milton said that the term fat was more likely to motivate people into losing weight, adding that it was important that people took “personal responsibility” for their lifestyles.
Insisting that she was speaking in a personal capacity, Ms Milton told the BBC: “If I look in the mirror and think I am obese, I think I am less worried [than] if I think I am fat.”

* Word "British" was inserted by myself to make it clear its an English source quote.

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- So (leaving aside the average on the street person) if you were at the doctors/hospital and you were really too large, would you feel insulted if that MEDICAL EXPERIENCED PERSON called you fat?
- Would that motivate you into trying to do something about your weight more so rather than they just saying your "obese?"

If I was fat, I would have to say, being called it by a trained person in the medical field would probably make a difference.

Source article that made me pose the question, wondering how others would feel themselves?
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caseyann

No if they called me fat would be the truth if i was fat,so therefore if i was fat would help by been told by someone in the medical profession as i would know they didnt say it for no reason.:p

we'llallhavetea_old

hmm dunno, its kinda like a doc diagnosing you with "the clap" instead of gonorrhea...
funnier though!

Biggins

caseyann wrote: »

No if they called me fat would be the truth if i was fat,so therefore if i was fat would help by been told by someone in the medical profession as i would know they didnt say it for no reason.:p

...Yea I know what you mean and agree, but there is always the person who will either feel genuinely insulted or get on their high-horse about it too.

Novella

If I was fat, I'm sure I'd know about it so no, a doctor saying it to me wouldn't come as some big shock. When I hear the word 'obese' I always think 'extra fat', so maybe I'd find just being fat a little less insulting!

caseyann

Biggins wrote: »

...Yea I know what you mean and agree, but there is always the person who will either feel genuinely insulted or get on their high-horse about it too.

Do you mean the ass doctor or patient?

If my fat what?! Don't leave me hanging! :eek:


But no, I wouldn't mind.

VinnyTGM

Wouldn't bother me at all.

El_Dangeroso

I love the way they think people need to be diagnosed with obesity by a doctor.

When I was fat, I figured out I was fat all by myself, now someone give me an honorary MD!

afatbollix

But obese is worse than being fat??

when you have over 30% body weight in fat is when you're obese..

If I was called fat I would then say thank god Im not obese..

Terri26

have to admit the fat comment would upset me more. obese makes it sound like a medical condition and therefore not my fault

caseyann

Terri26 wrote: »

have to admit the fat comment would upset me more. obese makes it sound like a medical condition and therefore not my fault

No if they say its glandular or medical reason,then its not your fault.If its because you eat and eat and do no exercise.Then people should take responsibility for their choices and except its their fault.

Kasabian

/ leaves down large bag of Minstrels.

Scuid Mhór

i wouldn't care. fat/obese pretty much means the same thing like every other politically correct term.

Biggins

Terri26 wrote: »

have to admit the fat comment would upset me more. obese makes it sound like a medical condition and therefore not my fault

Yea, that was the point of the medical experts and others in the article at the bottom of the first post.

mojesius

Kasabian wrote: »

/ leaves down large bag of Minstrels.

/follows suit and puts away tea cakes.

mikom

Prefer the term fatty-fatty bum-bum.

Biggins

mojesius wrote: »

/follows suit and puts away tea cakes.

I will eat one Jellybaby less tonight just thinking about it.

we'llallhavetea_old

Biggins wrote: »

Yea, that was the point of the medical experts and others in the article at the bottom of the first post.

that seems like a bad reason to do it tbh. why would you want to upset a fat patient? i think it would make them eat more..

law86

Anyone who is overweight has probably been at the receiving end of "fat" insults; it has become primarily an emotive and insulting word. It has no place in the relationship between doctor and patient,which should be a place of trust and confidence. That said unhealthy weight should definitely be flagged and addressed, but the words used should be scientific. Obese is the clinical term, I think it's far more alarming than fat anyway.

rossie1977

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZqo4OZ0Pqs

mardybumbum

I would be offended. I don't agree that it would motivate people more.
I would probably resent my doctor and be less likely to follow his/her advice.
Bad idea imo.

dilallio

How about Horizontally-Challenged?

Nah - Fatty-Fatty-Bum-Bum is better

Einhard

In his clinic, no.

Walking down the street, maybe.

Biggins

we'llallhavetea wrote: »

that seems like a bad reason to do it tbh. why would you want to upset a fat patient? i think it would make them eat more..

Make some of them eat more maybe? Yes, maybe so.
Some also over-eat for other reasons besides emotional distress as we know.

Mmcd

http://videosift.com/video/Family-Guy-Peter-Finds-Out-Hes-Fat

caseyann

mojesius wrote: »

/follows suit and puts away tea cakes.

Tea cakes are low in calories

Glico Man

I feel like I should post this again...seems appropriate

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v197/148/16/677340597/n677340597_789560_5956.jpg

Mars Bar

I'd find some random person asking me am I pregnant more effective than a medical expert telling me I'm fat to get off my arse and do something...

we'llallhavetea_old

Biggins wrote: »

Make some of them eat more maybe? Yes, maybe so.
Some also over-eat for other reasons besides emotional distress as we know.

yeah, but i still think it's a half-arsed idea. i think if you're in the frame of mind to lose weight then you're gonna do it whether your doc calls you fat or obese.

Biggins

we'llallhavetea wrote: »

yeah, but i still think it's a half-arsed idea. i think if you're in the frame of mind to lose weight then you're gonna do it whether your doc calls you fat or obese.

True, true...

mojesius

caseyann wrote: »

Tea cakes are low in calories

These jacobs elite bad boys are 105 per cake. And you can never eat just one.

Rented Mule

You need a medical degree to call someone fat ?

I'll do it for half the price.

caseyann

mars bar wrote: »

I'd find some random person asking me am I pregnant more effective than a medical expert telling me I'm fat to get off my arse and do something...

I really really hate, when i see someone i havent seen in ages and they have that kind of tummy.And i dont know whether to congratulate or shut up.And then whats worse when you dont congratulate and they say,dont worry i am not fat i am pregnant.I actually asked someone aww can i feel your belly how long you have to go.:o

RachPie

Obese and fat mean the same thing, but fat is more insulting to some people, even though it does mean the same thing...
If I was overweight, however, I would not take offence at a person in the medical profession telling me so, and advising me on how to best lose weight.

caseyann

mojesius wrote: »

These jacobs elite bad boys are 105 per cake. And you can never eat just one.

Go for the Tunnocks tea cakes,low in calories,and you never can have just one either

SugarHigh

we'llallhavetea wrote: »

that seems like a bad reason to do it tbh. why would you want to upset a fat patient? i think it would make them eat more..

That's why I hate fat people. They deal with being fat by eating more to make themselves feel better instead of losing the weight.

mojesius

caseyann wrote: »

Go for the Tunnocks tea cakes,low in calories,and you never can have just one either

ooh, I like them, these were 100% extra free though!:D

My name is URL

Well there's no point in sugar coating it...

...or is there?

we'llallhavetea_old

SugarHigh wrote: »

That's why I hate fat people. They deal with being fat by eating more to make themselves feel better instead of losing the weight.

see that's why i hate your posts.

jester77

I'd rather be called fat than obese, when I hear obese I picture the forklift and crane coming to help me get to Burger King

mojesius

jester77 wrote: »

I'd rather be called fat than obese, when I hear obese I picture the forklift and crane coming to help me get to Burger King

and washing yourself with a cloth on a stick?

CreepingDeath

mars bar wrote: »

I'd find some random person asking me am I pregnant more effective than a medical expert telling me I'm fat to get off my arse and do something...

Are they random people, or did you just forget their faces ?

caseyann

mojesius wrote: »

ooh, I like them, these were 100% extra free though!:D

Oh haha dangerous offer

genericguy

i believe that most fat people are simply wasters. it doesn't take much effort to lose weight, the genes that are supposedly at fault in the opinions of the fat can be beaten, and pussy-footing around fat people doesn't make them any skinnier. being fat is the single worst thing anyone can do for their health, and although i don't smoke myself, i get extremely pissed off when a fat person comments about a smoker.

"you know smoker, those smokes will kill ya." = socially acceptable

"you know fat person, those wedges will kill ya" = WAR

always with the fcuking potato wedges and mayonnaise.

and btw, they're not cuddly, curvacious, voluptuous or any such bollix, they are fat. and it doesn't matter, because nobody is attracted to fat people.

Mars Bar

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Are they random people, or did you just forget their faces ?

I said "I'd find...". It didn't actually happen to me, thankfully!

Deus Ex Machina

I don't really care, I am just happy somebody is saying that people need to take personal responsibility for their condition instead of the usual blame shifting metabolism tripe.

caseyann

Deus Ex Machina wrote: »

I don't really care, I am just happy somebody is saying that people need to take personal responsibility for their condition instead of the usual blame shifting metabolism tripe.

Help me help you,HELP ME HELP YOU,HELP ME HELP YOUUUUUU
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Sorry just popped in my head

YFlyer

I was told I was fat by one of my friends.

YFlyer

Rented Mule wrote: »

You need a medical degree to call someone fat ?

I'll do it for half the price.

Will you do for a second opinion?

Wazdakka

Would you be offended if the doctor called you Caucasian/Black? (delete non applicable)

A spade is a spade...
A square is a square..

And if you're fat you're fat..
So don't take offense and deal with it fatty!