Great Limerick Run 1/5/2011

mesnifth

2010 marathon course
Race website
Last years thread

Anyone decided if they are going for next years marathon in limerick or are they going for the half or 10k? Im from Shannon and found it real handy to have it on my doorstep. i saved on the usual expenses of travel and hotel. The most important thing is that it is on the sunday of the bank holiday weekend!!!!!! at last someone see's common sense, no more having to take a day off work for the recovery day on the tuesday.


I took part in the first run in may and found it a great experience besides the usual hiccups, timing, route, stewards. im sure next year will be better. hope they have water bottles next year instead of plastic cups.It was my 7th marathon lucky for me as I ran a 3.57 for the full which was a P.B. for me so onwards and downwards in time i hope.

ultraman1

mesnifth wrote: »

found it a great experience besides the usual hiccups, timing, route, steward

these hiccups are gettin more popular....

donothoponpop

There were a large number of negative issues from this year's event, which runners should be aware of. This is a very congested course, which shares road space with motorists (half-closed roads), and is very dangerous in places. I saw a number of incidents where runners were knocked against moving cars. Having the marathon meet the half-marathon starters half-way through greatly adds to this danger and congestion. If you are running the marathon, and reach the half way point after 2 hours, you will be fighting your way through thousands of slow half marathon runners/walkers, a large number of who will be wearing headphones and oblivious to the fact that faster runners will be coming up behind them.

The course also suffered numerous bottleneck junctions last year, where runners had to queue (mid-race) to walk through the bottleneck.

Inadequate stewarding meant some of the top runners went astray. The prizes given out to the winners were pathetic for the scale of the event (and non-existent for some categories).

I don't know who this marathon is geared towards, it's not for the top runners, it's not for the club runners, it's not for the fun runners. Unless the organizers are a lot more serious about addressing safety/congestion issues this year than they were last year, I'd avoid this race at all costs. It's not good when race organizers are aware of safety issues but choose to push on regardless anyway.

mesnifth

3 stars (average)

As i said there were a lot of hiccups. im sure these matters will be addressed well before the off next year. but the one thing i do hope is looked at is where we had to run on footpaths around the city and jump from road to path to road all over the place, were they not aware what effort it takes to run in a marathon? and your right being overtaken by the half and 10k runners is not fun, and the markers for them were non existant, they had to make do with the full marathond course markers and the 10k turned out to not be the full distance.

Mick Rice

2 stars (poor)

Just for the record...

Problems with issues such as Timing, Route and Stewards are absolutely not the 'usual hiccups'.

These issues are fundamental to a good race.

IMHO if you have a situation where one or more of these are seriously compromised, you have a poor event, pure and simple.

mesnifth

3 stars (average)

well hopefully they will be all addressed as soon as possible.

My2Cents

I ran the full marathon this year, also setting a PB, so it's a fast enough course, fairly flat. From what I gathered the bottleneck issues were mostly for the 10km rather than the full or half and the organisers have already said that the route will change to avoid this (i.e. the route will no longer cut across the footbridge over the abbey)
The atmosphere on the route and in town that night were great, I'd definitely recommend it to anyone and will probably go for it again.

Reaganomical

2 stars (poor)

Did the half this year - a LOT has to improve before next year before I would even think about signing up for it. Think the organisers bit off more than they could chew in trying to host 3 in 1 and it fell foul on a number of not insignificant fronts.

donothoponpop

My2Cents wrote: »

I ran the full marathon this year, also setting a PB, so it's a fast enough course, fairly flat. From what I gathered the bottleneck issues were mostly for the 10km rather than the full or half and the organisers have already said that the route will change to avoid this (i.e. the route will no longer cut across the footbridge over the abbey)
The atmosphere on the route and in town that night were great, I'd definitely recommend it to anyone and will probably go for it again.

There was major congestion issues along the back roads a few miles after the half marathon start- both half and full races joining together along half closed roads. Cars were also driving against the flow of runners. Roads were half closed off, with cones, which couldn't be seen in the congestion. Lots of runners falling over cones here. As a pacer, I was constantly shouting at runners to stay left, but the sheer amount of headphone wearers made this redundant- was pushed against a moving car by a headphone wearer who suddenly stepped wide.

By far, this was the most dangerous race I've been in. The lack of experience in the race directors in planning a sufficient route was quite obvious, and they seemed content to gamble with runners safety to see how things went. Squeezing thousands of runners onto roads which they would share with traffic, (having been made aware beforehand of the inherent dangers involved), strikes me as negligent, and a good reason to avoid this race.

My2Cents

donothoponpop wrote: »

There was major congestion issues along the back roads a few miles after the half marathon start- both half and full races joining together along half closed roads. Cars were also driving against the flow of runners. Roads were half closed off, with cones, which couldn't be seen in the congestion. Lots of runners falling over cones here. As a pacer, I was constantly shouting at runners to stay left, but the sheer amount of headphone wearers made this redundant- was pushed against a moving car by a headphone wearer who suddenly stepped wide.

By far, this was the most dangerous race I've been in. The lack of experience in the race directors in planning a sufficient route was quite obvious, and they seemed content to gamble with runners safety to see how things went. Squeezing thousands of runners onto roads which they would share with traffic, (having been made aware beforehand of the inherent dangers involved), strikes me as negligent, and a good reason to avoid this race.

That's fair enough, I was a bit further up the field and didn't experience these difficulties - hopefully with the best part of a year to plan the organisers can avoid this for 2011.

groovyg

Maybe people should have a look at the Great Limerick Run 2010 thread before entering 2011.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055748576&page=43
There were alot of disappointed people who were left very unhappy with how the event turned out. The problems were more than minor hiccups and people can say oh it was the first year these things are to be expected. That excuse is becoming way too common.

baza1976

Few things that bothered me were

1) seeing security people at thomond park on reg day wearing finishers shirts:eek: I trained hard to earn that shirt.
2) Quality of finishers top........ It trained hard for .........
3) The medals handed out at the end. There were 2 different types being handed out. You could have any type you wanted, any amoutn you wanted too......plus if you didn't run you could still have some medals!!! I trained hard.........
4) The free for all at the end of the race......... "help yer selves lads", which meant people finishing later on had nothing!!!!
5) taking down the finishing line before the time limit expired. I had watch my sister in Law step over the (un)infated finish line. Seemed like the people at the finsh were more interested in getting to the pub to watch Munster match.
6) water must come in bottles!!!!!


I didn't come across any congestion to be honest so i can't comment on that but I know the bridge in the potatoe market well and I can imagine the congestion there.

I thought the route was a nice route, bit of over lapping alright but I still think it was a good route.

In saying all that I think I will run the marathon in Limerick again next year. But i would think it will be a make or break year. If the same issues are there in 2011 it will be very hard to make a case for it in 2012

I

ger664

Belfast where toying with the idea of running their 30th Anniversary on the same day but I think they had too much opposition form local groups.

mesnifth

3 stars (average)

baza1976 wrote: »

Few things that bothered me were

1) seeing security people at thomond park on reg day wearing finishers shirts:eek: I trained hard to earn that shirt.
2) Quality of finishers top........ It trained hard for .........
3) The medals handed out at the end. There were 2 different types being handed out. You could have any type you wanted, any amoutn you wanted too......plus if you didn't run you could still have some medals!!! I trained hard.........
4) The free for all at the end of the race......... "help yer selves lads", which meant people finishing later on had nothing!!!!
5) taking down the finishing line before the time limit expired. I had watch my sister in Law step over the (un)infated finish line. Seemed like the people at the finsh were more interested in getting to the pub to watch Munster match.
6) water must come in bottles!!!!!


I didn't come across any congestion to be honest so i can't comment on that but I know the bridge in the potatoe market well and I can imagine the congestion there.

I thought the route was a nice route, bit of over lapping alright but I still think it was a good route.

In saying all that I think I will run the marathon in Limerick again next year. But i would think it will be a make or break year. If the same issues are there in 2011 it will be very hard to make a case for it in 2012

I

yep agree with everything you say. if its not improved for next year then i think it will die a death.

mesnifth

3 stars (average)

i mailed the people in charge of the great limerick run. and they replied.


Many thanks for your email.
We have been working hard on ensuring that next year’s event is bigger and better and most of all exceeds the highest expectations of all our competitors.
We have numerous meetings and discussions with a wide variety of both competitors and expert groups in order to grow the event to one of the biggest on the Irish racing calendar and already numerous changes have been confirmed for next year’s event.
For example:
The footbridge which showcased a wonderful side to Limerick has been removed.
There will be more stewards and changes made to the distribution of water.

We look forward to having you in next year's event and will contact you in the future.

well at least thats a start isnt it?

PIORUN

mesnifth wrote: »

i mailed the people in charge of the great limerick run. and they replied.


Many thanks for your email.
We have been working hard on ensuring that next year’s event is bigger and better and most of all exceeds the highest expectations of all our competitors.
We have numerous meetings and discussions with a wide variety of both competitors and expert groups in order to grow the event to one of the biggest on the Irish racing calendar and already numerous changes have been confirmed for next year’s event.
For example:
The footbridge which showcased a wonderful side to Limerick has been removed.
There will be more stewards and changes made to the distribution of water.

We look forward to having you in next year's event and will contact you in the future.

well at least thats a start isnt it?

Hard to believe as it still shows on the map for 2011!! That's unless they want people to swim across instead.
I done full last year PB of 3.30 and was overjoyed at the end but looking back my major issues would be , water has to be in bottles, traffic especially after Thomond part was a joke, cars were almost up on top of us, half and 10k passing us in the last mile of 2 was heartbreaking and conjestion at the finish line was a joke, they were very bad at moving people along.
i'll probably do it again this year but only as I am from Limerick and it's handy.

--amadeus--

There is a new course this year which (as far as I know) removes the footbridge and also does away with the segment by the river (which has now been judged too narrow to be safe for the volume of runners).

I have also been assured that water will be in bottles this year and that the half marathon will start 2.5 hours after the full to ease some of the congestion issues.

We are organising pace groups again this year so have a bit of an "in" with the organisers so if there is anything that you specifically would like to see adressed let me know and I'll pass it on.

baza1976

Wondering if anyone has seen this new route/map yet and where any prospective runner can look at it??? Site still shows last years route.

dizzymom

Ok I did the full there this year, I thought the pacers were amazing & there were lots of different pace zones!

The finish on O'Connell was epic

I didnt like the fact that the medals were generic! imagine someone doing a 10k and someone doing 42k and each getting same medal. I spent 6months training for that medal & you could run a 10k fairly handy if you werent bothered about time. I hope the organisers take this on board!

The course is definately a PB course, its flat in most parts!

I didnt like the way the half marathon was throw into the race at our 13mile mark - they were fresh and stampeded into some people, plus some were walkers and the course got extremely congested.

There should be 3 different starts, starting at the same time. I'm sorry but I dont want to cross the line the same time as a springy 6miler! I do hope the organisers take this on boards

Cups are a disaster, hope we get bottles this year!

baza1976

http://www.greatlimerickrun.com/fm.html

looks like they updated the route for the marathon. They have taken away some of the run along the river, which I thought was ok. They also got rid of the part that goes up the steps by by King Johns castle and the bridge in the potatoe market which created a bottle neck last year. Can't zoom in on the map which is draw back. Anyone know if there is somehting on mapmyrun which they had last year??

Brianderunner

3 stars (average)

baza1976 wrote: »

http://www.greatlimerickrun.com/fm.html

looks like they updated the route for the marathon. They have taken away some of the run along the river, which I thought was ok. They also got rid of the part that goes up the steps by by King Johns castle and the bridge in the potatoe market which created a bottle neck last year. Can't zoom in on the map which is draw back. Anyone know if there is somehting on mapmyrun which they had last year??

Interesting, they seem to be sending the route down the North Circular Road at Union Cross and down by the 2 triangles and onto O Callaghans Strand, why on earth are they doing that? Monster short cut potential there at Ardscoil Ris. The Ennis road run in to Sarsfield Bridge was one of the best parts of last years race so why are they changing it?

Cartman78

Brianderunner wrote: »

Interesting, they seem to be sending the route down the North Circular Road at Union Cross and down by the 2 triangles and onto O Callaghans Strand, why on earth are they doing that? Monster short cut potential there at Ardscoil Ris. The Ennis road run in to Sarsfield Bridge was one of the best parts of last years race so why are they changing it?

I would have to say that the Ennis Rd section was the worst part of the race for me. The Ennis Rd should have been completely closed to traffic....dodging (understandably) frustrated drivers after running 20+ miles was a disaster. Hopefully the North Circ Rd will be easier to steward/manage traffic.

dizzymom

hopefully there will be less congestion on NCR this time!
does anyone know if the roads will be closed?

PIORUN

dizzymom wrote: »

hopefully there will be less congestion on NCR this time!
does anyone know if the roads will be closed?

Even at SCR last year I was dodging traffic...!!:mad:

The canal part seems to be have been almost taken out completey, seems like only half a mile now, coming into it from Rhebogue, whereas last year it was from UL boat club ( about 2 miles ).

elvis jones

I was thinking of doing this (half) but all the negative points are making me think again

buck65

Same here. Also that old bugbear of pricing comes into it!! Running Mallow this weekend where a 10 mile race is €15.

bart simpson

elvis jones wrote: »

I was thinking of doing this (half) but all the negative points are making me think again

what other flat marathons are on in early may i wonder....thats the only reason i am still considering this one.....but the thought of dodging traffic in the final stages of a very important marathon for me would have me getting angry and losing focus....

seanynova

hi, im curious about the new route and the possibility of conjestion problems throughout and towards the end....

im thinking about running the half marathon, i did this last year and had a few issues with it, namely:
the mile markers were for the marathon, not for the half so war hard to jundge pace(i now have a garmin so shouldnt be an issue)
narrow running lanes - this is still a potential issue
steps!! - they say these are removed now with the new course.

the half marathon starts 2h 30mins after the full marathon, and i plan to run the race in around 80mins, so im thinking ill catch up with the 4h pace group aomewhere around mile 22/23? (have to do the maths on that one to make be more accurate), and will catch all other pace groups following the 4h, eg 4:15, 4:30 etc etc....

anyways, if someone knows the route, what are the likely pinch points along the second half of the course?
i remember the crouse from last year and some of it is similar, like miles 15-20(full) is narrow enough but little traffic so running outside the cones is possible when overtaking, but it gets quiet conjested towards mile 21 if i remember correctly. after that the course is new i believe, any info on this part?

also, i think running the race like this is a disaster, its unfair on both the marathon runners and half marathon runners, why cant they just start the half about a half an hour after the full, that way people running the half have a free run and the people doing the full are not obstructed by the half runners either.

failing being able to help with the course, any recommendations for a fast half marathon in april/may?

thanks for the help,
Seany

Sosa

Hey Seany...I did the wexford half last year and it was the toughest race i have ever done,but they scrapped the whole route and they claim to have the flattest half route in the country this year.
I think its on Sun 22nd May.


Pettitt's SuperValu Wexford Half Marathon & Relay 22nd May - Flatter/ Faster/ Cheaper than 2010
Early Bird is ?35 until Jan 15th then it goes to ?40. Included: Race number, Technical Training Top, Shower, Timing Chip, Finishers Medal, 4 x aid stations, DJ at the finish, Sandwiches Tea & Coffee in Whites Hotel or BBQ (tbc).
Accurately measured course.

Also to mention that we have our usual dedicated Walking section that starts earlier and a Relay facility where you get bussed to the changeover points and collected if you don't feel up to the full distance.
We have a new prize fund structure. Its 1-3 in Senior, Vets and Masters M+F
I am very excited about the new course. The highest elevation point is 75m which has a gradual span from 4km to 7.5km. Think of the 100m race. It only goes ¾ of the height of this if put the track up vertically. From 7.5km it is practically downhill all the way to km 21.1..... Anyway a picture tells a thousand words so we have an elevation map on the front page of the website. The course will go through Johnstown Castle which is a tourist icon for the County with stunning gardens (you might get caught in a Wedding photo as you pass through!!!)

2.

Hi Folks,

Happy new year...
Couple of things to let you know about the race since Christmas.

The main one is the Early bird offer: The ?35 early bird ends on the 15th Jan. Then it goes to ?40

By now I guess you are aware we have changed the course. Flatter faster Cheaper is the motto for 2011.
There are some things that have changed and this is the way its looking...
The race will be finishing at the Talbot hotel www.talbotwexford.ie and the start of the race has been brought nearer to the hotel to compliment this. Needs to be measured with a Jones Counter to give percise starting point
Works well for a few reasons
- Registration is moving to the Talbot hotel
- The tea and sandwiches are in the Talbot hotel
- No need to concern ourselves with crossing the train tracks before the Trains on return
- Its a neater finish to the Half Marathon for competitors (no cones to negotiate along the Quays)
(speaking of which we will be dicking the finish up a bit too)
- Better place for spectators to hang out (especially if the weather is bad)

I ran the new course recently (in a slow and unfit pace) and all i can say is that it has huge potential....

Enjoy your training

Regards

Eoin

Brianderunner

3 stars (average)

seanynova wrote: »

after that the course is new i believe, any info on this part?

Seany

Yep do nearly all my training in Limerick on the last 4/5 mls of the course. After crossing sarsfield bridge you turn right and head down Clancy Strand (mile 9 in the half) which slopes gently downwards then levels off, as you hit the treaty stone you getta take a sharpish left and go up a nasty little hill, i imagine this will be a chokepoint as the pace drops. This hill lasts about 150m, then your on the flat for 400m or so before a downhill coming up to hassetts cross (this is where thomond park is) All this section is on quite a wide road. Then there is a nasty hill up past thomond park lasting 300m or so, it was on the route last year. from here its the big downhill towards Ivans cross and sharp left onto the Ennis Road (same as last year) and up the hill and back down to Union Cross. This is where the route changes, theres a sharp right (right angle) then another 80m later onto the North Circular Road (NCR). The NCR is one of the quietest roads in Limerick city traffic wise. definite chokepoints here at the 2 bends. Then its the gentle slope down the NCR over 2/3 gentle speed bumps towards what is known locally as the triangle, rounded left here towards the other triangle and then back up a gentle slope towards town. You now have to cross through the Shelbourne Road, which is always busy. there is also a narrow section here outside the primary school, could be another chokepoint. From here its about 200m flat to O Callaghans Strand where its a gentle slope up to the bridge and sharp right onto the bridge and your home.

Hope that helps.

seanynova

Sosa wrote: »

Hey Seany...I did the wexford half last year and it was the toughest race i have ever done,but they scrapped the whole route and they claim to have the flattest half route in the country this year.
I think its on Sun 22nd May.

cheers Sosa, i will be in the middle of exams at that stage so dought ill get out to run a half, there is a decent 10k on the same day in youghal that i might be able to run but exams have priority!

Brianderunner wrote: »

Yep do nearly all my training in Limerick on the last 4/5 mls of the course. After crossing sarsfield bridge you turn right and head down Clancy Strand (mile 9 in the half) which slopes gently downwards then levels off, as you hit the treaty stone you getta take a sharpish left and go up a nasty little hill, i imagine this will be a chokepoint as the pace drops. This hill lasts about 150m, then your on the flat for 400m or so before a downhill coming up to hassetts cross (this is where thomond park is) All this section is on quite a wide road. Then there is a nasty hill up past thomond park lasting 300m or so, it was on the route last year. from here its the big downhill towards Ivans cross and sharp left onto the Ennis Road (same as last year) and up the hill and back down to Union Cross. This is where the route changes, theres a sharp right (right angle) then another 80m later onto the North Circular Road (NCR). The NCR is one of the quietest roads in Limerick city traffic wise. definite chokepoints here at the 2 bends. Then its the gentle slope down the NCR over 2/3 gentle speed bumps towards what is known locally as the triangle, rounded left here towards the other triangle and then back up a gentle slope towards town. You now have to cross through the Shelbourne Road, which is always busy. there is also a narrow section here outside the primary school, could be another chokepoint. From here its about 200m flat to O Callaghans Strand where its a gentle slope up to the bridge and sharp right onto the bridge and your home.

Hope that helps.

cheers, good description, it seams that the roads are ok around that section so depending on the cone-ing off of the roads....i remember some of the sections from last year too, but the half started sooner so there was less congestion to worry about, but as i say the large groups may get caught towards the end of the half and if so, hopefully on some of the wider roads as mentioned above....

Sosa

seanynova wrote: »

cheers Sosa, i will be in the middle of exams at that stage so dought ill get out to run a half, there is a decent 10k on the same day in youghal that i might be able to run but exams have priority!

Is that the Emer Casey 10k...i hear its very flat
I think the 21st there is a 5m in Portlaw...very flat,i have ran very well there the last 2 years

seanynova

Sosa wrote: »

Is that the Emer Casey 10k...i hear its very flat
I think the 21st there is a 5m in Portlaw...very flat,i have ran very well there the last 2 years

yup, its the emer casey 10k, the elevation profile seams very flat although i think there is a small drag towards the end? cant be that bad though....i think ive scrapped the idea of doing a half as earlier posted, i have since found a flat half marathon in Canada, i think 20m total elevation gain over the whole course....cant go wrong!

metamorphosis

4 stars (good)

Despite all its faults, I will look forward to doing it this year because it's local. Having to watch the finish last year while injured for months was heartbraking!

eoin ryan

Sosa wrote: »

Hey Seany...I did the wexford half last year and it was the toughest race i have ever done,but they scrapped the whole route and they claim to have the flattest half route in the country this year.
I think its on Sun 22nd May.

Thanks Sosa for the mention.
Just to clarify - we are not claiming to be the flattest half in the country. That title would go to the Clontarf Half Marathon in July (+2m elevation).

But Wexford could well be in the top 3 flattest. You can see the elevation on the front page of the website to get an idea

eliwallach

Sosa wrote: »

Is that the Emer Casey 10k...i hear its very flat

The Emer Casey 10K is better than flat - You start 200m above sea-level and then finish at sea-level. Serious PB potential (and a worthy cause).
My 10K PB from this race in 2009 is still intact and will remain so (I fear) unless I run this course again in May.

Nialloooo

so guys who doing this? Entered the full over the weekend think there is a good 15+ from the club heading down from wexford to make a weekend of it. Hoping for a new PB

Mac Cormaic

I'm planning to run the Great Limerick Run and do Belfast the following day. I must be mad but should be a good experience.

spaceylou

Not quite ready to join all the fit folk running the half and the full marathon but have more or less agreed to run the 6mile... just looking at it now we'll be starting on the last 6 miles four hours after the marathon starts so we'll be this large bunch of fresh legs joining the course as a bunch of pretty tired people run the last 6 of a 26 mile race - seems unfair (to you guys not us) - did this cause a lot of congestion last year or was the field of marathoners spread out enough for it to be okay, given that judging by the comments its a fairly fast course?

central park

By any chance has anyone the discount code for entering this race, I seem to have deleted it, every penny counts! thanks

lucy_lou

central park wrote: »

By any chance has anyone the discount code for entering this race, I seem to have deleted it, every penny counts! thanks

Hi, am looking for the discount code too. I got sent an email with it, but the body of the seems to a hosted image file which has now been removed the web. I'm not in the habit of taking screen grabs of my emails as back up
Thanks!

CorkRunning

central park wrote: »

By any chance has anyone the discount code for entering this race, I seem to have deleted it, every penny counts! thanks

I'm not 100% sure but I think the cheaper entries closed at the end of January. This is from a mail that I received..."Great Limerick Run On-line Entry "Early Bird" Price Finishing 31st of January!!!"

central park

Saw that alright but I got a specific email last Friday with a code which I must have deleted,thanks for reply

runman

Im planning on doing the full this year, just wondering how many people out of the 10k paticapants will do the full? any idea?

opus

central park wrote: »

By any chance has anyone the discount code for entering this race, I seem to have deleted it, every penny counts! thanks

Got an email about it just there from Active Ireland, the 10% discount code is GLR10Active3 which is valid for the next 7 days it seems.

5h4mr0(k

opus wrote: »

Got an email about it just there from Active Ireland, the 10% discount code is GLR10Active3 which is valid for the next 7 days it seems.

Thanks for the code. But even with the discount, it's still over priced for a run that had very mixed/poor reports from it's first year. This is so close to me, yet I'm more tempted to go to Belfast for the weekend and do theirs (less than €40 for the full)

central park

Thanks for forwarding that!

opus

5h4mr0(k wrote: »

Thanks for the code. But even with the discount, it's still over priced for a run that had very mixed/poor reports from it's first year. This is so close to me, yet I'm more tempted to go to Belfast for the weekend and do theirs (less than €40 for the full)

I was half tempted to do it as would be a handy run prior to the Cork marathon but given the price & the feedback from last year think I'll give it a miss. Pretty sure I got both the Waterford half & the Clonmel half for less than the price of the Limerick & the Clonmel half even had some bonus extra mileage at the end

opus

Got another one of those discount codes today via email today - GLR10Active4

Nialloooo

I must say im not happy at the amount of these, I paid full price after the first one came out as i missed the cut of time and since i have entered at full price I have recived 2 discount emails, Surly they could take my email off the discount email list or just offer a early bird at the 10% , Sorry just feel a bit ripped off.. No problem paying full price just when you enter early and still have people getting in for less makes no since to me... on a lighter note training is going well and really looking forward to this one hotel booked and club members all signing up

dizzymom

I have to agree I entered before the new year and the discount codes came out afterwards, its just not fair to get penalised for entering early. Its not a good value for money race, but rarely marathons are! there's definately somebody making money out of these races