What to do about hit and run

alexmcred

Hi all.

Some one reversed into my car today a 10 x1 and drove off. Managed to get a partial plate and called guards who in fairness were as helpful as they could be.

Anyways after work took a trip around town and found the car that hit mine. Called guards and they bought her out said she was sorry etc.

She said she knew she hit me but didn't think she did any damage funny thing is she never got out of the car to check and see.

Long story short guards got her details and gave them to me question is how should I proceed from here?

Guards said to give her a week to see if she wants to sort it out for cash.

Am going to visit a BMW dealership in the morning and get a price on getting it fixed.

Random

personally i'd contact my insurance company and hers and get the ball rolling asap. my opinion is if the person is willing to hit your car and leave the scene you can't trust them not to mess about with private settlements.

CiniO

Excatly.
If you have her insurance details, just claim for the damage from her insurance.
I hope you have some Garda report, that it was she who did it. (like a statement from garda that the traces on her car suits a damage on your car).

jaffa20

I'd also go through her insurance if she was willing to take the chance to avoid leaving a note. I once did the same to someone and left a note and always would. The guy called after a few days and only wanted a few hundred and that was it.

I was really worried he would want to claim through my insurance etc but was hoping he'd be sound and he was. She wasn't even worried about the damage though so i would have no qualms about making a claim.

Doesn't look like too much damage but it's up to you.

alexmcred

Garda met me at the car and matched up the damage I have the names of the two gardai that me me at the car and they said any probs give them a shout. The woman admitted liability and I have her on CCTV

The top bit could be buffed out the bit near the bottom is right into the plastic so needs to be sanded back to be put right.

ted1

not much damage at all. It'll probably wipe clean. Wouldn't class is as a hit and run

jaffa20

ted1 wrote: »

not much damage at all. It'll probably wipe clean. Wouldn't class is as a hit and run

She still hit his car and drove off. He's entitled to claim through her insurance. She can pay the amout to the insurance company anyway f she doesn't want to lose ncb.

alexmcred

ted1 wrote: »

not much damage at all. It'll probably wipe clean. Wouldn't class is as a hit and run

It does not wipe clean she hit the car and drove away hence hit and run

CiniO

ted1 wrote: »

not much damage at all. It'll probably wipe clean. Wouldn't class is as a hit and run

What would you class it as then?

In my opinion it's typical hit and run.

Maybe some people wouldn't mind that kind of scratch on their car, but others do. And if someone caused such a damage, should compensate for it.

If it was about my car, let's say if the lady had a good will, left a note or something, I might have forget about it.
But in case she just hit my car and run away, I would do everything, to make her life harder - which in this case is just claim it straight from her insurance without even talking to her.

fitzeyboy.

TBH I'd go straight to the bmw dealership and get a replacement panel or door and claim it from her insurance. She hit your car and didnt have the common courtesy to get out and check for damage and leave a note with her details. The damage is not your fault, so why put up with panels/doors full of fillers.

jock101

What a total scumbag, damaging your car and driving off. I'd screw her through her insurance, let them deal with her. Dont mess around with such morons with private cash deals.:mad:

Run_to_da_hills

Throw the book at her and get main dealer quotes.

She did a bunk and tried to get away with it.

Vertakill

Get whatever work is needed done to the absolute best standard money can buy when claiming off her insurance.

That way, next time she opens up her insurance renewal in the post, she'll understand the cost of her irresponsibility and cowardice.

DonJose

ted1 wrote: »

not much damage at all. It'll probably wipe clean. Wouldn't class is as a hit and run

Boards needs an "Unlike" button!!!

Sid_Justice

is there, what's the phrase, criminal or road traffic offence to 'hit and run'? even if i dare say it, a mickey mouse knock as is the case here.

jock101

Is it a new or fairly new car, even though if it is an old car that doesnt excuse her hit and run. When I see a tiny hairline scratch it pees me off, even when I do it myself or its an act of god. That looks like quite a belt it got, deep crease into the metal.

DonJose

Sid_Justice wrote: »

is there, what's the phrase, criminal or road traffic offence to 'hit and run'? even if i dare say it, a mickey mouse knock as is the case here.

Damage is damage, whatever way you look at it.

Sid_Justice

DonJose wrote: »

Damage is damage, whatever way you look at it.

could you answer the question horse instead of telling me damage, is, wait for it, damage.

jock101

Sid_Justice wrote: »

is there, what's the phrase, criminal or road traffic offence to 'hit and run'? even if i dare say it, a mickey mouse knock as is the case here.

I wonder would you be so Cavalier about it if it was your pride and joy!:rolleyes:
I bet she was driving a Chelsea tractor, to big for her to see out of!:rolleyes:

DonJose

Sid_Justice wrote: »

could you answer the question horse instead of telling me damage, is, wait for it, damage.

When you buy a brand new car and some cunnt reverses into, then you will know the answer!!!

Anan1

DonJose wrote: »

When you buy a brand new car and some cunnt reverses into, then you will know the answer!!!

Easy with the language, thanks.

MagicSean

Sid_Justice wrote: »

is there, what's the phrase, criminal or road traffic offence to 'hit and run'? even if i dare say it, a mickey mouse knock as is the case here.

Section 106 of the Road Traffic Acts. It's four seperate offences actually. Failing to stop, failing to remain at scene, failing to give appropriate info and failing to report it o the gardaí.

I would disagree with the previous posters. Get a good quote and give her the opportunity to pay it. While it may sound good to get her a nice insurance hike or get her prosecuted, once you go through official channels like that your vehicle is recorded as having been involved in a crash. This would have to be declared when you are selling it, no matter how minor the crash was. I prefer to have a clean record on my car.

keithclancy

k_mac wrote: »

Section 106 of the Road Traffic Acts. It's four seperate offences actually. Failing to stop, failing to remain at scene, failing to give appropriate info and failing to report it o the gardaí.

I would disagree with the previous posters. Get a good quote and give her the opportunity to pay it. While it may sound good to get her a nice insurance hike or get her prosecuted, once you go through official channels like that your vehicle is recorded as having been involved in a crash. This would have to be declared when you are selling it, no matter how minor the crash was. I prefer to have a clean record on my car.

Wrong,

Its a civil matter, section 106 states:

Where injury is caused to person or property in a public place and a vehicle is involved in the occurrence of the jury (whether the use of the vehicle was or was not the cause of the injury), the following provisions shall have effect:

Hence why the gardai did nothing.

Criminal Damage wouldn't apply either as the damage was not intentional.

limklad

Random wrote: »

personally i'd contact my insurance company and hers and get the ball rolling asap. my opinion is if the person is willing to hit your car and leave the scene you can't trust them not to mess about with private settlements.

I fully agree with this statement.
OP: Always contact your insurance company about these types of incidents, if she or anybody else is reckless like that they should be reported to Insurance companies along with the Gardai (always report accidents to the gardai for official record). It is those hit and run reckless drivers are responsible for our higher insurance premiums and will always try to get away with it leaving your and other victims with the mess for pay for it.

alexmcred

Thanks to all for the advice I'm waiting on written quotes for the damage at the moment

MagicSean

keithclancy wrote: »

Wrong,

Its a civil matter, section 106 states:


Hence why the gardai did nothing.

Criminal Damage wouldn't apply either as the damage was not intentional.

Actually i'm right it was an injury to his property caused by a vehicle. If the person had denied it they would have been prosecuted.

dr.fuzzenstein

Lance: Still got your Malibu?
Vincent: Aw, man. You know what some f*cker did the other day?
Lance: What?
Vincent: F*cking keyed it.
Lance: Oh, man, that's f*cked up.
Vincent: Tell me about it. I had it in storage for three years, it was out for five days and some dickless piece of sh*t ****ed with it.
Lance: They should be f*cking killed. No trial, no jury, straight to execution.
Vincent: Boy, I wish I could've caught him doing it. I'd have given anything to catch that asshole doing it. It'd been worth him doing it just so I could've caught him doing it.
Lance: What a f*cker!
Vincent: What's more chickensh*t than f*cking with a man's automobile? I mean, don't f*ck with another man's vehicle.
Lance: You don't do it.
Vincent: It's just against the rules.

And that is all I have to say about messing with a man's vehicle.

keithclancy

k_mac wrote: »

Actually i'm right it was an injury to his property caused by a vehicle. If the person had denied it they would have been prosecuted.

If there isn't injury to a person or criminal damage the Gardai tell you its a Civil Matter.

Or at least thats what I was told at the Garda station anyway.

Unless they were telling porkies.

coronaextra

The damage to your car is totally unaccetable. The driver thought she got away with it, and more than likely, this is a common occourance. she reverses until she hears a bang then drives off! :mad:

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.. take her to the cleaners and get as much money off this chancer as you can.

This is the only way she may learn to use her mirrors when shes reversing.

Muas Tenek

k_mac wrote: »

I would disagree with the previous posters. Get a good quote and give her the opportunity to pay it. While it may sound good to get her a nice insurance hike or get her prosecuted, once you go through official channels like that your vehicle is recorded as having been involved in a crash. This would have to be declared when you are selling it, no matter how minor the crash was. I prefer to have a clean record on my car.

Also your insurance company may try to load your next premium, similar thing happened to me several years ago and my renewal was several hundred euro up. I tried to change insurance company and the letter from my company stated that I had an incident. Ended having to pay the extra and lodge an appeal. The appeal was granted but only after six months of ringing every other day for an update.

My suggestion would be to get a quote for repair and give her a chance to pay up but specify a short time to make payment. She may want to avoid her no claims bonus going up and get it fixed for you.

djimi

Muas Tenek wrote: »

Also your insurance company may try to load your next premium, similar thing happened to me several years ago and my renewal was several hundred euro up. I tried to change insurance company and the letter from my company stated that I had an incident. Ended having to pay the extra and lodge an appeal. The appeal was granted but only after six months of ringing every other day for an update.

My suggestion would be to get a quote for repair and give her a chance to pay up but specify a short time to make payment. She may want to avoid her no claims bonus going up and get it fixed for you.

Why would they load your insurance if you dont claim? Unless you go thru with the claim and they actually pay out then your policy shouldnt be affected. I had a small accident a couple of years ago, girl ran up the back of me, she was happy to give me a cheque to sort the damage, but I still informed my insurance just to be on the safe side. Didnt affect me one bit, and when I was talking to them I was fully assured that unless you claim then it cant affect your policy.

Muas Tenek

I don't claim to know anything about the insurance business - just passing on the benefit a personal experience if it helps the OP he should ring his insurance company to find out if there would be any issues with this incident and his policy.

VolvoMan

alexmcred wrote: »

Called guards and they bought her out said she was sorry etc.

'Bought' her out

In fairness, the damage doesn't look like much at all and would buff out with a bit of T-Cut. The only reason she probably drove away was because she knew you were going to screw her for a new bumper or whatnot.

MagicSean

keithclancy wrote: »

If there isn't injury to a person or criminal damage the Gardai tell you its a Civil Matter.

Or at least thats what I was told at the Garda station anyway.

Unless they were telling porkies.

If it's a hit and run it will be investigated. It has to be as one of the drivers has left and the other is entitled by law to his information.

However, if it's a minor crash with no injuries it probably will be left to civil remedy providing both drivers are insured and licenced and neither have committed a blatant offence (i.e. breaking a red light, driving while intoxicated etc.)

Bonito

VolvoMan wrote: »

'Bought' her out

In fairness, the damage doesn't look like much at all and would buff out with a bit of T-Cut. The only reason she probably drove away was because she knew you were going to screw her for a new bumper or whatnot.

Still laughing at this! :D:D

She hit his car and drove off, yet he's screwing her?

Brilliant!!!!

alexmcred

VolvoMan wrote: »

'Bought' her out

In fairness, the damage doesn't look like much at all and would buff out with a bit of T-Cut. The only reason she probably drove away was because she knew you were going to screw her for a new bumper or whatnot.

She came out with the guards And I'm not trying to screw anyone I want my car back to the condition it was before some one decided to play bumper cars with it.

Next time some one hits your car and drives away remember your t-cut advice.

To be honest she hit it and thought she would get away with it and she nearly did.

On a more positive note it has now been sorted so once again thanks to all whom were helpful.

P.s. VolvoMan don't think a new bumper is needed And I'll try and not place my car in the way for someone to hit it and drive off next time.:rolleyes:

Bonito

Will T-Cut fix this? Someone hit and run my car but I didn't catch them.

mickdw

I guess people who drive heaps of crap dont understand what its like to get a dent on a good car which you paid a hell of alot of money for.
Some of the comment here are just amazing for a motors forum. His car was damaged & she drove off. Screw her.

The amount of people who say to me - its only a car when Im being a bit paranoid about people opening doors into it & kids scratching it is sickening.

alexmcred

Sorry about your car Bonito it was sheer luck I found her.

Mickdw you summed up my thoughts exactly

djimi

mickdw wrote: »

I guess people who drive heaps of crap dont understand what its like to get a dent on a good car which you paid a hell of alot of money for.
Some of the comment here are just amazing for a motors forum. His car was damaged & she drove off. Screw her.

The amount of people who say to me - its only a car when Im being a bit paranoid about people opening doors into it & kids scratching it is sickening.

I hate that attitude with a passion. For most people its the second biggest investment youll make in your life. I dont care if youre into cars or not, surely somthing you have spend thousands on is some source of pride? If it was a persons house that got damaged Im sure they wouldnt have the same attitude.

Bonito

alexmcred wrote: »

Sorry about your car Bonito it was sheer luck I found her.

Mickdw you summed up my thoughts exactly

Well there's not many yellow cars where I live so hopefully I'll spot them someday. Pretty sure they've robbed some of my paint.

mickdw

djimi wrote: »

I hate that attitude with a passion. For most people its the second biggest investment youll make in your life. I dont care if youre into cars or not, surely somthing you have spend thousands on is some source of pride? If it was a persons house that got damaged Im sure they wouldnt have the same attitude.

Ya if I had kids & they went into someones house & they broke a load of wall tiles or something, the homeowner would be pretty upset & you would certainly be offering to pay but if someones kid did damage to car requiring repainting, do you think anyone woud offer to put it right - No - sure its only a car even though it may be costing 10k per year in depreciation alone.

VolvoMan

Bonito wrote: »

Still laughing at this! :D:D

She hit his car and drove off, yet he's screwing her?

Brilliant!!!!

I think people have missed my point.

What I'm saying is that people panic in these situations and the woman in question was probably afraid that she would be taken to the cleaners for putting a small nick on someone's car.

alexmcred wrote: »

She came out with the guards And I'm not trying to screw anyone I want my car back to the condition it was before some one decided to play bumper cars with it.

Oh I see. You must mean the guards 'brought' her out then.

'Bought' and 'brought' - two quite different words.

Next time some one hits your car and drives away remember your t-cut advice.

To be honest she hit it and thought she would get away with it and she nearly did.

On a more positive note it has now been sorted so once again thanks to all whom were helpful.

P.s. VolvoMan don't think a new bumper is needed And I'll try and not place my car in the way for someone to hit it and drive off next time.:rolleyes:

To be honest, if someone did to my car what they did to yours I'd just leave it be. It's a bit Irish to be screwing someone for causing damage to a car that could be fixed in a few mintues with a bit of polish. Maybe that's the reason why insurance premiums are so high in this country, along with other factors.

Also, as I mentioned previously, you have to take into account the person's state of mind when they did it. That woman probably just panicked rather than intentionally doing a hit and run.

What car is it by the way?

alexmcred

The paint is cracked on the bumper so it won't polish out.

The car is a BMW x1. Regardless of if she panicked or not she had over two hours to come back to me as I was in work she didn't bother.

What I would ask you is do you think it's ok for her to damage my property and just leave?

VolvoMan

alexmcred wrote: »

The paint is cracked on the bumper so it won't polish out.

The car is a BMW x1. Regardless of if she panicked or not she had over two hours to come back to me as I was in work she didn't bother.

What I would ask you is do you think it's ok for her to damage my property and just leave?

Serves you right for buying a BMW X1 then.:P

I'm sorry, only joking, I didn't realise the car was so new. I understand your frustration in that case.

mickdw

VolvoMan wrote: »

To be honest, if someone did to my car what they did to yours I'd just leave it be. It's a bit Irish to be screwing someone for causing damage to a car that could be fixed in a few mintues with a bit of polish. Maybe that's the reason why insurance premiums are so high in this country, along with other factors.

What kind of car do you have then? Have you spent alot of cash on it? Do you keep it in pristine condition?
From your comments, you either have a sh1t box & dont give a damn & possibly drive around tipping the odd car but no harm done, a bit of polish will sort it. .
or
You have a good car which someone else pays for. Either way, you attitude is at odds with that of any reasonable person.
Try to sell a car with few of those type of knocks on it & you would be down thousands.
Does it sound reasonable that someone should be out of pocket due to a strangers stupidity?

D_murph

If someone did that to my car and drove off, when I found them, I would make sure they paid the highest price for the repair possible.

This dopey clown thought she could get away with this but you got her nicely. Well done .

The only thing I would be worried about is the possibility (as mentioned earlier) that if it goes through insurance, your car will come up as having an accident so you may have to watch out for that.

I would definitely take more satisfaction from having her pay out of her own pocket rather than her insurance for this though, especially when she drove off after doing it :mad:. Its the only way she will learn.

alexmcred

To be honest I'm not worried abot any accident that may show I'll be holding onto this car for 5 plus years I just want the car right again.

As annoyed as I am she drove off I'm not trying or going to rip anybody off. I'm just thankful I was able to find her and that I don't have to pay for the damage.

2yung2adm

keithclancy wrote: »

Wrong,

Its a civil matter, section 106 states:


Hence why the gardai did nothing.

Criminal Damage wouldn't apply either as the damage was not intentional.

Cannot agree with you there.
Section 106 of The Road Traffic act is about giving what is known as The appropriate information.
Where the Gardai may deem it as a civil matter is(a) where there is no injury to person (b) The damage is "trivial material damage" and (c) There is no offence disclosed.

Failing to remain at the scene and failing to give the appropriate information there and then or going as soon as practical to a Garda station to report it constitutes an offence

The Gardai were obliged to at least obtain her insurance details and pass them on to you and pass your details to her.
They would have discretion as regards prosecuting on the "hit and run offence"
SECTION106.—(1) Where injury is caused to person or property in a public place and a vehicle is involved in the occurrence of the jury (whether the use of the vehicle was or was not the cause of the injury), the following provisions shall have effect:
[GA]
( a ) if the vehicle is not stationary after the occurrence, the driver of the vehicle shall stop the vehicle;
[GA]
( b ) the driver or other person in charge of the vehicle shall keep the vehicle at or near the place of the occurrence for a period which is reasonable in all the circumstances of the case and having regard to the provisions of this section;
[GA]
( c ) the driver of the vehicle or, if he is killed or incapacitated, the person then in charge of the vehicle shall give on demand the appropriate information to a member of the Garda Síochána or, if no such member is present, to one person entitled under this section to demand such information;
[GA]
( d ) if a member of the Garda Síochána is not present at the occurrence and either—
[GA]
(i) there is no person entitled under this section to demand the information, or
[GA]
(ii) the case is one in which, as respects the sole person entitled under this section to demand the appropriate information or each of the persons so entitled, it is reasonably clear that he could not be expected to make a demand because of injury, illness, age or other disability,
[GA]
the driver of the vehicle or, if he is killed or incapacitated, the person then in charge of the vehicle shall report the occurrence as soon as possible to a member of the Garda Síochána and, if necessary, shall go for that purpose to the nearest convenient Garda Síochána station and also shall give on demand the appropriate information to the member.

VolvoMan

mickdw wrote: »

What kind of car do you have then? Have you spent alot of cash on it? Do you keep it in pristine condition?
From your comments, you either have a sh1t box & dont give a damn & possibly drive around tipping the odd car but no harm done, a bit of polish will sort it. .
or
You have a good car which someone else pays for. Either way, you attitude is at odds with that of any reasonable person.
Try to sell a car with few of those type of knocks on it & you would be down thousands.
Does it sound reasonable that someone should be out of pocket due to a strangers stupidity?

I drive an older car which I do look after, but accept that cars naturally get bangs and scratches as they get older.

Once again I apologise, OP. I can understand how having a new car it's sh1t when someone ruins the experience by doing what they've done to yours.

challengemaster

VolvoMan wrote: »

cars naturally get bangs and scratches as they get older.

That's a new one on me.

If she had the cheek to drive off, i'd be screwing her over. Make sure her NCB gets ruined.