Street Fighter III - Third Strike Online Edition-released

FutureGuy

http://www.siliconera.com/2010/07/24/capcom-announce-street-fighter-3rd-strike-online-edition/

It's a long way off yet, but still cool!

Doctor DooM

Guess I'll give it a shot.

Sagat06

Someone should call around to Placebo's gaff and make sure he's alright

Placebo

its not for you brian

Owwmykneecap

he doesn't like it anymore anyway!

Doctor DooM

Placebo wrote: »

its not for you brian

You never know, I might just learn Remy properly or possibly Ibuki. REALLY annoy poor farzy then

Placebo

Owwmykneecap wrote: »

he doesn't like it anymore anyway!

i take that back
i love it

K.O.Kiki

Doctor DooM wrote: »

You never know, I might just learn Remy properly or possibly Ibuki. REALLY annoy poor farzy then

My Remy is as awesome as your SF4 Guile

Doctor DooM

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

My Remy is as awesome as your SF4 Guile

Well, both our Remy's have taken fights off Farz's chun so I'd say we're even :P

Placebo

in my defense, and i feel i need to say this now,
i have not played in a long long time, i only realised i wasnt even kara throwing with chun, all this time. So i hope for lol's sake, everyone here picks this game up once its at Hype level and then we will see how far those sonic booms take you [yeah GRUDE MATCH, its on]

K.O.Kiki

Me & Doom vs you & Dreddy or Orim.

Team "Hup" vs Team "Ey!"

IT'S ON!!

Blinn

Hopefully this means I won't have to continually troll GGPO for people to play with and get owned by NGUBoy and stuff.

Zapp Brannigan

Might finally get to play this now!

I'll prolly hate it

Doctor DooM

Placebo wrote: »

in my defense, and i feel i need to say this now,
i have not played in a long long time, i only realised i wasnt even kara throwing with chun, all this time. So i hope for lol's sake, everyone here picks this game up once its at Hype level and then we will see how far those sonic booms take you [yeah GRUDE MATCH, its on]

Didn't some one take a fight off you-out of practise or not- having literally played the game 3 times?

Can't quite remember who it was...

Blinn

Elena cosplay represent.

Placebo

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Didn't some one take a fight off you-out of practise or not- having literally played the game 3 times?

Can't quite remember who it was...

i had not played it in 3 years, so i guess it was 2 newbees playing it
anyway guy who i was playing doesnt matter cause i won it.
winners matter. not 2nd placers.

http://logan-1.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/8d/8d18a46a6d93e7e1b12659a21957b01116221f18.png

Doctor DooM

Placebo wrote: »

winners matter. not 2nd placers.

Too true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DJTJl6wz9Q

Blinn

let's make this thread about elena

Doctor DooM

Lets make this thread about rem-




on second thoughts, no.

K.O.Kiki

Scavenger XIII

Are they doing balance fixes?

I love 3S but if they aren't rebalancing what's the point?

Doctor DooM

Scavenger XIII wrote: »

Are they doing balance fixes?

I love 3S but if they aren't rebalancing what's the point?

lol could you imagine the 3s fans if they did?

If they did could they please sort out Remy's health ffs. It's not like he's akuma.

Scavenger XIII

Do what HDR did, classic mode.

If people can't live without their broken BS they can go play that.

Also I'm the Remy man, get outta town. :pac:

Ken B

A couple of new fighters(Sagat and Vega perhaps)..........would be beyond amazing!

Placebo

they need to balance it , too broken

chun/yun too strong
damage needs rescaling, some supers do too much damage
uriens super juggles, broken [no offence ramza]
makoto 100% kills also broken [same goes for urien]
givien chun 2 supers as as bad as giving ryu 2xdenjins in previous iterations
get rid of remy, what a silly character

list goes on.
i would say its a direct port though

Voa

My planned steps;

1. Learn how to parry EVERYTHING
2. Learn to 720 off a parry
3. =3

That is all.

K.O.Kiki

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnDYiZARAtY

chris mcmahon

Blinn wrote: »

Elena cosplay represent.

i would ride her into battle!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dracucard

Now people wont have to play it on a laptop or complain about the bad xbox port :P

Ramza

Placebo wrote: »

they need to balance it , too broken

chun/yun too strong
damage needs rescaling, some supers do too much damage
uriens super juggles, broken [no offence ramza]
makoto 100% kills also broken [same goes for urien]
givien chun 2 supers as as bad as giving ryu 2xdenjins in previous iterations
get rid of remy, what a silly character

list goes on.
i would say its a direct port though

Only thing that 3s needs fixing is Chun and Yun. I disagree with the rest. Every super in the game juggles pretty much (apart from the obvious ones) so I don't know what you mean?

Urien isn't broken, not at all. He's upper mid at best if you want to split hairs. Urien has no 100% combos. They all involve resets. Learn to parry the UB. Pretty much the same as me saying Ryu can juggle two x SA1 in corner. It's totally irrelevant. Not being a dick but acting totally on a neutral basis

Makoto 100% kills are nearly all char specific and some are really hard to do, to be fair. There's tonnes of ways to bait out karakusa. It's grand

If anything, make Genei Jin meter longer (harder to build) but deplete at same rate, and also fix how much meter Yun builds (just insane)

And nerf Chun cr.mk hit confirm so it's like a normal hit confirm. And one stock for SA2

But I disagree with 3s being broken tbh. Nonsense. It seems like I'm just trying to defend my favorite game lol. But even with HDR, didn't see a point in Sirlin ****ing with it. I hate HDR. Should of left the damn game alone. It's 11 years after 3s has been released. An online revamp is awesome but not a point at all in bothering to re balance games that obviously don't need it/are that old/accepted. Totally against motives like that

Scavenger XIII wrote: »

broken BS

Like?

Scavenger XIII

Broken was maybe slightly too strong as word, ridiculously lopsided unfair bull**** would perhaps have been a better choice.

Just because something is technically beatable doesn't mean it's remotely fair.

K.O.Kiki

Try to fix this retarded matchup:

Retarded tier
Makoto, 1.5-8.5: Q is terribly disadvantaged at all times

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A single move of hers, the karakusa, beats literally everything you can do on wakeup, including blocking, parrying, poking, and random supering. Even if you jump or backdash, she recovers before you can hit her on the way down and before you’re done dashing, and if she was right next to you as you woke up her grab has enough range to catch you if you dash back. You have zero options on wakeup. Zero!

UberPrinny_Baal

This seems to be too much the cult entry in the street fighter series.

I imagine any attempt at balances changes would results in 100% bile and rage from the fanbase.

I'm not even sure I see how this announcement affects this community at all. The link seems to suggest it as being a download title but it seems like disc games are a lot easier for us to get running.

Blinn

Placebo

ramza everyone knows the game is broken. [lets build meters in seconds]
that makoto combo is not hard.

[urien] learning to parry a move is hardly an answer.

If anything, make Genei Jin meter longer

even with any attributes you mentioned to this, i think this is absolutely ridiculous.

i think your defending the game too much, we all love it [and that we did because it was the only latest street fighter installment with readily available online play] but its not right.

Ramza

Placebo wrote: »

ramza everyone knows the game is broken. [lets build meters in seconds]
that makoto combo is not hard.

[urien] learning to parry a move is hardly an answer.

Well tbh the characters which you yourself named as broken only benefit from whiffing normals imho

yeah ok, kara fugigake isn't hard, then dash under reverse fugigake :rolleyes: im awaiting our next game when you do it 100% on me

i don't know what the last part means but, parrying is the answer? to escape the unblockable i mean

no game is perfect, every game has its quirks. 3s is just as good as the next

Edit : farz you misread my post, i said make genei jin meter longer so its harder to build it up :pac: but make it deplete at same rate

am defending nothing, im giving common sense answers to points that i don't agree with. in my first post i even mentioned some **** which is a little OP

All I'm saying is like, in essence, the game doesn't need to be completely rebalanced. Changing a few things wont work, trust me. It's a different case if a game is in it's first stages or is only new etc, but 3rd Strike has been out 11 years. It's accepted by now. If the game was as broken as you claim do you think maybe some action would of been taken? Who knows. All I'm saying is the game is as it stands and I think it should be left alone, like all established games. It doesn't need it, an entire 100% rebalance wont work. When you try to please people you always let down others. There's always going to be negative response. Best way Capcom can save time and money is to not bother with a rebalance (which I hope they do).

I'm talking from a practical point of view. I hope you don't see this as a personal vendetta farz so sorry if I come across as blunt but that's me. My mindset is like, oh, why not rebalance all the alpha games while we are at it, for example. Typical response is "those games are not played anymore/dead//old/they not hugely broken". So why is 3s any different?

Placebo

i accept the differences,
im not saying im practical at the mokoto combo but ive seen mokoto players pull it off at a constant basis.

I just think a lot of people were afriad to pick up the game because they were easily dominated by average to good players. That cant be said for sf4.

However saying all of that i dont think your point of 'why the game was not balanced before' is a relevant point. Arcades previously may not have had patch functionality, even if that was the case, ps2/xbox/dream cast didnt not have patchable capabilities. Capcom did not listen to their 'fans' back then AND the game only reached its full potential/hype years after its release.

GorySnake

Just buff up the weaker, lesser used characters. No one can complain then, as long as they're actual buffs (HD Fei's chicken wing = BS)

animaX

Wow, that elena cosplay girl is a godess! (hope she's not shopped like farz's samples)

On a related note

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sewDV8VBQgA

Looking forward to third strike online edition only if they rebalance a bit

Ramza

All points taken into consideration farz

And yeah in my first post that's how I mean, that makoto combo is hard but the top players got it down to a tee.

the real question is if capcom did take the time to completely rebalance 3s, do you reckon it would reunite it? i mean did sirlin's HDR bring back st? i actually don't know. i don't think capcom would do well to rebalance it but it's just my opinion

And like I said in my 1st post, I agree with the whole chun yun thing. **** them characters. i play yun myself as sub but that nigga is too OP

animaX wrote: »

Looking forward to third strike online edition only if they rebalance a bit

ah sure Terry you'd hate it then, no top tier to whore :pac:

Monkeyto

I pick Ken!

Doctor DooM

Ramza wrote: »

All points taken into consideration farz

And yeah in my first post that's how I mean, that makoto combo is hard but the top players got it down to a tee.

the real question is if capcom did take the time to completely rebalance 3s, do you reckon it would reunite it? i mean did sirlin's HDR bring back st? i actually don't know. i don't think capcom would do well to rebalance it but it's just my opinion

Well, take me for example.

Came back into the fold with 4. Was quite enjoying 3S until I played you and Tin.

Unblockables? Bull ****.

1 Hit kill combos? Bull ****.

I shouldn't have to be a master at parrying to start enjoying the game. I shouldn't have to spend an entire round zoning a character out or I automatically die.

Why would someone like me bother learning 3S when that is my initial experience with the game, as would be any other new people? Why would they come away from 4 with it's level playing field?

Bear in mind that'd I'd be waaay more "play to win" than the average new person to pick the game up.

chopperbyrne

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Well, take me for example.

Came back into the fold with 4. Was quite enjoying 3S until I played you and Tin.

Unblockables? Bull ****.

1 Hit kill combos? Bull ****.

I shouldn't have to be a master at parrying to start enjoying the game. I shouldn't have to spend an entire round zoning a character out or I automatically die.

Why would someone like me bother learning 3S when that is my initial experience with the game, as would be any other new people? Why would they come away from 4 with it's level playing field?

Bear in mind that'd I'd be waaay more "play to win" than the average new person to pick the game up.

SF II has lots of ToD combos that are generally far easier to do than the few 100% combos in 3S.

Still not a fan of the game though and won't be spending any money on this version of it.

UberPrinny_Baal

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Why would someone like me bother learning 3S when that is my initial experience with the game, as would be any other new people? Why would they come away from 4 with it's level playing field?

I don't feel quite as strongly about it as you Doom, but that's pretty much my opinion too.

K.O.Kiki

chopperbyrne wrote: »

SF II has lots of ToD combos that are generally far easier to do than the few 100% combos in 3S.

Still not a fan of the game though and won't be spending any money on this version of it.

I don't think I've ever seen a single 100% combo in a tournament (Zangief tricks not-withstanding)

Doctor DooM

chopperbyrne wrote: »

SF II has lots of ToD combos that are generally far easier to do than the few 100% combos in 3S.

Still not a fan of the game though and won't be spending any money on this version of it.

yup but we're not talking about SF2, Ramza was wondering if balancing would bring 3S back to life.

I don't put any serious time into any SF2 game either.


EDIT: As I said about insta dizzies, I have also never ever had a ToD combo done on me on an SF2 game, and I have spent thousands of hours playing them. I have in 3s and I've spent maybe 2 hours playing that.

GorySnake

ST may not be back but HDR is relevant now. It was at Evo and I heard its at SVB.

Owwmykneecap

I don't want a rebalanced version, and I play Alex ffs.

Doctor DooM

GorySnake wrote: »

ST may not be back but HDR is relevant now. It was at Evo and I heard its at SVB.

Nah man, unless it's at inferno it's not important.

Orim

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Nah man, unless it's at inferno it's not important.

ST is at DoC (We have a belt ffs) and assuming all goes well with Inferno 11, we could very well see ST/HDR at Inferno 12.

GorySnake

Diversifying Inferno will be good, spread the focus to other games, even if its another SF.