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Arab who claimed to be Jew jailed for 'rape by deception'

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    God help any English lads called Paddy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,763 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    God help any Irish lads called Zohan.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭KungPao




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Sea Sharp


    I like to use the name Fernando.
    If I say anything offensive: "Sorry, it because my English not so good."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭KungPao


    Maybe Brent has some info on it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nyCIqJP_4s


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    It's rare that I say this. That's a really unbelievably stupid court decision.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,228 ✭✭✭epgc3fyqirnbsx


    Thats very silly and wouldn't happen here, thank God. There is rape by deception but it is to deceive someone about the nature of the act, ie they didnt know they were having sex, as opposed to the circumstances


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    That is just retarded. Probably because he was Palistinian.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    I tried to rape myself once, but it didn't work. The element of surprise just wasn't there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    The charge is rarely used in the West. In 2007, a Syrian pilot walked free from a court in Swansea after being accused of tricking a woman into intercourse by saying it could cure her of a sexually transmitted disease.

    haha, lying to a girl with an STD so you can shag her? Genius.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭entropi


    The judge should be officially labelled as a moron and shot out of a cannon into the sun...seriously stupid thing for anyone with "supposed" sense and impartiality to do. It never mentioned in there that the guy pretended to be jewish in order to sleep with her, just presumption as usual because that woman was herself, ethnically biased and only slept with him as she "thought" he was jewish and not Palestinian?

    Stupid bint!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    The bint should be locked up for being racist.

    Hope he got to shag her before she noticed his very un-jewish foreskin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭ElaElaElano


    After striking up a conversation, the two went into a top-floor room of a nearby office-block and engaged in a sexual encounter, after which Mr Kashur left before the woman had a chance to get dressed.
    "If she hadn't thought the accused was a Jewish bachelor interested in a serious romantic relationship, she would not have co-operated," Mrs Segal said as she delivered her verdict.

    Well, that makes loads of sense.

    True title of the article should be 'Palestinian jailed for being Palestinian'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭NoHornJan


    How many times all over the world, including Israel, is that stunt pulled?
    Guys trying to impress girls by letting on to be a little more affluent and superior in their existance to what they really are. If they all ended up in court there wouldn't be enough jails in the world to incarcerate them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 st_andalou


    If she was really interested in a "courtship" like she claimed, then why did she have sex on the first date?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭The Highwayman


    st_andalou wrote: »
    If she was really interested in a "courtship" like she claimed, then why did she have sex on the first date?

    There was no courtship they just met on the street and went for a shag on a roof. The only guilty one here is the girl she is a slag and a racist. If it were the other way around I dont see a jewish man being jailed for lying to an islamic woman.
    What a country!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,373 ✭✭✭Executive Steve


    Oh those wacky Israelis, what will they think of next.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭AgileMyth


    The charge is rarely used in the West. In 2007, a Syrian pilot walked free from a court in Swansea after being accused of tricking a woman into intercourse by saying it could cure her of a sexually transmitted disease.

    A court in Massachusetts also acquitted a man who allegedly masqueraded as his twin-brother in order to have sex with the man's wife.
    Legends:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Israel, where the Jews behave like Nazis


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    'I think you have the lovliest eyes on the planet'

    'Ohh, c'mere big fella and horse it into me'

    'Actually, I tell a lie. That Afghani chick has the lovliest eyes'

    'Rapist!'


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Israel, where the Jews behave like Nazis
    Nail on the head.
    You can't say that though, because then you'll be labelled as a nazi and a racist (apparently Judaism, a religious belief, is a race) and a bigot and so forth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 489 ✭✭Trashbat


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Hope he got to shag her before she noticed his very un-jewish foreskin.

    Muslims also get circumcised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,939 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    can you imagine the damage he'd do in coppers if he was let loose there? from the article, i've got it in my head that it took them about 5 or 10 minutes to get giggidy. i wonder what his chat up line was?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 162 ✭✭Din Taylor


    If "rape by deception" is a crime then I'm a serial rapist I'm afraid.:rolleyes:

    On a serious not the article is in the Telegraph so there is probably more to the case than meets the eye. Also can people leave Godwin out of this thread.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 610 ✭✭✭TerryTibbs!


    I should move there and claim to be a jew, end of day I am Irish so I am grand. Worst case scenario they hit me up for a few passports.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Bentlee Attractive Crosswalk


    You can read about bombing and attacks all day long, but it's crap like this that really drives home how racist they are...


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,741 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    I can hear the sound of 1980s South Africa laughing at how ridiculous this is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 977 ✭✭✭Abrasax


    I'm curious to see who'll come in and defend Israel on this one.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I can hear the sound of 1980s South Africa laughing at how ridiculous this is.
    Well Israel was one of the few states that would deal with those muppets back in apartheid days...

    I suppose if you have a bunch of people believing for 1000's of years that their imaginary friend in the sky made them exalted above others and that others were less than human*, throw in a side order of persecution for nealy as long then you get guff like this. While going down the road of Godwin is far too easy, the parallels between this and the Nazi's notion of their "purity" and that purity which could not be mixed with the "subhumans" is all too familiar. Well it's all too familiar where any group consider themselves above others. Of course in that part of the wrld you have two bunches of people believing much the same thing.

    Judging by the article thankfully there are still Israeli Jewish voices willing to call fcukwittery on guff like this. Hopefully they get more support. Idiotic decisions like this can only help actually.



    *Christians will know of the good Samaritan story. To them its a nice moral tale, but to the Jewish audience of the time, it would have been very radical. The very idea of a non Jew being morally superior would have had some foaming at the mouth.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭bluto63


    sceptre wrote: »
    It's rare that I say this. That's a really unbelievably stupid court decision.

    I can sorta see where they're coming from, don't agree with it, but can understand. But rape is not what he should be accused of, maybe false advertising!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭dilallio


    The charge is rarely used in the West. In 2007, a Syrian pilot walked free from a court in Swansea after being accused of tricking a woman into intercourse by saying it could cure her of a sexually transmitted disease.

    She should have used this dating site.

    For the girl who has everything .....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭StormWarrior


    Reminds me of the time I was at a festival and met a bloke with an accent who said he was Finnish. Having an uncontrollable attraction to Scandinavians, I went back to his tent with him. I can't describe the disappointment the next day when the Finnish accent had been replaced by a brummie one. *sigh*. If only I had thought to call the police.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    I hear you're a racist rapist now father?

    Ridiculous decision by the court. but then again, it is an Israeli court.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    ...Having an uncontrollable attraction to Scandinavians...
    Hi, I'm Sven.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Considering that this is the country that has this kind of thing going on....
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/sep/29/israel-jewish-arab-couples


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Where's BlaasForRafa and FlutterinBantam? 3 pages in and they still haven't surfaced. Something eerie is going on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Terry wrote: »
    Nail on the head.
    You can't say that though, because then you'll be labelled as a nazi and a racist (apparently Judaism, a religious belief, is a race) and a bigot and so forth.
    Israel, wo die schwache Juden wie Nazis verhalten stronh

    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 959 ✭✭✭changes


    This really highlights the contempt the israelis hold palastinians in. They must view them as sub human.

    A european or american christian or non jew would not have been dealt with the same by the israeli courts.

    Scandalous judgement by a pretty mad state if you ask me.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    why can't girls just have fun and go with the flow? it makes it alot easier for the two parties,ungratful fúcks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    What tipped her off ? I wonder was he all 'Oy, Vey, bubby' then forgot where he was and broke into an 'Allahu Akhbar' at the end ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    why can't girls just have fun and go with the flow?
    It gets messy.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    . . . I tried it once


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    We're just ignoring the part of the article where Israeli legal experts and human rights activists are quoted condemning the verdict then, are we?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    All those posh D4 wannabe's better watch out!


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,741 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    We're just ignoring the part of the article where Israeli legal experts and human rights activists are quoted condemning the verdict then, are we?

    Yeah, because that's not really worth a hill of chick peas to the guy who's been imprisoned for not being Chosen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭Hyperbullet


    "If she hadn't thought the accused was a Jewish bachelor interested in a serious romantic relationship, she would not have co-operated," Mrs Segal said as she delivered her verdict.

    Harsh sentence. Looking at the judge though its no wonder:

    http://marriedandwhatnot.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/steven_seagal.jpg

    I realise the spelling is different. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    We're just ignoring the part of the article where Israeli legal experts and human rights activists are quoted condemning the verdict then, are we?

    Fair enough, I'm just jumping on the AH reactionist train. Toot tooot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    God help any Irish lads called Zohan.


    :(





    All we have to do is shout "surprise" first. ;)


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,741 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Harsh sentence. Looking at the judge though its no wonder:

    http://marriedandwhatnot.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/steven_seagal.jpg

    I realise the spelling is different. :D

    Maybe you mean this Mrs. Segal?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    There was no courtship they just met on the street and went for a shag on a roof. The only guilty one here is the girl she is a slag and a racist. If it were the other way around I dont see a jewish man being jailed for lying to an islamic woman.
    What a country!

    Nah he'd probably stoned to death I'd imagine...

    I'm off to catch a flight to Madrid to pretend to be Spanish now :p


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