Speed Kills!!!!11

Fighting Irish

Such bull****, stupidity kills

Hazys

Its not the speed that kills you, its the suddenly stopping that does

Speeding isn't dangerous.. Driving dangerously is dangerous.

Pace2008

It's not black and white like that; there should be a "both" option.

Stupidity causes accidents, speed escalates the severity of the crash.

fikay

Often go hand in hand tbh

SeaFields

Speed doesnt kill, its the misapplication of speed that kills.

Fighting Irish

Pace2008 wrote: »

It's not black and white like that; there should be a "both" option.

Stupidity causes accidents, speed escalates the severity of the crash.

But I'm talking about the often quoted "speed kills" saying

-Corkie-

Stupidity. Thought the youtube clip had some insane driving on it maybe..

Nice thing wrapping your man up. She could wrap me up anyday....;)

Fighting Irish

fikay wrote: »

Often go hand in hand tbh

not really

Sykk

Fighting Irish wrote: »

Such bull****, stupidity kills

Yes because in every exception it's a drivers fault he crashes.... You haven't thought this one through sunshine.

Andy-Pandy

Well according to Canned Heat its speed that kills.

Celly Smunt

speed is good.

Pace2008

Fighting Irish wrote: »

But I'm talking about the often quoted "speed kills" saying

You've got to accommodate for the fact that there are always going to awful drivers on the roads, and accidents are often out of your control.

Everybody thinks they're above average drivers, anyway.

AnonoBoy

Speed/Stupidity Doesn't Kill People, Rappers Do.

I saw it on a documentary on BBC 2.

fontanalis

Do a you tube search for diffiing
If only we could harness the power of stupid for good!

Snowie

un nesscerey speed kills.

mardybumbum

If you take it with anti depressants it can be fatal.

Minstrel27

Fighting Irish wrote: »

Such bull****, stupidity kills

Not everyone is a super driver like you Michael Schumacher.

St._Andalou

Speeding is stupidity.

Fighting Irish

Sykk wrote: »

Yes because in every exception it's a drivers fault he crashes.... You haven't thought this one through sunshine.

I'm comparing it to stupidity, nothing else, stop nit picking

Adamisconfused

Inappropriate speeding is a major part of the problem. If you were permitted, then doing 120-130kmh on a dual carriageway wouldn't be a danger, given the correct weather conditions. Doing that around the ring of Kerry would be stupid.

Fighting Irish

Minstrel27 wrote: »

Not everyone is a super driver like you Michael Schumacher.

I'm not a super driver, but i have common sense

Fighting Irish

Adamisconfused wrote: »

Inappropriate speeding is a major part of the problem. If you were permitted, then doing 120-130kmh on a dual carriageway wouldn't be a danger, given the correct weather conditions. Doing that around the ring of Kerry would be stupid.

doing 120 around the ring of kerry is stupidity

Ghost Train

Earth is moving around the Sun at about 67,000 miles per hour a few extra mph in a car not going to make much of a differance

Pace2008

Fighting Irish wrote: »

I'm not a super driver, but i have common sense

In addition to thinking they're better than the average driver, most people also believe they're blessed with "common sense," which often seems to nothing more than their arbitrary worldview.

Ghost Train wrote: »

Earth is moving around the Sun at about 67,000 miles per hour a few extra mph in a car not going to make much of a differance

You are joking...?

Mac Masters

Speed doesn't always kill!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT8GbYL35oU

DonkeyStyle \o/

They say it was the guy without the seatbelt that did the damage

Cypher_sounds

Its the speeding because that is stupid, speeding kills you. Slow down folks, plan your journey and there's no need to be speeding, unless you want to take that chance to have an accident which is stupid

stealthyspeeder

Speed is brilliant, as long as its done stealthily!

Fighting Irish

Pace2008 wrote: »

In addition to thinking they're better than the average driver, most people also believe they're blessed with "common sense," which often seems to nothing more than their arbitrary worldview.

:rolleyes:

SV

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

Its the speeding because that is stupid, speeding kills you. Slow down folks, plan your journey and there's no need to be speeding, unless you want to take that chance to have an accident which is stupid

How do you, personally, define 'speeding'?

Pace2008

Fighting Irish wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Nice rebuttal.

Cypher_sounds

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

Its the speeding because that is stupid, speeding kills you. Slow down folks, plan your journey and there's no need to be speeding, unless you want to take that chance to have an accident which is stupid

By speeding do you mean driving faster than a number written on a sign decided by someone years and years ago and then brainwashed into the majority of people as being some magic number below which is ok but above is some crazy warp speed,

or do you mean driving at a speed which is inappropriate for the conditions, the road, the comparabilities of your car etc?

Ollchailin

I'll tell ya what's stupidity- that poll. It's not as black and white as one or the other.

It's the stupidy at driving at an inappropriate speed that kills. Driving 120km/h on one road is sensible, but on another road is stupid- and even if it doesn't kill, is highly irresponsible & completely disregards anyone else using the same road as you.

Fighting Irish

Pace2008 wrote: »

Nice rebuttal.

There is no rebuttal, i have no way to prove it

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Sykk wrote: »

Yes because in every exception it's a drivers fault he crashes.... You haven't thought this one through sunshine.

What movie is that from?

On topic, a new entry: arrogance. The belief that the speed limit does not apply to you because you're a better driver than everyone else. Until...

Same with drunk driving.

Overflow

Hazys wrote: »

Its not the speed that kills you, its the suddenly stopping that does

It's not the stopping that kills you, it's your organs impacting the inside of your body.

:pac::pac:

AudreyHepburn

It's being stupid enough to think that you are so invincible that you can speed on busy and/or dangerous roads, possibly aided by alcohol that kills.

Speeding is dangerous in itself but the lack of common sense of some young drivers doesn't help.

The poll needs more options IMO.

Pace2008

Fighting Irish wrote: »

There is no rebuttal, i have no way to prove it

This is the problem. Most people think they're better than the average driver, and most people think they possess good common sense. There has to be some form of restrictions put in place (whether the limits that have been imposed are reasonable is another topic for debate) or everyone would be flying around at whatever speed they feel like because they think they're personally capable of doing so, when in fact many of them are suffering from illusory superiority.

Fighting Irish wrote: »

But I'm talking about the often quoted "speed kills" saying

It is a contributory factor in serious road-traffic accidents. You can't just tell people to stop being **** drivers; this is something that needs to be addressed at a licensing level.

Any idiot can release the pressure on the accelerator, though.

Trashbat

Chicken and Egg scenario here really. Driving with too much speed is a stupid thing to do.

From a physics perspective, You are less likely to have full control and will have less time to react to a problem if you are moving faster. That is undisputable fact. Therefore, if accidents and road deaths are caused by the driver losing control or not having enough time to react, then yes, they speed they were going at is a contributing factor.

It really annoys me having to listen to these Clarkson mouthpieces spouting off about how only good drivers should be allowed on the road and then we'd all be allowed do what ever speed we like. Its nonsense. The only reason people want to drive faster is because it feels awesome. Trying to pretend it is in anyway safer than obeying speed limits is absolute nonsense.

I'm actually in favour of zero tolerance when it comes to the roads. People wouldnt take stupid risks if it carried a 4 year sentence.

Brendog

fikay wrote: »

Often go hand in hand tbh

Well thats dangerous driving if you're not even holding onto the wheel!!

Joey the lips

There is no doubt in my mind that speed kills and if stupidity prevents anyone from seeing it then perhaps they are stupid people driving fast who have yet to be caught.

Most accidents happen on rural roads not rated for speed

Fighting Irish

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

It's being stupid enough to think that you are so invincible that you can speed on busy and/or dangerous roads, possibly aided by alcohol that kills.

Speeding is dangerous in itself but the lack of common sense of some young drivers doesn't help.

The poll needs more options IMO.

It's not just young drivers

Fighting Irish

Pace2008 wrote: »

This is the problem. Most people think they're better than the average driver, and most people think they possess good common sense. There has to be some form of restrictions put in place (whether the limits that have been imposed are reasonable is another topic for debate) or everyone would be flying around at whatever speed they feel like because they think they're personally capable of doing so, when in fact many of them are suffering from illusory superiority.

It is a contributory factor in serious road-traffic accidents. You can't just tell people to stop being **** drivers; this is something that needs to be addressed at a licensing level.

Any idiot can release the pressure on the accelerator, though.

If it was up to me, there'd be no speed limits, cause a crash and you're fined a big sum of cash, cause a crash that kills someone and you're off the road for good

mikerowsopht

Don't drink & drive
you'll spill yer drink

Minstrel27

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Speeding is dangerous in itself but the lack of common sense of some young drivers doesn't help.

Turn 25 and you are not a dangerous driver anymore?

Cypher_sounds

Cadence Future Crumb wrote: »

By speeding do you mean driving faster than a number written on a sign decided by someone years and years ago and then brainwashed into the majority of people as being some magic number below which is ok but above is some crazy warp speed,

or do you mean driving at a speed which is inappropriate for the conditions, the road, the comparabilities of your car etc?

Obviousy by your latter example, going too fast for the conditions at the time is speeding, like not being able to stop in time and not being able to think ahead about the implications of how fast you are going in a certain situation

The speed on the signs are a load of bollix for a lot of the roads around ireland

Pace2008

Fighting Irish wrote: »

If it was up to me, there'd be no speed limits, cause a crash and you're fined a big sum of cash, cause a crash that kills someone and you're off the road for good

That would not be enough of a deterrent because, as I keep saying, everyone thinks they're a great driver and car crashes aren't for them.

oldyouth

Excessive speeding IS stupidity. In my opinion, the fact that so many people here (and in the poll) disagree, shows that we have yet to learn proper respect for the dangers that can exist on our roads

charlemont

Fighting Irish wrote: »

If it was up to me, there'd be no speed limits, cause a crash and you're fined a big sum of cash, cause a crash that kills someone and you're off the road for good

no speed limits .. some dodgy roads then.. what would happen to young women driving cars with a loud baby trying to concentrate on the road................

Fighting Irish

oldyouth wrote: »

Excessive speeding IS stupidity. In my opinion, the fact that so many people here (and in the poll) disagree, shows that we have yet to learn proper respect for the dangers that can exist on our roads

I often do 140 on a 120 motorway when the conditions allow it, i don't see any stupidity in that at all