Murder set to be legalised by xmas

Highly Salami

This progressive society has gone toofar this time. Whatever next? Marijuana? Political correctness gone mad, I tells ya! source:http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/justice-minister-urges-restraint-ahead-of-new-home-protection-laws-466047.html

Kasabian

Thread title is a lie

Millicent

Rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble. Bleedin' fordiners. PC correctness gone mad. etc. etc. ad infitum.

Anthony Walsh

At last, it brings a tear to my eye. It is what I always wanted for xmas.

wes

I don't really see the issue. People have every right to defend there homes from intruders imho.

zuroph

awesome, I'm bringing anyone I kill back to my house, breaking a window, putting a stripey top on them and placing a bag marked "SWAG" in their hands..

recylingbin

ribbit.

tommyhaas

Murder Defending your home against armed robbers set to be legalised by xmas

Fixed your title

easyeason3

Santa's gonna be fcuked this year.

genericguy

that's not murder. what would you do OP - make a junkie a cup of tea and try to talk to him about the error of his ways? if someone broke into my house they'd be getting a broken bottle up their arse.

this is actually the first useful/progressive legislative change this useless cnut has presided over.

orourkeda

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G07szNm_5Jk&feature=PlayList&p=B272C98052AAFDFD&playnext_from=PL&index=9

Kinky Slinky

merely re-states the law, and defines what reasonable force can be used.

However, it will allow a person use a firearm if they believe a burglar is armed and refused to retreat.

All's fair in love and burglary ... about time they brought in laws to protect the home owner

Wossack

thread fails to deliver

Pace2008

I'm pretty sure the OP's being tongue-in-cheek.

Daemos

Xmas huh? We still have 990 years so

Naos

And we're allowed to use firearms if the burgular is armed, interesting.

Holsten

Brilliant, finally the goverment does something good for once.

If somone breaks into your home they forfit their rights.

ejmaztec

Is it okay if we have a pre-emptive strike on a prospective burglar's property, and kill him at source, on the grounds that he might rob us in the future? We then won't have our living-rooms messed up with chalk lines, blood and body-parts.

fontanalis

High Salami
You yourself canhelp reduce the muder rate? How you ask with a large smile? By announcing to all burglars your home address and by stating the hours you will be vacant. That way burglars get to burglarise without fear of being hurt and other home owners don't get burglarised.

epgc3fyqirnbsx

This is just giving statutory footing to what was a an accepted reasoning process all along.

Talk about a silly thread title

danniemcq

At least this new law/redesign law means that if a scumbag is breaking into your house and cuts himself on the window he just broke he can't can't sue you.

That was quite possibly the most idiotic law ever passed. I'll tell you one thing i don't care what the law was before this or if it doen't come into effect till christmas, anyone breaking into my house i'm taking no chances and gonna clobber with the stick i used going up Croagh Patrick or anything else i have lying around till my arms are sore. Then i'll kick them.

easyeason3

Naos wrote: »

And we're allowed to use firearms if the burgular is armed, interesting.

So what you need is a firearm registered to you.
You also need an unregistered/ stolen firearm to place beside the burgular after you shoot him/ her.

Morlar

Millicent wrote: »

Rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble. Bleedin' fordiners. PC correctness gone mad. etc. etc. ad infitum.

Wow that inverse godwin didn't take long did it - post #3 ! going for a record ?

This thread title is a dissappointment - I had my enemies list ready and everything

c-note

About bloody time.

Thankfully i have never been burgled, but know ppl who have.
They loose much more than what burglers take.
They loose sense of security and safety in their own home.

If i am ever in any situtaion where i take action to defend myself, my family or my friends in the face of an attack of whatver nature i am not going to stop to consider legal implications of what i'm instincivly going to do.

if someone, of their own free will, breaks into my house and threatens me or my family, who is intent on stealing and who may be prepared to harm me or my family in the process, then i dont think that person should be allowed the legal right to leave unharmed.

uwala

AFAIK, in any countries that have brought this in, the burglars have merely armed themselves.

As5hole Dermot Ahern once again trying to make a name for himself before he eventually tries for Taoiseach.

orourkeda

John Ward. We salute you.

jester77

Sounds like the OP might have to make a career change

caseyann

I would have anyway if someone threatened my family anywhere use what ever means needed to protect them.

fontanalis

uwala wrote: »

AFAIK, in any countries that have brought this in, the burglars have merely armed themselves.

As5hole Dermot Ahern once again trying to make a name for himself before he eventually tries for Taoiseach.

Won't someone think of the burglars.

caseyann

c-note wrote: »

About bloody time.

Thankfully i have never been burgled, but know ppl who have.
They loose much more than what burglers take.
They loose sense of security and safety in their own home.

If i am ever in any situtaion where i take action to defend myself, my family or my friends in the face of an attack of whatver nature i am not going to stop to consider legal implications of what i'm instincivly going to do.

if someone, of their own free will, breaks into my house and threatens me or my family, who is intent on stealing and who may be prepared to harm me or my family in the process, then i dont think that person should be allowed the legal right to leave unharmed.

I agree girl i know her house was robbed by armed masked men,she was only 18 at the time they tied up her brother and her and hit her in head with butt of gun also.Scum :mad:

caseyann

Best deterrent though is dogs big monster loud dogs.:D

a load of our neighbours got robbed recently,barr us and the others who had big ass dogs.Our mastiffs are big deterrent :P
http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/dogo-argentino-tm.jpg

Millicent

Morlar wrote: »

Wow that inverse godwin didn't take long did it - post #3 ! going for a record ?

This thread title is a dissappointment - I had my enemies list ready and everything

Was just trying to succinctly sum up the thread title.

And you can still use the list. Luring them to your home is the hard part.

Overheal

Wiggum: (Plucks string) Now sideshow bob cant get in without me knowing and once a man is in your home anything you do to him is nice and legal.

Homer: Is that so? (Leans out window and calls to Ned.) Oh Flanders, won't you join me in my kitchen? (Homer waits to pounce Ned and pounds his fist into his hand.)

Wiggum: Uh, it doesn't work if you invite them in.

Ned: Hidely Hey!

Homer: Go home.

Ned: Toodly Doo!

Morlar

Millicent wrote: »

Was just trying to succinctly sum up the thread title.

And you can still use the list. Luring them to your home is the hard part.

I know I am sneaking off to buy a shotgun & a rocking chair and to leave the window ajar after I post this. Come to papa.

Good news, and a good step. But to be honest, it was always legal at my house. If you broke in, you would never get out in one piece. Anyone coming near my home, where my daughter sleeps would never get out in one piece. Ive had enough crap happen to me over the years without anyone violating my home, my sanctuary. Whatever means nessecary.

Theres enough **** on the streets, Ill be damned if it comes to my home .

Brendog

murder in your home is legal?!?!

NICE!!

this is gonna make getting the TV remote off my brothers so much easier:D

genericguy

uwala wrote: »

As5hole Dermot Ahern once again trying to make a name for himself before he eventually tries for Taoiseach.

imagine his CV:

"increased the profitability of drug dealing and enhanced the product range of gangland criminals.
made it illegal to take the lord's name in vain.
ensured that priests faced no criminal charges or investigation in the face of thousands of rape allegations, and made sure the gheys were not allowed to get married."

I can see it now:

"if i were Taoiseach, i would rename the country 'the holy roman catholic republic of ireland', so please, grannies na hEireann, use your vote."

GavRedKing

Murder or slef defence using deadly force??

Either way its a win - win for people with the balls to stand up to someone breaking into their homes

My name is URL

Yeah, all those hardened criminals will detest this news that someone has a right to clunk 'em over the head with a hurley stick.. or maybe they'll just arm themselves instead

Really all this is is the judicial system showing its inability to properly and consistently sentence people for such crimes.. they're passing the responsibility to fight crime onto you

Millicent

Morlar wrote: »

I know I am sneaking off to buy a shotgun & a rocking chair and to leave the window ajar after I post this. Come to papa.

Might wanna leave a trail of chocolate/heroin/money/naked ladies leading to your house, just to make sure they get there. Fairly sure you can't shoot out of the window though. Damn bureaucracy!

Morlar

Millicent wrote: »

Might wanna leave a trail of chocolate/xxxxxx/money/naked ladies leading to your house, just to make sure they get there. Fairly sure you can't shoot out of the window though. Damn bureaucracy!

Hey if I could muster up a trail of those I'd lock that window.

plein de force

so what? if you go into someones house with the intention of robbing it and probably the intention of hurting the occupiers if they get in your way you deserve everything you get.

you don't happen to be from the criminal loving irish council for civil liberties do you?

Biggins

easyeason3 wrote: »

Santa's gonna be fcuked this year.

A tune suddenly came into my head "I saw mama sucking..." :pac:

Sucked and f**ked - Santa would be so lucky!

Dr Strange

easyeason3 wrote: »

Santa's gonna be fcuked this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57_yqVIqJTs

doncarlos

easyeason3 wrote: »

You also need an unregistered/ stolen firearm to place beside the burgular after you shoot him/ her.

Not at all just stick one of your kitchen knives in his hand. Hey presto you shot an armed intruder!

easyeason3

doncarlos wrote: »

Not at all just stick one of your kitchen knives in his hand. Hey presto you shot an armed intruder!

:eek: :P

Carlos_Ray

Fantastic news. Its about time the laws in this country protected the law abiding citizens as opposed to the scum. I don't have a shot gun, but I'd love the opportunity to blow the head of some syringe wielding rat breaking into my house.

Scuid Mhór

merry christmas.

Bonito

Woah. Some scumbag dying by result of you defending your home and family is murder now? Mind = Blown.

tc2010

Was this not brought in because someone broke into someones house, was attacked then sued the house owner for damages.

peasant

Carlos_Ray wrote: »

I don't have a shot gun, but I'd love the opportunity to blow the head of some syringe wielding rat breaking into my house.

As we know from a multitude of bad westerns, a shotgun only works outside, on the porch, with the swinging flyscreen door behind you.

Inside you need a pistol or a revolver ...neither of which you will get a permit for easily.