Litter Fine

Fuhrer · 19-07-2010 12:13pm #1

Hi there,

Got myself a litter fine in the post today addressed to me using my car reg. Thing is I was at work at the time but it was probably my brother or sister driving the car. Now, given that they would have to pay the fine, neither of them are admitting to driving it.

Any point complaining to the council about being at work or will they just give the "Owner of the car is responsible" line?

paddydriver · 19-07-2010 12:15pm

Does this mean I can just call in anyone that flicks a fag butt out the window and expect they will get a fine? - what's the number?

WindSock · 19-07-2010 12:16pm

If it's your car let neither of them drive it until the fine is paid.

recylingbin · 19-07-2010 12:17pm

Maybe they were complementing you on your littering technique. Room for improvement though.

Biggins · 19-07-2010 12:18pm

Could be wrong but is the fine in your name or just the car reg stated?
If you can show you weren't driving but elsewhere at the time, you might stand a chance of getting off.

Otherwise, if the hassle of proving all that is too much, I'd be tempted to shove it in front of the person who was littering and tell them to pay it or they will never get the car again!

Hasmunch · 19-07-2010 12:19pm

* Runs off to find some random hot girl

Hasmunch Did you arrive in the post at Fuhrers house because you look fine..

Random hot girl Get away from me you freak

fonecrusher1 · 19-07-2010 12:20pm

Just don't let anyone else drive your car in future.

If you allow various people to drive it then yes ultimately it is your responsibility.

WindSock · 19-07-2010 12:22pm

Hasmunch wrote: »

* Runs off to find some random hot girl

Hasmunch Did you arrive in the post at Fuhrers house because you look fine..

Random hot girl I did. Deutschland Deutschland Uber alles

fyp. Made sense to me at the time (30 seconds ago) not too sure now.

Stercus Accidit · 19-07-2010 12:24pm

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Just don't let anyone else drive your car in future.

If you allow various people to drive it then yes ultimately it is your responsibility.

The people who littered are responsible, it doesn't matter that they were in a car at the time or whose car it was.

mikom · 19-07-2010 12:26pm

paddydriver wrote: »

flicks a fag butt out the window

http://www.southportforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64508&stc=1

UrbanSea · 19-07-2010 12:37pm

Hasmunch wrote: »

* Runs off to find some random hot girl

Hasmunch Did you arrive in the post at Fuhrers house because you look fine..

Random hot girl Get away from me you freak

FAIL

fonecrusher1 · 19-07-2010 12:47pm

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

The people who littered are responsible, it doesn't matter that they were in a car at the time or whose car it was.

If the OP allows the car to become a mobile litter sprayer then IMO it is his/her responsibilty to deny the litter-thrower access to the vehicle.

People seem to be happy to chuck rubbish out of a moving car (particularly cigarette butts which i find disgusting & annoying) but wouldn't think about it if they were walking down the street.

People who flick fag ends out of car windows should be dragged out of the car & slapped around the face for a few minutes. Then given a wedgie & then a final good solid kick up the hole sending them back into the car.:)

easyeason3 · 19-07-2010 12:50pm

Could the council have made a mistake with the reg number?
I'd tell them that you were at work, the car was in the carpark & you have no idea how you could be done for littering because you were working.

And then I'd chop the hands off your brother & sister so they can't do it again.

CreepingDeath · 19-07-2010 12:52pm

Fuhrer wrote: »

Got myself a litter fine in the post today addressed to me using my car reg.

What condition is the car in ?
Maybe random bits are falling off it.

Stercus Accidit · 19-07-2010 12:53pm

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

If the OP allows the car to become a mobile litter sprayer then IMO it is his/her responsibilty to deny the litter-thrower access to the vehicle.

No it isn't, if the car had been used in a drive-by would the OP be done for attempted murder?

It is often legal to lend a car to a fully licenced driver once you have the right insurance, you aren't liable for their littering, inside or outside of the car.

fonecrusher1 · 19-07-2010 12:56pm

easyeason3 wrote: »

Could the council have made a mistake with the reg number?
I'd tell them that you were at work, the car was in the carpark & you have no idea how you could be done for littering because you were working.

Yeah then they'll say, do you allow others to drive your car?

And that'l be the end of that argument.

easyeason3 · 19-07-2010 12:58pm

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Yeah then they'll say, do you allow others to drive your car?

And that'l be the end of that argument.

And the obvious answer to that is: 'No, I don't allow anyone else to drive the car'.

PCPhoto · 19-07-2010 1:00pm

best thing to do is ask them for what proof they have - explain to them that you were in work at the time of the alleged offence and could not possibly have committed the alleged littering.

its more than likely they will not have any proof it was you - and if you can prove you were in work...they cant blame you.

(note: dont bother saying it could have been your brother or sister, 'cos for all you know they could have borrowed it and given it to a friend to drive.... so john random could have been driving at the time)

fonecrusher1 · 19-07-2010 1:06pm

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

No it isn't, if the car had been used in a drive-by would the OP be done for attempted murder?

Well if the OP had said that someone had driven his/her car & killed several people with a machine gun & recieved a fine in the post for it then you might have a point & be on-topic.

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

It is often legal to lend a car to a fully licenced driver once you have the right insurance, you aren't liable for their littering, inside or outside of the car.

Really? Fair enough, lets see some back-up information to support what your saying.

SugarHigh · 19-07-2010 1:27pm

If I just pick a car at random and report them for littering will they be fined?

dvpower · 19-07-2010 1:36pm

Fuhrer wrote: »

Got myself a litter fine in the post today addressed to me using my car reg.

Really? Isn't the postal service fantastic!

minister poxbottle · 19-07-2010 2:42pm

SugarHigh wrote: »

If I just pick a car at random and report them for littering will they be fined?

No

SugarHigh · 19-07-2010 3:09pm

minister poxbottle wrote: »

No

shame

minister poxbottle · 19-07-2010 3:17pm

SugarHigh wrote: »

shame

Unless you have some sort of evidence.

Scuid Mhór · 19-07-2010 3:23pm

Fuhrer wrote: »

Hi there,

Got myself a litter fine in the post today addressed to me using my car reg. Thing is I was at work at the time but it was probably my brother or sister driving the car. Now, given that they would have to pay the fine, neither of them are admitting to driving it.

Any point complaining to the council about being at work or will they just give the "Owner of the car is responsible" line?

what crazy people would present der fuhrer with a litter fine?

19-07-2010 4:17pm

Fuhrer wrote: »

Hi there,

Got myself a litter fine in the post today addressed to me using my car reg. Thing is I was at work at the time but it was probably my brother or sister driving the car. Now, given that they would have to pay the fine, neither of them are admitting to driving it.

Any point complaining to the council about being at work or will they just give the "Owner of the car is responsible" line?

Nope, they'll give you the "Owner of the car is assumed to be responsible unless the owner can show who was driving". The same would have happened if your car was caught speeding.

And as already stated, tell them to f*** off if they ever ask for the loan of the car (or anything else) again

Litter Fine

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