Warts on cattle

dryan

Can anyone recommend the best way to treat an animal that has alot of warts - mostly around the neck and head area.

Thanks.

reilig

dryan wrote: »

Can anyone recommend the best way to treat an animal that has alot of warts - mostly around the neck and head area.

Thanks.

Are they warts or ringworm?? I have never seen warts around the neck or hear area of an animal - but have seen lots of animals with ringworm there.

dryan

I guess they are some breed of a wart - very lumpy.

Have treated the odd animal down through the years for ringworm. Never seen it come out like warts before...

reilig

dryan wrote: »

I guess they are some breed of a wart - very lumpy.

Have treated the odd animal down through the years for ringworm. Never seen it come out like warts before...

it must be warts so. i just googled it, it said to talk to your vet. It also said that penicillen is effective, but given time, the warts will clear up on their own.

dryan

reilig wrote: »

but given time, the warts will clear up on their own.

Yeah, i thought that - but some of them are a bit 'raw' looking and are being attacked by the fly a bit. The bullock doesnt seem too bothered about them...but they are a bit unsightly looking so i would like to get them cleared up sooner if i can at all..

whelan1

we had a heifer a few years ago and she had loads of them on her neck ... we put cable ties and the rubber rings for lambs tails on them , brought her in each day and tightened the cable ties a bit .... they eventually fell off but it was yuck - best not done with a hangover ... she's in her 5th lactation now , they never came back

Feargal as Luimneach

dryan wrote: »

Can anyone recommend the best way to treat an animal that has alot of warts - mostly around the neck and head area.

Thanks.

Warts are caused by papillomaviruses. You can get a autogenous vaccine made from the wart. You then inject the beast with the vaccine and the warts then fall off (most of the time).
You pick off a few of the warts make sure and get the base of the wart(the part attached to the skin), this is where the active virus is (The dry tips of the warts have no virus in them and are of no use). Bring these bits of warts to your vet ( straight away if possible, don't leave around for a day or two). He will send them off to get the vaccine made. It's not cheap, I can't remember the exact price. You can get around ten doses in the bottle which you get back. It's of real value in heifers/cows that get warts on their spins. The warts can sometimes damage the teat duct which can lead to mastitis. Warts on the spin can also physically interfer with milking
This vaccine will generally work best on your own farm. On different farm you might have different papillomaviruses so your vaccine might not work.
In most animals the warts fall off themselves. The vaccine is usually recommended for heifers/cows with warts on spins or show animals.
Penicillin will not get rid of the warts. It would however help warts that have become secondarily infected with bacteria.

dar31

Feargal as Luimneach wrote: »

Warts are caused by papillomaviruses. You can get a autogenous vaccine made from the wart. You then inject the beast with the vaccine and the warts then fall off (most of the time).
You pick off a few of the warts make sure and get the base of the wart(the part attached to the skin), this is where the active virus is (The dry tips of the warts have no virus in them and are of no use). Bring these bits of warts to your vet ( straight away if possible, don't leave around for a day or two). He will send them off to get the vaccine made. It's not cheap, I can't remember the exact price. You can get around ten doses in the bottle which you get back. It's of real value in heifers/cows that get warts on their spins. The warts can sometimes damage the teat duct which can lead to mastitis. Warts on the spin can also physically interfer with milking
This vaccine will generally work best on your own farm. On different farm you might have different papillomaviruses so your vaccine might not work.
In most animals the warts fall off themselves. The vaccine is usually recommended for heifers/cows with warts on spins or show animals.
Penicillin will not get rid of the warts. It would however help warts that have become secondarily infected with bacteria.

e80 to get a bottle made up, with enough to do 10 cows, and e80 for each bottle there after

snowman707

Feargal as Luimneach wrote: »

In most animals the warts fall off themselves.

we have found that most warts fall off in time,

also as whelan says the rubber rings work a treat if it is possible to apply them

dryan

cheers for all the info - will just let it run its course and see how it goes.

LostCovey

dryan wrote: »

cheers for all the info - will just let it run its course and see how it goes.

I think that is the only option.

I am pretty sure that autogenous vaccine production is illegal since the most recent animal remedies legislation came in anyway.

LostCovey

LostCovey

reilig wrote: »

It also said that penicillen is effective

Now, stop it, you're just making this up Reilig. Where did you get that gem?

reilig wrote: »

but given time, the warts will clear up on their own.

I agree with this bit, so that's an improvement - I half agree with you this time.

Your advice is improving.

LostCovey

bogman_bass

I've often read in the journal about using a paste of vinegar and bread soda for treating warts on spins

LostCovey

bogman_bass wrote: »

I've often read in the journal about using a paste of vinegar and bread soda for treating warts on spins

Well if it's in the Journal......

Cool croc

we have 2 bullocks that have warts around the neck now, are ye sure its 80euro to get the vaccine for them?

What is the source a the warts...should we be disinfecting the sheds and things like that?

reilig

LostCovey wrote: »

Now, stop it, you're just making this up Reilig. Where did you get that gem?



I agree with this bit, so that's an improvement - I half agree with you this time.

Your advice is improving.

LostCovey

thank you, i agree with you. as usual you are right, if only for the sake of keeping the thread open

LostCovey

Keep sippin' dat Kool-Aid, Reilig

LC

reilig

LostCovey wrote: »

Keep sippin' dat Kool-Aid, Reilig

LC

I agree with you. Well thought out and in depth answer!!!!!

whelan1

what is kool -aid?

reilig

whelan1 wrote: »

what is kool -aid?

Its a ringworm treatment for cattle I think.

LostCovey

reilig wrote: »

Its a ringworm treatment for cattle I think.

Daas raaaiiiyyyt

whelan1

does it work ?

reilig

whelan1 wrote: »

does it work ?

I don't know but I'm sure someone will be along to this thread to tell you.

dungfly

Has anyone used peracetic acid to treat warts on teats? I also read that sodium hypochlorite (chlorus) works also. What dilution rates?

WoollyRedHat

The best way to get rid of warts, or so I'm told, is to rub it with a bit of beef then bury it.

LostCovey

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

The best way to get rid of warts, or so I'm told, is to rub it with a bit of beef then bury it.

At last a practical cure recommended by the zany quacks of boards.ie!

I just tried that on a bullock with very bad warts by the light of a storm lantern.

It wasn't easy, especially the burial bit.

The bullock with the warts kept climbing out of the grave. I got him in eventually and covered him up with clay. Haven't seen a wart since, but there was a bullock missing when I did the herding afterwards.

LC

whelan2

LostCovey wrote: »

At last a practical cure recommended by the zany quacks of boards.ie!

I just tried that on a bullock with very bad warts by the light of a storm lantern.

It wasn't easy, especially the burial bit.

The bullock with the warts kept climbing out of the grave. I got him in eventually and covered him up with clay. Haven't seen a wart since, but there was a bullock missing when I did the herding afterwards.

LC

nice to see you back lc

dungfly

Has anyone used sodium hypochlorite (chlorus)or peracetic acid (serpent) to treat warts? If so what concentrations did you use?

greysides

Ringworm:

Caused by fungal spores that can last years in the environment, especially timber. It spreads directly from infected animals and asymptomatic carriers or, indirectly, by contaminated equipment or clothing. Worst in younger animals (no previous exposure or immunity); a problem of intensive housing (high humidity with warmth, lack of light, long winter coats, close contact), poor nutrition (lack of Vitamins A and D in preserved fodder) and concurrent disease (weakens immunity and lice cause scratching which help pick up and spread of spores).

Prevention is therefore early treatment of initial cases and tackling factors mentioned earlier…improve immunity, not mixing different age groups (variable immune statuses), good ventilation, smaller groups and avoid over-crowding, ensuring adequate mineral/vitamin intake and treatment of other diseases especially those that can easily escape notice ( sub-acute pneumonia, lice, coccidiosis). Use an all-in, all-out system where possible.

Creosoting timber, white washing walls, power-washing and then disinfection with an effective disinfectant (check label as not all are effective) are useful means to lower environmental contamination. A new disinfectant (Steri-7) which remains active for up to 14 days after application and can be applied in soiled conditions holds promise.

Ringworm vaccines (Bovilis Ringvac) are effective is the prevention and treatment of animals with ringworm. Only a primary course of two injections, 10-14 days apart, is needed as immunity is long-lasting. Animals can be treated from 2 weeks old and the immunity should be protective three weeks after the second injection.

Washes (Imaverol, Mycophyt) can be sprayed on after brush removal (soak in solution) of scabs. Spray whole animal with the first application to reach subclinical lesions, Imaverol is repeated 3-4 times at 3 day intervals. Mycophyt is applied similarly and treatment is repeated 4-5 days later. They both can be used in pregnant and lactating animals.

Many topical treatments have been traditionally reported to be successful in cattle, but because spontaneous recovery is common, effectiveness is difficult to prove. Individual animals should still be treated, to limit both progression of existing lesions and spread to cohorts. Thick crusts should be removed gently with a brush, and the material burned or disinfected with hypochlorite solution.

Treatment options depend on allowed usage of some agents in animals meant for slaughter. Agents reported to be of use include washes or sprays of 4% lime sulfur, 0.5% sodium hypochlorite (1:10 household bleach), 0.5% chlorhexidine, 1% povidone-iodine. Individual lesions can be treated with miconazole or clotrimazole lotions.

3.75% thiabendazole in glycerine applied locally on the lesions four times at three day intervals is 86% effective. 5% Tincture of Iodine applied similarly was only 47% effective.

It is important to note that griseofulvin (Fulcin) is no longer licensed for food producing species and should NOT be used

It is good to remember that ringworm affects humans, particularly adolescents.

LostCovey

dungfly wrote: »

Has anyone used sodium hypochlorite (chlorus)or peracetic acid (serpent) to treat warts? If so what concentrations did you use?

Good question.

Also wondering if anyone has tried enriched uranium, prussic acid or strychnine?

Dose rates etc welcome.

dungfly

LostCovey wrote: »

Good question.

Also wondering if anyone has tried enriched uranium, prussic acid or strychnine?

Dose rates etc welcome.

FFS?

LostCovey

dungfly wrote: »

FFS?

Indeed.

whelan2

dungfly wrote: »

Has anyone used sodium hypochlorite (chlorus)or peracetic acid (serpent) to treat warts? If so what concentrations did you use?

how bad are the warts, they normally just fall off here or my dad pulls them off:eek:

dungfly

whelan2 wrote: »

how bad are the warts, they normally just fall off here or my dad pulls them off:eek:

Very very bad, 90% infected. Some have huge warts the size of golf balls and bigger. I plan on using lambs rings on them, vaccinate & peracetic acid.

greysides

I don't think the autogenous vaccine is available any more. (Mentioned earlier in thread)

Greengrass1

I have heard paracitic is good to cure warts. Never used ir though. 1/3 paracitic 2/3 water dip it on daily