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Urgent: Issue with TV

  • 18-07-2010 7:37pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 777 ✭✭✭


    I purchased a TV for €700, along with a table for it and a 5 year warranty, which all came to over €1000 last week. The man in Currys who sold me the TV said it was a Plasma, he also said it was a 200hz tv as well. Upon delivery, we found out the TV was an LCD. The delivery man said well LCDs are better energy-wise than Plasmas so he recommended for us to keep it. We were content although displeased that the salesman had inaccurately told us that it was a plasma, having asked him several times whether it was or not.

    Over the weekend, I noticed that for football matches, the motion picture wasn't what you'd expect for a 200hz tv. I did some research into it, and the TV is a 50 hz, and watching the Connaught final today the picture was less than satisfactory.

    I am extremely annoyed about this salesman's techniques and how he lied to us. I'm looking to get a full refund tomorrow-but will I get all my money back? He lied to us, but I'm still worried. Will we get the warranty back as well?

    Please help:(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    Impossible to prove the salesman lied and you should have done a bit of research into it anyway. No obligation to give you your money back.

    On a side note, RTE on a big lcd/plasma can look crap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    If you're with UPC, most sports in SD look poor on large sized TVs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 777 ✭✭✭Mayoegian


    gpf101 wrote: »
    Impossible to prove the salesman lied and you should have done a bit of research into it anyway. No obligation to give you your money back.

    On a side note, RTE on a big lcd/plasma can look crap.

    It was TV3.

    I got some advice and the Consumer Information Act 1978 can be applied can it not? I was with my family-four of us there-and he told us all the same thing. I had my research done, it was simply that he mislead us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 777 ✭✭✭Mayoegian


    If you're with UPC, most sports in SD look poor on large sized TVs.

    No I have sky...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    Mayoegian wrote: »
    It was TV3.

    I got some advice and the Consumer Information Act 1978 can be applied can it not? I was with my family-four of us there-and he told us all the same thing. I had my research done, it was simply that he mislead us.

    TV3 / RTE same thing. If you can prove the salesman lied you might get somewhere but there is no way you can do that.

    How could you apply the consumer information act if you can't prove he lied? It's pretty hard to believe you couldn't tell the difference between an lcd and plasma tv. Was there not a sticker with the details/price next to it? Currys staff arn't the greatest but they would at least know if the tv was lcv / led / plasma.

    Start by contacting the shop and explaining your situation, they might let you bring it back for something else but I doubt they will give you your money back.

    What tv is it?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 777 ✭✭✭Mayoegian


    gpf101 wrote: »
    TV3 / RTE same thing. If you can prove the salesman lied you might get somewhere but there is no way you can do that.

    How could you apply the consumer information act if you can't prove he lied? It's pretty hard to believe you couldn't tell the difference between an lcd and plasma tv. Was there not a sticker with the details/price next to it?

    Start by contacting the shop and explaining your situation, they might let you bring it back for something else but I doubt they will give you your money back.

    What tv is it?

    There was no sticker saying it was/was not a plasma or it was/was not an LCD. TV3 and RTE are not the same think btw.

    I think I'll seek advice from a more reliable source but thanks for your help anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    Obviosuly they are not the same station but they both broadcast in standard definition and can look poorly on a large HD TV.

    Grand job go and get your advise anywhere you like, you need plenty of it by the sounds of it. I still can't believe someone would be so out of touch that they wouldn't know what type of TV they were shelling out €700 on.

    To be honest your story about the salesman "lying" sounds like nonsense, and if it is true then he must have seen you coming. Do your homework in future and you won't get caught out again. Goodluck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 Yahooaccount


    gpf101 wrote: »
    Obviosuly they are not the same station but they both broadcast in standard definition and can look poorly on a large HD TV.

    Grand job go and get your advise anywhere you like, you need plenty of it by the sounds of it. I still can't believe someone would be so out of touch that they wouldn't know what type of TV they were shelling out €700 on.

    To be honest your story about the salesman "lying" sounds like nonsense, and if it is true then he must have seen you coming. Do your homework in future and you won't get caught out again. Goodluck.


    The OP was looking for advice, not abuse. If you can't give any constructive help then keep your opinions to yourself.

    On another note, I really don't think you should be giving advice as you clearly don't know your stuff. The salesperson has clearly mislead the above poster and family so as long as more than one person was told lies then they have a case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 777 ✭✭✭Mayoegian


    gpf101 wrote: »
    Obviosuly they are not the same station but they both broadcast in standard definition and can look poorly on a large HD TV.

    Grand job go and get your advise anywhere you like, you need plenty of it by the sounds of it. I still can't believe someone would be so out of touch that they wouldn't know what type of TV they were shelling out €700 on.

    To be honest your story about the salesman "lying" sounds like nonsense, and if it is true then he must have seen you coming. Do your homework in future and you won't get caught out again. Goodluck.


    Your responses since I opened this thread have been nothing but ignorant and unhelpful. I saw another thread where you responded and you were just as dismissive and ignorant. I don't need your 'help' anymore, because quite frankly, you haven't the first clue. You seem like a very irate person, and you should improve on that-ok?:) Thanks again.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Why do I think this was a Panasonic ??? What model number was written on the receipt ??? ....usually TXA42XXMM or similar.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 777 ✭✭✭Mayoegian


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Why do I think this was a Panasonic ??? What model number was written on the receipt ??? ....usually TXA42XXMM or similar.

    It was a TXL42U2LL. I was advised that Panasonic a had good TV range?

    Thank you for replying with a bit of manners!:)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    OK. Now was this displayed in the middle of the end wall of Currys in Galway to the left of a Panasonic LED TV by any chance ???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 777 ✭✭✭Mayoegian


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    OK. Now was this displayed in the middle of the end wall of Currys in Galway to the left of a Panasonic LED TV by any chance ???

    Yes!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Finally can I put it to you that you watched the Connacht final on TV3 and specifically using a SKY box today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 777 ✭✭✭Mayoegian


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Finally can I put it to you that you watched the Connacht final on TV3 and specifically using a SKY box today.

    Were you spying on me?:eek::p Yes, but I also had trouble watching other matches too on other channels!:)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    As soon as you admit that Sponge Bob is ****ing amazing I will advise you of the implications of your answers to my questions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 777 ✭✭✭Mayoegian


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    As soon as you admit that Sponge Bob is ****ing amazing I will advise you of the implications of your answers to my questions.

    You're incredibly 100% amazing-the tension is killing me!!:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭colly10


    Mayoegian wrote: »
    You're incredibly 100% amazing-the tension is killing me!!:p

    I'm actually looking forward to hearing this now too :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    1. I saw that telly a few weeks ago myself, hence my helpful description of its location.

    a) I thought it was a plasma, the telly to the left of it is an LG plasma which looks sh1te compared to it. It is in fact the LCD model on the receipt if you go into Currys and look at it :)
    b) I got the salesman down to €670 from €700 for my dear Ma, I eschewed the guarantee because I don't actually need it, Panasonic will cover it for 5 years or so under consumer legislation irrespective of whether they only give you a 1 year guarantee or not. You bought a worthless guarantee so try to get that back and pocket €200 you should not have spent because you were misled. I would keep the telly though :)
    c) I chose not to buy a table. Too expensive in Currys
    d) TV3 reduced their Astra bitrate last year so any sport faster than Darts on TV3 on SKY always looks absolutely crap. Their analogue picture is better. TG4 adn RTE broadcast at a much higher bitrate on Sky, especially when showing fast sport.
    e) The RTE picture is excellent on Digital especially RTE2. However if you choose Ireland when setting up it does not turn the Digital tuner on by default, you need to check the settings and turn it on and rescan for a signal.
    f) Over its lifetime it will use half the lekky of a plasma.
    g) You may fiddle with the settings, putting it in eco mode will save more lekky and I also fiddled with the settings to find a bette rpicture with some mode or other.
    h) Finally it is a 42 inch TV and should be viewed from around 4m away or it will block a tad when upscaling a standard def picture....they all do at that size :)

    But I consider the TV itself is well worth €700 or so by Irish standards.

    HTH


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 777 ✭✭✭Mayoegian


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    1. I saw that telly a few weeks ago myself, hence my helpful description of its location.

    a) I thought it was a plasma, the telly to the left of it is an LG plasma which looks sh1te compared to it. It is in fact the LCD model on the receipt if you go into Currys and look at it :)
    b) I got the salesman down to €670 from €700 for my dear Ma, I eschewed the guarantee because I don't actually need it, Panasonic will cover it for 5 years or so under consumer legislation irrespective of whether they only give you a 1 year guarantee or not. You bought a worthless guarantee so try to get that back and pocket €200 you should not have spent because you were misled. I would keep the telly though :)
    c) I chose not to buy a table. Too expensive in Currys
    d) TV3 reduced their Astra bitrate last year so any sport faster than Darts on TV3 on SKY always looks absolutely crap. Their analogue picture is better. TG4 adn RTE broadcast at a much higher bitrate on Sky, especially when showing fast sport.
    e) The RTE picture is excellent on Digital especially RTE2. However if you choose Ireland when setting up it does not turn the Digital tuner on by default, you need to check the settings and turn it on and rescan for a signal.
    f) Over its lifetime it will use half the lekky of a plasma.
    g) You may fiddle with the settings, putting it in eco mode will save more lekky and I also fiddled with the settings to find a bette rpicture with some mode or other.
    h) Finally it is a 42 inch TV and should be viewed from around 4m away or it will block a tad when upscaling a standard def picture....they all do at that size :)

    But I consider the TV itself is well worth €700 or so by Irish standards.

    HTH

    Is there such a thing as a virtual hug, because I'm sending you a huge one now!!:) Your knowledge of this TV is astounding, you have eased my mind so much, you are amazing!! Thank you soooo much!:D;)


    One tiny question, how do I get the analogue picture on TV3?:o


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Mayoegian wrote: »
    One tiny question, how do I get the analogue picture on TV3?:o

    You must tune it, I take it you have an aerial and are not 100% reliant on SKY . Then you select TV3 by pressing the program guide button on the remote when in TV mode not AV mode ( for the SKY box input)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 777 ✭✭✭Mayoegian


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    You must tune it, I take it you have an aerial and are not 100% reliant on SKY . Then you select TV3 by pressing the program guide button on the remote when in TV mode not AV mode ( for the SKY box input)

    Thank you so much:D I'm so happy!!:)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Oh and when faffing about with settings I think I permanently put it into something like Cinema mode and with some Eco settings or other and was happy with the results.

    Also ensure the SKY box output settings are 16:9 not 4:3 , in settings button on remote , picture.

    Next time ask before you buy willya, €1000 is a lot of money . Remember that while the lord giveth the Currys Terms and Conditions verily taketh away :D


    I am not waking my mam to annoy her about the precise settings.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 777 ✭✭✭Mayoegian


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Oh and when faffing about with settings I think I permanently put it into something like Cinema mode and with some Eco settings or other and was happy with the results.

    Also ensure the SKY box output settings are 16:9 not 4:3 , in settings button on remote , picture.

    Next time ask before you buy willya, €1000 is a lot of money . Remember that while the lord giveth the Currys terms and Conditions verily taketh away D


    I am not waking my mam to annoy her about the precise settings.

    Thank you for all your help-I'll tackle the TV tomorrow:p

    SPONGEBOB IS AMAZING!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    Mayoegian wrote: »
    Your responses since I opened this thread have been nothing but ignorant and unhelpful. I saw another thread where you responded and you were just as dismissive and ignorant. I don't need your 'help' anymore, because quite frankly, you haven't the first clue. You seem like a very irate person, and you should improve on that-ok?:) Thanks again.

    Ha thank you for your pointers. As for not having a clue, well I amn't the one that spent €700 on a tv and didn't even know what sort of tv it was. I actually have a bit of an interest in home cinema and know a bit about tv's but that's beside the point.

    Good luck with your new tv, if you need someone to tune in TV3 give me a shout.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    gpf101 wrote: »
    Ha thank you for your pointers. As for not having a clue, well I amn't the one that spent €700 on a tv and didn't even know what sort of tv it was.

    Actually if you read the early part of the thread carefully the OP was TOLD what it was, to wit 1 x plasma. It wasn't. Are you a Currys salesman or something ????

    When I SAW the same TV I assumed from a distance that it was a plasma too. Even close up at 5 meters it was quite hard to tell it was not.

    Unusually it completely outperformed a nearby LED Panny, maybe Panasonic haven't cracked that technology yet. Unsurprisingly it outperformed a nearby LG plasma as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Actually if you read the early part of the thread carefully the OP was TOLD what it was, to wit 1 x plasma. It wasn't. Are you a Currys salesman or something ????
    .

    While it came across as a bit sarky gpf101 does have a bit of a point about research. The OP did say "I had my research done, it was simply that he mislead us" . Surely any sort of basic research, if it was done, would have given the OP the info on the set. TBH from reading the posts, the "research" doesnt seem to go beyond believing what the salesman says, which is no sort of research at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Actually if you read the early part of the thread carefully the OP was TOLD what it was, to wit 1 x plasma. It wasn't. Are you a Currys salesman or something ????

    When I SAW the same TV I assumed from a distance that it was a plasma too. Even close up at 5 meters it was quite hard to tell it was not.

    Unusually it completely outperformed a nearby LED Panny, maybe Panasonic haven't cracked that technology yet. Unsurprisingly it outperformed a nearby LG plasma as well.

    You thought it was a plasma from 5 meters, fair enough. But did you still think it when you looked at it?

    I just can't inderstand how you could spend that much on a tv and not be sure yourself what technology it is based on. I might come across a bit sh1tty with my replies but it just doesn't sound right. Does it not say it anywhere on the box or user manual? When I got my TV (in Currys too) it had Samsung LED plastered all over the box and manual.

    I think it is amazing you could but a tv, take it home, unpack it and have a look at the manual and not have any idea it is an LCD.

    Another thing that surprises me is the fact the salesman didn't know what tv technology he was selling. I have no interest in Currys but the one thing I did notice in the two Currys stores I looked in is that the staff at least knew if the TV they were selling was LCD / Plasma. One of the main reasons I say this is because they are trained to be sure when they sell a plasma that it is either delivered or collected by a customer in a van etc.

    As I'm sure you know plasmas have to be kept upright at all times. It is extremely unlikely they would allow you to put one flat in a car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 534 ✭✭✭PaulieBoy


    gpf101 wrote: »
    You thought it was a plasma from 5 meters, fair enough. But did you still think it when you looked at it?

    I just can't inderstand how you could spend that much on a tv and not be sure yourself what technology it is based on. I might come across a bit sh1tty with my replies but it just doesn't sound right. Does it not say it anywhere on the box or user manual? When I got my TV (in Currys too) it had Samsung LED plastered all over the box and manual.

    I think it is amazing you could but a tv, take it home, unpack it and have a look at the manual and not have any idea it is an LCD.

    Another thing that surprises me is the fact the salesman didn't know what tv technology he was selling. I have no interest in Currys but the one thing I did notice in the two Currys stores I looked in is that the staff at least knew if the TV they were selling was LCD / Plasma. One of the main reasons I say this is because they are trained to be sure when they sell a plasma that it is either delivered or collected by a customer in a van etc.

    As I'm sure you know plasmas have to be kept upright at all times. It is extremely unlikely they would allow you to put one flat in a car.
    Have you actually read this thread ???
    He did NOT bring the TV home, it was delivered.
    If you actually read the thread you will see that your post is completely irrelevant.
    To the OP glad your getting some actual help, but being lied to is wrong, and you have the delivery guy who also persuaded you to take what you knew you did not buy. That would be enough for me to take a small claims court action.
    Some people here think it's fine for shops to pull the wool over your eyes and it's all "buyer beware" but that is totally wrong and any right minded person would agree.
    I would go back to Currys anyway and give them hell for treating people like idiots.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭sunnysoutheast


    PaulieBoy wrote: »
    Have you actually read this thread ???
    He did NOT bring the TV home, it was delivered.
    If you actually read the thread you will see that your post is completely irrelevant.
    To the OP glad your getting some actual help, but being lied to is wrong, and you have the delivery guy who also persuaded you to take what you knew you did not buy. That would be enough for me to take a small claims court action.
    Some people here think it's fine for shops to pull the wool over your eyes and it's all "buyer beware" but that is totally wrong and any right minded person would agree.
    I would go back to Currys anyway and give them hell for treating people like idiots.

    What would be the grounds for a small claims court action? The TV is working fine, and assuming the model delivered was the model that was ordered then Curry's have delivered on their side of the contract. The OP had the chance to reject the delivery once it was apparent that the TV wasn't a plasma rather than installing and using the TV.

    I think the OP is having issues with picture quality on SD sources, but that problem is not confined to LCD TVs and is not a fault with the TV. Also you have to be careful comparing TV pictures in a well-lit busy shop as many TVs will be set to a high-contrast high-colour settings on display.

    The extended warranty is a waste of money IMHO.

    SSE

    PS I'd have bought a Philips!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Regardless of whether or not they legally would have to offer redress, I'm pretty sure if you asked for a manager, and with the witnessing family members in tow, explained that the staff member in question sold you a set based on utter lies/total misinformation, they would work something out for you.

    As for not noticing whether the tv was plasma or LCD - hardly a criminal mistake, some people really don't know the difference and do rely on salespeople to provide them with those fundamentals - hardly an unreasonable expectation. TVs wouldn't be one of them but there are many areas in which I could make a purchase that I would be completely 100% clueless about and thus make the assumption that the staff member I'm asking in store does know.

    Honestly, a staff member not being able to distinguish between plasma and LCD in Currys is simply criminal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 777 ✭✭✭Mayoegian


    gpf101 wrote: »
    You thought it was a plasma from 5 meters, fair enough. But did you still think it when you looked at it?

    I just can't inderstand how you could spend that much on a tv and not be sure yourself what technology it is based on. I might come across a bit sh1tty with my replies but it just doesn't sound right. Does it not say it anywhere on the box or user manual? When I got my TV (in Currys too) it had Samsung LED plastered all over the box and manual.

    I think it is amazing you could but a tv, take it home, unpack it and have a look at the manual and not have any idea it is an LCD.

    Another thing that surprises me is the fact the salesman didn't know what tv technology he was selling. I have no interest in Currys but the one thing I did notice in the two Currys stores I looked in is that the staff at least knew if the TV they were selling was LCD / Plasma. One of the main reasons I say this is because they are trained to be sure when they sell a plasma that it is either delivered or collected by a customer in a van etc.

    As I'm sure you know plasmas have to be kept upright at all times. It is extremely unlikely they would allow you to put one flat in a car.


    There was absolutely no place where it said LCD or Plasma instore. Both I and 2 other members of my family asked him 'was it a plasma' and he said yes, this whole section has plasma tvs.

    I had my research done, the info looked good on the sticker but it didnt include the Hz or whether it was a plasma/lcd.

    Tbh, you need to grow up. I have been helped by Spongebob who actually READ my post and responded with superb help.

    I think it's best if you dont respond to this thread if you have nothing more constructive to say about my Opost.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 777 ✭✭✭Mayoegian


    PaulieBoy wrote: »
    Have you actually read this thread ???
    He did NOT bring the TV home, it was delivered.
    If you actually read the thread you will see that your post is completely irrelevant.
    To the OP glad your getting some actual help, but being lied to is wrong, and you have the delivery guy who also persuaded you to take what you knew you did not buy. That would be enough for me to take a small claims court action.
    Some people here think it's fine for shops to pull the wool over your eyes and it's all "buyer beware" but that is totally wrong and any right minded person would agree.
    I would go back to Currys anyway and give them hell for treating people like idiots.

    Thank you so much! Some people on this thread have real unhealthy attitudes, so thanks for actually reading my posts:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭sunnysoutheast


    Mayoegian wrote: »
    Thank you so much! Some people on this thread have real unhealthy attitudes, so thanks for actually reading my posts:)

    Just because people don't tell you what you want to hear doesn't mean they're not trying to help you. You can try the "give Curry's hell" approach if you like but I can't see you getting anywhere with a confrontational approach, more likely you'll be asked to leave.

    You have a decent model TV, perhaps changing from the default settings may give you a better picture. Many large screen TVs will suffer with fast-moving standard definition sources, my Samsung is poor with the football on RTE.

    My only issue would be that you were sold an extended warranty when, as far as I'm aware, Panasonic offer a 5 year guarantee anyway.

    Good luck with it,

    SSE


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    My god. Some people get very worked up over a tv.
    It may not be relevant but just so people know Curry's don't pay their staff commision.
    I actually read every post myself and felt that when the OP didn't like what he/she was hearing it didn't go down well imo.
    Anyway it seems to have been sorted.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 777 ✭✭✭Mayoegian


    Just because people don't tell you what you want to hear doesn't mean they're not trying to help you. You can try the "give Curry's hell" approach if you like but I can't see you getting anywhere with a confrontational approach, more likely you'll be asked to leave.

    You have a decent model TV, perhaps changing from the default settings may give you a better picture. Many large screen TVs will suffer with fast-moving standard definition sources, my Samsung is poor with the football on RTE.

    My only issue would be that you were sold an extended warranty when, as far as I'm aware, Panasonic offer a 5 year guarantee anyway.

    Good luck with it,

    SSE

    The thing is, the first person who responded wasn't helping me.

    Thanks for your help though-I appreciate it!:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    Mayoegian wrote: »
    The thing is, the first person who responded wasn't helping me.

    Thanks for your help though-I appreciate it!:)

    I think the first person gave you genuine advice but it wasn't what you wanted to hear imo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 777 ✭✭✭Mayoegian


    amiable wrote: »
    I think the first person gave you genuine advice but it wasn't what you wanted to hear imo

    She had an attitude that I didn't appreciate, and was more intent on lamblasting me than giving any constructive help.

    This thread was set up to provide me help concerning a consumer issue. It has derailed so much and gone completely off-topic.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Mayoegian wrote: »
    . It has derailed so much and gone completely off-topic.

    I suppose the general problem is that:

    1. You view the TVs in a shop with low quality UPC standard def cable feeds, in the main.
    2. There is now a huge choice of 42" between €600 and €800 both LCD and Plasma.
    3. There is a reasonable choice of 42" LED between €900 and €1200 and you need to see one against an LCD and Plasma to understand the difference.
    4. Yer average punter relies on the salesman to explain the difference. LCD has improved to the point where it is quite difficult to tell in many cases especially with the sources used in shops.
    4. The only clearly different ones are the 3D TVs. These start above €1200 and nobody should buy one unless they have performed an extended test on it, lots of people get severe headaches or queasiness with 3D so you need to make sure it works very well as a 2D TV too. I think the 3D fad will be over by the end of next year myself.

    Given that Irish Digital TV is coming up for launch in October ( I have had the tests running for over a year) one should ensure that the TV will work with it.

    Lots of TVs for sale here that are dumped over from the UK, particularly via Argos Tesco Lidl and Aldi cannot work with Digital TV in Ireland.

    Currys are not as bad as that lot but they do sell TVs that will not work with Digital in Ireland. Be warned !!!

    Now is not the time to buy the wrong TV
    because if you do the tuner will stop working at the end of 2012 and you will need a new tuner unit. There is a long thread HERE on Boards where you should check the model number...every letter and number of it.... for compliance before you buy it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    Mayoegian wrote: »
    She had an attitude that I didn't appreciate, and was more intent on lamblasting me than giving any constructive help.

    This thread was set up to provide me help concerning a consumer issue. It has derailed so much and gone completely off-topic.

    Fair enough. Have it your way but thats several people you've not listened to. I see a trend


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 Yahooaccount


    amiable wrote: »
    Fair enough. Have it your way but thats several people you've not listened to. I see a trend

    The only trend I see is that several people such as you are not offering proper advice and are only here to create trouble for the OP, while most posters here are here to help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭amiable


    The only trend I see is that several people such as you are not offering proper advice and are only here to create trouble for the OP, while most posters here are here to help.
    And when people did try and help and it wasn't what OP wanted to hear it wan't appreciated.
    Sometimes imo people want to be told you are entitled to a full refund and you were wronged. And if someone disagrees with them they don't like it and declare it unhelpful. Sometimes the truth is not what people want to hear. I'm still amazed someone forked out on a guarantee like that.
    It is allowed to express my opinion?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭irishgrover


    just a couple of comments, that may or may not add to discussion...


    1.) I've found the staff at Currys Galway to be extremely lacking in anything but very basic knowledge regarding TV's..
    Was in there a few months ago and asked about freeview/Mpeg4 support and I may as well have been asking about 16th century Polish Romantic poetry

    2.) Not at all sure - but if the extended warranty is a financial agreement, is it covered by a cooling off period - ie, there is a possibility that you can get out of it

    3.) Sponge Bob does indeed appear to be an all knowing deity !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,630 ✭✭✭The Recliner


    There is also a Curry's Talk to forum on Boards
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1333

    Just something to note for future reference maybe, you can talk to them direct yourself


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 louisolouis


    when he called it a plasma when it was actually a LCD- it is misrepresentation of fact.

    it would be like describing a cars seats as leather when they are cloth.
    just blatantly false.

    it is a contract law term and a relevant point to be raised if discussing the issue with the shop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    The OP was looking for advice, not abuse. If you can't give any constructive help then keep your opinions to yourself.

    On another note, I really don't think you should be giving advice as you clearly don't know your stuff. The salesperson has clearly mislead the above poster and family so as long as more than one person was told lies then they have a case.

    Yahooaccount - please leave the moderating of the forum to the moderators.

    dudara


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 Yahooaccount


    amiable wrote: »
    And when people did try and help and it wasn't what OP wanted to hear it wan't appreciated.
    Sometimes imo people want to be told you are entitled to a full refund and you were wronged. And if someone disagrees with them they don't like it and declare it unhelpful. Sometimes the truth is not what people want to hear. I'm still amazed someone forked out on a guarantee like that.
    It is allowed to express my opinion?

    The first poster to this thread answered in a pompous fashion, and having taken the liberty of checking over their previous posts, it seems they use that attitude in their daily lives also. The fact that you are sticking up for this person suggests you share a similar attitude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭sunnysoutheast


    Several people have tried to help the OP, and the only issue here is that the sales person in Curry's allegedly informed the buyer that a particular model TV was a plasma, when in fact it is an LCD. Whether by deliberate act or not, we'll never know, and the most basic of research on the internet would have revealed the error and the full spec. of the TV. The OP then had the chance to reject the TV on delivery, but chose to accept, open and use the TV. Subsequently a potential issue with SD sport sources was identified, and I and others have tried to point out that this is a common issue across large screen TVs - plasma, LCD, LED from all manufacturers - with some dealing with it better than others - and that changing from the default picture settings may help. The OP has a reasonable TV at a reasonable price, but I would say they were possibly sold an unnecessary extended warranty and should take this up with Curry's.

    SSE


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 777 ✭✭✭Mayoegian


    The only pomposity here is you acting like the mod you aren't. Please give it a rest.

    Several people have tried to help the OP, and the only issue here is that the sales person in Curry's allegedly informed the buyer that a particular model TV was a plasma, when in fact it is an LCD. Whether by deliberate act or not, we'll never know, and the most basic of research on the internet would have revealed the error and the full spec. of the TV. The OP then had the chance to reject the TV on delivery, but chose to accept, open and use the TV. Subsequently a potential issue with SD sport sources was identified, and I and others have tried to point out that this is a common issue across large screen TVs - plasma, LCD, LED from all manufacturers - with some dealing with it better than others - and that changing from the default picture settings may help. The OP has a reasonable TV at a reasonable price, but I would say they were possibly sold an unnecessary extended warranty and should take this up with Curry's.

    SSE

    Hold on, I was told it was a 200hz TV. Seriously did you actually bother readin my post?

    There are some serious hot-heads on here, and people who jump in the deep end when not bothering to read my posts-absolutely crazy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭sunnysoutheast


    Mayoegian wrote: »
    Hold on, I was told it was a 200hz TV. Seriously did you actually bother readin my post?

    There are some serious hot-heads on here, and people who jump in the deep end when not bothering to read my posts-absolutely crazy.

    Yes of course I have read your posts - was anything written down or was it all verbal? If the latter then you're going to find it very difficult to prove anything - especially in court, which is what some people on here have been talking about.

    I'm honestly trying to help you but I research these things exhaustively, check model numbers, read reviews etc. before handing over anything, plus I check the delivery and don't accept it if it's wrong or damaged. I also ignore anything said by salespeople in shops. From the seller's point of view they sold you a Panasonic xxxx, delivered a Panasonic xxxx and you've opened and used a Panasonic xxxx. That's all.

    SSE


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