VID: John Gibbons @ Tiesto, Kaleidoscope, Belfast

Club Educate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpJGC6ynQaE

IrishOlly

I dont know which is funnier:

1.This guys ego, when he hasn't reallydone anything worth mentioning.
2.Playing in a t-shirt with your own name on the back
or
3.The part where he says David Guetta has managed to maintain underground credibility.

Highly amusing little video.

Club Educate

Glad you enjoyed it so much Oliver. Full length DVD and signed t-shirt on the way to you in the post.

eeloe

IrishOlly wrote: »

I dont know which is funnier:

1.This guys ego, when he hasn't reallydone anything worth mentioning.
2.Playing in a t-shirt with your own name on the back
or
3.The part where he says David Guetta has managed to maintain underground credibility.

Highly amusing little video.

1. just cus you're not in to trance doesn't mean the work Gibbons has done over the years is worthless.

2. plenty of other DJ's do it....don't really see a bit deal about that to be honest?

3. If it wasn't for Guetta, there would be no "stepping stone" as such for people to move on to other genre's of dance music!

jtsuited

eeloe wrote: »

1. just cus you're not in to trance doesn't mean the work Gibbons has done over the years is worthless.

2. plenty of other DJ's do it....don't really see a bit deal about that to be honest?

3. If it wasn't for Guetta, there would be no "stepping stone" as such for people to move on to other genre's of dance music!

1. Can't produce his own stuff, his collaborations are horrific even by trance standards. Hasn't had any actual success with his releases, unlike O Callaghan, who while rubbish seems to have some sort of talent/skill.

2. It's clearly putting the cart before the horse. He may as well just go on reality tv. He clearly wants to be famous for the sake of it.

3. Nobody can argue that Guetta's music is needed. Deadmau5 as a gateway yeah, but Guetta not a chance.

Club Educate

Your timing is spectacular Jeff - check your Soundcloud mail.

For the record, I do produce my own music and I could point you towards a UK No.1 dance chart position and No.22 in the Irish commercial charts but why let reality get in the way of a good dig at someone?

It's fine if you don't like what I do - everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Anyway, good luck with your own tracks, career, etc. You're doing some nice stuff.

jtsuited

Club Educate wrote: »

For the record, I do produce my own music and I could point you towards a UK No.1 dance chart position and No.22 in the Irish commercial charts but why let reality get in the way of a good dig at someone?

John, you deserve a good dig everytime you put something like this up on the internet. Which is quite often.

Club Educate

Great reply. Good lad.

jtsuited

Club Educate wrote: »

Great reply. Good lad.

John, you want to have at it???

eeloe

jtsuited wrote: »

2. It's clearly putting the cart before the horse. He may as well just go on reality tv. He clearly wants to be famous for the sake of it.

Oh if only you knew the reality of it, I've known john for about 10 years, long before he had the name he has now, and to be honest, for the work he's put in to music and the irish scene he deserves some recognition!

And for music that's "horrific even by trance standards" he seems to be doing pretty well for himself.

His DJ roster for the past 6 months looks pretty full....
http://www.djjohngibbons.com/dates.html

while it may not be your cup of tea, Jeff, he's still put silly ammounts of effort in to what he has done over the years.

Also, slating someone in a roundabout way, while being interviewed on nation radio, not really a great move to be doing.

TechnoFreek

Club Educate wrote: »

UK No.1 dance chart position and No.22 in the Irish commercial charts

I'm just curious, this isn't a dig - What were the names of those tracks?

jtsuited

eeloe wrote: »

Also, slating someone in a roundabout way, while being interviewed on nation radio, not really a great move to be doing.

it was in relation to something I was asked about.

seannash

eeloe wrote: »

Also, slating someone in a roundabout way, while being interviewed on nation radio, not really a great move to be doing.

not going to say much but why should people not make there real feelings known.


not a great move why?because he might offend people who can further his career.

i think thats the point jeff is trying to make.if your talented enough alot of this overhyping isnt necessary.

not claiming that anyone in particular is doing this but if your trying to pass off other peoples productions as your own they should definitely be called out.

SteveDon

Pretty funny thread here.

What exactly was said on nation radio that caused such a stir?

Im not going to have a go at you John cause im completely unaware of your productions as im not in to trance but i must ask, can you explain why exactly you think that David Guetta has retained his underground status? I really find it hard to believe that you would really think that?

jtsuited

not much was said. i was talking about why i like myspace, and went off on a tangent about people inflating their online presence with sunglass endorsements and press shots of shapes being made with hands. Don't know why there's an issue being made about it tbh.

eeloe

seannash wrote: »

not claiming that anyone in particular is doing this but if your trying to pass off other peoples productions as your own they should definitely be called out.

Trust me, Gibbons isn't doing this....

brianc27

that david guetta comment is the stupidest things ive ever heard anyone associated with electronic music say, guetta would probably punch you in the face is you said to him his music was underground, hes the furthest thing from underground dance music you can get.

the vid itself is incredibly cringe worthy to anyone over the age of 21, but sure hes seen the niche in the 15-21 year old market and seems to be doin well out of it, all about the money of course.

the vids getting rave reviews over on EMI

http://www.emireland.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5125

technobob

John are you purposefully trying to emulate Rhys Ifans character from its all gone a bit Pete Tong?

g5fd6ow0hseima

DJ Ikarus II

jtsuited

technobob wrote: »

John are you purposefully trying to emulate Rhys Ifans character from its all gone a bit Pete Tong?

Paul Kaye no?

Was it Rhys Ifans in kev n perry as eyeball paul?

Kenny DNK

John Gibbons



Eyeball Paul

Zascar

Hahahhahaahah brilliant....

Funky G

Hi all,

First in foremost kudos to John for getting the chance to support Tiesto at a gig.

Which one of you's would have liked that opportunity to do that? Supporting arguably the most popular DJ in the world?!?!

So what if he wears a t-shirt to promote himself....would you have done the same? It's all about getting your name out there...and its very hard to tell people your name in a crowd of 100's or 1000's and it being a bit noisy...in essence, it's tough to get your name out there at all!

I met John briefly many moons ago on pirate radio but i had a feeling that he would go on to do good things. looking at his style, his music, his presentation and going out to promote himself on the road.

Remember, this was an irish jock supporting a big name on the irish leg of his tour. would we be up in arms if Tiesto brought some other foreign jock to warm up for him?

Oh yeah, John does have a dose of the Eye Ball Paul's about his looks!!!

BaZmO*

Funky G wrote: »

Hi all,

First in foremost kudos to John for getting the chance to support Tiesto at a gig.

Which one of you's would have liked that opportunity to do that?

Possibly none, that's why he's getting slated.

Funky G wrote: »

So what if he wears a t-shirt to promote himself....would you have done the same?

More than likely not, that's why he's getting slated.

Funky G wrote: »

Remember, this was an irish jock supporting a big name on the irish leg of his tour. would we be up in arms if Tiesto brought some other foreign jock to warm up for him?

I would imagine that he'd be getting just as much stick if was acting in the same way.

Funky G

BaZmO* wrote: »

Possibly none, that's why he's getting slated.



More than likely not, that's why he's getting slated.



I would imagine that he'd be getting just as much stick if was acting in the same way.

Hi bazmo,

you mean to tell me that hes is getting slated for supporting tiesto, wearing a t shirt that says his name on it and hes acting differently to it?

typical irish mentality. someone wants to promote himself and all the begrudgers come out.....

You never even answered my questions -

1 - what would you have done to play warm up or support to tiesto, or whatever big name dj out there?

2 - how would you promote yourself?

i was at the faithless gig a few weeks back and they had a warm up jock before the band came on. he was really good. i don't know who he was. maybe of he had a t shirt on him with his name and or a website associated with him, that would solve that.

3 - how would you act differently?

i don't see that John has acted in any way to offend or annoy anyone. It's a video blog ffs. not that many people can say they supported tiesto on a club night. its good to see someone in the times we live in make his own name in the world.

we can all rate or slate someone. constructive criticism we can all accept but accusations of robbing other peoples music is below the belt. if you look at the video again, he was giving a talk at a dj academy on those who inspire to become dj's. nice touch.

was anyone on this thread actually at the gig or knows someone who was at it so we can get viewpoint on John's set on the night?

BaZmO*

Funky G wrote: »

you mean to tell me that hes is getting slated for supporting tiesto, wearing a t shirt that says his name on it and hes acting differently to it?

It would seem so, but it’s not me that’s slating him.

Funky G wrote: »

typical irish mentality. someone wants to promote himself and all the begrudgers come out.....

Possible begrudgery, or possible well deserved p1sstaking.

Funky G wrote: »

1 - what would you have done to play warm up or support to tiesto, or whatever big name dj out there?

I never slated him so there’s no point in asking me. Having said that though, I don’t think I’d be that up for supporting Tiesto as he doesn’t play the type of stuff I’m into.

Funky G wrote: »

2 - how would you promote yourself?

i was at the faithless gig a few weeks back and they had a warm up jock before the band came on. he was really good. i don't know who he was. maybe of he had a t shirt on him with his name and or a website associated with him, that would solve that.

I don’t have to, so I’ve never thought about it. But if I did have to, I’d like to think I’d come up with something less cheesy.

Funky G wrote: »

3 - how would you act differently?

See answer above.

Funky G wrote: »

i don't see that John has acted in any way to offend or annoy anyone. It's a video blog ffs. not that many people can say they supported tiesto on a club night. its good to see someone in the times we live in make his own name in the world.

See, you keep mentioning Tiesto. Maybe that’s the answer to your question right there.

Funky G wrote: »

if you look at the video again, he was giving a talk at a dj academy on those who inspire to become dj's. nice touch.

:rolleyes: Again, the answers seem to be in your own questions.

Funky G wrote: »

was anyone on this thread actually at the gig or knows someone who was at it so we can get viewpoint on John's set on the night?

I think anybody that was is in the middle of doing their Junior Cert exams.

seannash

Funky G wrote: »

Hi bazmo,

you mean to tell me that hes is getting slated for supporting tiesto, wearing a t shirt that says his name on it and hes acting differently to it?

typical irish mentality. someone wants to promote himself and all the begrudgers come out.....

You never even answered my questions -

1 - what would you have done to play warm up or support to tiesto, or whatever big name dj out there?

2 - how would you promote yourself?

i was at the faithless gig a few weeks back and they had a warm up jock before the band came on. he was really good. i don't know who he was. maybe of he had a t shirt on him with his name and or a website associated with him, that would solve that.

3 - how would you act differently?

i don't see that John has acted in any way to offend or annoy anyone. It's a video blog ffs. not that many people can say they supported tiesto on a club night. its good to see someone in the times we live in make his own name in the world.

we can all rate or slate someone. constructive criticism we can all accept but accusations of robbing other peoples music is below the belt. if you look at the video again, he was giving a talk at a dj academy on those who inspire to become dj's. nice touch.

was anyone on this thread actually at the gig or knows someone who was at it so we can get viewpoint on John's set on the night?

funky g ill save you alot of time.

99.9% of people on this boards detest trance,hate tiesto and also hate people who try hard to self promote.

by the way you seriously dont think he did the dj academy talk for free.his "nice touch" was probably nicely paid(nothing wrong with that but dont use it as some sort of charitable act on his behalf)

there are a few people on here who are doing great things in music but dont shout about it.this is the best way to promote by just letting your music do the talking.

also the guetta comment wouldnt have won many people over as its simply false

Funky G

Hi all,

Good debate here,

bazmo - you never did answer my questions,

in essence, if tiesto is not your cup of tea, what would you have done to get yourself a slot alongside a dj, (big name or not) that plays the type of music you are in to?

as for promoting your self, each to there own. you have your way, i have mine, john has his. we all want to do well in this industry so don't diss on a person for the road he or she takes get there. cheesy or not - it works. its a different ball game now from when i started a long time ago....

as for your junior cert remark - now that is childish. music is for everybody, not just a certain age group.

seannash - did you do a poll to come up with your findings?

isn't one of the reasons of having sites like boards is to get known, promote a club night, promote a track or encourage people to get together? and how do you get the music out there? no harm in telling people about. or is it a big secret....

as for his dj academy things - if john is reading this:

Did you get paid for your dj academy stint?

As for the Guetta remark, the jury is still out for me......

Regards,

G.

seannash

Funky G wrote: »

Hi all,



seannash - did you do a poll to come up with your findings?

isn't one of the reasons of having sites like boards is to get known, promote a club night, promote a track or encourage people to get together? and how do you get the music out there? no harm in telling people about. or is it a big secret....

as for his dj academy things - if john is reading this:

Did you get paid for your dj academy stint?

As for the Guetta remark, the jury is still out for me......

Regards,

G.

no i didnt do a poll but with over 2k posts ive been around here long enough to know what most of the posters like and trance isnt what they like

as for promotions,yes this is a section to promote upcoming nights not to put a video up of yourself preparing for a gig.
its just put up for an ego boost imo,a bit of a look at me thing

as for your opinion being out on david guetta your just as afraid of offending people who may help your dj career as he is.

grow a pair and admit that guetta is as commercial as they come

Funky G

seannash wrote: »

no i didnt do a poll but with over 2k posts ive been around here long enough to know what most of the posters like and trance isnt what they like

as for promotions,yes this is a section to promote upcoming nights not to put a video up of yourself preparing for a gig.
its just put up for an ego boost imo,a bit of a look at me thing

as for your opinion being out on david guetta your just as afraid of offending people who may help your dj career as he is.

grow a pair and admit that guetta is as commercial as they come

so you have over 2000 posts and that makes you an expert?

If trance is not what the people like - as you may say - then why not get the mods to ban its discussion? or even make the T word a curse?

as for offending people, i'm not here to offend anyone, just to offer an opinion, hence that is why we are on this site.

As for your guetta remark, i think you spilt your milk....

seannash

Funky G wrote: »

so you have over 2000 posts and that makes you an expert?

If trance is not what the people like - as you may say - then why not get the mods to ban its discussion? or even make the T word a curse?

as for offending people, i'm not here to offend anyone, just to offer an opinion, hence that is why we are on this site.

As for your guetta remark, i think you spilt your milk....

oh god.no it doesnt make me an exepert but i know what the majority of posters on here like when it comes to music because we've been discussing music on this forum http://boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=126

its not about banning it its just doesnt really get discussed that much and when it does get brought up most people say there not fans of it


me saying your trying not to offend anyone is down to you sitting on the fence about the guetta comment

as for spilt milk,its fairly ovbious you havent been around here too long.

tis fairly tame this stuff

Funky G

seannash wrote: »

oh god.no it doesnt make me an exepert but i know what the majority of posters on here like when it comes to music because we've been discussing music on this forum http://boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=126

its not about banning it its just doesnt really get discussed that much and when it does get brought up most people say there not fans of it


me saying your trying not to offend anyone is down to you sitting on the fence about the guetta comment

as for spilt milk,its fairly ovbious you havent been around here too long.

tis fairly tame this stuff

Hi seannash,

people arent gonna come onto any forum when to talk about something and immediately get lashed out of it. So if someone says that, for example, i like trance, what would you say to them? would you go and tell them to go fxxk off?

i respect all types of music. im open minded. i'll give it a chance. i think you should to. its one of the many functions that club music and dj-ing is about.

Who knows, you might like a song in the future, and that person says to you its trance, what would you do?

as you can see by my amount of posts and when i joined, yeah i'm new to this site.

but i have been dj-ing for a very very long time.

and yes i have been reading the various forums within the dj-ing section and yes its good to hear peoples input.

as for the guetta thing - some of the remixes i get have the the ususal radio extended for the "commercial" clubs but his other remixes of his own stuff, to me are completely different songs, more suited to the different environment.

Regards,

G

Fintomiginto

Scarlet for your ma

seannash

people arent gonna come onto any forum when to talk about something and immediately get lashed out of it. So if someone says that, for example, i like trance, what would you say to them? would you go and tell them to go fxxk off?

no i dont be that harsh but ill tell people what i told you,people that post regularly on here dont really like trance.did i tell you to **** off?

i respect all types of music. im open minded. i'll give it a chance. i think you should to. its one of the many functions that club music and dj-ing is about.

please dont preach to me what dj'ing is about:)

Who knows, you might like a song in the future, and that person says to you its trance, what would you do?

id punch that person :rolleyes:
think i can spot a trance song

but i have been dj-ing for a very very long time.

kudos,me too.whats the point

as for the guetta thing - some of the remixes i get have the the ususal radio extended for the "commercial" clubs but his other remixes of his own stuff, to me are completely different songs, more suited to the different environment.

probably best if you dont look at the deadmau5 threads either so:)

Funky G

seannash wrote: »

no i dont be that harsh but ill tell people what i told you,people that post regularly on here dont really like trance.did i tell you to **** off?



please dont preach to me what dj'ing is about:)



id punch that person :rolleyes:
think i can spot a trance song




kudos,me too.whats the point





probably best if you dont look at the deadmau5 threads either so:)

Hi seannash

no you didnt tell me to fxxk off but you missed my point entirely. what i said was from a hypothetical point. what if......thats all. people arent gonna come onto this site or any other one to talk about trance when you and others arent gonna welcome it...

and what i said about music is a fundamental part of dj-ing and clubbing culture.

as for music what you like dislike etc, "trance-spotting".....never judge a book by its cover.....

having 2000 posts is one thing, but i hope you back it up with years of experience from inside and outside the dj box, week in, week out.

deadmau5 - to me, kinda like the guetta point. one version for some, ones version for others.....

seannash

Hi seannash

Hello

what if......thats all. people arent gonna come onto this site or any other one to talk about trance when you and others arent gonna welcome it...

well seeing as how most people dont listen to trance the thread will either be very short or else someone will do like i said and tell them

and what i said about music is a fundamental part of dj-ing and clubbing culture.

again no need to preach to me dude:cool:

as for music what you like dislike etc, "trance-spotting".....never judge a book by its cover.....

just a little fyi,i started as a trance dj and grew to not like it,ive moved on from it

having 2000 posts is one thing, but i hope you back it up with years of experience from inside and outside the dj box, week in, week out.

yes i really really really can back it up but i dont like to shove it in peoples faces when im trying to make a point because it doesnt make my point any more valid
my 2000 posts reference was in response to how well i could gauge the tastes of the regulars on this board but as for djing i think ive enough relevent experience:cool:

id also like to say youve killed this thread,this could have been epic .

jtsuited

yeah this thread sucks now.

There is absolutely no point to that video apart from John Gibbons wanting to be associated with Tiesto. That's how he works. Rather than make music that gets him fans, he just promotes promotes promotes.
He may as well just say 'LOOK AT ME, I"M A BIG DEAL, I HAVE A TWICE WEEKLY RADIO SHOW, AND PLAYED BEFORE TIESTO. That's who you're dealing with here.'

Zascar

Funky G

seannash wrote: »

Hello


well seeing as how most people dont listen to trance the thread will either be very short or else someone will do like i said and tell them



again no need to preach to me dude:cool:



just a little fyi,i started as a trance dj and grew to not like it,ive moved on from it



yes i really really really can back it up but i dont like to shove it in peoples faces when im trying to make a point because it doesnt make my point any more valid
my 2000 posts reference was in response to how well i could gauge the tastes of the regulars on this board but as for djing i think ive enough relevent experience:cool:

id also like to say youve killed this thread,this could have been epic .

So i have killed this tread?

How?

is it because im saying fairplay to someone who is using every means out there - boards, facebook, myspace, radio etc to get promoted and to do well for himself?

Or was this thread just a springboard for everyone to gang up on someone to say on what they are doing is too cheesy and rip the piss out off?

again, i don't see anything wrong with someone promoting themselves. Can the board recommend any less cheesy or credible methods?

open to criticism - yes

open to banter - yes

open to debate - hell yeah!

IrishOlly

Its strange how this thread has progressed. I don't really see any point to it now. If people cant see the wood from the trees then they never will.

I think the fact that most people can see a gimmicky, blonde, sunglasses wearing man who appeals to the 18/19 year old kids in the crowd who still think Traffic and Flight 583???? are the best pieces of electronic music ever made shows exactly what we're dealing with here.

John fair play to you if you can sleep at night soundly knowing the way in which you promote yourself is cringe worthy and the music you play is god awful.
As much as trance used to be relevant in 1999 I think as a genre the people who play and produce it have done nothing to forawrd it. Thats what annoys me about trance. At least with techno its been hard, its been minimal, dubby etc etc. Trance as a genre is just plain shiit and it speaks volume for the quality that a best of would comprise of 98% of music pre 2000.

John talked of his credentials as a producer. I can say i've listened to some of it as a research for this and most of it is generic and flat. If you're going to post a video like that then have the tracks to back it up. No doubt you've got the neck for it since you've been in the game a long time.

My advice to you would be to seriously up your game and look at the top Irish producers around at the moment like Donnacha Costelloe, Matador, Psycatron & Hypertic etc and see that they rely more on good production to promote themselves rather than videos playing to lowest common denominator listening kids.

That is all

Táck

seannash wrote: »

funky g ill save you alot of time.

99.9% of people on this boards detest trance,hate tiesto and also hate people who try wet'n'hard to self promote.

that's better

VinylJunkie

Anyone with the slightest interest in electronic music knows the crap Tiesto, Gibbons, Guetta et al are churning out is complete bollox. I guarantee even the true dedicated Trance fans don't like Tiesto.

What I will say, the aforementioned folk know there is a lot of money to be made from bridging the gaps between Pop, Rn'B and Trance therefore they can make a tidy living mopping up the funds of the average Joe Soap.

None of what I've said is original, I'm sure the artists involved would agree to a certain extent.

Android 666

What's Wet n' Hard all about anyway. Is it trying to describe what a cock feels like in your mouth?

Fintomiginto

Android 666 wrote: »

What's Wet n' Hard all about anyway. Is it trying to describe what a cock feels like in your mouth?

meh