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Where did we come from?

  • 18-07-2010 5:37pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭WIZE


    I was watching the Documentry on The Discovery Channel and they said life most likey started from minerals on an asteroid which crashed into Earth

    Religous people will say Adam and Eve

    So how did life end up on earth

    That is the Question


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,814 ✭✭✭TPD


    I know the answer definitively but have decided to keep it quiet. For the craic.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    A combination of abiogenesis and evolution.


    Alternately, your ma.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    As a rational thinker, I know it was not God.







    It was the Stork.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭Ricardo G


    Its all a VERY BAD DREAM !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭jd83


    Im sure the guys over on the conspiracy theories forum know the answer to this


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭WIZE


    A combination of abiogenesis and evolution.


    Alternately, your ma.

    WIKI

    I dont speak science

    I have to click on every blue word to find out what it means which leads to more Blue Words :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    42?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭plein de force


    evolution, that's how

    or maybe some supernatural being of which there is no evidence of made up by man put us here

    yeah i think i'll go with evolution


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭WIZE


    evolution, that's how

    or maybe some supernatural being of which there is no evidence of made up by man put us here

    yeah i think i'll go with evolution

    Did we evolve from a rock ?

    I mean how did anything alive get here including Trees plants bacteria and stuff


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭StormWarrior


    Let's write our own version of how life started. I'll begin:

    The Flying Spaghetti monster was flying through space. When he passed over the earth, his period started. It splodged onto the earth.....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    How did whatever evolved form in the first place?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    evolution, that's how

    or maybe some supernatural being of which there is no evidence of made up by man put us here

    yeah i think i'll go with evolution

    Evolution is where life comes from? Way to show how much smarter you are than those nutty religious folks, you have an excellent grasp on science.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    From some birds box


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭token56


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    How did whatever evolved form in the first place?

    Without a time machine it would be impossible to know this, all we can do is theorize or alternatively say a magical man in the sky did it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    token56 wrote: »
    Without a time machine it would be impossible to know this, all we can do is theorize or alternatively say a magical man in the sky did it.
    So is a higher being not a good theory?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    WIZE wrote: »
    So how did like end up on earth

    That is the Question

    its a simple answer, we all came in a spaceship built by Xenu


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭Antamojo




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 977 ✭✭✭Abrasax


    This video explains everything in some detail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭plein de force


    Evolution is where life comes from? Way to show how much smarter you are than those nutty religious folks, you have an excellent grasp on science.

    I never claimed to have a grasp on science at all

    it's just that's what there is evidence of therefore i believe that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    Caprica.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,075 ✭✭✭Pacing Mule


    WIZE wrote: »
    Where did we come from

    This may be one of the only times it is actually appropriate to yell Yore Ma ! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    I never claimed to have a grasp on science at all

    it's just that's what there is evidence of therefore i believe that
    You mean thats what someone told you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,230 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    jd83 wrote: »
    Im sure the guys over on the conspiracy theories forum know at least 3000 different answers to this

    fixed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    WIZE wrote: »
    WIKI

    I dont speak science

    I have to click on every blue word to find out what it means which leads to more Blue Words :confused:


    Opportunity to educate yourself. Take a few minutes to understand something about your world. Alternatively you can go look at pictures of cats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭token56


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    So is a higher being not a good theory?

    Depends on what you define as higher being and as good. Is this higher being super natural or natural? It's a valid theory as no one can say for certain that didn't happen because we cant prove it didn't happen. No one will be able to ever prove what "started life". We can come up with theory's and maybe even possibly demonstrated them some day, for example create life in a lab in accordance to some hypothesis, however there will always be questions and no definitive answer.

    So is it a good theory? Well any theory is possible but I wouldn't call it a logical one if it involves a super natural being, but that's just my opinion.

    Do you think it's a good one?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭karlog


    token56 wrote: »
    Depends on what you define as higher being and as good. Is this higher being super natural or natural? It's a valid theory as no one can say for certain that didn't happen because we cant prove it didn't happen. No one will be able to ever prove what "started life". We can come up with theory's and maybe even possibly demonstrated them some day, for example create life in a lab in accordance to some hypothesis, however there will always be questions and no definitive answer.

    So is it a good theory? Well any theory is possible but I wouldn't call it a logical one if it involves a super natural being, but that's just my opinion.

    Do you think it's a good one?

    Better than the atheist one IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    We came from the same place as everything else we see in the universe came from. Our bits are just assembled differently


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭WIZE


    I dont want you people burning too many Brain Cells over this issue . I just want your simple Ideas


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    token56 wrote: »
    Depends on what you define as higher being and as good. Is this higher being super natural or natural? It's a valid theory as no one can say for certain that didn't happen because we cant prove it didn't happen. No one will be able to ever prove what "started life". We can come up with theory's and maybe even possibly demonstrated them some day, for example create life in a lab in accordance to some hypothesis, however there will always be questions and no definitive answer.

    So is it a good theory? Well any theory is possible but I wouldn't call it a logical one if it involves a super natural being, but that's just my opinion.

    Do you think it's a good one?
    Well its the one I believe personally.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭WIZE


    We came from the same place as everything else we see in the universe came from. Our bits are just assembled differently

    yeah but should life not exsist on other planets in our Solar System then and assemble differently to suit other planets?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    jd83 wrote: »
    Im sure the guys over on the conspiracy theories forum know the answer to this

    Well they may have a theory on it, which is more than you offered

    What is it lately with people referring to the CT forum? Is this the best you can come up with, really?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    When meteorites crashed into not so dead Mars, it blew people all the way to earth. Thus humans on earth.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Nancy Many Fork


    The problem with the "higher being" hypothesis is that it doesn't explain anything. There's no further predictions you can make from such a model, it doesn't give any new info, etc. Whereas if there are genuine scientific theories, they will be testable and so on.
    Saying "I don't know so it must be...", well, refer to my sig for that ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭WIZE


    R_H_C_P wrote: »
    When meteorites crashed into not so dead Mars, it blew people all the way to earth. Thus humans on earth.


    Id say that was some craic.

    One minute on Mars then Next thing you know your on earth


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 343 ✭✭Sparticle


    I never claimed to have a grasp on science at all

    it's just that's what there is evidence of therefore i believe that

    I don't think you understand what evolution means. It's the process that leads to the diversification of organisms on earth through natural selection, gene drift ecetera. It is not a theory on the origin of life.

    IMO life prob started by the chance formation of R.N.A or something along those lines near high energy thermal vents.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭token56


    karlog wrote: »
    Better than the atheist one IMO.
    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Well its the one I believe personally.

    Fair enough, my own motto is each to their own really.

    I personally think each person is natural disposed to either believe or not believe in a god, with you're environment and upbringing obviously having an influence. I mean I think some people just naturally cant or dont want to believe in a god, and that opposite is true, and another group in the middle somewhere.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 343 ✭✭Sparticle


    What is it lately with people referring to the CT forum?

    A combination of morbid fancination and schadenfreude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Sea Sharp


    Life is a big elaborate cause and effect chain reaction that has its foundations with simple chemical reactions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    But where did those chemicals come from?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭token56


    If people are interested in one side they should check Stephen Hawkings lastest series, in particular this episode.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8fI8wdvteU

    its the first of 9 parts just to warn, so its pretty long. But even if you dont agree with it, its pretty interesting


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Sea Sharp


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    But where did those chemicals come from?

    The Chemical Brothers obviously. :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 164 ✭✭yogy


    Darwin, Dawkins et al have proven, beyond reasonable doubt and with concrete evidence, the whole God creating earth thing to be a load of bollix..

    Evolution has been proven, creationism is just some fairytale dreamt up by organised religious groups to explain what could not be explained many years ago!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    yogy wrote: »
    Darwin, Dawkins et al have proven, beyond reasonable doubt and with concrete evidence, the whole God creating earth thing to be a load of bollix..

    Evolution has been proven, creationism is just some fairytale dreamt up by organised religious groups to explain what could not be explained many years ago!
    So what did we evolve from?


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Gamma Ray Burst, exploding stars etc.

    DeV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    WIZE wrote: »
    yeah but should life not exsist on other planets in our Solar System then and assemble differently to suit other planets?

    Well, earth is nicely placed in the so-called 'habitable zone' in the solar system although there is still theories that suggest microbial life could have existed on Mars.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Origin of Life: Shit happens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭token56


    yogy wrote: »
    Darwin, Dawkins et al have proven, beyond reasonable doubt and with concrete evidence, the whole God creating earth thing to be a load of bollix..

    Evolution has been proven, creationism is just some fairytale dreamt up by organised religious groups to explain what could not be explained many years ago!

    Just to point out, evolution or so called micro evolution is an observable effect in biology, its a process that happens, there can be no doubt about that. However the theory of evolution or macro evolution, i.e. Darwin's theory etc has not been proven. If it had why would it still be called a theory? For most people the majority of the evidence points to it being correct I agree. However its incorrect to say its been proven.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 343 ✭✭Sparticle


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    But where did those chemicals come from?

    Stars fusing heavier elemensts which are then released in a supernova which then condenses to form a solar system. The elements react to form chemicals. High energy areas on earth increase odds of complex organic molecules forming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    Evolution is a fact. The way we think it happened (via natural selection) is indeed, in the strictest scientific sense, a theory.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Nancy Many Fork


    token56 wrote: »
    . If it had why would it still be called a theory? .
    A theory is a substantiated explanation of facts and observations.
    A theory is never, ever going to "graduate" into a fact or a law. A theory is as good as it gets.
    This is a scientific theory. It is not to be confused with "I had an idea..."

    Evolution is both a fact and a theory. This is a good thing, not a "just".


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