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New IR carriages need repairs

  • 15-07-2010 1:43pm
    #1
    Mr Simpson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭


    What a f***ing joke, I know they say CAF will pay for the repairs but surely the deliveries shouldn't hav been accepted in the first place, sounds like the dart 8200 units all over again
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0715/rail.html


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  • #2
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,084 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    I don't see the problem. The problems likely only became apparent after the trains were in use for a while and CAF are picking up the tab anyway. If you buy a car under warranty and end up bringing it into the garage after a few months, are you a fool for having bought the car in the first place?


  • #3
    Mr Simpson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭Mr Simpson


    Stark wrote: »
    I don't see the problem. The problems likely only became apparent after the trains were in use for a while and CAF are picking up the tab anyway. If you buy a car under warranty and end up bringing it into the garage after a few months, are you a fool for having bought the car in the first place?

    Good point, I never really thought of it like that, I suppose its just my frustration having to pass through clontarf station and seeing the alstom carriages sitting there, I really hope it doesnt happen again


  • #4
    Carawaystick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    IÉ surely tested the carriages before they were used for services and should have found the issue then.
    RUI had discussions about this back in the days before they were rui.

    If there has been an issue since 206, then surely IÉ should have refunded their customers for failing to provide a service up to their high standards....;)


  • #5
    murphaph
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,050 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    IE are still to blame: they should have kept the shagging mkIIIs in service (still loads and loads of sh!ttier mkIIIs over the water all running away merrily) and spent the millions on actually FIXING the Dublin-Cork (flagship!!!) railway, rebuilding the foundations if needed. The permanent way is the problem here.


  • #6
    Bluetonic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    Lets be honest its doesn't really matter what the problem was, IE will always be at fault in the eyes of the majority. People love to hate them. If there's any chance to apportion the blame then they'll get it.

    Thats not a defense of them, just an observation of years posting on boards.ie.


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  • #7
    Judgement Day
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    Bluetonic wrote: »
    Lets be honest its doesn't really matter what the problem was, IE will always be at fault in the eyes of the majority. People love to hate them. If there's any chance to apportion the blame then they'll get it.

    Thats not a defense of them, just an observation of years posting on boards.ie.

    Well that's because it usually is their fault. In this case over a year ago this tender for repairs was first issued what has happened in the meantime? Are the carriages any nearer to being sorted out and why another tender? Meantime the same fools who oversaw this botched order are busy getting rid of perfectably serviceable MkIII's. IE should be relegated to looking after the maintenance of PW and rolling stock - under strict supervision - and all future ordering of locos, stock etc should be taken out of their hands.


  • #8
    murphaph
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,050 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    Judgement Day wrote: »
    Well that's because it usually is their fault. In this case over a year ago this tender for repairs was first issued what has happened in the meantime? Are the carriages any nearer to being sorted out and why another tender? Meantime the same fools who oversaw this botched order are busy getting rid of perfectably serviceable MkIII's. IE should be relegated to looking after the maintenance of PW and rolling stock - under strict supervision - and all future ordering of locos, stock etc should be taken out of their hands.
    Not even sure they are capable of that: how many speed restrictions are there across the network now? How many bridges have collapsed under IE's watch in the last 5 years? Not good enough by a mile.


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