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A Runners log : Patience and Consistency

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,368 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Seres wrote: »
    wednesday 27th oct

    4km run on threadmill , stretching and a bit of core : swim was not an option today afterall , i hate to admit it but i think running on the threadmill is better than the road at the moment , think it must be the hardness and the unevenness that make the back pain worse

    Sorry to hear it's still not going to plan for you Seres. :( What are your thoughts on Waterford half now? Is it out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    tunguska wrote: »
    Dublin marathon next year?? Just thought Id open a can of worms.........

    will make my decision on that once ive read all the dcm 2010 race reports , think there are some still missing tunguska !
    Sorry to hear it's still not going to plan for you Seres. :( What are your thoughts on Waterford half now? Is it out?

    ya, sure is RQ , all and any plans are well and truely out the window , kinda just a waiting game now

    today : 1250m swim & stretching


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭tunguska


    Sorry to hear the woes still continue. Must be a pisser reading all the race reports from DCM(One in particular posted at 20:23 last night, was a gripping and wildly entertaining tale:)).
    Are you still on for Athenry?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    tunguska wrote: »
    Sorry to hear the woes still continue. Must be a pisser reading all the race reports from DCM(One in particular posted at 20:23 last night, was a gripping and wildly entertaining tale:)).
    Are you still on for Athenry?

    thought i was been a real smart a$$ with that post last night , little did i know that you had already posted the report

    with regards athenry : have signed up alright , dont know how my form will be , the recovery time for this injury seems to be open ended , there is also the dilemma of gettin away for stephens day , have around 8 weeks to work on that ;)

    did it last year with feck all training , planned on smashin it for 2010 , not too lightly now though !

    if i can implement a bit more self control with the running( cause what im doin doesnt seem to be enough :mad:) i will probably recover alot quicker

    you in ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭tunguska


    Seres wrote: »
    with regards athenry : have signed up alright , there is also the dilemma of gettin away for stephens day , have around 8 weeks to work on that ;)

    Maybe you could pretend that Santa has been mixed up in an unfortunate and bizarre accident involving a combined harvester, and you have to go to his aid for approximatedly 39mins.........just throwing it out there.
    Seres wrote: »
    you in ?

    Oh Im in, Im in like.............ok I cant think of anything smart to say, but yes Im in. Scores need to be settled and rights need to be wronged. Gotta get me a fields of athenry hat aswell.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    tunguska wrote: »
    Maybe you could pretend that Santa has been mixed up in an unfortunate and bizarre accident involving a combined harvester, and you have to go to his aid for approximatedly 39mins.........just throwing it out there. .

    thanks but that excuse would fail miserably , why ?;

    their country kids and know that a combined harvested wouldnt be in use in the depths of winter unless i was willing to say that santa's accident came about because some mean sole spiked his coco and he ended up wanting to go for a joy ride and injured himself , also its the 26th of december were talking about and the kids dont care if santa has had a near death experience or not just as long as his up for the job on 24th Dec 2011
    The 39 mins would def be the most unbelievable part of that story !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    Saturday 30th Oct

    30 min run : yipee the ugly pain didnt raise its beastly head for the first time today , granted i went super slow but that doesnt matter , progress :)

    had a little chat to myself the other night bout the running and treating this injury , sumarried it went somethin like this ' you have to go REALLY easy or you wont recover sometime soon ' so i cant get too excited and go all gung ho so will try another easy run morro


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭tunguska


    Seres wrote: »
    Saturday 30th Oct

    30 min run : yipee the ugly pain didnt raise its beastly head for the first time today , granted i went super slow but that doesnt matter , progress :)

    had a little chat to myself the other night bout the running and treating this injury , sumarried it went somethin like this ' you have to go REALLY easy or you wont recover sometime soon ' so i cant get too excited and go all gung ho so will try another easy run morro

    Now you're talkin'. Great stuff Seres. Had the same experience when I was injured, went for a run one day and the pain had gone. The stretching and the exercises really do the job, you just dont notice it, its a cumulative effect.
    On a more serious note: Are you dressing up for Halloween?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    31st Oct

    4 mile run : 36.26mins , very slow but thankfully no problems today either , was worried how today would go on the back of yesterday but took it easy and is def improving , just gotta take care not to get excited and go mad !


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,368 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Exactly, don't worry about pace. Just maintain as much fitness and endurance as you can so that when you're back in action you don't have too much work to do to get back to where you where.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,531 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    That's it Seres. Nice and handy, and build back up slowly. Too many of us have learned the hard way at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    thanks KC and RQ , appreciate the advice and support


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭jb-ski


    hi S,

    good to read you're finally on the mend.

    take it easy,
    J


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    thanks jb ski , well done on the marathon , were you pleased ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭jb-ski


    Seres wrote: »
    thanks jb ski , well done on the marathon , were you pleased ?

    thanks S,

    i'm happy enough with my time, but missed the sub 3 20 by less than 2 minutes, so i'm still asking myself, could i have?, should i have? etc.

    next up is Art O'Neill for Fun:eek:...

    And then back to P&D for Connemara.

    i believe you're considering this yourself.......;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    jb-ski wrote: »
    thanks S,

    i'm happy enough with my time, but missed the sub 3 20 by less than 2 minutes, so i'm still asking myself, could i have?, should i have? etc.

    next up is Art O'Neill for Fun:eek:...

    And then back to P&D for Connemara.

    i believe you're considering this yourself.......;)

    thats a pity, thats a good time though , there is always next year , any aches and pains since ? , ya dont know bout the Art o Neill for fun business , thats what i said bout Gael Force !

    ya have been thinkin bout the half since last year , did gael force over around those parts , really gorgeous but suppose to be really tough , might be out of the country so might not get the chance in 2011 , if your round these parts and need a running/cycling partner send me a text .

    Monday 1st Nov

    Pilates : havent had it for two weeks , core is defo improving , had a bit of a pain today in pain but the pilates seemed to wipe that out ???!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    tuesday 2nd nov

    3.5miles on the machine : felt ok , wanted to let it rip but forced myself to hold back , did let loose though for a few small intervals and it felt ok , that was nice for a change

    stretching and core : feel a bit niggly now but hopefully will be grand morro ,will force myself to the pool morro , aim is for the fields the end of dec so want to take it nice and handy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    wednesday 3rd Nov

    Swim : 1km & stretching

    Not very enjoyable ,had the option of two lanes on arrival , the one with all makes, shapes and strokes or the other lane with aquaboy , i opted for the lane with aquaboy , the guy was animal in the water , was lapping me like no bodies business and that was me goin full tilt so as not too let the side down :o
    anyway quit to the steam room and shower after bustin myself for 40 lenghts , nearly passed out with the heat in the steam room and the cold in the showers , enough for one day ! might of been easier to go for jog in the driven wind and rain .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    thursday 4th Nov

    4 mile run & stretching and a bit of core work :for the first time ever i was lookin forward to a run on a threadmill , started off nice and handy , picked it up a bit to bout 7.5min/mil pace for bout km to see how it was , felt fine and increased to 7min/mil pace for another 1.5km , felt ok , slowed off then just not to overdo it , nice to get a bit of pace goin again , hopeful in a week will be back to normal and maybe put a bit of structure to my training , will keep it at every second day for running at the moment as that seems to be working , really mad to get going , still eyeing up the waterford half a bit , think closing date is the 4th December ?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,361 ✭✭✭RubyK


    Seres wrote: »
    still eyeing up the waterford half a bit , think closing date is the 4th December ?!

    They will be taking entries on the day, €30. Best of luck, you seem to have turned the corner with the injury :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    RubyK wrote: »
    They will be taking entries on the day, €30. Best of luck, you seem to have turned the corner with the injury :)
    thanks rubyk , ya definitely since last sat things seemed to have turned around , , was startin to get a bit disheartened, so excited now ! , rearing to go now but have to still take it easy , mad for a race where i just totally knock myself out :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,418 ✭✭✭jfh


    great to hear you finally shaking off the injury, 5 weeks to go till waterford!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    saturday 6th Nov

    4 mile in 32.30 :thankfully felt ok , trying to up the pace slowly , def improvement , did same run this time last week alot slower , think im a bit obsessed with my core at the moment, while im running , feel my style is not from extremely sloppy to really stiff .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    sunday 7th nov

    4 miles in 32min : up and out by nine , think i got the best part of the day , cold , crisp , fresh and bright , nothin better than getting out for an early morning run at the weekend ,especially sunday, in these conditions , met bout 2 cars for the half an hour felt a bit niggly towards the end , morro running free should sort that out , will do core work later , just to give things a break , will up to 5 miles every second day next week , will also increase reps nos for the core work , hopefully will get in 4 days next week , maybe 5 the following week all goin to plan with a bit of speed too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    god these logs make you feel so guilt if you miss a day , didnt post since sunday and i was pushed back to page 4

    Monday 8th Nov

    stretching and a small bit of core , no pilates , replaced with a really exciting meeting , unfortunately will miss next monday too for the same reason :mad:

    Tuesday 9th Nov

    Decided to just try and do a small bit of speed today in the gym

    8km : 2.5km warm up , 5*2min burst : 3@ 7min/mil pace & 2 @ 6.40pace , took 1 & 1.5min breaks , just not to overdo it , warm down

    think my running style is gone a bit arse ways , so obsessed with left S1 joint and left glute that im gone really fridged , the pain seems to have pushed over a bit to just below my hip bone , will see what happens , maybe it will just go a way , no core work , didnt want to overdo it after my massive speed session !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    Wednesday 10th Nov

    4miles on threadmill & Core and Stretching : had planned a swim but felt i was ok to go for a run , had planned very easy 3 miles but varied the speed , ran @ 8min/mil for some , then up to 7.5min/mil , then 7min/mil and a bit at 6.40min/mil , dont know how long i spent at each pace , just was deciding what to do as i went along , hopefully can start a program with some proper speed work and long runs soon enough , will help put structure on my training , think might do a bit of 10km specific training for moment as its not too fast and dosent require high weekly mileage .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    12th Nov 2010

    did really get a chance today to post yesterdays session , nothin too serio though

    2 miles & Stretch Core and 500m swim : legs were tired yesterday and front of hip at me so decided to call a halt at 2 miles , rushed down to pool to get caught up talking , left me with only 10mins for 20 lenghts , bloodly lifeguard decided to take down the lane while i was swimin in it , think she would have had a bit of manners and taken down the two other lanes that had not one in them first .:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    saturday 13th Nov

    4.5 miles , increased the pace fro bout 10min , lost alot of fitness , hadnt planned doin this , had planned easy run , will start wearin garmin again , had stopped for a while to stop checkin my pace , bit of niggle above hip continuing , cycle morro , pilates mon and if niggle still there tues will go back to physio ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭Seres


    Tuesday 16th Nov


    Bit of a moan so dont read if your not in the mood
    things havent been goin that well running wise at the moment ,pushed myself a bit to much last week with running three day in a row and trying to put a bit of speed in two of the four sessions of the week , felt pain coming back on sat night so decided to rest sun and mon in the hope that all would be well
    Went to gym ye.sterday ,could kind of feel the pain but did a small bit of speed in a 6km threadmill run anyway , was so pi$$ed at pain gettin worse that i ignored it and continued on despite , stupid , stupid self ! your body will react and it did , so worse today , back to physio friday , was too ticked off to posted yesterday ev (would have just been a litany of curses anyway ) , read thru my log to make myself feel better about the progress i have made with the injury but didnt really help .
    Think im just goin to hope that its right for the new year and thats, it no more expectation for 2010.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,623 ✭✭✭dna_leri


    Seres wrote: »
    Tuesday 16th Nov


    Bit of a moan so dont read if your not in the mood
    things havent been goin that well running wise at the moment ,pushed myself a bit to much last week with running three day in a row and trying to put a bit of speed in two of the four sessions of the week , felt pain coming back on sat night so decided to rest sun and mon in the hope that all would be well
    Went to gym ye.sterday ,could kind of feel the pain but did a small bit of speed in a 6km threadmill run anyway , was so pi$$ed at pain gettin worse that i ignored it and continued on despite , stupid , stupid self ! your body will react and it did , so worse today , back to physio friday , was too ticked off to posted yesterday ev (would have just been a litany of curses anyway ) , read thru my log to make myself feel better about the progress i have made with the injury but didnt really help .
    Think im just goin to hope that its right for the new year and thats, it no more expectation for 2010.

    Its hard to give anyone advise when dealing with an injury - so I won't. From your main forum question, no-one else seems to know better either.

    In my case I started with 4 weeks of easy running before I started any faster work, then 4 weeks of "general prep" to transition from that to "race training".

    It can help to focus on a long term goal. In my case I set a 12 week and a 12 month goal. At this point the 12 week one is in sight but the 12 month one (which I kept to myself) is still impossible.


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