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  • 14-07-2010 1:30pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭


    Hey folks

    Looking for some specialist advice!!Any info appreciated.

    Been going to the gym a lot over the past year and have gotten much fitter and stronger however long story short I want to put on an extra 6-8 pounds of muscle but I've hit a road block and it could be partially down to my training or diet, could be both:mad:

    I'm 6ft and 171 pounds, BF%15. I go to the gym 5-6 times a week and train football twice a week and would consider myself in decent enough shape at the moment.

    My diet is as follows

    Breakfast:4eggs(2 full,2whites) two slices brown bread in the morning or some porridge along with some fruit and orange juice

    Snack midday of some nuts and youghert.

    Some pasta chicken or tuna sandwich hour and half before workout.

    Post workout shake of 2sccops whey.

    Then fish/steak/chicken along with some salad after for dinner.

    Usually keep carbs low after 9. On the days I go football training I usually eat a lot of carbs beforehand like a pizza or a lot of pasta.

    Not great at counting the calorie intake but I'm not sure if the above is enough. Not sure if a mass gainer is the road I want to go down either.

    The problem is I can tell I'm getting a lot leaner however not gaining the extra pounds. I try upping the weights I do every two weeks.

    Routine i'm doing at the moment is a 3 day one

    Day 1 Back/Biceps/Shoulders
    Pull Ups 1x10 2x8
    Shoulder Press 3x10 45kg
    Power partials 3x10 12kg
    Seated Cable rows 3x10
    Inverted Rows 3x10
    Lat pulldowns 3 x10

    Day 2 Legs

    Squats 5x5 max 100kg
    Deadlifts 5x5 max 110kg
    Split squats 10x3 20kg
    Calf Raises 10x3
    Calf Press 10x3
    Leg Extensions 3x10

    Day 3 Chest triceps

    Weighted tricep dips 3x8 8kg,10kg,12kg
    Incline chest press 3x8 24kg
    Bench Press 5x5 Max 65kg
    Tricep cable pull down 3x8
    Incline Dumbell flys 3 x8 16kg
    Tricep press 24kg

    Thanks for the help.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭TommyKnocker


    Hi There

    Firstly I have a couple of questions.

    • You said that you go to the gym 5-6 days a week but only listed weight workouts for 3 days. What do you do on the other 2-3 days, Cardio? if yes what kind and for how long?
    • Depending on the answer to the question above, do you alternate weight training with cardio?
    • You said you train for football twice per week. What level are you playing at? How long does training last and what does a typical session consist of
    • In Season do you play a match each week in addition to the training outlined?
    My unqualified opinion just based on what you presented in your opening post is that you are not eating enough.

    I would suggest upping your calorie intake a little at a time till you start to see the gains you want.

    For example
    • 1 lt of full fat milk will add about 600 calories
    • 100g of mixed nuts will add about 600 calories
    • 1 tin of tuna will add about 150 calories
    I am not advocating doubling your food intake or anything. But you could easily add about 500-1000 calories to your daily diet, give it 4-6 weeks to notice any effects. If gaining to quickly cut back a bit. If not gaining, then increase again.

    IMHO the trick (as you play a competitive sport) is not to try and gain too quickly, as this could be mostly fat which might impede your sporting performance.


    Just my 2 cents worth.


    Best Regards,

    M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭Ice87


    Thanks for the reply.

    Sorry I forgot to mention I only do weights in the gym and alternate with that 3 day routine. Once I'm finished I the third day I go back to the first.

    Football training is fairly intense pre-season with a lot of cardio/sprints and agility work. Sessions last about 2 hours. From August I'll have a match on Sundays and training twice a week.

    I'd agree with you about gaining too quickly as it would probably turn into fat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭TommyKnocker


    Hi Again

    Ok, so I have 2 more unqualified points to make, but first a question or two

    • How long have you been doing that routine?
    • How often do you increase the weight you are lifting on each exercise?
    Your training week looks pretty intense and will become more so when the season starts and the matches begin.

    Your muscles do not grow when you work them, they get broken down. It's when they are rested and given the correct nutrients in the required quantities that they repair and grow in both size and strength.

    I think you might actually benefit from cutting your weight training back a little. Also you could have a look at the Starting Strength program, which is a beginners 3 day fully body program for strength and size gains. Do your weights on 3 days when you are not football training, and also give them some time to rest, repair and grow. Believe it or not less is sometimes more ;)

    Just another 2 cents worth.


    M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    B-Builder wrote: »
    Hi Again

    Ok, so I have 2 more unqualified points to make, but first a question or two

    • How long have you been doing that routine?
    • How often do you increase the weight you are lifting on each exercise?
    Your training week looks pretty intense and will become more so when the season starts and the matches begin.

    Your muscles do not grow when you work them, they get broken down. It's when they are rested and given the correct nutrients in the required quantities that they repair and grow in both size and strength.

    I think you might actually benefit from cutting your weight training back a little. Also you could have a look at the Starting Strength program, which is a beginners 3 day fully body program for strength and size gains. Do your weights on 3 days when you are not football training, and also give them some time to rest, repair and grow. Believe it or not less is sometimes more ;)

    Just another 2 cents worth.


    M
    agreed mix up your sessions a little more and vary the rep range every 6 weeks

    just make sure your calorie intake is held high around workout times


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