Murder or paedophilia, which is worse?

Deus Ex Machina

In my experience no crime evokes more anger than paedophilia. It is certainly a terrible crime, but is it the worst? I personally think that murder is worse, as there is no possibility that the individual being killed can get over that, whereas I think it is possible to overcome the trauma of being a victim of a paedophile.

AudreyHepburn

Paedophilia is by far the worst crime of all. Even other criminals detest child molesters.

How anyone can hurt a child in that way is beyond me. At least if you are dead you can't suffer any more but victims of child abuse have to carry it with them for the rest of their lives.

genericguy

paedophilia. the child then has the rest of their life to feel shyte about what happened to them.

Denerick

I want there to be an option - 'This poll is so retarded it only deserves a guffaw of contempt'.

Leeg17

Yea pretty much most criminals hate the guts of peadophiles. Especially ones who can see no wrong in what they did. Bring back the death penatly I says!

genericguy

Denerick wrote: »

I want there to be an option - 'This poll is so retarded it only deserves a guffaw of contempt'.

perfectly legitimate question imo.

mojesius

That's a very tough question to vote on, so I won't.

Denerick

genericguy wrote: »

perfectly legitimate question imo.

Both are evil acts that cause immense pain and harm. This thread has the intellectual value of a Daily Mail column.

My name is URL

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Paedophilia is by far the worst crime of all. Even other criminals detest child molesters.

How anyone can hurt a child in that way is beyond me. At least if you are dead you can't suffer any more but victims of child abuse have to carry it with them for the rest of their lives.

That's bull****, and an insult to anyone that was ever abused as a child. Go and tell them that they'd be better off dead..

yeah, other criminals detest child molesters.. the fine upstanding members of society that they are

ffs

Eddie Ere

It could possibly depend on each situation so I'm going to opt out of giving an answer on this one.

dlofnep

Murder. Without a doubt. It's not even up for question.

On the scale of bad stuff - Murder is a 10, pedophilia is a 9, walking on a spider by accident is a 1.

Melion

Paedophilia, absolutley.

I know it might be controversial but there can sometimes be a reason for murder(self defence etc), there is no reason to abuse children.

AudreyHepburn

My name is URL wrote: »

That's bull****, and an insult to anyone that was ever abused as a child. Go and tell them that they'd be better off dead..

yeah, other criminals detest child molesters.. the fine upstanding members of society that they are

ffs

I'm not trying to be insulting at all. I never once said they'd be better off dead.

If there had been a third choice there like Neither or Don't Know I might have picked that.

I just think child abuse is far worse because of the nature of the crime and the fact that it can and does have horrible and far reaching consequences.

If you were murdered at least your suffering would end. But that doesn't mean I think they'd be better off dead at all.

I make no apologies for my opinions.

dlofnep

Melion wrote: »

Paedophilia, absolutley.

I know it might be controversial but there can sometimes be a reason for murder(self defence etc), there is no reason to abuse children.

You can't murder someone in self-defense. That's manslaughter. Murder is a pre-meditated act, afaik.

Pherekydes

Melion wrote: »

...a reason for murder(self defence etc)

Methinks you need to look up the definition of murder.

GavRedKing

Paedophilia gets my vote.

Murder is also terrible, but when I hear paedophilia, it just makes me take notice more IMO.

MiciG91

A quick solution to get rid off paedophiles is simple.Kill all the good looking children simples :pac:

Naos

I think I'd opt for murder.

As sick as this sounds, if I had to choose one to happen to someone close to me, I'd rather it be the paedophilia over murder.

Yes paedophiia can screw up a life but there are many who've been a victim but came through the other side. If you're murdered, you don't even get the chance to try.

I understand though that paedophilia the most heinous and disgusting act and that's why people would opt for that.

Melion

Sorry, i should have said murdering someone after being abused i.e a woman finally snapping after years of abuse and killing husband. Surely thats murder and not manslaughter.

Eddie Ere

MiciG91 wrote: »

A quick solution to get rid off paedophiles is simple.Kill all the good looking children simples :pac:

I hate to use this word but:

Fail.

WindSock

What if you murder a paedophile?

Deus Ex Machina

Denerick wrote: »

Both are evil acts that cause immense pain and harm.

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we'llallhavetea_old

well i'd rather my child be molested than be dead. who wouldn't?

Benny Lava

Murder.

mojesius

On second thoughts, a victim of paedophilia and the victim's family at least have the chance to attain justice, get help and hopefully one day, to move on. A murder victim and their family can never have that.

Stercus Accidit

I love how the poll itself is arseways.

Paedophilia is being sexually attracted to children, it can lead on to child molestation or rape, OP are we supposed to answer, is it worse to find children attractive or to kill someone?

I assume you meant actual child molestation, but the phrasing is in itself wrong.

But yeah, seriously, we may watch murder simulated on TV, in games, films, people are used to it, they don't get that hollywood paedophile movie to glamorise it, as such it is seen as worse.

But definitely, killing someone is worse for the victim and their families, the difference is that murder is usually aimed at adults, child killers are as despised as child molesters, even more so.

Ask yourself, is a child molester worse than a child killer? Is a child killer worse than an adult killer?

AudreyHepburn

we'llallhavetea wrote: »

well i'd rather my child be molested than be dead. who wouldn't?

Honestly I think the thought of anyone doing what child molesters do to my child would kill me me more.

How could any parent wish that on a child?

Stercus Accidit

Deus Ex Machina wrote: »

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Stercus Accidit

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Honestly I think the thought of anyone doing what child molesters do to my child would kill me me more.

How could any parent wish that on a child?

So you'd sooner have them killed? What? Maybe just kill them yourself afterwards...

we'llallhavetea_old

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Honestly I think the thought of anyone doing what child molesters do to my child would kill me me more.

How could any parent wish that on a child?

i'd change that fcuking comment if i were you. i'm wishing that on my child am i? give me a fcuking break you sensationalist 'tard.

i'd rather have my daughter alive, you rather yours dead. (see, not nice is it?)

WindSock

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Honestly I think the thought of anyone doing what child molesters do to my child would kill me me more.

How could any parent wish that on a child?

Look at a parent who's child has been murdered and compare their grief to the parent who has realised their kid has been molested. Both really horrible, but I can imagine one will never recover from the death of their murdered child.

mikemac

If your child is murdered they are never coming back, never.

If they are attacked, you can them get counseling, drugs, medical care and years and years of support from professionals.
Can go on to live fulfilling lives and do whatever they want to do, they might never forget but they are still there with you in your old age, grandchildren even

tolosenc

Both, along with rape, should still carry the potential for the death penalty, imo. Not the kind of people we're comfortable with having in our society.

AudreyHepburn

we'llallhavetea wrote: »

i'd change that fcuking comment if i were you. i'm wishing that on my child am i? give me a fcuking break you sensationalist 'tard.

I was just responding to the comment as I took it up nothing more. There's no need for threats or name-calling. Consider yourself reported.

i'd rather have my daughter alive, you rather yours dead. (see, not nice is it?)

No it's not nice but if some-one came to me and said you have a choice, I'll either rape your little girl or kill her I'd rather he kill her because her suffering would be over quickly. I'd suffer the rest of my life of course but I'd rather me than her.

Naos

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

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No it's not nice but if some-one came to me and said you have a choice, I'll either rape your little girl or kill her I'd rather he kill her because her suffering would be over quickly. I'd suffer the rest of my life of course but I'd rather me than her.

I don't intend to be mean, but I would not like you as a parent.

I like the whole being alive thing, I'll sort out any sh1t that comes my way but I'd rather the opportunity at sorting it and failing than just being killed.

Jesus wept.

we'llallhavetea_old

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I was just responding to the comment as I took it up nothing more. There's no need for threats or name-calling. Consider yourself reported.

no, you insinuated i was actually wishing sexual abuse on my daughter.

No it's not nice but if some-one came to me and said you have a choice, I'll either rape your little girl or kill her I'd rather he kill her because her suffering would be over quickly. I'd suffer the rest of my life of course but I'd rather me than her.

why? you assume murder is quick? yeah, sure it can be but your child could be mutilated before they're killed.

i'd rather have a complete mess of a child that no child at all.

Chucky the tree

Christ I hope you never have kids Audrey.

WindSock

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

No it's not nice but if some-one came to me and said you have a choice, I'll either rape your little girl or kill her I'd rather he kill her because her suffering would be over quickly. I'd suffer the rest of my life of course but I'd rather me than her.

What if she was killed slowly and tortured or beaten to death?

Wazdakka

WindSock wrote: »

What if she was killed slowly and tortured or beaten to death?

There is something quite unwholesome about thanking a post that says that...

AudreyHepburn

Look I never said it would be an easy choice to make. I'm that cold-hearted. It would kill me to do it but if that were the choice I was faced with.......

If I could though I would tell the person to hurt me or kill me instead, I'm not some kind of monster.

Can you people honestly tell me you would be ok with some-one raping and molesting your child as long as they didn't kill them?

WindSock

Actually, it is not a B&W issue. From my outsiders pov there are some cases where I don't care much about certain types being murdered. However there are no cases of child molestation that I deem to care as little about.

we'llallhavetea_old

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Look I never said it would be an easy choice to make. I'm that cold-hearted. It would kill me to do it but if that were the choice I was faced with.......

If I could though I would tell the person to hurt me or kill me instead, I'm not some kind of monster.

Can you people honestly tell me you would be ok with some-one raping and molesting your child as long as they didn't kill them?

there you go again... who said they would be ok with it???

WindSock

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Can you people honestly tell me you would be ok with some-one raping and molesting your child as long as they didn't kill them?

Sure I'd be ok with someone raping my child. Sure...

Chucky the tree

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Look I never said it would be an easy choice to make. I'm that cold-hearted. It would kill me to do it but if that were the choice I was faced with.......

If I could though I would tell the person to hurt me or kill me instead, I'm not some kind of monster.

Can you people honestly tell me you would be ok with some-one raping and molesting your child as long as they didn't kill them?

Where the **** are you getting this from? I'm pretty sure no one would be "okay" with it but they anyone who isn't thick as **** would realise it's better then having your child killed.

Dennis the Stone

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Can you people honestly tell me you would be ok with some-one raping and molesting your child as long as they didn't kill them?

Once again, you're lacking a fundamental understanding of what is being discussed.

Yes, I would definitely be okay with it. It would be great craic altogether.

Jesus Wept indeed.

allanb49

Depends if it's murder in cold blood, an accident or defense.

But over all paedos are the bottom of the barrel, them and rapists

Cypher_sounds

Why make such a thread???their both awful awful things

ixoy

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Can you people honestly tell me you would be ok with some-one raping and molesting your child as long as they didn't kill them?

Would you honestly tell a victim of child abuse that they'd be better off dead?

AudreyHepburn

I understand perfectly what's being discussed, it's just that what I'm getting from this thread is that people would rather a child be raped than killed.....am I missing something.

I think I'll quit now. I'm obviously just some cold-hearted monster to all of you so maybe I'll just opt out before I'm run out.

WindSock

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I understand perfectly what's being discussed, it's just that what I'm getting from this thread is that people would rather a child be raped than killed.....am I missing something.

Yes. You don't understand that to most, a dead child is worse than a raped one.

BettePorter

i think the question should be worded differently........it all depends on the context. if you asked me who would i rather live beside or share a cell with, it would always be the murderer....( unless he was in jail for killing his last cell mate !) paedo is by far the lowest you can go, in fact i'd go so far as to emphasize my theory by murdering the paedo. if i where introduced to someone who was a known paedo or murderer......i'd engage the murderer before i'd even share the same air as the paedo.

murder can have many 'motives and justifications'........look at women who murder the husband who batters them for years versus the likes of catherine nevin. i could forgive a murderer, but people who have the desire to abuse kids are wired wrong, they should just be put down, its not curable.

choosing if my kid should be murdered or raped though is a whole other thread though and shouldn't be related to this one.