Dublin vs Armagh Qualifiers Round 3

DH2K9

Who is going to win?
What will the attendance be?
What will happen to Gilroy if Dublin lose?

dundalkbhoy

mc donnell Clarke and Carr possibly the best full forward line in the country against possibly the worst full back line only one result for me a dublin victory;)

dartbhoy

Dublin aren't going well at the moment but I still think they will beat Armagh by 2 or 3 points. If they do lose I can't see Gilroy been manager any longer. As for the attendance I expect Armagh to bring a good following so i'll go with an attendance of around 40-45,000.

Flukey

I got tickets and there were others there getting them at the time, so you can guarantee there will be at least half a dozen of us there. I'll be there to see the Hurling too, as will many Dubs, and Antrim will certainly bring a crowd. As to the winners, Dublin have their problems, but so do Armagh. It could go either way. It''ll depend on who clicks on the day. Dublin should beat Antrim though.

Drummerboy2

If Gilroy picks the right team Dublin could win by a couple of pints. If he starts the same team as Saturday, Armagh will win handy enough. Cullen, Cahill and Fennell have to start. McAuley and O’Gara deserve to keep their places.

Floppybits

Have my ticket for this game as well. Im going mainly to see the hurlers. I think the hurlers will win, they seem to be going well and I hope they can put an end to the lacklustre starts after half time.

As for the football, this could go anyway and I think this depends on the team that shows up. Last saturday we were woeful and if it had of been anyone else but Tipp we could have been beaten. Fennell should start but I don't think he is as good as everyone thinks, good fielder of the ball but not very mobile. Think Dublin might edge it but it will be close.

As for Gilroy, I think he is gone as soon as we are knocked out of the championship. I think him and Whelan have poisoned Dublin football with their treatment of players and to highlight that fact just look at the decision to stop O'Carroll from lining out with the Under 21's tonight. Sooner they are gone the better.

DH2K9

I think maybe Fennel and Cahill come back into the side for Flynn and Brennan. Put McAuley up in centre half forward and put either Cahill or Henry in centre half back.

corny

I'd go further. Stevie Mac has to be stopped but no one lining out last week has the ability to stop him it seems. I'd put Cahill in to mark him and I'd also put Alan Brogan closer to goal. He's wasted in and around the 40.

Have no confidence in Gilroy picking the right team though.

Anthony Walsh

Flukey wrote: »

Dublin should beat Antrim though.

I wouldn't be too set on that yet, I was talking to someone who went to there training session and apartently they have bulkled up. That was Antrim's main problem was the lack of strength. I reckon both games will be interesting. Dublin will scrape by in the football but will under-estimate the hurlers of Antrim and definitely be going in at half time losing but 2nd half will be anyones.

Mushy

Should be a good match with a half decent attendance. Double header will be good to see too. Actually hoping to attend this now as I'd just be bored that day otherwise. What is the exact running order for the matches?

Also, I know its been asked laods, but when I checked ticketmaster, it didn't mention student tickets. I thought it always did. Am I safe in assuming that if I pay the adult price online/desk, I'll get the student discount at the gate?

dcr22B

Hurling at 3pm
Football at 5pm

quagmar

Quote:
Originally Posted by DH2K9
You are reading to much into it. The difference is these lads were dropped because they bottled it on the big days in August in front of a packed Croke Park. They are all bottlers. Are you telling me that you would have kept these lads? Ciaran Whelan retired, Jayo still had a moment of brilliance but contributed nothing from open play, Vaughan was unfit, big headed and all he could was take frees and as for shane ryan if you remember rightly he switched to the hurlers!


Vaughan should be called back in he started one year kicked 1-28 the third highest scorer in championship that year and played 2 games less than the other two top scorers. He also was second top scorer from play for Dublin that year with 1-6.

Coogee

On form Armagh will win this one. Form cannot be just switched on like a light come match day and Dublin have been very average in the championship so far.

Floppybits

Coogee wrote: »

On form Armagh will win this one. Form cannot be just switched on like a light come match day and Dublin have been very average in the championship so far.

Coogee you are being a bit kind there saying Dublin have been average. Dublin have been crap and I cant see any improvement this weekend either.

Bluetonic

quagmar wrote: »

Vaughan should be called back in he started one year kicked 1-28 the third highest scorer in championship that year and played 2 games less than the other two top scorers. He also was second top scorer from play for Dublin that year with 1-6.

Vaughan has the wrong attitude to be playing inter-county football. He would have the potential to ruin some of the younger members in the squad and would be an influence that could be done without. Kicked as many wides as he did over.

Ephie

Mushy wrote: »

Also, I know its been asked laods, but when I checked ticketmaster, it didn't mention student tickets. I thought it always did. Am I safe in assuming that if I pay the adult price online/desk, I'll get the student discount at the gate?

Yeah, but refund only given on Cusack/Canal tickets - go to Block D turnstiles at rear of Cusack Stand before the game to get it (they don't do refunds after the game)

GAAman

I cant see us winning this, and to be honest based on form as of late can anyone say we really deserve it?

Breaks my heart sayin it but it has to be said

DH2K9

Vaughan should be called back in he started one year kicked 1-28 the third highest scorer in championship that year and played 2 games less than the other two top scorers. He also was second top scorer from play for Dublin that year with 1-6. [/QUOTE]

This is a lad who had his name on the back of his car. He has always been an individual and not a team player.

Mushy

Ephie wrote: »

Yeah, but refund only given on Cusack/Canal tickets - go to Block D turnstiles at rear of Cusack Stand before the game to get it (they don't do refunds after the game)

Cheers! Knew it'd be there from last time, but didn't see a mention of it on ticketmaster.

Hoping for some good games now.

joxers25

Anyone know how to get tickets for the Nally?

have a 10 year old who wants to stand in a terrace but don't want to have her in the hill.

Thanks

infamous

Dublin are way off an all-ireland but would gilroy please give us a chance by fielding a decent team, how can he persist with corkery, flynn and ger brennan it makes no sense, the more preassure he is put under the crazier his decisions have become

Drummerboy2

infamous wrote: »

Dublin are way off an all-ireland but would gilroy please give us a chance by fielding a decent team, how can he persist with corkery, flynn and ger brennan it makes no sense, the more preassure he is put under the crazier his decisions have become

Totally agree. How he can leave players like Cullen and Cahill on the line is quite amazing. Perhaps there is a power struggle going on with the players but if we are to have any chance of beating Armagh tomorrow these two players have to start.

blackbelt

We will be soundly beaten tomorrow.

That may not be such a disaster as it is extra pressure for the DCB to get rid of those headless chickens Gilroy and Mickey Whelan.

As for the hurlers,they deserve the big following and commitment because they know what they are about and have an honest management team in place.

Ephie

There has to be something going on behind the scenes, cos he can't be that stupid! Cullen definitely should be on. I do hope I'm eating my words but I can't see that same team playing well on Sat.

blackbelt

The philosophy is probably that "we are as good as our last game".Unfortunately what we see and what the management see are two totally different things.

patmac

Well the one good thing about Gilroy is that there is a real shortage of the words hype, bandwagon etc associated with Dublin on Boards this year!
The only advantage is that no-one is expecting a Dublin win so the usual pressure is off.

keane2097

I'm not really sure why people are so insistant on the likes of Cullen being picked for Dublin.

I mean, what are your goals?

If you're happy to just fart about in Leinster winning provincial titles most years then fair enough, fire away. But the likes of Cullen and Cahill have been shown many times over the years to not be of sufficient quality to beat any decent teams at All Ireland level.

You have two reaistic options IMO:

1. Go back to the Cullens, Cahills, Quinns etc and win a few more Leinster titles, which tbh should have fairly limited value at this stage.

2. Blood younger players. Take a few losses in Leinster for a couple of years. Get experience of playing teams besides the same three or four ye come up against every year in Leinster and possibly build a team capable of moving up a level over the course of 5 years or so.

It seems people want to go with option 1, which I can't understand tbh.

Floppybits

Ephie wrote: »

There has to be something going on behind the scenes, cos he can't be that stupid! Cullen definitely should be on. I do hope I'm eating my words but I can't see that same team playing well on Sat.

Ephie, I was thinking the same thing myself and was wondering if Gilroy has lost the dressing room. His team selections make no sense at all. Corkery was non existent the other day, Brennan is a liability and likely to be sent off and Flynn just hasn't got it. What surprises me is that he hasn't restored Fennell to the starting 15? I'm not a big fan of him but he is a lot better than Ross McConnell. At least he can field a ball.

If we do loose on Saturday, I do hope it is the end of this management regime.

Orchard Rebel

Good news for the Dubs: the preview on the RTE sport Website has picked you to beat us tonorrow.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/2010/0716/dublin_armagh.html

Bad news for the Dubs: they've also picked us to get beaten in five of our last six NFL and Championship games (Donegal, Down, Derry, Donegal again and Fermanagh) and got it wrong every time. I think they picked us to beat Monaghan and got that wrong too.

dcr22B

Orchard Rebel wrote: »

Good news for the Dubs: the preview on the RTE sport Website has picked you to beat us tonorrow.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/2010/0716/dublin_armagh.html

Bad news for the Dubs: they've also picked us to get beaten in five of our last six NFL and Championship games (Donegal, Down, Derry, Donegal again and Fermanagh) and got it wrong every time. I think they picked us to beat Monaghan and got that wrong too.

I always prefer it when they predict against us as well

Ephie

Floppybits wrote: »

What surprises me is that he hasn't restored Fennell to the starting 15? I'm not a big fan of him but he is a lot better than Ross McConnell. At least he can field a ball.

Fennell is supposed to have been carrying an injury, he seemed fit when he came on against Tipp and he's been training fully since...I'd defo start him if he was fit.

quagmar

'Vaughan has the wrong attitude to be playing inter-county football. He would have the potential to ruin some of the younger members in the squad and would be an influence that could be done without. Kicked as many wides as he did over. ' Lol

He was dublin's best scorer he kicked over 85% of shots hit missed 4/27 frees (including 45's) in 2007. Got an All-Star nominee on the back of just feees which is pretty rare. I agree that he is'nt the best player from play and comes in and out of games too much but he really puts pressure on the oppostions defensive because they feel they cant foul anywhere up to 60 metres out.

Bluetonic

quagmar wrote: »

He was dublin's best scorer he kicked over 85% of shots hit missed 4/27 frees (including 45's) in 2007. Got an All-Star nominee on the back of just feees which is pretty rare.

I wouldn't say the analysis of 27 frees during the 2007 season would be best to use to prove any points.

I stand by my comment and will ask you why you childishly "LOL'd" it?

Exactly which part of my post was funny?

Long Term Louth

Drummerboy2 wrote: »

If Gilroy picks the right team Dublin could win by a couple of pints. If he starts the same team as Saturday, Armagh will win handy enough. Cullen, Cahill and Fennell have to start. McAuley and O’Gara deserve to keep their places.

A couple of points will not be enough if Sludden is ref.

stinky eggs

Gonna be a tough one.. Need to take our chance..

Missing silly goal chances like the first minute agains tipp will kill us..

quagmar

Bluetonic wrote: »

I wouldn't say the analysis of 27 frees during the 2007 season would be best to use to prove any points.

I stand by my comment and will ask you why you childishly "LOL'd" it?

Exactly which part of my post was funny?

I lol because your point he missed as many as he scored, when he was top percentage scorer that year. I just think his overall record with whatever team he is on is top class, its no coincidence that Crokes started winning championships when he came through, he was also on that minor team that lost in the all-ireland final i think.

Dermot Connelly is another that should be in there, he is a stunning player that can open defensives. i really thought Pat being from the same club could of brought him on. Hopefully the new manager next will readress this

quagmar

Bluetonic wrote: »

I wouldn't say the analysis of 27 frees during the 2007 season would be best to use to prove any points.

I stand by my comment and will ask you why you childishly "LOL'd" it?

Exactly which part of my post was funny?

Just after looking at some of your posts and you really are thick. England for the wc and Dublin for SAM,now that is a lol.

Bluetonic

quagmar wrote: »

Just after looking at some of your posts and you really are thick. England for the wc and Dublin for SAM,now that is a lol.

England for the world cup, pardon?

Also where did I say Dublin would win the All Ireland?

I would learn some manners, then how to use a computer, then understand context.

Anyhow post reported for abuse.

Bluetonic

quagmar wrote: »

I lol because your point he missed as many as he scored, when he was top percentage scorer that year.

Only you mentioned the year, I mentioned his overall career.

I also never singled out frees, you did.

There is no doubting either.

stinky eggs

Bluetonic wrote: »

England for the world cup, pardon?

Also where did I say Dublin would win the All Ireland?

I would learn some manners, then how to use a computer.

Anyhow post reported for abuse.

:eek:

quagmar

Bluetonic wrote: »

England for the world cup, pardon?

Also where did I say Dublin would win the All Ireland?

I would learn some manners, then how to use a computer.

Anyhow post reported for abuse.

Nice you deleted the post where you said in the gambling forum that you were having a big bet on england and dublin double and was considering dublin hurlers, so dont even start questioning me there. Vaughan's overall Dublin record is good, given he has been poor or non-existance on some days, when he has been on the frees he has been top notch.

quagmar

Bluetonic wrote: »

England for the world cup, pardon?

Also where did I say Dublin would win the All Ireland?

I would learn some manners, then how to use a computer, then understand context.

Anyhow post reported for abuse.

Bluetonic wrote: »

I've a big double on England for the WC and Dublin for Sam, was going to throw in Dublin for the Liam McCarthy and make it a treble but am not that foolish.

89/1 the money is in the bag.

There you go. Are you that dumb that you dont remember your post?

Bluetonic

quagmar wrote: »

Nice you deleted the post where you said in the gambling forum that you were having a big bet on england and dublin double and was considering dublin hurlers, so dont even start questioning me there.

I didn't delete any post. Maybe you should read the thread and the post again before making a show of yourself.

quagmar wrote: »

Vaughan's overall Dublin record is good, given he has been poor or non-existance on some days, when he has been on the frees he has been top notch.

You have your opinion, I have mine. Thankfully mine is a matter of fact.

Bluetonic

quagmar wrote: »

There you go. Are you that dumb that you dont remember your post?

quagmar

Bluetonic wrote: »

I didn't delete any post. Maybe you should read the thread and the post again before making a show of yourself.


You have your opinion, I have mine. Thankfully mine is a matter of fact.

LOL. How is yours fact. I am giving you the stats. Thats a fact. You are saying he missed more than he scored show me or give me the numbers. No fact in what you are saying idiot

aidan24326

DH2K9 wrote: »

Who is going to win?

Should be Armagh, but you never know. Dublin are capable of more than they've shown so far, but I think they're being hindered by incompetent management. I don't think there will be much in it but unless Dublin show significant improvement you'd have to fancy Armagh, who are a tempting betting proposition at 13/8.

What will the attendance be?

Better than the last day for sure. Should be at least 40,000.

What will happen to Gilroy if Dublin lose?

Probably be kept on for another year anyway I'd say. Who else would want the job at the moment? Dublin are further than ever from challenging for an All-Ireland, though I can't see how bringing in an unproven manager like Gilroy was ever going to help. He wasn't the right man for the job in the first place.

quagmar

Bluetonic wrote: »

Thought you didnt back England or Dublin? lol. Reporting me for abuse. Dont be stupid

quagmar

aidan24326 wrote: »

Should be Armagh, but you never know. Dublin are capable of more than they've shown so far, but I think they're being hindered by incompetent management. I don't think there will be much in it but unless Dublin show significant improvement you'd have to fancy Armagh, who are a tempting betting proposition at 13/8.




Better than the last day for sure. Should be at least 40,000.




Probably be kept on for another year anyway I'd say. Who else would want the job at the moment? Dublin are further than ever from challenging for an All-Ireland, though I can't see how bringing in an unproven manager like Gilroy was ever going to help. He wasn't the right man for the job in the first place.

Lack of candidates for the job, it is effectively the English managerial job. Not good enough Dublin and in the spot light too much. Gilroy is gone if he loses. I am 99% sure

Bluetonic

quagmar wrote: »

Thought you didnt back England or Dublin? lol. Reporting me for abuse. Dont be stupid

If you think what you read was the truth given the context then I've a battle on my hands with trying to get you to comprehend Vaughan's career stats.

After you apologise for the abuse I'll deal with your request.

quagmar

Sorry. I have a lot of stats, with the exception of last year

quagmar

Bluetonic wrote: »

If you think what you read was the truth given the context then I've a battle on my hands with trying to get you to comprehend Vaughan's career stats.

After you apologise for the abuse I'll deal with your request.[/QUOTE

Show the stats. I sent an apology