Going rate for new surfboard

aquaman

Anyone know anything about surfboards.ie?
they have what seem to be very reasonably priced 8' fibreglass and epoxy minimals...

Also how much should I be paying for such a board?
Been surfing a few times a year on rentals/ loaners. want to get a bit more serious about it now and get a board that i can turn a bit and get out past white water instead of just running straight in with the waves..

All comments/opinions on prices and board selection appreciated.....

kodute

I wouldn't buy any of their boards.

What are you vitals man?
Height/weight/fitness and most importantly how often would you get out surfing.

A lot of people here will recommend you get a longboard 9ft+ to increase your wave count and thus learning. In fact so would I...

spaceHopper

They are made in China which isn’t known for making the best surfboards in the world but that’s reflected in his prices – saying that I saw a guy out last weekend on a “shallow reef” board and it looked ok he was very happy with it and appeared to be holding up ok. You get what you pay for so if you buy one expect it to get pressure dings and if you knock it off anything expect it to damage easily so you’ll need to fix the odd ding but that’s part of the course. The epoxy board should be stronger than the polyester board, be worth calling them up and arranging to see on. Check some of the other shops and in the likes of 53 deg North they had long boards for an OK price ask…

I’m on the lookout for a long board and shop has one I’d go for except it’s made in China and it’s not reflected in the price

cpoh1

Forget that surfboards.ie crap and buy from a local irish shaper.

Ive had 4-5 boards shaped by Mark in powersource surfboards up in leitrim/sligo over the years and he is great to deal with. Cheap, quality blanks and workmanship and he gives good advice and takes time to talk people through the shaping process.

I honestly cant understand people new to surfing buying cheap knockoff boards built in a factory in china at irish prices instead of getting aboard made over here for the same price but with 5x build quality and input into the design so you get exaclty what you want and need.

Glidesurfboards in cork/limerick is another guy i have heard good stuff about if you are not based close to the nw.

rodento

When looking at the boards try to find out how light the glass is. The lighter the glass the no responsive the board but they are also more likely to get pressure and break, FCS fin plugs are the most likely to go...

Anyway unless your a pro a decent glass job will offer your board some protection from Irish Breaks and most dings will happen getting in/out of the water

cpoh1

spaceHopper wrote: »

Have to break it to you but most Power Source boards are made Chian now, Mark McGuire shapes under MMD now and license Power Source

http://www.powersourcesurfboards.com/

I dont know what you are trying to say to be honest. MMD/powersource are the exact same label and all his boards are shaped in Leitrim. Last board he made me 2 months ago had the powersource logo on the bottom and MMD on the deck. McGuire designs is another one of his logos he uses.

cpoh1

rodento wrote: »

When looking at the boards try to find out how light the glass is. The lighter the glass the no responsive the board but they are also more likely to get pressure and break, FCS fin plugs are the most likely to go...

Anyway unless your a pro a decent glass job will offer your board some protection from Irish Breaks and most dings will happen getting in/out of the water

Less glass = lighter board = better flotation in the water, response has nothing to do with it.

FlashD

aquaman wrote: »

Been surfing a few times a year on rentals/ loaners. want to get a bit more serious about it now and get a board that i can turn a bit and get out past white water instead of just running straight in with the waves..

All comments/opinions on prices and board selection appreciated.....

9+ longboard is the best option, buy secondhand if you are starting out or only getting out a few times a year, you'll find used logs on adverts.ie, gumtree.ie, irishsurfer.com, longboardireland.com, secondhandboards.com, ebay.co.uk.

CRenegade

spaceHopper wrote: »

Had heard a roumour that he was getting boards made in China, shop in bundoran have one for sale that I might have bought so I asked them straight and they told me its from china, so he's getting at least some made there.

What are his prices like for a shaped longboard ball park? I'd get one made here with a good blank and glass job - don't want something made in asia with cheapest lowest quality blank and only half the cloth.

I was just up with Mark over the last two weekends trying out boards and chatting to him about a new one. He is custom making a new board for me and should have it in a couple of weeks. I was in his workshop and he has all the equipment there for making boards. He showed me around all the different equipment and what he does.

Spacehopper be careful about what you say and be sure it is correct as its the reputation of a mans business your messing with if your wrong.

spaceHopper

CRenegade wrote: »

I was just up with Mark over the last two weekends trying out boards and chatting to him about a new one. He is custom making a new board for me and should have it in a couple of weeks. I was in his workshop and he has all the equipment there for making boards. He showed me around all the different equipment and what he does.

Spacehopper be careful about what you say and be sure it is correct as its the reputation of a mans business your messing with if your wrong.

Ask him when you collect the board. Again what's his prices like for a custom longboard?

For the record I know he's a good shaper think he's just getting stock boards made in china to compete with ones brought in by other people.
I can ordera 9'6 in the UK like this http://www.littlepinkshop.com/shop/elua-makani-6inch-custom-longboard-surfboard-p-240.html bit it's made in china too.

At the end of the day it's a local label on a board so if there is a problem you have somebody to go back to. But still I wouldn't pay full price for a board from asia. I'd love a surf tech but think they are over priced.

rodento

Does mark do hand crafted custom shapes these days or are his customs done by a shaping machine

CRenegade

rodento wrote: »

Does mark do hand crafted custom shapes these days or are his customs done by a shaping machine

I think we may be hi-jacking the original posters thread here!

Anyways I dont know if he still does hand crafted but he does have a shaping machine, i guess this gets the general shape and rest done by hand? I personally wont know loads about it so may be wrong.

Spacehopper: not sure of price of Longboard, defo starting over €500 as My 6'8" fish starts at €445 before add ons.

spaceHopper

rodento wrote: »

Does mark do hand crafted custom shapes these days or are his customs done by a shaping machine

Makes no difference to the “average Joe” once he uses good blanks and does a good glass job. The machine takes his design, tweaked to suit the customers height, weight, ability where they will surf….. and does the outline shaping. The board still has to be hand finished, fine sanding and rails….

WaxOn use one so does Seven in Kerry

Mickeroo

if it's handcrafted you want and have a bit of cash to spare what about one of these? http://www.cedarsurfboards.com/

bit pricey but they look great.

glide

wow i need to raise my prices, im cheaper than all of them!
and all handshapes!

spaceHopper

Mickeroo wrote: »

if it's handcrafted you want and have a bit of cash to spare what about one of these? http://www.cedarsurfboards.com/

bit pricey but they look great.

Sweet looking boards would give my left nut for one but I'd be afraid to take it out it'd be in bits in no timed

rodento

spaceHopper wrote: »

Sweet looking boards would give my left nut for one but I'd be afraid to take it out it'd be in bits in no timed

Guess your surfing ...... But we won't go there

Enygma

AOR (http://www.aorsurfboards.com) in Kerry also works with Cedar (and other timbers). I've got a 6'6 with a cedar perimeter stringer from him and it's the dogs bollox. Most of my boards are in bits, I took the wax off this board recently and it looks like brand new, couldn't believe it. Surfs like a magic board too. I'd highly recommend him.

I think he's got a cedar fish for sale at the moment too. I know he's got a pile of cedar anyway just waiting to be turned into boards.

Mickeroo

glide wrote: »

wow i need to raise my prices, im cheaper than all of them!
and all handshapes!

Really? you have a website?

Enygma wrote: »

AOR (http://www.aorsurboards.com) in Kerry also works with Cedar (and other timbers). I've got a 6'6 with a cedar perimeter stringer from him and it's the dogs bollox. Most of my boards are in bits, I took the wax off this board recently and it looks like brand new, couldn't believe it. Surfs like a magic board too. I'd highly recommend him.

I think he's got a cedar fish for sale at the moment too. I know he's got a pile of cedar anyway just waiting to be turned into boards.

His boards look sweet.

glide

Mickeroo wrote: »

Really? you have a website?

yeah here you go.

http://allthingsglide.blogspot.com/
www.glidesurfboards.net

will3k

Got myself a Glide longboard recently, I'm delighted with it.
Sound man to deal with, and such good value.
I was literally stunned at how good the board turned out, a real artist, was nearly a shame to wax it........ nearly!!

Paul, I hope to be back for one of your sweet fishs when I can

cpoh1

spaceHopper wrote: »

Had heard a roumour that he was getting boards made in China, shop in bundoran have one for sale that I might have bought so I asked them straight and they told me its from china, so he's getting at least some made there.

What are his prices like for a shaped longboard ball park? I'd get one made here with a good blank and glass job - don't want something made in asia with cheapest lowest quality blank and only half the cloth.

Check his prices on the website.

You are 100% incorrect about the china "rumour" by the way, and as one other poster mentioned it doesnt do a mans reputation any favours when rubbish like that is posted. There's a reason irelands best surfers are ripping on his boards.

Boards like rusty, al merrick etc are all machine shapes hand finished, its pretty common with nearly all shapers these days, at least with an irish shaper you are getting a board for up to 30% cheaper and you have input into the design.

I would personally go to mark in powersource for a shortboard and glide for a longboard/retro board if i was in the market.

spaceHopper

cpoh1 wrote: »

Check his prices on the website.

You are 100% incorrect

To be fair I've deleted two of my posts, can't do anything about quotes but when you pick up the new board ask.
I was told by the shop that the board I was asking about wasn't Irish, other wise a would go for it. Have query in with a shaper here about a longboard.

keryl

How does one know where to go after using a beginners board? I would like to try a smaller board (currently using an 8) or at least a board that is less 'awkward' but still suits a beginner.

CRenegade

keryl wrote: »

How does one know where to go after using a beginners board? I would like to try a smaller board (currently using an 8) or at least a board that is less 'awkward' but still suits a beginner.

I'm in the process of down sizing from a 7'7" NSP to a 6'8" fish.

How long are your surfing? You getting out much?

If your not ready yet for a proper short board then a fish maybe the way to go. They are wider and more forgiving than a proper short board but you can still do plenty with them.

You have obivoulsy done all you can with your beginnner 8 foot board then?

spaceHopper

keryl wrote: »

How does one know where to go after using a beginners board? I would like to try a smaller board (currently using an 8) or at least a board that is less 'awkward' but still suits a beginner.

An 8 ft board shouldn't be awkward what board do you have and why do you not like it. If you haven't mastered getting out the back 90% of the time and catching green waves and turning then getting a "different" board might not be so wise - un less your current board is unsitable for you in someway.

keryl

CRenegade wrote: »

I'm in the process of down sizing from a 7'7" NSP to a 6'8" fish.

How long are your surfing? You getting out much?

If your not ready yet for a proper short board then a fish maybe the way to go. They are wider and more forgiving than a proper short board but you can still do plenty with them.

You have obivoulsy done all you can with your beginnner 8 foot board then?

Thanks for the reply

Well I go out as long as there's a swell;) usually 4+ times a week, getting as much practice as possible. Surfing just over 3 months. I only have this board for another month so I'm just looking ahead at what I would like to buy when it's gone and I'd rather move forward rather than back. I turn left and right on the board and feel comfortable but sometimes feel it's awkward to move or gain speed down the line. I'm by no means overly confident but the board has worked well for me and probably it's buoyancy has complimented me a lot. I have been looking at the other threads and everyone seems to say that the fish are a nice step down from a beginners board in that they have a wider build like the beginner board but offer more speed and movement.

spaceHopper

keryl wrote: »

Thanks for the reply

Well I go out as long as there's a swell;) usually 4+ times a week, getting as much practice as possible. Surfing just over 3 months. I only have this board for another month so I'm just looking ahead at what I would like to buy when it's gone and I'd rather move forward rather than back. I turn left and right on the board and feel comfortable but sometimes feel it's awkward to move or gain speed down the line. I'm by no means overly confident but the board has worked well for me and probably it's buoyancy has complimented me a lot. I have been looking at the other threads and everyone seems to say that the fish are a nice step down from a beginners board in that they have a wider build like the beginner board but offer more speed and movement.

Every one who say's that is selling a fish, keep doing what you are doing and see if you borrow boards from friends to try as many different boards as you can then see what you like.

aquaman

kodute wrote: »

I wouldn't buy any of their boards.

What are you vitals man?
Height/weight/fitness and most importantly how often would you get out surfing.

A lot of people here will recommend you get a longboard 9ft+ to increase your wave count and thus learning. In fact so would I...

Thanks For the reply... I took some of the advice (avoid surfboards.ie) but ignored the rest (go for 9' longboard) I purchased an 7'10" escape nxr epoxy mini-mal on Tuesday, took it out in tramore last night and am delighted with my purchase..
I was afraid that at over 6' tall this might be slightly too small a board for my level but last night I caught nearly every (messy) wave I went for..

- Next stage learn how to turn left

Thanks everyone for the replies. I know the thread took its own path but was interesting reading none the less..

Aquaman

spaceHopper

- Next stage learn how to turn left

Look and point where you want to go it'll shift your weight and help the board trun. Also angle you paddeling a bit in the direction you want to trun.

PS all escape boards are made in ....... i don't know think the UK, see a good few and they hold up well - enjoy the new board.

aquaman

spaceHopper wrote: »

Look and point where you want to go it'll shift your weight and help the board trun. Also angle you paddeling a bit in the direction you want to trun.

PS all escape boards are made in ....... i don't know think the UK, see a good few and they hold up well - enjoy the new board.

Respect.. I shall try that. Right turning is way easier. I was the same learning to ski!

I think they are made in Cornwall/China...... debate ensues ha

keryl

spaceHopper wrote: »

Every one who say's that is selling a fish, keep doing what you are doing and see if you borrow boards from friends to try as many different boards as you can then see what you like.

Thanks for the help, yeah it's the best option. Would use the board longer but only have it for another month and don't really want to purchase a beginner board again and then after a few months want to get a more suitable board.

Mickeroo

aquaman wrote: »

- Next stage learn how to turn left

Evey surfer starts out like Derek Zoolander :P

spaceHopper

keryl wrote: »

Thanks for the help, yeah it's the best option. Would use the board longer but only have it for another month and don't really want to purchase a beginner board again and then after a few months want to get a more suitable board.

Keep an eye out on gumtree, done deal, adverts and irishsurfer there's boards poping up all the time, you'll get something for about 250 and sell it again for 200 if you don't abuse it. Don't be shy about putting up a wanted add. What you want is something like a 7'6 min mal by 21 22 inches wide , a narrow board is twitchiey and hard to pop up on. I've never surfed a fish but to me they have a place in weaker summer waves. If you see a good longboad going cheap grab it you'll have a ball. There was one guy selling 3 boards all under 100 on done deal last week one was a snapped and fixed longboard with a bag got 50 the bag alone was worth that and for a beinner who cares if it was snapped and fixed.

aongo

why are people always so keen to get rid of so-called "beginner" boards all the time?

if know anything about surfing's history, it was australian nat young that was involved in introducing the "short board" to america in the 60's and that was just shy of 9' long! up to that people experimented, but the general trend was boards of 9 - 14' long - men, women and children rode them and as documented by photogs Ron Stoner, Leroy Grannis etc. they f*cking ripped on them from mellow malibu to drop-in and die wiamea and sunset

it doesn't matter what board your are on, you will never fully master it, and that goes for everyone from kelly slater to the person just after their first lesson - there is always bigger, deeper, faster, longer etc... etc...

- you can spend the rest of your life charging on that battered bic, take-off, 18 carot gold, diamond encrusted al merrick hand-delivered by the man himself or what-ever the hell board you're on now and as your surfing progresses, your board (as long it stays in one piece) will be there for you to do it on... the quicker that one realises that that THE LIMIT TO MY SURFING PROGRESSION IS NOT MY BOARD, IT IS ME the happier you'll be...

but by all means support your local shaper if you need a new one!

keryl

I'm not getting rid of it, I just won't have it after next month. I would gladly use it as long as possible until I really need to upgrade. It's not a case of blaming the board, it's like a footballer wanting Predators, if your no good, the boot won't do anything for you.
I just need to know what to get when I have to purchase a board in two months time.

Thanks Spacehopper, I'll just try a few boards out but I think something like the 7'6 might be best, I don't want to jump too far and stop my progress.

spaceHopper

keryl wrote: »

I'm not getting rid of it, I just won't have it after next month. I would gladly use it as long as possible until I really need to upgrade. It's not a case of blaming the board, it's like a footballer wanting Predators, if your no good, the boot won't do anything for you.
I just need to know what to get when I have to purchase a board in two months time.

Thanks Spacehopper, I'll just try a few boards out but I think something like the 7'6 might be best, I don't want to jump too far and stop my progress.

http://www.adverts.ie/252122/water-sports/hifly-7-10-surfboard-for-sale/

Offer no more than 220

rodento

their repair service isn't busy for no reason:eek:

BGOllie

glide wrote: »

wow i need to raise my prices, im cheaper than all of them!
and all handshapes!

+1 ...and those last few ones you finished are pure gems !!