Meath County Board Meeting Tonight

Yahooaccount

I believe the Meath county board are meeting tonight to discuss yesterday's "win" They will discuss the possibility of offering the replay, which would be the noble thing to do, or they can send the case on to the CCC. I just saw it there on that facebook page that's been set up for it. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001309686045&ref=ts#!/profile.php?id=100001294686790&v=wall

I'm a neutral and even I know that Louth should be awarded a replay. There is no doubt that Louth are the true Leinster Champions.

Pegasusbridge

Meath won. Louth Lost. That's sport. Don't play if you can't deal with it.

event

ah jaysus, a FB page?

this is getting embarrassing

amacachi

Meath should offer and Louth should turn it down. That should be an end of it from the counties' point of view and the referee should be dealt with seperately.

RoadKillTs

You know its serious when they setup a FB page. Like some poxy petition will make any difference. :rolleyes:

BenK

I'm not really sure if they should offer a replay. It would open up a can of worms. Meath could claim that Louth won a few questionable frees during the game too... And if they were going to do anything about it, surely Louth should be awarded the win seeing as they were winning at the time of the incident!

existential

Meath really have very little choice they have been pushed into a corner over this and I'd say they've very little choice but to offer a replay. If they decide not to offer a replay it will reflect badly on them and they'll be keen to avoid the negativity that will come their way as a result I'd imagine. Anyway I'm sure they'll want to prove they can win it without dodgy decisions, yesterdays was a hollow win for them.

doncarlos

amacachi wrote: »

Meath should offer and Louth should turn it down. That should be an end of it from the counties' point of view and the referee should be dealt with seperately.

I'd like to see this happen along with the Ref getting banned from refereeing inter-county games. At least we would feel some sort of justice in Louth.

Royal Seahawk

existential wrote: »

Meath really have very little choice they have been pushed into a corner over this and I'd say they've very little choice but to offer a replay. If they decide not to offer a replay it will reflect badly on them and they'll be keen to avoid the negativity that will come their way as a result I'd imagine. Anyway I'm sure they'll want to prove they can win it without dodgy decisions, yesterdays was a hollow win for them.

Do you think think we give a flying fcuk what any other county thinks of us?
Meath Chairman Barney Allen sent an email to all club chairmen this morning informing them of a full programme of local fixtures commencing next weekend due to Meath not playing now for another 3 weeks. Brilliant.

I also believe they should propose a motion to have Louth expelled from the remainder of the championship due to the actions of their players and supporters yesterday.

Atomic Pineapple

Most Meath people want a replay but as Benk has stated if they do and it goes ahead it could prove a real headache for future games.

And people seem to be forgetting that Louth got 2 points from free kicks that clearly shouldn't have been given and were given several more that they failed to convert which were very very dubious.

If those decisions where to be reversed too then Meath would have actually been winning by a point at the time of the incident.

rpurfield

meath county board aren't meeting tonight to discuss offering a replay meath county board are meeting tonight because they meet every second monday at this busy time of year for gaelic games.if wed have won by ten points there still would be a meeting tonight

doncarlos

draffodx wrote: »

Most Meath people want a replay but as Benk has stated if they do and it goes ahead it could prove a real headache for future games.

And people seem to be forgetting that Louth got 2 points from free kicks that clearly shouldn't have been given and were given several more that they failed to convert which were very very dubious.

If those decisions where to be reversed too then Meath would have actually been winning by a point at the time of the incident.

Meath got a few dodgy frees too. One right in front of us in the second half that the ref blew up and nobody in the stand both Louth or Meath fans could understand why. Dubious frees are one thing but one of the worst decisions in the history of the GAA is another.

Barname

Yahooaccount wrote: »

I believe the Meath county board are meeting tonight to discuss yesterday's "win" They will discuss the possibility of offering the replay, which would be the noble thing to do, or they can send the case on to the CCC. I just saw it there on that facebook page that's been set up for it. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001309686045&ref=ts#!/profile.php?id=100001294686790&v=wall

I'm a neutral and even I know that Louth should be awarded a replay. There is no doubt that Louth are the true Leinster Champions.

the whining is grating

facebook ! ha, obviously set up by someone who has zero clue how the GAA and County Boards operate and conduct their business.

Facebook ! laughable

Dionysus

draffodx wrote: »

Most Meath people want a replay.

This is true, at least from the paltry number of Meath people I know: family, friends etc.

Offering a replay tonight would be the honourable thing to do, even though it will not please many Louth people who, understandably, believe they should have the Leinster title without a replay.

And - nobody has said this yet - if the football is as good as yesterday's game then it would be a great match for football fans (as opposed to the "Meath fans" or the "Louth fans").

Royal Seahawk

Barname wrote: »

the whining is grating

facebook ! ha, obviously set up by someone who has zero clue how the GAA and County Boards operate and conduct their business.

Facebook ! laughable

I know, it's getting ridiculous. Between yesterday's disgraceful scenes and now all this whinging Louth Gaa fans don't look too good at all.

Barname

Royal Seahawk wrote: »

I know, it's getting ridiculous. Between yesterday's disgraceful scenes and now all this whinging Louth Gaa fans don't look too good at all.

please hand us the Sam Maguire or we will cry like babies and call Joe Duffy.

event

Royal Seahawk wrote: »

Do you think think we give a flying fcuk what any other county thinks of us?
Meath Chairman Barney Allen sent an email to all club chairmen this morning informing them of a full programme of local fixtures commencing next weekend due to Meath not playing now for another 3 weeks. Brilliant.

I also believe they should propose a motion to have Louth expelled from the remainder of the championship due to the actions of their players and supporters yesterday.

keep banging that drum

doncarlos

Dionysus wrote: »

Offering a replay tonight would be the honourable thing to do, even though it will not please many Louth people who, understandably, believe they should have the Leinster title without a replay.
.

It probably would be the honourable thing to do, but it isn't fair on the county board, fans and players of Meath who have done nothing wrong. Yes a replay would not please me as a Louth man as we should have won the Leinster but there is only one man responsible for this and that's the referee.
Even if there was a replay and Louth won it it wouldn't feel right. The best thing is for both county boards to move on.

dids6457

Royal Seahawk wrote: »

Do you think think we give a flying fcuk what any other county thinks of us?
Meath Chairman Barney Allen sent an email to all club chairmen this morning informing them of a full programme of local fixtures commencing next weekend due to Meath not playing now for another 3 weeks. Brilliant.

I also believe they should propose a motion to have Louth expelled from the remainder of the championship due to the actions of their players and supporters yesterday.

Whether or not a replay is or isn't offered or should or shouldn't be I think its very over the top to suggest Louth should be 'expelled' due to the actions of a MINORITY of their fans who were overcome due to the complete magintude of how unfair the decision was.
Lets be honest here Louth were the better team and the decision was completely wrong, Louth were completely wronged so saying they should be expelled is total codswallop! The team have every right to state their grievances, the least we can do is let them have that! Their fans were wrong for the way they acted but a handful of fans should'nt be accounted for by the team who have trained 3/4 nights a week since January and have the Leinster title robbed from them! And I am a complete Neutral btw!

Royal Seahawk

dids6457 wrote: »

Whether or not a replay is or isn't offered or should or shouldn't be I think its very over the top to suggest Louth should be 'expelled' due to the actions of a MINORITY of their fans who were overcome due to the complete magintude of how unfair the decision was.
Lets be honest here Louth were the better team and the decision was completely wrong, Louth were completely wronged so saying they should be expelled is total codswallop! The team have every right to state their grievances, the least we can do is let them have that! Their fans were wrong for the way they acted but a handful of fans should'nt be accounted for by the team who have trained 3/4 nights a week since January and have the Leinster title robbed from them! And I am a complete Neutral btw!

It's a safety issue. It's clear to everyone that Louth fans aren't capable of controlling themselves on a big day out in Croke Park so rather than run the risk of someone getting seriously injured it would be best for all concerned if Louth were expelled from the rest of this year's championship.
It's the only way they'll learn unfortunatly and they only have themselves to blame. I for one would not feel safe bringing young kids to a big match in Croke Park involving Louth. To use the word animals to describe them would be a insult to animals.

dids6457

Royal Seahawk wrote: »

It's a safety issue. It's clear to everyone that Louth fans aren't capable of controlling themselves on a big day out in Croke Park so rather than run the risk of someone getting seriously injured it would be best for all concerned if Louth were expelled from the rest of this year's championship.
It's the only way they'll learn unfortunatly and they only have themselves to blame. I for one would not feel safe bringing young kids to a big match in Croke Park involving Louth. To use the word animals to describe them would be a insult to animals.

Isn't that very discriminatory? Can anyone categorically say that if what happened yesterday happened to their county team that their wouldn't be a minority of fans who would lose the head and act that way! Its not just Louth its every team, you will always get a few people reacting badly with a decision of that magnitude it is NOT the TEAMS fault and its ridiculous to think they would be punished for it! The Louth County Board will be fined as any other team would but thats all that should happen, they don't control fans.
If anyone should be 'expelled' it should be those minority of fans who acted so badly!

paulocon

dids6457 wrote: »

Isn't that very discriminatory? Can anyone categorically say that if what happened yesterday happened to their county team that their wouldn't be a minority of fans who would lose the head and act that way! Its not just Louth its every team, you will always get a few people reacting badly with a decision of that magnitude it is NOT the TEAMS fault and its ridiculous to think they would be punished for it! The Louth County Board will be fined as any other team would but thats all that should happen, they don't control fans.
If anyone should be 'expelled' it should be those minority of fans who acted so badly!

yer man Royal Seahawk is blatantly on a wind-up and it seems he is getting plenty to bite..

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I'm very very tempted to backseat mod here , as there doesn't seem to be a moderator available at the moment.

Royal Seahawk

For voicing my opinion? It's the way I feel, sorry. Watch this before you disagree with me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1khn0OxDLA

An Citeog

Royal Seahawk banned for a week for trolling.

20 Times 20 Times

An Citeog wrote: »

Royal Seahawk banned for a week for trolling.

I was sooooooooooooooooooo Tempted :-) thank you.

decboy

here it is from the GAA themselves, its up to Meath they say. I wonder what they'll decide to do.
from rte.ie
The statement said: 'The GAA confirms that the Referee's Report has been received and the referee has stated that he made a mistake in awarding the Meath goal. 'However, under GAA Rules, a re-fixture cannot be ordered as the Referee's report of the full time score is final.'
However, the statement did not rule out a replay should Meath offer to play one.

whatnext

decboy wrote: »

here it is from the GAA themselves, its up to Meath they say. I wonder what they'll decide to do.
from rte.ie
The statement said: 'The GAA confirms that the Referee's Report has been received and the referee has stated that he made a mistake in awarding the Meath goal. 'However, under GAA Rules, a re-fixture cannot be ordered as the Referee's report of the full time score is final.'
However, the statement did not rule out a replay should Meath offer to play one.

I hope that was a closed fist they used when passing the book

Atomic Pineapple

decboy wrote: »

here it is from the GAA themselves, its up to Meath they say. I wonder what they'll decide to do.
from rte.ie
The statement said: 'The GAA confirms that the Referee's Report has been received and the referee has stated that he made a mistake in awarding the Meath goal. 'However, under GAA Rules, a re-fixture cannot be ordered as the Referee's report of the full time score is final.'
However, the statement did not rule out a replay should Meath offer to play one.

I believe the Meath club fixtures have been cleared to be played for the next three weeks as the Meath national team wont be playing, so that would make me think the offer of a replay is not on the cards.

smashey

Sarge wrote: »

I was sooooooooooooooooooo Tempted :-) thank you.

Sarge, you need to calm down here. I've seen your posts in the reported post forum as well. As you well know, the mods are volunteers and can't be expected to be online all day. Also, gloating after somebody else has been banned is bad form. Take this as a warning.

derealbadger

Royal Seahawk wrote: »

Do you think think we give a flying fcuk what any other county thinks of us?
Meath Chairman Barney Allen sent an email to all club chairmen this morning informing them of a full programme of local fixtures commencing next weekend due to Meath not playing now for another 3 weeks. Brilliant.

I also believe they should propose a motion to have Louth expelled from the remainder of the championship due to the actions of their players and supporters yesterday.

when Meath start to take the high moral ground its time for everyone to be puttin on the waders IMO

20 Times 20 Times

smashey wrote: »

Sarge, you need to calm down here. I've seen your posts in the reported post forum as well. As you well know, the mods are volunteers and can't be expected to be online all day. Also, gloating after somebody else has been banned is bad form. Take this as a warning.

A warning for what ? I reported posts and gave reasons why they were reported , I have also noticed that i HAVE zero posts that have been reported. I have been very much on the fence in relation to the going ons of yesterday.

As for the gloating ? I said thank you to a moderator of a forum that i have been activity reading for allowing me to continue reading without the risk of trolls.

I take offence to your "warning" .

Hammer Archer

Can I ask, hopefully without sounding like a troll, why wouldn't the Louth county board be punished for the actions of their fans? I hate to draw a comparison with soccer, but if there is crowd trouble from fans of a club, the club itself is punished for failing to control it's fans as well as the fans themselves.
I'm not saying expel them, but how about at least a warning about their fans conduct in the future? And seeing the picture of Mark Ward getting punched, it's more than likely that the guy who did was a county player at present or at some stage in the recent past given the fact he had the number 13 on his back.

Again, I'm not trolling but surely something has to be done to stop something like this happening in the future.

And as another poster pointed out, the Meath CB meet every second Monday and a full club fixture list is scheduled next weekend so the chances of a replay are roughly zero. Thank God.

teednab-el

I wouldnt expect anything unusual like the words "replay" to come out of the Meath County Board meeting. Meath will come out the worst out of this though if they continue on without asking for a replay. It will be like France in the world cup.

Daysha

Sarge wrote: »

A warning for what ? I reported posts and gave reasons why they were reported , I have also noticed that i HAVE zero posts that have been reported. I have been very much on the fence in relation to the going ons of yesterday.

As for the gloating ? I said thank you to a moderator of a forum that i have been activity reading for allowing me to continue reading without the risk of trolls.

I take offence to your "warning" .

Well you've just broken one of the first rules of boards, namely arguing with a moderators decision in the thread (not to mention off-topic posting as well), so consider this your last "warning".

Hammer Archer

teednab-el wrote: »

I wouldnt expect anything unusual like the words "replay" to come out of the Meath County Board meeting. Meath will come out the worst out of this though if they continue on without asking for a replay. It will be like France in the world cup.

Do you really think we care what other counties think about us? Every county in Ireland hated us before this so it's not exactly gonna change much.

teednab-el

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Do you really think we care what other counties think about us? Every county in Ireland hated us before this so it's not exactly gonna change much.

You dont need me to tell you why. Well lets just say the Kerrys Corks and Tyrones wont have any mercy for Meath if we do get the chance to play you. Hand back the trophy would be the correct decision and replay the game. I cant believe you would celebrate such a victory.

Pegasusbridge

teednab-el wrote: »

Well lets just say the Kerrys Corks and Tyrones wont have any mercy for Meath if we do get the chance to play you .

Otherwise they would have taken it easy on us?

NufcNavan

teednab-el wrote: »

You dont need me to tell you why. Well lets just say the Kerrys Corks and Tyrones wont have any mercy for Meath if we do get the chance to play you. Hand back the trophy would be the correct decision and replay the game. I cant believe you would celebrate such a victory.

Kerry, Tyrone and Cork are bad enough on their own, never mind being multiplied. :rolleyes:

Hammer Archer

teednab-el wrote: »

You dont need me to tell you why. Well lets just say the Kerrys Corks and Tyrones wont have any mercy for Meath if we do get the chance to play you. Hand back the trophy would be the correct decision and replay the game. I cant believe you would celebrate such a victory.

So the Meath - Tyrone game in 2007 was Tyrone showing us mercy was it? Seriously, the teams you mentioned have so much more to dislike us for than us beating Louth in a Leinster final. Are you saying Kilkenny should hand back the hurling title last year for receiving a dodgy penalty? What about the Wexford - Galway game on Saturday? Wexford got a penalty that never should have been given and went on to win by a point. Should that be replayed? No of course not, because the so called "weaker county" got the benefit of the call. Referees make mistakes and every single team has had them go for and against them. It is not the referee's fault that Louth missed so many simple frees towards the end to make the game safe.
Do you honestly think that you would be on here clamouring for a replay had Louth won in the same circumstances yesterday. I'm willing to bet the chances are somewhere between slim and none.
I really don't know why I'm even bothering to reply to you.

Diabhal Beag

teednab-el wrote: »

You dont need me to tell you why. Well lets just say the Kerrys Corks and Tyrones wont have any mercy for Meath if we do get the chance to play you. Hand back the trophy would be the correct decision and replay the game. I cant believe you would celebrate such a victory.

What Meath have to worry about is risking a Leinster Title just to be good sports. That isn't fair and I won't blame them if nothing comes from the meeting. Imagine the sh1tstorm that will brew if they lose the "replay".

dromdrom

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

What Meath have to worry about is risking a Leinster Title just to be good sports. That isn't fair and I won't blame them if nothing comes from the meeting. Imagine the sh1tstorm that will brew if they lose the "replay".

Is a Leinster title worth that much? on the basis of yesterdays performance they may not be progressing much beyond the quarter finals as it stands, an extra game against Louth next week could well help them get that bit of sharpness.

existential

dromdrom wrote: »

Is a Leinster title worth that much? on the basis of yesterdays performance they may not be progressing much beyond the quarter finals as it stands, an extra game against Louth next week could well help them get that bit of sharpness.

I think Louth are realistic enough to know they aren't going to win any All-Irelands. Winning Leinster clearly means a huge amount to their players and fans alike, and that would be their All-Ireland if you like. And why not they haven't won it in over 50 years.

Edit just realised you were talking about Meath. A Leinster would surely mean a lot to their fans aswell. They are hard come by with Dublin so dominant in the last few years

Diabhal Beag

dromdrom wrote: »

Is a Leinster title worth that much? on the basis of yesterdays performance they may not be progressing much beyond the quarter finals as it stands, an extra game against Louth next week could well help them get that bit of sharpness.

Yea it is. Dublin aren't always going to be having such drastic panel changes. Once they get experience they will be back to winning Leinster titles. It could be Meath's last Leinster title for a while.

ayup

As a total neutral

I would be very surprised if a county like Meath don't do the decent thing and offer louth a replay.
time will tell...

baldbear

Anyone see the news? Marty Morrissey was outside the meeting in Navan.
Its going to go on for a a few hours yet.
He said theres a couple of ex Meath players trying to get the replay. Long discussions ahead i'd say.

Shane732

Hammer Archer wrote: »

So the Meath - Tyrone game in 2007 was Tyrone showing us mercy was it? Seriously, the teams you mentioned have so much more to dislike us for than us beating Louth in a Leinster final. Are you saying Kilkenny should hand back the hurling title last year for receiving a dodgy penalty? What about the Wexford - Galway game on Saturday? Wexford got a penalty that never should have been given and went on to win by a point. Should that be replayed? No of course not, because the so called "weaker county" got the benefit of the call. Referees make mistakes and every single team has had them go for and against them. It is not the referee's fault that Louth missed so many simple frees towards the end to make the game safe.
Do you honestly think that you would be on here clamouring for a replay had Louth won in the same circumstances yesterday. I'm willing to bet the chances are somewhere between slim and none.
I really don't know why I'm even bothering to reply to you.

You sir deserve a medal....

There would hardly be a word about this whole thing if Meath had been on the receiving end of what happened yesterday.

There's a group of people deciding on whether Meath should offer a replay tonight. On the one hand they are almost being pushed into it with people like Pat Spillane spouting on.

Why should Meath offer a replay? The aftermath of the match was ridiculous, even ignoring what happened to the ref. <snip>

Not only that but the reaction of some of the Louth players in the aftermath was deplorable.

I feel the Meath board will offer a replay just as other counties such as Cork, Tyrone, Kerry, Dublin etc... would - as Meath (and the other counties named) are a county who have pride in the GAA they play - Louth on the other hand do not. This is shown in the actions of at least four of the Louth players reactions after the match. For the people on here who have kept saying that only a tiny minority of the Louth supporters acted inappropriately I think you'll find that at least four out of team acting in such a manner is not a tiny minority. For even one supporter/player to act how they did is deplorable and absolutely no excuses should be made.

Mod edit: Boards.ie isn't the place for unsubstantiated rumours.

KERSPLAT!

Im not sure if they'll offer one or not.. like an earlier poster said, this will open a whole can of worms if a replay is offered.
If Joe scored a legit goal and it was disallowed, would Louth offer a replay??? Doubt it, Ifs and buts will get us no where,

I was at the match yesterday and left as soon as I saw the goal (sittin right at the goals, Davin end )I havent seen 1 single
Meath fan celabrating the win like we did in 2001. It was an empty win but still a win

On a side note I wouldnt blame any of the Meath team for this..it was down to the ref and umpires, thats why they are there!!

WinstonSmith

Shane732 wrote: »

Not only that but the reaction of some of the Louth players in the aftermath was deplorable.

Shane732 wrote: »

I think you'll find that at least four out of team acting in such a manner is not a tiny minority.

Provide evidence of Louth players who verbally or physically attacked any player, supporter or official after the final whistle was blown.
If you can't, then shut up!

Berti Vogts

Shane732 wrote: »

You sir deserve a medal....

There would hardly be a word about this whole thing if Meath had been on the receiving end of what happened yesterday.

There's a group of people deciding on whether Meath should offer a replay tonight. On the one hand they are almost being pushed into it with people like Pat Spillane spouting on.

Why should Meath offer a replay? The aftermath of the match was ridiculous, even ignoring what happened to the ref. What happened to Sean Boylan is just completely wrong - Boylan is one of the most admirable GAA men around, if not the most admirable. Say whatever you like about Meath teams of past but Boylan has always been a complete gentleman both in victory and in defeat. There's very few people even from Dublin that I know who don't admire Boylan. For someone to be so disrespectful to Boylan makes my blood boil. That person should be named and shamed not to mention banned for life from anything that looks like a GAA pitch.

I think you'd find that if Boylan had been on the losing side of what happened yesterday he wouldn't have been making comments like the Louth manager. The whole affair would be over now and the team would be showing up tomorrow night for training as normal.

Not only that but the reaction of some of the Louth players in the aftermath was deplorable.

I feel the Meath board will offer a replay just as other counties such as Cork, Tyrone, Kerry, Dublin etc... would - as Meath (and the other counties named) are a county who have pride in the GAA they play - Louth on the other hand do not. This is shown in the actions of at least four of the Louth players reactions after the match. For the people on here who have kept saying that only a tiny minority of the Louth supporters acted inappropriately I think you'll find that at least four out of team acting in such a manner is not a tiny minority. For even one supporter/player to act how they did is deplorable and absolutely no excuses should be made.

4 out of 25,000 equals 0.016%. Not a tiny minority?

Nobody is making excuses for what happened but the reality is that every county has a few idiots and to suggest that Louth is any worse than any other county is just childish.

Shane732

WinstonSmith wrote: »

Provide evidence of Louth players who verbally or physically attacked any player, supporter or official after the final whistle was blown.
If you can't, then shut up!

There you go - now shut up.