Lowry up to 88 in World

slumped

New world rankings show Shane Lowry up to 88 in world, with top 100 getting into USPGA, he looks good to qualify.

Darren Clarke up to 104.

McDowell also up to 11th.

Well done Shane.

http://dps.twiihosting.net/wgr/doc/content/archive/2010/owgr28f2010.pdf

charlieIRL

Excellent result for him at the weekend considering the strong field. Well done.

Was shocked to see the list of top players who didn't make the cut.

Trampas

Conno will be delighted for him

aster99

He's doing well. Followed him for a few holes in Adare and was impressed.

Speak Now

slumped wrote: »

New world rankings show Shane Lowry up to 88 in world, with top 100 getting into USPGA, he looks good to qualify.

Darren Clarke up to 104.

McDowell also up to 11th.

Well done Shane.

http://dps.twiihosting.net/wgr/doc/content/archive/2010/owgr28f2010.pdf

List of qualification criteria:

• All former PGA Champions.
• Winners of the last five U.S. Opens.
• Winners of the last five Masters.
• Winners of the last five Open Championships.
• The last senior PGA champion
• The low 15 scorers and ties in the previous PGA Championship.
• The 20 low scorers in the last PGA Professional National Championship.
• The 70 leaders in official money standings on the PGA Tour (starting one week prior to the previous year's PGA Championship and ending two weeks prior to the current year's PGA Championship).
• Members of the most recent United States Ryder cupTeam.
• Winners of tournaments co-sponsored or approved by the PGA Tour since the previous PGA Championship (does not include pro-am and team competitions).
• The PGA of America reserves the right to invite additional players not included in the categories listed above.
• The total field is a maximum of 156 players. Vacancies are filled by the first available player from the list of alternates (those below 70th place in official money standings).

Nothing in their Criteria about the top 100 in the world rankings getting a spot but they do like to say they have the strongest field of all 4 majors so the one highlighted above could get Lowry in as long as they there's not an unusal amount in the top 100 not hitting any of the other criteria.

Kace

Fair play to him.

After watching the performance he put in during the closing holes of the Irish Open last year in that pissing rain, freezing cold, driving wind, and then grinding out the win, he really showed that he is a strong performer that will make it on tour.

Henry Ford III

He's too fat to go much higher in those rankings. Needs to shed 2 or 3 stone.

aster99

I reckon he'll be in the top 30 this time next year.

BUACHAILL

Henry Ford III wrote: »

He's too fat to go much higher in those rankings. Needs to shed 2 or 3 stone.

what an idiotic statement to make !!

charlieIRL

Henry Ford III wrote: »

He's too fat to go much higher in those rankings. Needs to shed 2 or 3 stone.

Ahh now come on. Look at Paul guydos? (spelling?)

I'd expect that type of statement from conno!!!

Henry Ford III

BUACHAILL wrote: »

what an idiotic statement to make !!

How many world top 20 players are overweight?

BUACHAILL

Henry Ford III wrote: »

How many world top 20 players are overweight?

They are not all ripped athletes!!

mickelson,westwood,cabrera,mcdowell,goosen and plenty more carry a little weight not as much as Lowry but that doesnt mean he isnt capable of getting to top 20, ridiculous comment

BiffoGooner

Henry Ford III wrote: »

How many world top 20 players are overweight?

Phil Mickelson.Lee Westwood's getting fairly tubby again.Ernie Els.Graeme McDowell.

Honourable mentions to Miguel Angel, Kenny Perry and Angel Cabrera.Not too shabby, them lads


Edit: Beat me to it Buachaill!

heavyballs

BUACHAILL wrote: »

They are not all ripped athletes!!

mickelson,westwood,cabrera,mcdowell,goosen and plenty more carry a little weight not as much as Lowry but that doesnt mean he isnt capable of getting to top 20, ridiculous comment

check them out in the flesh and they are all fit as f**k,forget about his weight for a min,he's done great but those rankings are very questionable,he will not go much higher imo,also how can you compare a 23 year old to the above,he should be in better shape,end of,would it improve his game,who knows,might actually damage it

btw Goosen is one fit c***,

BUACHAILL

Never said any of them were unfit, they are all very fit, I said some of them carried a little weight and there is a huge difference !! I said not all of them were ripped and I stand by that, rather not see them in the flesh thanks. It wasnt me either who originally compared I was asked a question and I think I answered it. Agree Lowry is only 23 and should be maybe in better shape and maybe losing a few pounds would help his game drastically or as you pointed out might destroy his game.
Doesnt take away from that fact that suggesting someone will not climb the world rankings unless he loses 2-3 stone is a stupid bloody comment to make !! I think we should support our own a bit more and to be honest slagging a kid off for having weight on him because we cant pick on anything else with him is starting to get very boring let alone immature !! Just my opinion but I think he has done brilliant and hope he continues to prove people wrong, but these will be the same people who will get behind him if and when he does something special....typical irish

thegen

BUACHAILL wrote: »

what an idiotic statement to make !!

Can't agree more, iscthat Conno's mate????

the groutch

alot of work to hold that ranking tho, last year's irish open win is losing it's weighting very quickly

heavyballs

BUACHAILL wrote: »

Never said any of them were unfit, they are all very fit, I said some of them carried a little weight and there is a huge difference !! I said not all of them were ripped and I stand by that, rather not see them in the flesh thanks. It wasnt me either who originally compared I was asked a question and I think I answered it. Agree Lowry is only 23 and should be maybe in better shape and maybe losing a few pounds would help his game drastically or as you pointed out might destroy his game.
Doesnt take away from that fact that suggesting someone will not climb the world rankings unless he loses 2-3 stone is a stupid bloody comment

there's no maybe about it,anyway i'm in agreement,the other comment made was stupid,i was just making the comment that the telly doesn't do these players justice,my main point re Lowery wasn't about weight,i don't think he's good enough,i hope as an Irishman i'm allowed to say that or am i being a typical begrudging Paddy

BUACHAILL

the groutch wrote: »

alot of work to hold that ranking tho, last year's irish open win is losing it's weighting very quickly

Yeah couldnt agree more it needs hard work but he has achieved a lot of it since going pro, its his first year give him a chance he is coming right !!

thegen

heavyballs wrote: »

there's no maybe about it,anyway i'm in agreement,the other comment made was stupid,i was just making the comment that the telly doesn't do these players justice,my main point re Lowery wasn't about weight,i don't think he's good enough,i hope as an Irishman i'm allowed to say that or am i being a typical begrudging Paddy

Just a begrudger, great ball striker and his win in Baltray was special.

heavyballs

thegen wrote: »

Just a begrudger, great ball striker and his win in Baltray was special.

cheers,so i have to pretend that imo he's a much better player just because he's Irish,now that makes loads of sense:rolleyes::rolleyes:

thegen

heavyballs wrote: »

cheers,so i have to pretend that imo he's a much better player just because he's Irish,now that makes loads of sense:rolleyes::rolleyes:

No not pretend, he is a good player. Rolll eyess!!!!!!!!!!

BUACHAILL

heavyballs wrote: »

there's no maybe about it,anyway i'm in agreement,the other comment made was stupid,i was just making the comment that the telly doesn't do these players justice,my main point re Lowery wasn't about weight,i don't think he's good enough,i hope as an Irishman i'm allowed to say that or am i being a typical begrudging Paddy

In fairness to him his weight didnt stop him winning last year !! and i am sure we could all be in better shape;) far for any of us to be critical of the guy for his weight, In fairness to you Heavyballs you honestly dont think he is good enough and thats fine, Think I am just defensive on this one as most people who criticise him can only come up with one reason and thats his weight which is complete and utter sh.ite !!

Oh and yeah your still a typical begrudging paddy:D:D

heavyballs

thegen wrote: »

No not pretend, he is a good player. Rolll eyess!!!!!!!!!!

read my post properly if your going(trying)to be a smart ass,when did i say he wasn't a good player??????????

ziggy

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Adiaga 2

ziggy wrote: »

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2 years I think. But it counts less and less toward his points average every week. When he won, it was 40 owgr points now only 19.xx of that win is counting toward his overall points average.

He has done brilliantly since turning pro last year and better than many would have expected. If he can stay in the R2D top 60 this year that will be an excellent season. He definitely has the game to win on tour again imo. No doubt the Irish Open win has helped him climb the rankings quickly but you have to maintain good form to be able to do that. Look at Danny Lee who won as an amateur a few months before him, he's down at 272 in the rankings right now. I'm sure Danny Lee will turn things around but it goes to show how well Lowry has done over the last year. Would love to see him do well this weekend.

Henry Ford III

I'm not saying he's not a good player - he's clearly a very good one.

I'm of the opinion that his weight will prove a barrier against further improvement in the rankings. He's very clearly carrying more than those above him.

Top golfers require stength, suppleness, and stamina. They do a lot of gym work. It's no coincidence that the very best of them don't carry extra baggage. Look at Clarke and Daly - weight problems have played at least a part in their loss of form.

Mickelson has trimmed down quite a bit in the last 12 months. Cabrera and Westwood are built like bricks.



p.s. That's my opinion, factual, and not idiotic.

Mr. Larson

Henry Ford III wrote: »

He's too fat to go much higher in those rankings...

Henry Ford III wrote: »

p.s. That's my opinion, factual, and not idiotic.

How is that "factual" you absolute toolbox?

Henry Ford III

Use your eyes.....he's well overweight.

Speak Now

the groutch wrote: »

alot of work to hold that ranking tho, last year's irish open win is losing it's weighting very quickly

That win has already lost 53% of it's ranking weight so he's holding up quite well really. His average ranking pts has him at 75th place really but they divide by a minimum of 40 events, he's currently played 36 over the 2 year period.

http://www.officialworldgolfranking.com/players/bio.sps?ID=13900&name=Shane&Rank=88&TotalPts=69.56519

thegen

heavyballs wrote: »

there's no maybe about it,anyway i'm in agreement,the other comment made was stupid,i was just making the comment that the telly doesn't do these players justice,my main point re Lowery wasn't about weight,i don't think he's good enough,i hope as an Irishman i'm allowed to say that or am i being a typical begrudging Paddy

Sorry Heavy I picked on the good enough ref above.

Mr. Larson

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Use your eyes.....he's well overweight.

It's your assertion that he is "too fat to go much higher in those rankings..." that I am refering to. It's wholly speculative and very unfair.

BUACHAILL

HenryFord you have stated that its fact he wont go much higher because of his weight !! Thats not factual thats an assumption and in my opinion an idiotic one. Nobody has argued with you and said he isnt over weight, stop knit picking on peoples comments because you have nothing to back up your own !

PhilipMarlowe

As a friend of mine once said (from the grave) "You are all straight up homosexuals."
Now, please play nice with each other and attack the post and not the poster. God knows there's plenty to attack...

durkadurka

He's missed 3 cuts this year - which is as good anyone pretty much, and is well on course to be in the top 60 in race to dubai and top 100 in world.

There are very few other players of his age who can say that.

I think fitness and weight are well overrated - if Tom Watson can nearly win the Open with hip replacements, at 59 years of age, then physical strength and fitness cannot be a major factor.

Skill, mental strength, brains, temperament etc are more important.

He could easily make the top 50 this year. Consider that the world ranking is based on a minimum divisor of 40 tournaments, and he hasn't even played that many, so his ranking points are being diluted more than anyone else.

It would only take a couple more results like this week to get to 50. Once he's in the top 50 he gets into all the big tournaments.

His rise is actually meteoric and I think he isn't getting the respect he merits, and I think its because he's a culchie and he's fat.

Henry Ford III

BUACHAILL wrote: »

HenryFord you have stated that its fact he wont go much higher because of his weight !! Thats not factual thats an assumption and in my opinion an idiotic one. Nobody has argued with you and said he isnt over weight, stop knit picking on peoples comments because you have nothing to back up your own !

Picture more than backs it up. That's my opinion, and that's factual. It's not therefore "idiotic".

What does he weigh btw? He's listed as 5'10" in height.

The extra weight has to be a factor. It simply makes the game tougher.

BUACHAILL

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Picture more than backs it up. That's my opinion, and that's factual. It's not therefore "idiotic".

What does he weigh btw? He's listed as 5'10" in height.

The extra weight has to be a factor. It simply makes the game tougher.

Your picture backs up what exactly ?? That he wont go any higher in world rankings ?? Jaysus fair play to you, you must have a special talent that nobody else has I just see Shane Lowry. What difference does it make what he weighs ? Your going around in circles as you have no argument, stop boring me with your mind knumbing stupidness and post me some factual proof that his weight has held his game back and has cost him world ranking points !! I will be waiting.....along time I am thinking

thelongfellow

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Picture more than backs it up. That's my opinion, and that's factual. It's not therefore "idiotic".

What does he weigh btw? He's listed as 5'10" in height.

The extra weight has to be a factor. It simply makes the game tougher.

Your opinion isn't factual. Maybe if you had some stats to back it up but your too lazy to even use google and instead just spout off idiotic statements that have the desired affect of rising people here.

Daly lost so much weight recently that his putting is gone to sh!te due to the fact he lost his spare tire where he use to rest his elbow.

Maybe if you had said from the start that Lowry would/could be much higher in the rankings if he was slimmer and fitter instead of calling him fat you may have made a valid point.

Henry Ford III

BUACHAILL wrote: »

Your picture backs up what exactly ?? That he wont go any higher in world rankings ?? Jaysus fair play to you, you must have a special talent that nobody else has I just see Shane Lowry. What difference does it make what he weighs ? Your going around in circles as you have no argument, stop boring me with your mind knumbing stupidness and post me some factual proof that his weight has held his game back and has cost him world ranking points !! I will be waiting.....along time I am thinking

Please stop attacking the poster, and perhaps then we can discuss this further.

Mr. Larson

Henry Ford III wrote: »

The extra weight has to be a factor. It simply makes the game tougher.

All the best golfers at my club have massive kegs. Being fat makes you a much better golfer as far as I can see. Must be somthing about having to swing around your gut that promotes a consistent swing?

BUACHAILL

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Please stop attacking the poster, and perhaps then we can discuss this further.

I have attacked your idiotic statement not you I wouldnt waste me breath going there, there is nothing to discuss until you validate your points !! otherwise admit your argument is stupid and your looking to troll and wind people up !

Henry Ford III

thelongfellow wrote: »

Your opinion isn't factual. Maybe if you had some stats to back it up but your too lazy to even use google and instead just spout off idiotic statements that have the desired affect of rising people here.

Daly lost so much weight recently that his putting is gone to sh!te due to the fact he lost his spare tire where he use to rest his elbow.

Maybe if you had said from the start that Lowry would/could be much higher in the rankings if he was slimmer and fitter instead of calling him fat you may have made a valid point.

My opinion is entirely factual. It's an opinion, my view.

I've already made reference to the world's top 20, all of whom are in better physical shape than Shane Lowry.

I mentioned Daly and Clarke both of whom put on too much weight, and whose games suffered. Coincidence?

Daly's current problems game wise are between his ears I'd suggest. Interestingly both of these guys tend to "give up" in tournament play when the going gets tough. They lack mental strength possibly caused by the extra physical efforts they need to make.

Maybe the use of the word "fat" wasn't such a good idea, so apologies for that. I'll use "overweight" from now on.

Mr. Larson

BUACHAILL wrote: »

I have attacked your idiotic statement not you I wouldnt waste me breath going there, there is nothing to discuss until you validate your points !! otherwise admit your argument is stupid and your looking to troll and wind people up !

The fact that (s)he used 'factual' and 'opinion' in the same sentence tells you all you need to know about the level of intellect you are dealing with here with these posts.

Henry Ford III

BUACHAILL wrote: »

I have attacked your idiotic statement not you I wouldnt waste me breath going there, there is nothing to discuss until you validate your points !! otherwise admit your argument is stupid and your looking to troll and wind people up !

Not going to enagage further with you. Pointless.

heavyballs

durkadurka wrote: »

He's missed 3 cuts this year - which is as good anyone pretty much, and is well on course to be in the top 60 in race to dubai and top 100 in world.

There are very few other players of his age who can say that.

I think fitness and weight are well overrated - if Tom Watson can nearly win the Open with hip replacements, at 59 years of age, then physical strength and fitness cannot be a major factor.

Skill, mental strength, brains, temperament etc are more important.

off topic,i think the major majority of pro's wouldn't agree with that statement,all the players that have made vast improvements over the last few years have attributed that to fitness,it's a huge part not to be under estimated
as for Watson he's nearly a once off so can't be compared,btw it was his physical fitness that let him down in the end according to him,(to be expected and taking nothing away from the Ledge)

Mr. Larson

Henry Ford III wrote: »

They lack mental strength possibly caused by the extra physical efforts they need to make.

Rofflecopters. That's too much

BUACHAILL

Henry Ford III wrote: »

My opinion is entirely factual. It's an opinion, my view.

I've already made reference to the world's top 20, all of whom are in better physical shape than Shane Lowry.

I mentioned Daly and Clarke both of whom put on too much weight, and whose games suffered. Coincidence?

Daly's current problems game wise are between his ears I'd suggest. Interestingly both of these guys tend to "give up" in tournament play when the going gets tough. They lack mental strength possibly caused by the extra physical efforts they need to make.

Maybe the use of the word "fat" wasn't such a good idea, so apologies for that. I'll use "overweight" from now on.

What about Daly winning majors? wasnt he overweight at the time not to mention an alcoholic ? must have been lucky TWICE . I know there is lots more but I dont need to back my argument up anymore. You however have shown no evidence to back it up and until you do I wont change my mind, Factual in your own mind maybe, but stupid in everyone elses. havent seen anyone back you up yet ? funny that

Speak Now

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Picture more than backs it up. That's my opinion, and that's factual. It's not therefore "idiotic".

What does he weigh btw? He's listed as 5'10" in height.

The extra weight has to be a factor. It simply makes the game tougher.

Did you take that picture at Adare?

Henry Ford III

Daly in 1991. Quite slim then wasn't he?

Henry Ford III

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

Did you take that picture at Adare?

Not my picture J.S.

BUACHAILL

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Daly in 1991. Quite slim the wasn't he?

To what he became yes very slim , still not an thlete though is he ?