The Conditions for a Replay - Meath V Louth

Barname

Meath County Board should offer a replay based upon the following conditions:

1. Game to be played on Sunday 25th July in Croke Park

2. New Referee - Meath County Board to submit a list of Referees to be selected from.

3. Meath County Board to receive 50% of the gate (not profit, gate) without prejudice to any other funding and or grants to which they would be normally entitled.

It is only upon these conditions that this Replay should take place.

Shane10

if im meath im thinking right its a disaster but were leinster champions and into all-ireland quarter final. do we want to offer a replay and possibly end up in the qualifiers. im thinking no and i couldnt really blame them.

karkar athlete

Why should we, we won the ref called it and what the ref says goes, but what is unfair to him is the abuse he received from the louth fans, utterly disgraceful, joe sheridan was over the line before he even threw the ball, an the two umpires called it a goal too, so whats done is done, sure look people will get over it, sure look at ireland vs. france, over with. But it will prob be forever in louth's hearts.

event

Barname wrote: »

Meath County Board should offer a replay based upon the following conditions:

1. Game to be played on Sunday 25th July in Croke Park

2. New Referee - Meath County Board to submit a list of Referees to be selected from.

3. Meath County Board to receive 50% of the gate (not profit, gate) without prejudice to any other funding and or grants to which they would be normally entitled.

It is only upon these conditions that this Replay should take place.

christ thats hilarious

karkar athlete wrote: »

Why should we, we won the ref called it and what the ref says goes, but what is unfair to him is the abuse he received from the louth fans, utterly disgraceful, joe sheridan was over the line before he even threw the ball, an the two umpires called it a goal too, so whats done is done, sure look people will get over it, sure look at ireland vs. france, over with. But it will prob be forever in louth's hearts.

jesus this is funny

for the first part, do you know the rules?
you cant carry the ball over the line

and the second part?
no, they didnt

there wont be a replay, nor should there be, but thats gas

mal1

I wouldn't want a replay. I'd rather hold this hatred inside and nurture it.:D

On a serious note, i doubt that many of the Louth players would want a replay in the cold light of this morning. I think yesterday took too much out of them. Emotionally and physically. They are better getting prepared for the qualifiers .

Nickibaby*

Being from Louth I don't want a replay either, we won the game fair and square and no replay is necessary. We know we won and more importantly Meath know we won too

Up the wee county Louth and very Proud

doncarlos

mal1 wrote: »

I wouldn't want a replay. I'd rather hold until this hatred inside and nurture it.:D

On a serious note, i doubt that many of the Louth players would want a replay in the cold light of this morning. I think yesterday took too much out of them. Emotionally and physically. They are better getting prepared for the qualifiers .

I don't want a replay either. If we won the replay it wouldn't feel like we really won Leinster. I'd say there are a few Meath players/fans that feel the same after their hollow victory.

We have a good young team and Leinster is weaker than it's ever been so no reason why we can't push on.

znv6i3h7kqf9ys

I'm a Meath man and am all for a replay. Louth were robbed blind and it's not nice to win like that. We were beaten fair and square (and yes it does pain me to say that) It takes the worth out of the medals the players have in their pocket because we all know who won. The GAA have no issue with a replay and Louth want one. I just hope we have no mr Blatter at the meeting tonight. Sorry lads.

Shane732

Nickibaby* wrote: »

Being from Louth I don't want a replay either, we won the game fair and square and no replay is necessary. We know we won and more importantly Meath know we won too

Up the wee county Louth and very Proud

No the you didn't win.... The winners won the Leinster Final and got the Leinster thropy to prove it.

ZeRoY

Gatlin Slow Shark wrote: »

I'm a Meath man and am all for a replay. Louth were robbed blind and it's not nice to win like that.

Well said and its a good time to show that the GAA is not football and that the CCCC is not FIFA! The all thing about GAA is that the players/officials all do it for the love of the game - what happened yesterday needs to be rectify by mean of a replay to keep the sport's integrity.

Bluetonic

Barname wrote: »

Meath County Board should offer a replay based upon the following conditions:

1. Game to be played on Sunday 25th July in Croke Park

2. New Referee - Meath County Board to submit a list of Referees to be selected from.

3. Meath County Board to receive 50% of the gate (not profit, gate) without prejudice to any other funding and or grants to which they would be normally entitled.

It is only upon these conditions that this Replay should take place.

What basis for your points?

You may as well be asking for a bowl of M&Ms in the Meath dressing room with the red one's removed for all the sense they make.

Shane732

I'm a Meath man through and through - personally I feel the county board will offer a replay.

Meath were weak yesterday - they appear to have thought that they only had to turn up for the second half and the match was theirs. I'd be confident that we'd play Louth off the field in a replay but I think Louth should get their chance. Plus it'd do Meath no harm to get a bit of decent publicity out of the whole event.

Dymo

My sympathy for Louth evaporated when their fans attacked the ref, yes the ref made an Ass out of himself not looking for advice from Umpires but he didn't deserve that from the fans of Louth Games over now Meath won according to the score board but morally they probably didn't.

znv6i3h7kqf9ys

Dymo wrote: »

My sympathy for Louth evaporated when their fans attacked the ref, yes the ref made an Ass out of himself not looking for advice from Umpires but he didn't deserve that from the fans of Louth Games over now Meath won according to the score board but morally they probably didn't.

OK point taken about the fans. But think of all the hard work the Louth players put in to get to that far and then to be cheated out of it by a sh1te ref. I'm a Meath man by the way. I'd like to see a replay offered to make up for it. Not a nice way to win and I don't think Meath would be afraid to take them on again cause they were well below par on the day.

homerjay2005

so what happens if we get a replay? and louth win..

in 2 weeks time, in the qualifiers, for example cork and meath are playing to get to the 1/4 final.

cork get a last minute free cos moyles took 5 steps. the free is pointed and cork win by a point. meath fans feel there was only 4 steps taken. they invade the pitch and attack the ref. they too demand a replay.

where does it then end? will people think that attacking the ref will get them a replay?

znv6i3h7kqf9ys

homerjay2005 wrote: »

so what happens if we get a replay? and louth win..

in 2 weeks time, in the qualifiers, for example cork and meath are playing to get to the 1/4 final.

cork get a last minute free cos moyles took 5 steps. the free is pointed and cork win by a point. meath fans feel there was only 4 steps taken. they invade the pitch and attack the ref. they too demand a replay.

where does it then end? will people think that attacking the ref will get them a replay?

It would be up to the county board just like it is tonight

DDC1990

homerjay2005 wrote: »

so what happens if we get a replay? and louth win..

in 2 weeks time, in the qualifiers, for example cork and meath are playing to get to the 1/4 final.

cork get a last minute free cos moyles took 5 steps. the free is pointed and cork win by a point. meath fans feel there was only 4 steps taken. they invade the pitch and attack the ref. they too demand a replay.

where does it then end? will people think that attacking the ref will get them a replay?

The precendent is already there.

A replay was offered before in 1995, after a clear wide in a Laois vs Carlow game was given as a point. Laois had the decency to offer a replay. There wasnt a flood of people asking for replays in the games following that in 1995, so why should that happen now?

The problem occurs if the GAA are forced into making the teams replay; especially if Louth go on to win.

Its a sham, Louth were robbed, and if Kerry were in the same position with Limerick lets say last weekend and won with a goal that wasn't, I would want to see a replay.

WinstonSmith

DDC1990 wrote: »

The precendent is already there.

A replay was offered before in 1995, after a clear wide in a Laois vs Carlow game was given as a point. Laois had the decency to offer a replay. There wasnt a flood of people asking for replays in the games following that in 1995, so why should that happen now?

The problem occurs if the GAA are forced into making the teams replay; especially if Louth go on to win.

Its a sham, Louth were robbed, and if Kerry were in the same position with Limerick lets say last weekend and won with a goal that wasn't, I would want to see a replay.

A couple of things in reply to both these posts and several others.
a) People need to objectively stand back and learn the rules:
-The offending player was in the square before the ball entered;
-He dived 'rugby-like' across the goal-line;
-Claims that he was pushed/fouled are false since the offending players left leg can be seen to move into mid-air before any other part of his body. There can clearly be said to be no contact with this part of the player's body, nor can any part of an opposing team's body be said to be within approximately a foot of this part of the player's body;
-Martin Sludden did not consult his umpires. He told them to award the goal, presumably because he had already made up his mind.
-This has all been discussed on the sunday game and many clips of the incident are available on youtube. So people need to view the case and match it to the rules.
b) Is this even a serious thread? Where is this criteria coming from?
c) Re: HomerJay's comments: It is pointless to hypthesise about such a scenario since it is not such a major incident as this. People are blown up for overcarrying correctly and incorrectly in every single game of football. It would rightly be considered a trivial matter because it happens all the time. The scenario the Leinster final provided us with yesterday does not happen all the time, if it has even happened before at all. It is therefore exceptional circumstances. These are the grounds on which people are calling for a replay/an overturned decision. despite this, because it is such an exceptional circumstance, there is no rule in the GAA for action to be taken to remedy the situation and so the goal has to stand because the referee incorrectly allowed it.
d) I fear to think what would have happened to the ref if this scenario had have occured against Dublin and not Louth. Supposing (improbably) that the ref escaped alive the outcries from Dublin and the media outlets calling for rectification would be deafening. Because it is a minnow on the receiving end, I completely expect the matter to be swept under the carpet. Despite this it is a perfect opportunity for the GAA to set a precedent and/or a rule regarding misconduct by the referee. To right a wrong is certainly the only time precedents ought to be set.
e) I will be completely outspoken on this point and I do not condone the attacks on the referee for an instant. They were disgusting and the perpetrators were not representing me or the vast majority of Louth supporters I am sure. Nonetheless, to defend the right of the referee to safety and security on the grounds that he is an amateur is an amateur's take on the situation. The players, management, supporters, referees, umpires, linesmen, stewards...everybody at that game was an amateur and they were all hurt in some way. They are all entitled to safety, not because they are amateurs but because they are alive. By refereeing the game the ref is automatically positioning himself on the front line and the most vulnerable position imaginable. The effect of him being hurt by hooligans had two causes:
1) His idiotic decision to award the goal thus hurting thousands of fans and dozens of amateur players and management;
2) The lack of protection afforded by the Gardai. Only two members at what was inevitably a volatile situation is unnacceptable. You cannot blame the volatile situation for the attacks since they are part and parcel of the game. Once you attempt to get rid of the volatile situation, you attempt to get rid of the game.

Barname

Why do posters on boards.ie appear to have such difficulty staying on topic?

not one poster has addressed the OP's points

Dr Pepper

Another Meath man here and I'd like to see a replay. No cheers from me or the people around me at the end of that game. I thought the captain's speech was a farce but I suppose Nigel was probably nervous (and a bit giddy at winning Leinster even in those circumstances) and just went ahead with the prepared speech, even though it seemed sickeningly inappropriate!

Best of luck to Louth whatever happens. I'd honestly rather have seen them awarded that game yesterday.

WinstonSmith

Dr Pepper wrote: »

Another Meath man here and I'd like to see a replay. No cheers from me or the people around me at the end of that game. I thought the captain's speech was a farce but I suppose Nigel was probably nervous (and a bit giddy at winning Leinster even in those circumstances) and just went ahead with the prepared speech, even though it seemed sickeningly inappropriate!

Best of luck to Louth whatever happens. I'd honestly rather have seen them awarded that game yesterday.

What did Crawford say? Was too busy walking away in disgust at so many wrong decisions by so many individuals that I didn't hear it...

Barname

WinstonSmith wrote: »

What did Crawford say? Was too busy walking away in disgust at so many wrong decisions by so many individuals that I didn't hear it...

would that include the 15 wides that Louth kicked?

the warranted red card?

the foolish kicking away of the ball, 3 times by Louth that resulted in all the extra time in which Meath then scored the 'goal'?

just curious....

Pegasusbridge

Meath should not offer a replay. One bad decision for a goal is no worse then a ref who incorrectly awards a penalty/disallows a legitimate goal/sends a player off who didn't deserve it etc. It's just a bad decision. A few years ago we lost to Dublin after Alan Brogan took about 8 steps in scoring a goal. Should Dublin have offered a replay? Of course not as that would be farcical.
The ref was wrong but replaying a match because of a mistake is also wrong. Two wrongs don't make a right (a cliche I know but in this case true)

WinstonSmith

Barname wrote: »

would that include the 15 wides that Louth kicked?

the warranted red card?

the foolish kicking away of the ball, 3 times by Louth that resulted in all the extra time in which Meath then scored the 'goal'?

just curious....

Stop being provocative. Such actions lead to rows and led to the scenes witnessed yesterday. And no, for your information I was actually talking about the idiots who decided to attack the ref!

WinstonSmith

Barname wrote: »

would that include the 15 wides that Louth kicked?

the warranted red card?

the foolish kicking away of the ball, 3 times by Louth that resulted in all the extra time in which Meath then scored the 'goal'?

just curious....

Oh, you've edited your post to be even more provocative? Answer's still no. (by the way red card was warrented, ball was foolishly kicked away, louth were naive and inexperienced and they did kick too many wides-all these are part and parcel of any game's football- diving rugby style across the goal line and fans attacking the ref as a result are not.)

Barname

WinstonSmith wrote: »

Stop being provocative. Such actions lead to rows and led to the scenes witnessed yesterday. And no, for your information I was actually talking about the idiots who decided to attack the ref!

one cannot be selective in that which you wish to review under the microscope and video rewind

if one aspect stands for discussion then it all does

simple fact is, Louth dominated the majority of the game yet FAILED to put the necessary cushion between themselves and Meath

Louth shot 15 wides, blew 2 clear Goal chances and yet they wish to blame the ref

Whatever happened personal accountability in this Country?

Get in Touch and Talk to Joe ! 1 850 715 815

The Whineline is open.

DYLF

Barname wrote: »

Meath County Board should offer a replay based upon the following conditions:

1. Game to be played on Sunday 25th July in Croke Park

2. New Referee - Meath County Board to submit a list of Referees to be selected from.

3. Meath County Board to receive 50% of the gate (not profit, gate) without prejudice to any other funding and or grants to which they would be normally entitled.

It is only upon these conditions that this Replay should take place.

1 yeah a good day to have it replayed.

2 yes a new referee but why would it be up to meath to shortlist to be chosen from?

3 and why would they be entitled to 50% of gate takings just for offering a replay??


a replay should be given because louth deserve a replay.. nobody fom meath wants to win like this. its in the interest of their own reputation to offer a replay

Barname

DYLF wrote: »

1 yeah a good day to have it replayed.

2 yes a new referee but why would it be up to meath to shortlist to be chosen from?

3 and why would they be entitled to 50% of gate takings just for offering a replay??


a replay should be given because louth deserve a replay.. nobody fom meath wants to win like this. its in the interest of their own reputation to offer a replay

1. Date agreed

2. As much as Louth would not wish Mr Sudden to officiate there would be Officials that Meath would not appreciate either. I dont think an agreed shortlist of respected intercounty Refs is too much to ask.

3. Meath County board would be offering the Game, its a bonus not warranted within the rules, in return and at the risk of losing silverware the financially pressed County Board would receive some badly needed cash. Not too much to ask. A win/win for all involved.

bubbleking

I dont think a replay will do anybody any good

If meath win it will destroy louth and set them back 5 years - they are also likely to be short suspended players and the burden of pressure will be immense on their shoulders.

If Louth win will it really serve any purpose? the title will be tarnished and so any real meaning for the title will go with it.

These things happen in sport just buck up and get on with it

Reloc8

Whether Meath offer a replay is completely up to their county board.

Whether one is in fact played is up to the GAA, presuming Louth accept the offer.

The conditions under which such a match would be played are clearly for the GAA to regulate.

Offering a replay on fixed terms/conditions precedent/conditional basis would be, in my opinion, seriously misjudged. Either Meath as sportsmen/women are willing to replay the game, in the usual way in which replays are governed, or not.

I don't say for a moment that they should or should not offer a replay. Its for them to decide.

mrgaa1

there should be NO replay. What happened is a mistake but the game, like all others, is full of them.
Its hard to take but thats it.
Louth into the qualifiers, win your match's and get drawn against Meath and seek your revenge then.

It would be far better if the Louth county board stood up and said the result is the result - lets get on with it. Louth football would stand better.

Also the amount of "soccer" booing at free-taking times was unreal and inexcusable. Was Dundalk or Drogheda soccer teams playing yesterday?

rayjdav

"Beauty" of sport, especially GAA, is that it's an amatuers game, policed by amateurs.
I dont think a replay should be considered. Very frustrated looking at it but, as is said above, Louth had chances to win the game earlier and never executed them. To rely on this is a bit of a sad reflection.
Goal should not have been allowed, ref messed up BADLY, umpires SHOULD have voiced their opinions, but they didnt. Bottom line. History has already recored the presentation of the trophy to meath. GAA wont rewrite history on this occasion, imho, and shouldnt.
I am Offaly and '98 v Clare situation was a matter that the full period of the game was not played, nothing else.
If the boot was on the other foot, I think Louth would be reacting the same as Meath are......
The incidents with the fans, regardless of the result, was an absolute disgrace. I hope the GAA, County boards and the guards, and even if the ref wanted to take civil actions, should all be addressed and dealt with through the due process of the courts. No place for that thuggery in sport.
Game over, next round please.....
The GAA should also discipline the ref for HIS actions on the field of play. Justice most also be seen to be done from within..

Mal-Adjusted

can people please stop using the excuse of "he's an amateur, blah, blah, blah..." what difference does that make? ref's are trained. the rules are drilled into their heads. his call was inexcusable.

Shane732

Mal-Adjusted wrote: »

can people please stop using the excuse of "he's an amateur, blah, blah, blah..." what difference does that make? ref's are trained. the rules are drilled into their heads. his call was inexcusable.

The difference is that he's not paid for his job. He gave his time up to ref the match and some people physically assaulted him because he made a mistake.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

We've all made mistakes and we'll all make mistakes in the future be it on a GAA pitch or otherwise.

The ref made numerous mistakes yesterday the vast majority of which went in favour of Louth. Graham Reilly should have been given a free about a minute earlier when he was sandwiched by two Louth players.

The Louth player who tackled Kevin Reilly should have got a straight red as he made a swinging motion at his head. The Louth player who punched Brian Meade should be banned for as long as O' Se and Galvin.

I'm sure there are plenty of tackles and mistakes that were made by the Meath team as well that went un-noticed. It happens in every game to every time.

No matter what the ref did or did not do no one had the right to assault him.

You are right - it makes no difference whether a ref is an amateur or professional, no one should be treated like that.

copacetic

Barname wrote: »

Why do posters on boards.ie appear to have such difficulty staying on topic?

not one poster has addressed the OP's points

there are no 'points' in the OP. Just random demands to try and somehow profit from doing the right thing.

Either Meath should offer a replay or not and live by their decision. A list of farcical demands just cheapens the potential of making the correct gesture.

Barname

copacetic wrote: »

there are no 'points' in the OP. Just random demands to try and somehow profit from doing the right thing.

Either Meath should offer a replay or not and live by their decision. A list of farcical demands just cheapens the potential of making the correct gesture.

the points have been explained in follow up posts

kindly state and explain what you find farcical or is it simply a word you like to use?

be specific.

WinstonSmith

Barname wrote: »

one cannot be selective in that which you wish to review under the microscope and video rewind

if one aspect stands for discussion then it all does

simple fact is, Louth dominated the majority of the game yet FAILED to put the necessary cushion between themselves and Meath

Louth shot 15 wides, blew 2 clear Goal chances and yet they wish to blame the ref

Whatever happened personal accountability in this Country?

Get in Touch and Talk to Joe ! 1 850 715 815

The Whineline is open.

I'm not being selective. I agree that Louth were unable to kill the game off which is what your post implies. I warrant that but it must also be warranted that these are part and parcel of the average game. What is not and which is exceptional and extenuating circumstances was the scenario presented at the end of the game. That these decisions were wrong cannot be disputed. They have been shown beyond any reasonable doubt to have been wrong. Many fans, from both counties, have agreed they were wrong. The managements have implied they were wrong. My point was simply that I was walking away in disgust at the undoubted wrongness of so many individuals who, it is now agreed, were wrong. Where is the problem?

Mal-Adjusted

Shane732 wrote: »

The difference is that he's not paid for his job.

so? how should that impact any decision he makes on the pitch?

Shane732 wrote: »

He gave his time up to ref the match and some people physically assaulted him because he made a mistake.

beside the point. this happened after the match.

Shane732 wrote: »

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Shane732 wrote: »

We've all made mistakes and we'll all make mistakes in the future be it on a GAA pitch or otherwise.

at that level, you don't make mistakes.

Shane732 wrote: »

The ref made numerous mistakes yesterday the vast majority of which went in favour of Louth. Graham Reilly should have been given a free about a minute earlier when he was sandwiched by two Louth players. The Louth player who tackled Kevin Reilly should have got a straight red as he made a swinging motion at his head. The Louth player who punched Brian Meade should be banned for as long as O' Se and Galvin.
I'm sure there are plenty of tackles and mistakes that were made by the Meath team as well that went un-noticed. It happens in every game to every time.

yet more examples of bad calls by the ref. such an incompetent shouldn't have been let near the place.

Shane732 wrote: »

No matter what the ref did or did not do no one had the right to assault him.

of course not. those c*nts should be made pay for what they did. but again, it's beside the point of what i was saying.

Shane732 wrote: »

You are right - it makes no difference whether a ref is an amateur or professional, no one should be treated like that.

i agree.

Barname

WinstonSmith wrote: »

My point was simply that I was walking away in disgust at the undoubted wrongness of so many individuals

Did you copy and paste that sentence from a NAMA thread?

WinstonSmith

You contradict yourself sir:

Shane732 wrote: »

The difference is that he's not paid for his job. He gave his time up to ref the match and some people physically assaulted him because he made a mistake.

Shane732 wrote: »

You are right - it makes no difference whether a ref is an amateur or professional, no one should be treated like that.

"The difference is" vs "it makes no difference"

Yeah, dead on...

copacetic

Barname wrote: »

the points have been explained in follow up posts

kindly state and explain what you find farcical or is it simply a word you like to use?

be specific.

Again, they aren't 'points' they are demands.

If a replay is played the GAA will decide the date, time and venue in combinaton with their broadcasters and the county boards as for any other game. They will also decide the referee and the usual distribution of the gate should apply.

It's the same as any other game. Trying to hold the GAA and Louth to ransom just to do the right thing is farcical and pretty sickening.

However I sure the Meath board have more to them that the OP here and very much doubt they would act like this thread suggests.

WinstonSmith

Barname wrote: »

Did you copy and paste that sentence from a NAMA thread?

Ha! I could very well have done. It would be very fitting. Nonetheless, let's stay on topic. I felt and still feel disgusted at choices made by many individuals yesterday which contributed to creating exceptional circumstances which were all undoubtedly wrong.

Barname

copacetic wrote: »

Again, they aren't 'points' they are demands.

If a replay is played the GAA will decide the date, time and venue in combinaton with their broadcasters and the county boards as for any other game. They will also decide the referee and the usual distribution of the gate should apply.

It's the same as any other game. Trying to hold the GAA and Louth to ransom just to do the right thing is farcical and pretty sickening.

However I sure the Meath board have more to them that the OP here and very much doubt they would act like this thread suggests.

once again you fail to list them and your problems with them specifically.

Loinner

I felt sorry for Louth for all of about 5 minutes. Then reality kicked in again.

1. The ref was aweful all game, and up until the goal Louth were getting a lot of soft decisions off him.

2. Meath were useless in the second half, it must have been 15 minutes into the second half before we got into the Louth half and took a shot (which went wide, a free from Ward i think).

3. Louth should have been out of sight by the time the goal was 'scored'.

4. (This is were i really loose sympathy for Louth). The players spent the last 5 minutes acting the maggot [starting fights, dirty tackles ect]. And JP kicked the ball away (twice!!!) when the last free was given instead of taking up a defensive position to make life harder for Meath.

Simularly, disent caused a free to be moved forward earlier. I think it was right after Louths goal. The result was the free started off outside of Wards range but was moved into his range and he scored.

5. The behaviour of the Louth supporters. There is no way the GAA will allow a replay after the assault (on the ref and on particularly the steward). If also heard that a Meath player was struck by a Louth supporter, and that Seán Boylan was struck. [i heard this from 5 people last night (3 of them dont know each other), so this shouldnt be dismissed as a rumour.






A demand or two from Meath, as said by the first poster, wouldnt be totally unreasonable but is as unlikely as the replay


EDIT: Confirmed now on the radio, Seán Boylan got a thump off a Louth supporter

aidan24326

Barname wrote: »

once again you fail to list them and your problems with them specifically.

Just give it up and accept that you started an idiotic thread. I'm not sure how this is even still open.

Shane10

If also heard that a Meath player was struck by a Louth supporter, and that Seán Boylan was struck. [i heard this from 5 people last night (3 of them dont know each other), so this shouldnt be dismissed as a rumour.

ya there's a pic of a louth fan puncing one of the meath players in the face in the star.

rebel girl 15

Barname wrote: »

Meath County Board should offer a replay based upon the following conditions:

1. Game to be played on Sunday 25th July in Croke Park

2. New Referee - Meath County Board to submit a list of Referees to be selected from.

3. Meath County Board to receive 50% of the gate (not profit, gate) without prejudice to any other funding and or grants to which they would be normally entitled.

It is only upon these conditions that this Replay should take place.

No chance! And number 3 is ridiculous, did you not hear about what happened with Waterford and the embarrassment that caused. It would set an awful precedent imo

Barname wrote: »

2. As much as Louth would not wish Mr Sudden to officiate there would be Officials that Meath would not appreciate either. I dont think an agreed shortlist of respected intercounty Refs is too much to ask.

You do realise there is a list of inter county refs? Only those from that list can ref inter county games in 2010?

Mal-Adjusted wrote: »

can people please stop using the excuse of "he's an amateur, blah, blah, blah..." what difference does that make? ref's are trained. the rules are drilled into their heads. his call was inexcusable.

Not enough

noelg

Barname wrote: »

Meath County Board should offer a replay based upon the following conditions:

1. Game to be played on Sunday 25th July in Croke Park

2. New Referee - Meath County Board to submit a list of Referees to be selected from.

3. Meath County Board to receive 50% of the gate (not profit, gate) without prejudice to any other funding and or grants to which they would be normally entitled.

It is only upon these conditions that this Replay should take place.

These conditions are ridiculous - I have much better ideas!



1 Game to be played in Pairc Tailteann next Saturday
2 NO Louth thugs allowed in (Just the thuggish Louth players who will be charged an entry fee of € 500 each)
3 Graham Geraghty to referee it
4 Pat Spillane not allowed enter County Meath (ever!)
5 Any contentious decisions in Louths favour to be pored over by TV panel of Colm O Rourke and Liam Hayes.
6 In the interest of fair play and safety - any contentious issues in Meath's favour will be overlooked.
7 Graham Geraghty's performance to be evaluated by the impartial crowd, and if necessary he may be replaced by Barney Allen at any time.
8 Speaking in a Louth accent is a bookable offence hi

You may be from Louth if :
1 You think loading the dishwasher means getting your wife drunk.
2 You always bring your wife to the match - because she's too damn ugly to kiss goodbye!
3 You stare at an orange juice container - because it says "concentrate"
4 Your parents met at a family reunion.
5 You were shaving before you left primary school.
6 Your dog can't watch you eat without getting sick.
7 You have ever used a toilet brush as a back scratcher

And finally.........

The harsh reality is that in this world there are winners and losers. Meath are winners and Louth are losers - FACT! But look on the bright side guys - you have something to cry about for the next fifty years - har har har!

Barname

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

You do realise there is a list of inter county refs? Only those from that list can ref inter county games in 2010?

lol, of course rebel girl,

what part of the proposal did you not understand?

The Meath County Board should narrow that list down to a pool of their choice, then let the Leinster Council decide from that pool

fairly simple proposal.

Mal-Adjusted

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

Not enough

that's a matter for debate, but judging on the wide variation of competency of ref's, i'd say that some are, some are not. the ones who aren't have no place on the pitch (such as the one yesterday), at least at this high a level.

Long Term Louth

karkar athlete wrote: »

Why should we, we won the ref called it and what the ref says goes, but what is unfair to him is the abuse he received from the louth fans, utterly disgraceful, joe sheridan was over the line before he even threw the ball, an the two umpires called it a goal too, so whats done is done, sure look people will get over it, sure look at ireland vs. france, over with. But it will prob be forever in louth's hearts.

Pehaps I am mis-informed but as yet the Ref has not spoken, The umpires offered no explanation to the referee as none was requested at the time of the incident. Correct Joe Sheridan was over the line before he got to throw the ball, the manner in which he got over the line is the issue and perhaps you should (read the rules) as this will clarify the issue for you. The behaviour of some of the so called Louth fans was an absolute disgrace and could not in any way be condoned by any true Louth follower. Dont worry about our hearths as they have suffered on numerous occasions and no doubt will again. Meath for Sam Joe Sheridan for The Pittsburgh stealers. As titled keep your replay as you are totally satisfied with the decision made, OR ARE YOU "REALLY"?