8 killed in Donegal crash - Condolences here

BigBrownBear

Eight die in Co Donegal collision

Monday, 12 July 2010 08:13
Eight people have died in a two-car crash on the Buncrana to Clonmany in Co Donegal.
Seven men in a black Volkswagen Passat along with the driver of a second car a red Toyota Corolla were killed in the crash.
The driver of the Passat was taken to Letterkenny General Hospital with serious injuries.
The eight occupants of the Passat ranged in ages from their late teens to their early 20s, the driver of the Corolla was a man in his 60s.
The crash happened at around 10.40pm last night.
It is belived that a car first collided with another vehicle but no one was injured and it travelled on towards Buncrana and was involved in a second collision a few hundred yards later and all eight were killed.
The road is expected to remain sealed-off for some time.
Gardaí are appealing for anyone who was in the area or who was traveling on the Buncrana to Clonmany road between 10pm and 11pm to contact Buncrana Garda Station on 074 9320540.
www.rte.ie/newsindex
Horrific stuff. All the dead were in the same car. Donegal seems to have a very high rate of young men killed in car crashes at night

The Davestator

Disaster for the area and the families.
Donegal (and the North in general) are mad about their motorsports and this is why there is more fatal accidents in Donegal in my opinion.

RIP to all regradless.

Danbo!

BigBrownBear wrote: »

Horrific stuff. All the dead were in the same car.

Im scould have sworn I read somewhere it was 7 in the passat and 1 in another car killed, think it may even have been written in your post.

Anyway, horrible stuff altogether

Gummy Panda

Having 7 people fit into a passat didn't help their chance of survival.

qwytre

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Having 7 people fit into a passat didn't help their chance of survival.

It was 8 in the passat, 7 died in that plus the driver of the other car. The driver of the passat is in critical condition.

Absolute horror. RIP.

Drive carefully everyone.

Run_to_da_hills

R.I.P.

lisbon_lions

I don't think its a good time or good choice of forum to bring this up only hours after a horrendous accident.

RoadKillTs

Very sad. Such a waste of life.

RIP.

Kasabian

lisbon_lions wrote: »

I don't think its a good time or good choice of forum to bring this up only hours after a horrendous accident.

I think you'll find that people in AH can be sympathetic and respectful too.

W.Shakes-Beer

thats terrible, sure wasn't there another crash near there only a few weeks ago?

also having 7 people in the passat?!

Im thinking there was drink or something involved if the car collided with something first and then travelled a few more yards and then collided again.

RIP to all involved.

BigBrownBear

Stee wrote: »

Im scould have sworn I read somewhere it was 7 in the passat and 1 in another car killed, think it may even have been written in your post.

Anyway, horrible stuff altogether

You're right. Apologies

lisbon_lions

Kasabian wrote: »

I think you'll find that people in AH can be sympathetic and respectful too.

In the majority, yes. There are always all too often unsympathetic and disrespectful remarks by some in here to sensitive incidents too however.

WindSock

That's shocking, too many lives lost at the one incident on the road. RIP.

Run_to_da_hills

W.Shakes-Beer wrote: »

thats terrible, sure wasn't there another crash near there only a few weeks ago?

also having 7 people in the passat?!

Im thinking there was drink or something involved if the car collided with something first and then traveled a few more yards and then collided again.

RIP to all involved.

It is not the first time involving overcrowded cars, 7 were killed in a Fiat Panda when it crashed into the Royal Canal in the early 90's.

It would be better to wait until there is an official report from Gardai rather than speculate if there was any drink involved..

easyeason3

They are way too young to have died. Their whole lives were ahead of them.
Whether there was 7 in the car or 17 I don't think it makes much difference now.
My sympathies are with the families & friends. It's truly shocking.

LoanShark

The Davestator wrote: »

Donegal (and the North in general) are mad about their motorsports and this is why there is more fatal accidents in Donegal in my opinion.

As much of a disaster as this is, Your comment is BullS**t... A fair majority of R.T.A.s are caused by drivers from Northern Ireland who don't know the roads and are caught out, I agree that speed and not having knowledge of the roads is also a factor.. It is extrememly unfair for you to say that motorsport and fans of mototrsport are reckless in their driving and are the cause of such carnage..

This is not the thread to continue this discussion So, I'll stop now..

I send my deepest sympathy to the families of all involved in this horrific accident...RIP..

sunflower27

RIP.

God love their families. My heart goes out to them.

Run_to_da_hills

Mods, why was this thread moved from AH to the Doneygal Forum?

This is of national importance and many would like to give their condolences.

Lukker-

Wow, 7 men dead in the one car. Probably all friends too, it's crazy to think that a whole group of friends like that in an instant. Condolences to friends and families of the dead.

BigBrownBear

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Mods, why was this thread moved from AH to the Doneygal Forum?

This is of national importance and many would like to give their condolences.

I'm confused about that too. If I hadn't put Donegal in the thread title I don't think it would have been moved

Elliee

So sad, Woke up to readin this news on rte this morning.
R.I.P to all 8 people involved.
God love their families.

tbh

absolutely terrible. RIP, and god love the poor families.

lucylu

Condolences to the families of all who died tragically.

My thoughts are also with the emergency services who had to respond to the accident.

Webmonkey

Shocking stuff. RIP all. Poor families.

stovelid

Horrible thing to happen to so many young people in one accident. I feel fur the families.

Something really needs to be done about the fatalities: especially in rural areas and that part of the country in particular.

muffler

Words are difficult to find at a time like this. A terrible, terrible tragic accident and I really feel for the families of these young men. RIP.

Can I ask you all to please respect the sensitive nature of the topic.





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91011

Whilst theres needs to be sympathy, there also needs to be anger when it is shown the reckless abandonment shown by the driver of the passat who sped away from the scene of another accident only seconds before.

Assuming he survives his injuries trhe book should be thrown at him and so should the anger of the parent & friends of all those who have died.

Until such time the people of Donegal stop pussyfooting around these horror incidents, they will continue. - The previous horror when 5 friends from Inishowen who took every careful precaution only to be killed by a driver pissed off his head was horrific. The perpetrator got away with 4 years jail!:eek: (will be out after 2) - even though he has permanent injuries, the book should have been thrown at him and he should have received a minimum 10 years per life.

Drivers a certain level over the limit and drivers who drive dangerously should have vehicles immediatly seized and if found guilty, the vehicle destroyed.

Only then, will these thugs think about their actions.

gym_mom

91011 wrote: »

Whilst theres needs to be sympathy, there also needs to be anger when it is shown the reckless abandonment shown by the driver of the passat who sped away from the scene of another accident only seconds before.

Assuming he survives his injuries trhe book should be thrown at him and so should the anger of the parent & friends of all those who have died.

Until such time the people of Donegal stop pussyfooting around these horror incidents, they will continue. - The previous horror when 5 friends from Inishowen who took every careful precaution only to be killed by a driver pissed off his head was horrific. The perpetrator got away with 4 years jail!:eek: (will be out after 2) - even though he has permanent injuries, the book should have been thrown at him and he should have received a minimum 10 years per life.

Drivers a certain level over the limit and drivers who drive dangerously should have vehicles immediatly seized and if found guilty, the vehicle destroyed.

Only then, will these thugs think about their actions.

Have to agree with your reasoning but let's wait and see what the outcome of the investigation is before we lay blame. Although everything points towards the driver of the Passatt being at fault just remember that no facts are known about the cause of the accident yet. Also the passengers probably willingly allowed themselves to be carried unbelted, in an overcrowded car with a possibly known drunk driver who had just hit another car so .... maybe blame is shared. People need to take responsibilit for their own welfare too. Anyway, we'll see. It's shocking for so many young people to lose their lives in this way. I can only imagine the knock on the door this morning with that awful news.

RIP to all who lost their lives.

Run_to_da_hills

91011 wrote: »

Whilst theres needs to be sympathy, there also needs to be anger when it is shown the reckless abandonment shown by the driver of the passat who sped away from the scene of another accident only seconds before.

Assuming he survives his injuries trhe book should be thrown at him and so should the anger of the parent & friends of all those who have died.

Until such time the people of Donegal stop pussyfooting around these horror incidents, they will continue. - The previous horror when 5 friends from Inishowen who took every careful precaution only to be killed by a driver pissed off his head was horrific. The perpetrator got away with 4 years jail!:eek: (will be out after 2) - even though he has permanent injuries, the book should have been thrown at him and he should have received a minimum 10 years per life.

Drivers a certain level over the limit and drivers who drive dangerously should have vehicles immediatly seized and if found guilty, the vehicle destroyed.

Only then, will these thugs think about their actions.

Again we should not draw up any conclusions to the nature of this accident until we recieve official reports from the authorities.

Mint Sauce

just after hearing this now

RIP and condolances for all invloved

homer simpson

Terrible terrible Accident, Thought with the famalies of the deceased....

danniemcq

The Davestator wrote: »

Disaster for the area and the families.
Donegal (and the North in general) are mad about their motorsports and this is why there is more fatal accidents in Donegal in my opinion.

RIP to all regradless.

I'm sorry but a general statement like that is completely uncalled for. You must remember that us up here in Donegal don't get the money to run a decent public transport service, we don't get money for road improvements as much as other counties, we have one of the largest counties in Ireland in terms of area, all these factors inevitably add together to increase the number of accidents in Donegal. Yes there is a number of boy racers around the county but they aren’t a Donegal only breed so try not to paint us all up here with the same brush.

And can i just say for you to check your facts and figures as Donegal hasn't the highest fatality rate in Ireland. Chesk RSA if you don't believe it

91011 wrote: »

Whilst theres needs to be sympathy, there also needs to be anger when it is shown the reckless abandonment shown by the driver of the passat who sped away from the scene of another accident only seconds before.

I have to agree with the 2 other posters about this. Unless you know something that everyone else doesn't don't jump to conclusions.

It's a tragedy for all those concerned and the last thing family and friends of the victims need is for people who didn't know those involved to make persumptions about these people and to what happened

The Big Red Button

You know, the article doesn't actually make it clear which of the two cars involved hit another car prior to the accident. Just saying ...

RIP all involved, and condolences to the family. A horrible tragedy.

baalthor

chatterpillar wrote: »

You know, the article doesn't actually make it clear which of the two cars involved hit another car prior to the accident. Just saying ...

RIP all involved, and condolences to the family. A horrible tragedy.

But a VW Passat isn't designed to transport 8 people ...

stooge

LoanShark wrote: »

As much of a disaster as this is, Your comment is BullS**t... A fair majority of R.T.A.s are caused by drivers from Northern Ireland who don't know the roads and are caught out, I agree that speed and not having knowledge of the roads is also a factor.. It is extrememly unfair for you to say that motorsport and fans of mototrsport are reckless in their driving and are the cause of such carnage..

This is not the thread to continue this discussion So, I'll stop now..

I send my deepest sympathy to the families of all involved in this horrific accident...RIP..

So its unfair to say that motorsport loving drivers are reckless, but it not unfair to say that northern ireland drivers are reckless?

Before making sweeping comments come back here with cold, hard, proper figures. Then we'll discuss further...

As for the comment of drink being involved, thats a bit premature. Having 8 people in the car can make it very hard to control which may explain the earlier accident. Better to wait for the official report. Terrible tragedy.

who what when

There seems to be a very high occurance of the driver surviving when all other occupants die! Does anyone know if this an actual fact or just my imagination?

eden_my_ass

who what when wrote: »

There seems to be a very high occurance of the driver surviving when all other occupants die! Does anyone know if this an actual fact or just my imagination?

If a car is on the road, the one person guaranteed to be in it is the driver (hopefully!)...hence you'd imagine the highest safety focus for manufacturers is on the drivers "cockpit"...I'd imagine thats the reason they have a better chance at survival in a crash??

deise48

r.i.p

Run_to_da_hills

who what when wrote: »

There seems to be a very high occurance of the driver surviving when all other occupants die! Does anyone know if this an actual fact or just my imagination?

Down to not wearing seatbelts and minimum head protection. Remember that RSA add with Somanta Momba sound track?.

trad

who what when wrote: »

There seems to be a very high occurance of the driver surviving when all other occupants die! Does anyone know if this an actual fact or just my imagination?

The only person who can sit in the drivers seat is the driver. They have the steering wheel in front of them and possibly a seatbelt and an airbag. There would probably be multiple occupant in the remainder of the seats mostly unrestrained hence the high rate of mortality.

Sad event, thoughts also with the emergency services who had to deal with the devistation.

MetzgerMeister

qwytre wrote: »

It was 8 in the passat, 7 died in that plus the driver of the other car. The driver of the passat is in critical condition.

Absolute horror. RIP.

Drive carefully everyone.

With all due respect and sympathy to the people and their families, I think the reporters may have made a mistake here. are they sure it wasn't a VW Sharran or some VW 7 seater?

force majeure

This is dreadful beyond any words I can write here, speaking from my own point off view as I lost 2 brothers in similar incidents in the passed 10 years I just hope those around the families give the support the can.

gym_mom

einheisserschre wrote: »

With all due respect and sympathy to the people and their families, I think the reporters may have made a mistake here. are they sure it wasn't a VW Sharran or some VW 7 seater?

It's not uncommon to see a group of young people stacking into a car like this. I have a VW passatt and it's very roomy, you would easily get two light guys in the front passanger seat along with 5 in the back, squashed in and one on someone's lap.

trad

einheisserschre wrote: »

With all due respect and sympathy to the people and their families, I think the reporters may have made a mistake here. are they sure it wasn't a VW Sharran or some VW 7 seater?

Independent and Times both say passat on their websites, Times goes as far as saying a black passat.

calmone?

I live in the Area and was with some of the parent when told.

No one should assume at this time that there was drink involved or talk about who's fault it was.
Please remember that people have died.
Think how it will effect the parents, families, young people and the whole community! everyone is in shock.
Drink, speeding or balme should not be talked about at this time......please

gleep

I think everyone should stop speculating as to the causes / blame, it's not the time.

It's a tragedy, have some respect.

My thoughts to the families, friends, and the survivor and emergency services who will be affected by this for the rest of their lives. There will be a huge emotional fallout from this in Inishowen, no need to add to that by speculating ond sabre rattling.

R.I.P

dcfc

Once again, we wake to this terrible news!
My thoughts and prayers are with all the families involved in this tragedy. Now isn't the time for speculation.

RIP to all the victims

MetzgerMeister

gym_mom wrote: »

It's not uncommon to see a group of young people stacking into a car like this. I have a VW passatt and it's very roomy, you would easily get two light guys in the front passanger seat along with 5 in the back, squashed in and one on someone's lap.

I wasn't doubting that this was a possibility Jus thought it might have been a mistake!

muffler

calmone? wrote: »

I live in the Area and was with some of the parent when told.

No one should assume at this time that there was drink involved or talk about who's fault it was.
Please remember that people have died.
Think how it will effect the parents, families, young people and the whole community! everyone is in shock.
Drink, speeding or balme should not be talked about at this time......please

I think that about sums up my personal view and also my view as forum moderator.

As I said earlier its an extremely sensitive topic and Id ask you all to show a wee bit of respect for the bereaved families and friends of those who lost their lives.

crackcrack30

gleep wrote: »

I think everyone should stop speculating as to the causes / blame, it's not the time.

It's a tragedy, have some respect.

My thoughts to the families, friends, and the survivor and emergency services who will be affected by this for the rest of their lives. There will be a huge emotional fallout from this in Inishowen, no need to add to that by speculating ond sabre rattling.

R.I.P

+ 1 for the emergency services and their families up there

Tony Almeida

91011 wrote: »

Whilst theres needs to be sympathy, there also needs to be anger when it is shown the reckless abandonment shown by the driver of the passat who sped away from the scene of another accident only seconds before.

Assuming he survives his injuries trhe book should be thrown at him and so should the anger of the parent & friends of all those who have died.

Until such time the people of Donegal stop pussyfooting around these horror incidents, they will continue. - The previous horror when 5 friends from Inishowen who took every careful precaution only to be killed by a driver pissed off his head was horrific. The perpetrator got away with 4 years jail!:eek: (will be out after 2) - even though he has permanent injuries, the book should have been thrown at him and he should have received a minimum 10 years per life.

Drivers a certain level over the limit and drivers who drive dangerously should have vehicles immediatly seized and if found guilty, the vehicle destroyed.

Only then, will these thugs think about their actions.

Driver didnt speed away from the scene.