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  • 08-07-2010 9:22am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭


    Can I ask why it is such a terrible thing on here to resurrect old threads.

    The Thread "Letter from Social Welfare" for example.
    Yes, it's a year old and someone updated it yesterday but so what.
    The last person to write in that thread was only helping and explaining what the social welfare meetings were about.
    And then the thread is closed...why?? :confused:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 206 ✭✭Jambo221


    Necro-bumping is frowned upon in general on forums, basically because any information already posted is probably out of date and will most likely end up being quoted causing unnecessary confusion.

    It is somewhat irritating to see threads get closed over that, but then it is in the rules of the forum.

    Hope that clears a bit up before this is closed for being unrelated to the Limerick board :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,413 ✭✭✭Stab*City


    ya the limerick city homepage is starting to resemble the limerick city centre everything is closed!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,817 ✭✭✭phill106


    It does seem a tad excessive sometimes, but it is odd that so many zombie threads were resurrected yesterday!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭Itsdacraic


    A bit more discretion could be used to determine if a so-called zombie thread has merit in being kept open or not. The idea of a blanket ban is just a bit lazy. Thread gets bumped, lock it, instead of talking a minute or two to see the way the thread is heading or if bumping the thread was releveant. Bumping something like the John Dundon thread was worthwhile because the latest news story brought closure to a few of the issues raised in the earlier thread. Why open a new thread where the same points that had already been discussed the previous thread will have to be rehashed again.

    Bumping an old thread also allows newer posters to follow what has gone previously.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭talkingclock


    ah come on! we all know where we are posting and who is watching. what do you expect??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,635 ✭✭✭xsiborg


    ah come on! we all know where we are posting and who is watching. what do you expect??

    dey tuk closed ur our jawbs threads... :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Millie


    Itsdacraic wrote: »
    A bit more discretion could be used to determine if a so-called zombie thread has merit in being kept open or not. The idea of a blanket ban is just a bit lazy. Thread gets bumped, lock it, instead of talking a minute or two to see the way the thread is heading or if bumping the thread was releveant. Bumping something like the John Dundon thread was worthwhile because the latest news story brought closure to a few of the issues raised in the earlier thread. Why open a new thread where the same points that had already been discussed the previous thread will have to be rehashed again.

    Bumping an old thread also allows newer posters to follow what has gone previously.

    Agree with this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 310 ✭✭Captain Average


    I was guilty of bumping the Guinness thread, but I thought I was doing the right thing as a noob and that was a better thing to do rather than start a new thread on something already discussed. I wanted a fresher opinion on the subject. :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭Raiser


    Not all threads date badly.

    Certain elements by their nature remain constants.

    - Sometimes its not the best option to create a new thread.

    Discretion is most certainly required in my opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    Are ye unhappy with the modding here so lads? If so I believe it should be raised in feedback.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 489 ✭✭dermothickey


    I'd say there's probably an element of fear, plus people don't want to offend any mods by complaining, yet I agree with the posters here in regard to certain threads just being locked while people are starting to discuss again.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,892 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Itsdacraic wrote: »
    The idea of a blanket ban is just a bit lazy.

    Nail on head. The mods of this forum appear to have little or no interest in it. They do a good job over-seeing the whole of the Mid-West category, but appear to have no particular grá for the Limerick City Forum. A more enthusiastic forum care-taker could dramatically improve this discussion-board, rather than a strict disciplinarian.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭Itsdacraic


    Nail on head. The mods of this forum appear to have little or no interest in it. They do a good job over-seeing the whole of the Mid-West category, but appear to have no particular grá for the Limerick City Forum. A more enthusiastic forum care-taker could dramatically improve this discussion-board, rather than a strict disciplinarian.

    Thanks for the recommendation I_O but unfortunately I have no interest in becoming chief moderator of the Limerick forum.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,892 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Itsdacraic wrote: »
    Thanks for the recommendation I_O but unfortunately I have no interest in becoming chief moderator of the Limerick forum.

    :D

    I'd never make a recommendation like that! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Millie


    I didn't start the thread as a finger pointing exercise and fair play to anyone who takes on the role of Mod.
    However like the thread of this morning I didn't see the harm with it being added to and the reasoning behind locking it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    RonMexico wrote: »
    I believe it should be raised in feedback.
    I raised the issue of closing old threads on Feedback. My gripe was that there was no real need to close this and this for example. No response was given from the mod and the practice seems to have continued.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭talkingclock


    Oh wait until our favourite mod wakes up! Questioning decisions of god a mod here results in a ban.

    Humbly awaiting my infraction...


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,892 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Aidric wrote: »
    I raised the issue of closing old threads on Feedback. My gripe was that there was no real need to close this and this for example. No response was given from the mod and the practice seems to have continued.

    Just to let you know, the best way to query something is to send a friendly PM to the moderator in question. The Feedback Forum is a bit messy. There's no guarantee the mod will look at it, and the responses given by other posters can drag it way off-topic.
    Oh wait until our favourite mod wakes up! Questioning decisions of god a mod here results in a ban.

    Humbly awaiting my infraction...

    As far as I am aware, you should only be given a red/yellow card for questioning a mod's decision if you do it in the same thread. It drags the thread even further off its topic (and increases the chances of the topic being locked ;) ) Offering genuine, constructive feedback is much more effective than making sarcastic, personalised comments about a moderator...


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭Raiser


    Oh wait until our favourite mod wakes up! Questioning decisions of god a mod here results in a ban.

    Humbly awaiting my infraction...

    Where did you go to when you left Limerick/Ireland anyhow TalkingClock?

    Mods before you infract him please let us know where his IP Address has him located, the curiosity is killing me......

    - I just rang your number but all I got was a recorded message?

    At the signal, it will be 17:30 and 50 Seconds.......


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    Just to let you know, the best way to query something is to send a friendly PM to the moderator in question. The Feedback Forum is a bit messy. There's no guarantee the mod will look at it, and the responses given by other posters can drag it way off-topic.
    Insect, I'm well aware of how thing's work thanks. My posts were very much in context as the title of that feedback thread was 'closing old threads'.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    you treat all threads the same you are accused of excess, you treat some threads differently you are accused of double standards.

    damned if you do, damned if you don't

    by the way, the life expectency of this thread is going to be quite short. so get your post in while the thread is still warm.

    closing at 1840 hrs.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,892 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    you treat all threads the same you are accused of excess, you treat some threads differently you are accused of double standards.

    ...so get your post in while the thread is still warm.

    My final comment on this:

    In my opinion, there are times when common sense should prevail. If there are elements of an existing thread that are still relevant, then using it for continued discussion shouldn't be a problem.

    I'd never use the term "zombie thread" for anything less than a year old. Threads from January to March of this year have been closed for being "zombie threads" when they were no such thing.

    If a thread is being locked for legal reasons/trolling/going off-topic then say so. Same applies if the OP requests that it's closed. Don't just throw down "Zombie-thread" as a catch-all excuse for closing threads, especially when there is another valid reason.

    Another issue: threads with less than 30-40 posts and are closed for trolling or going off-topic. These can usually be fixed up with a little bit of pruning. It's not exactly a huge task to delete bad posts. Another option is to split posts off to a new thread. That way both topics can be discussed and nobody cries about the whole discussion being killed off. It also shows that the mods have a genuine interest in the forum, in more than an enforcer role.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    The books thread for example, they were asking for local information about where would take books in bulk, they werent trying to sell them on boards. The lock and repoint to adverts.ie was wrong as its info they're looking for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Icky Thump


    the "best place for a pint of guiness" thread was needlessly closed. i somehow think common sense is a bit rare these days(not talking about the mods btw)

    billy maybe a little more thought before shutting some old threads. just think would it be wise to keep an old thread or let someone start a new thread on the exact same thing..........................


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭Raiser


    zuroph wrote: »
    The books thread for example, they were asking for local information about where would take books in bulk, they werent trying to sell them on boards. The lock and repoint to adverts.ie was wrong as its info they're looking for.

    I was surprised to see the Books thread being closed too?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭Itsdacraic


    you treat all threads the same you are accused of excess, you treat some threads differently you are accused of double standards.

    damned if you do, damned if you don't

    by the way, the life expectency of this thread is going to be quite short. so get your post in while the thread is still warm.

    closing at 1840 hrs.

    :rolleyes:
    :p
    :D
    :cool:


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    zuroph wrote: »
    The books thread for example, they were asking for local information about where would take books in bulk, they werent trying to sell them on boards. The lock and repoint to adverts.ie was wrong as its info they're looking for.


    I will revisit the books thread in that case.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Raiser wrote: »
    I was surprised to see the Books thread being closed too?



    I think that was in error, as the poster was trying to give the books to a charity not sell them, but could have been seen as selling if read quickly





    EDIT: Just saw that there was a reply on the book thread at the same time I made my post


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭talkingclock


    Raiser wrote: »
    Where did you go to when you left Limerick/Ireland anyhow TalkingClock?

    Take a guess! 1191 - The number you haveve dialed is not in service.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭bullets


    Have seen cases where old threads have been updated with new information
    on the same topic and have been closed because they are Zombie threads
    with comments along the lines of Start a new Thread.

    That did not make sense to me, Fair enough if its old information
    thats not relevant, but if its still on topic and people are still interested in
    discussing the subject I dont see what the problem is.

    Starting a new separate thread means the old thread with new information gets locked and bumped to the front as someone replied to it, either with good intention or due to lack of awareness that it was old and frowned upon.
    And then theres brand spanking new thread thats just ahead of the old one.

    I dont understand how starting an additional separate thread on the same subject helps things.

    ~B


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