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Are smoothies fattening

  • 07-07-2010 4:15pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 598 ✭✭✭


    Quick one lads.

    Good lady is stating that yes they are, and I'm saying that if you are exercising then no, they are fine.

    Half pint milk
    hand full of frozen berries
    half banana
    half scoop whey.

    Thanks,


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 598 ✭✭✭Apip99


    Sorry Mods, you may want to move to nutrition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭Jackasaurus rex


    They are high in sugar because fruit contains natural sugars. But if your training it should be grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Apip99 wrote: »
    Quick one lads.

    Good lady is stating that yes they are, and I'm saying that if you are exercising then no, they are fine.

    Half pint milk
    hand full of frozen berries
    half banana
    half scoop whey.

    Thanks,

    What is fattening?
    I mean what nutritional characteristics define something as fattening?

    I think its BSology cos loads of stuff can make you fat if you eat enough of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭Will Heffernan


    d'Oracle wrote: »
    What is fattening?
    I mean what nutritional characteristics define something as fattening?

    I think its BSology cos loads of stuff can make you fat if you eat enough of it.
    Bingo! :)

    If you are expending 3000 calories a day and you are dieting...whether you eat 4 Quarter Pounders and Cheese for you 2000 calories or 20 bananas you are still creating a 1000 calories deficit.

    Nothing you eat is intrinsically fattening. Some things you eat are more calories dense than others but are not in and of themselves fattening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭LimeFruitGum


    That combo sounds fine to me, OP. You'd just have to watch the sugar content if the ingredients were all fruit, as far as I know, but berries and banana with low-fat natural yoghurt should be grand.
    Maybe add a carrot in a smoothie for extra veg and vitamins?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭bungaro79


    read that by having a protein source with a natural sugar source like fruit means you don't get a spike in insulin as the protein spreads it out instead of just getting a hit. anyone else hear of this or is it codology???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    bungaro79 wrote: »
    read that by having a protein source with a natural sugar source like fruit means you don't get a spike in insulin as the protein spreads it out instead of just getting a hit. anyone else hear of this or is it codology???

    Does it matter?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 881 ✭✭✭ray jay


    the sugar in fruit is fructose, it doesn't stimulate insulin production at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    FO REAL BRO?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    d'Oracle the smart arsed replies are getting very annoying and it's destructive to threads - there's plenty of room for banter but at least follow it up with a proper contribution.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 We Were Promised Jetpacks


    bungaro79 wrote: »
    read that by having a protein source with a natural sugar source like fruit means you don't get a spike in insulin as the protein spreads it out instead of just getting a hit. anyone else hear of this or is it codology???

    That's true, but in the grand scheme of things probably doesn't matter a whole lot.
    ray jay wrote: »
    the sugar in fruit is fructose, it doesn't stimulate insulin production at all

    Not true exactly, but again see above comment:)

    Smoothies, in fairness, won't make or break your fat loss efforts unless you're consuming too many of em - same as anything else. They are grand in moderate amounts and you're getting your fruit in (but better to eat your fruit whole).

    So to summarise, have them if you enjoy them, just don't go too crazy :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    g'em wrote: »
    d'Oracle the smart arsed replies are getting very annoying and it's destructive to threads - there's plenty of room for banter but at least follow it up with a proper contribution.

    OK.
    But I think any contribution to this thread I could make has since been made.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 598 ✭✭✭Apip99


    Cheers folks,

    Well I think it’s the Whey.

    Back ground is that good lady has giving up the smokes (3 weeks, well done her) and while she has been slim since being on the vegetarian diet last year, her stomach had gotten bloated the past couple of weeks. She was blaming the smoothies I’d been making, and I was saying it was due to body adgusting form giving up smokes.

    After having a read last night, whey protein has been know to cause bloating in people, mostly ladies for some reason.

    So she’s going to leave that out for a bit and see how she goes.

    Thanks again,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    ray jay wrote: »
    the sugar in fruit is fructose, it doesn't stimulate insulin production at all

    Is this true?

    Didn't think it was but I am far from knowledgeable


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 steveoracle


    Many fruits are high in sugar so even eating your five a day might be too much if you choose the wrong fruit. Make a smoothie with low cal fruits like Apples and don't add any sugar and you'll be fine . .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭Will Heffernan


    Many fruits are high in sugar so even eating your five a day might be too much if you choose the wrong fruit. Make a smoothie with low cal fruits like Apples and don't add any sugar and you'll be fine . .
    This is just my opinion...but I hate seeing people being discouraged from eating fruit....sugar be damned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭mloc


    ray jay wrote: »
    the sugar in fruit is fructose, it doesn't stimulate insulin production at all

    Totally incorrect. Fructose does indeed stimulate insulin release and can cause insulin resistance and, more importantly, lipogenesis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭metamorphosis


    HEY EVERYBODY ... lets all not eat fruit and then we wont be fat.

    Anyway ... back on topic. OP - don't think of foods as fattening. If you over eat anything you will get fat. Fresh fruit, milk, whey - thats's a nice combo of carbs, protein and some fat from the milk. Go for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    ULstudent wrote: »
    HEY EVERYBODY ... lets all not eat fruit and then we wont be fat.

    Anyway ... back on topic. OP - don't think of foods as fattening. If you over eat anything you will get fat. Fresh fruit, milk, whey - thats's a nice combo of carbs, protein and some fat from the milk. Go for it.

    Just in case I am included in the people against fruit party I'd just like to say that I saw something which I thought was incorrect (fructose and insulin) and just wanted it clarified.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭metamorphosis


    Vegeta wrote: »
    Just in case I am included in the people against fruit party I'd just like to say that I saw something which I thought was incorrect (fructose and insulin) and just wanted it clarified.


    Wasn't having a go at any post in particular, i just think that fruit (despite the relativly high amounts of sugar in some of it) has a place is most peoples diet for the vitmain and mineral composition alone. I mean you get next to no minerals and vitamins from eating 300kcals of dairy milk which is compromised of sugar and veg fat with a little milk and cocoa. At least with 300kcals of fruit you will get vitamins, fiber and minerals too to soften the sugar so to speak. If had to get fat from one or the other it will sure as damn be fruit!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    ULstudent wrote: »

    Anyway ... back on topic. OP - don't think of foods as fattening. If you over eat anything you will get fat. Fresh fruit, milk, whey - thats's a nice combo of carbs, protein and some fat from the milk. Go for it.

    Topic is dead bro.
    OP said it was for his missus and she was having bloating issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    ULstudent wrote: »
    If had to get fat from one or the other it will sure as damn be fruit!

    Amen

    I love the stuff, how could I not. It's brightly coloured and tastes amazing. Funnily enough I don't like smoothies. Not because of the nutritional value but because usually one fruit will dominate the flavour like a kiwi or a banana.

    Stayed in a nice hotel in cork recently and they had fresh raspberries and blackberries at the breakfast buffet. I hadn't had fresh ones since I was a child picking them wild at my grandmothers house. They were amazing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭TheZ


    If a smoothie is calorie dense then it is likely to be more fattening than a meal of same calories because you can get them in easier and without as much effort

    hence you get shakes designed to help people put on weight because it is easier to drink 1000 calories in a shake for most people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭mloc


    mloc wrote: »
    Totally incorrect. Fructose does indeed stimulate insulin release and can cause insulin resistance and, more importantly, lipogenesis.

    Sorry I should follow up on this; fructose does not stimulate insulin release directly in the way that glucose and some other nutrients do; increased consumption of fructose however can lead to hyperinsulinemia and resultant insulin resistance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 thaifighter


    Apip99 wrote: »
    Quick one lads.

    Good lady is stating that yes they are, and I'm saying that if you are exercising then no, they are fine.

    Half pint milk
    hand full of frozen berries
    half banana
    half scoop whey.

    Thanks,
    Nothing is fattening.

    What's fattening is taking in too many calories for the amount of activity that you partake in. This is especially the case if those calories are from source that tend to lend themselves to fat gain (e.g. fast carbs, non-EFA fats etc.)

    The drink above looks great. Tasty and nutritious. Post workout it'd be fantastic, or as a quick breakfast. The only thing I'd add is a teaspoon of peanut butter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭Lotsafish


    The only thing I'd add is a teaspoon of peanut butter.

    Oh man! I never thought to put some peanut butter in my smoothies! You just rocked my world.

    I cant wait till tomorrow morning to try it out :D

    Thanks!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 598 ✭✭✭Apip99


    Every morning I now have:

    3/4 pint milk
    hand full of frozen berries
    full banana
    1 scoop whey.
    Tea spoon spirulina
    Table spoon of peanut butter.

    A great start to the day :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    Apip99 wrote: »
    Every morning I now have:

    3/4 pint milk
    hand full of frozen berries
    full banana
    1 scoop whey.
    Tea spoon spirulina
    Table spoon of peanut butter.

    A great start to the day :D

    That sounds delicious

    On a pedantic side note do you mean a table spoon or a desert spoon in case I want to try the recipe. Here's a pic showing a tea spoon, desert spoon and a table spoon
    Spoons.JPG


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 598 ✭✭✭Apip99


    Vegeta:
    I sir, refer to the spoon on the left of your image. :)

    I did have to google to check, as mother had always referred to such spoon as a table spoon. I believe some would refer to such spoon as a 'Serving Spoon'

    pedantic: Always welcome :)

    Oh and it hides the rank taste of spirulina..... Happy days to that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    Apip99 wrote: »
    Vegeta:
    I sir, refer to the spoon on the left of your image. :)

    I did have to google to check, as mother had always referred to such spoon as a table spoon. I believe some would refer to such spoon as a 'Serving Spoon'

    pedantic: Always welcome :)

    Oh and it hides the rank taste of spirulina..... Happy days to that.

    Your mother was right, it's just something that gets to me, desert spoons being referred to as table spoons but good stuff. Think I'll try one of these tomorrow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭HammerHeadGym


    ray jay wrote: »
    the sugar in fruit is fructose, it doesn't stimulate insulin production at all

    It's the fibre in fruit that prevents insulin spike, not the sugar source. Actually, the fibre just slows down the rate of sugar absorbtion.


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