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Suggestion & recommendation merged thread

  • 06-07-2010 10:32am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 21


    I feel a bit at loss trying to find new Graphic Novels. No, I'm not looking for main stream American comics...forget Dark Horse and Marvel...loving French or Spanish English translations. No super heroes of any kind, rather stories on anti-heroes that make Constantine like a pillar of propriety. Great graphics and illustrations, with excellent stories.
    A few examples, please add more (my list is a bit dated):

    * Boy Vampire, Eduardo Risso (done plenty for DC, Marvel)
    - Waaay before honey sickly Twilight vampire mills&boon

    * Chicanos, Eduardo Risso
    - Action and blood, among latino gangs.

    * The beast trilogy, Enki Bilal
    - Art, gripping...great, great, great.

    * Inkal series, Jodorowsky and Moebius
    - A true classic that has to be read.

    * Son of the Gun series, Jodorowky and Bess
    - Guns and unsettling story


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    If you like Eduardo Risso's work, 100 Bullets is a must (if you haven't already read it). Great sprawling noir story, starting with an old man offering the chance of legally-sanctioned revenge to those who have been wronged and escalating to a much higher-level tale about the powers that run the world.

    DC's short-lived humanoids collaboration led to a few interesting things - Fragile, for example, was a very distinctive tale about zombies in a post-apocalyptic world and all the better for it. Another one was The Zombies That Ate The World, which was a lot more humorous in tone.

    You may also want to check out Crecy by Warren Ellis - it's a great standalone comic, more a history lesson than anything else but fascinating at the same time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 653 ✭✭✭sean corcoran


    simple answer, read battle royale, theres 16 books (i think avent read it in ages) and its the perfect balance of a story, action and suspence. its by far the best grafic novel i have ever read


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Maus is one of the best in my opinion!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,015 ✭✭✭Paddy Samurai


    Because your excluding Dark Horse your missing out on one of the best graphic novel series ever IMO.
    Way before Dan Browne there was REX MUNDI


    When a medieval scroll disappears from a Paris church, Doctor Julien Sauniere investigates, uncovering a series of horrific ritual murders and an ancient secret society. Julien cannot let these shadowy figures retreat into the darkness, lest they take up their killing once again. His investigation turns into a one-man quest into the bizarre secrets of the Catholic Church

    Johnny Depp to star in the film

    http://www.rexmundi.net/story/index.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,015 ✭✭✭Paddy Samurai


    I hate most superhero comics as well,but this anti superhero series is brillant.Well worth a look.
    From the dark and twisted mind of Garth Ennis, co-creator of "Preacher" and "Hitman", and the savage pencil of Darick Robertson, artist of "Transmetropolitan", comes a darkly hilarious story that will change the way you look at superheroes forever!Meet Billy Butcher. He's not a nice man, and neither are his team: the Frenchman, Mother's Milk, and the Female. They hate "capes"...and so does Billy's newest recruit, Wee Hughie, whose girlfriend has just become collateral damage in a super-brawl. But does Hughie know what he's getting into?This hugely controversial new series - which caused an uproar upon original publication - explores the sordid side of superheroics! Warning: Adults Only!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_(comics)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭Roomic Cube


    deffo read preacher if you havent already


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41 John_Cultane


    I'm looking for some new ones to read too.

    Series I loved

    The Sandman
    Lucifer
    Books of Magic
    Preacher
    Swamp Thing
    Maus

    Liked
    Y last man Standing
    Concrete


    Other good ones but heroes involved
    Uncle Sam
    Kingdom Come
    Marvels


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭MikeC101


    I'm looking for some new ones to read too.

    Series I loved

    The Sandman
    Lucifer
    Books of Magic
    Preacher
    Swamp Thing

    Based on these, the one that immediately springs to mind is Hellblazer. I'd almost guess you might have read it, but forgot to include it :) Constantine is in the Books of Magic a bit isn't he?
    You'd probably enjoy Fables as well.
    And because I recommend this to anyone who likes Preacher and maybe likes superheroes a little less: The Boys


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 NetDabbler


    I recommend the Requiem Vampire Knight series by Pat Mills and Olivier Ledroit. It was translated from French for Heavy Metal but collected English editions from Panini are now available.

    Links:
    Requiem Vampire Knight Vol. 1 (Resurrection and Danse Macabre)
    Requiem Vampire Knight Vol. 2 (Dracula and The Vampire Ball)
    Requiem Vampire Knight Vol. 3 (Dragon Blitz and Hellfire Club)
    Requiem Vampire Knight Vol. 4 (The Convent of the Blood Sisters & the Queen of Dead Souls)

    Vols 3 and 4 are out in September.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭L


    @ JC, It depends on what you want. You seem to have similar taste to me so off the top of my head:

    Warren Ellis
    Transmetropolitan
    Planetary
    Ministry of Space
    Ruins (a subversion of Marvel's shiny origin stories)
    Ocean
    Switchblade Honey
    No Hero
    Black Summer

    Garth Ennis
    Chronicles of Wormwood
    Just a Pilgrim
    303

    I'll have a root around at home and update this with some other stuff later.


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭PerrinV2


    Hey guys,basically looking for some suggestions here,anyway when I was younger I used to watch all the old marvel cartoons(xmen,spiderman,iron etc) around 94 I think they were on and I'd like to get into some of the stories again.
    Just wondering do marvel publish any graphic novels or maybe a collection of comics grouped together,something that would be a decent lenght of a read?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Mr. K


    Wow, where to start? If you enjoyed the X-Men cartoons in the 90s, you might enjoy the Age of Apocalypse. It's set in an alternate timeline, where Apocalypse rules North America. It's quite long and has been collected in four trade paperbacks (graphic novels). Here's where you can buy the first volume (but shop around!): http://www.midtowncomics.com/Neshop/SearchResult.asp?txtTitle=Age+of+Apocalypse&biTitle=&txtSeries=X-Men+The+Complete+Age+Of+Apocalypse+Epic+Book+1+TP&cboMfg=632&cboParCat=62&txtWriter=&txtArtist=&txtPrice1=0&txtPrice2=0&txtIssue1=0&txtIssue2=0&showOutstock=0&Grade=0&rdosubscribable=0&cboRelDate1=&cboRelDate2=&searchType=0&chkPreOrder=&chkShowSalesItems=0&txtKeyword=&WhereFrom=SeriesSearchResult&chkshowthum=1#


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭PerrinV2


    Thanks Mr k.Just flicking through ebay today and this is the cheapest I found

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/X-Men-Complete-Age-Apocalypse-Epic-Book-1-TPB-Comp-/150466001115?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item230878f8db

    I probably post back again once I complete the four of them,thanks again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Mr. K


    No problem, enjoy. I kinda want to read AoA again now, it's been a while!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭Ridley


    I'd suggest you should grab volume one of Essential Spider-Man and Essential X-Men (Not Essential X-Men Classic) and start at the beginning, moving up the numbers if you like them.

    They're the basis of the cartoon series, are still readible and are designed to be cheap.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_Marvel

    There's free single issues at Marvel aswell ( http://marvel.com/digitalcomics/free/ ) if you can bare navigating it. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 Dots77


    Yep id reccomend the boys by Grath Ennis, its my fave series ever, not sure if its in novel ofr collected form yet but its definatly the best comic ever, i know crossed is in a collected edition and its definatly one of the best series ever:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 kevinanchi1


    Superman rocks the greatest super hero of all time ......
    Long Live The Legend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭distraction


    the boys is one of my favs as well, a few others include

    The walking dead,
    Next wave agents of HATE,
    Red,
    The Authority
    Chew

    so many good comics so little time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭Chronic Rick


    just to be clear do you want graphic novels or trade paperbacks and graphic novels?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭distraction


    just to be clear do you want graphic novels or trade paperbacks and graphic novels?

    forum is comics, id say that includes all of them :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭RocketFalls


    Not doing yourself any favours by leaving out Dark Horse.

    Look at the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen by Alan Moore. Think that was published by his own company.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,730 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Hey all

    I have a pretty good knowledge of comics based on various computer games, cartoons, Wikipedia etc, but I'd never read a comic before. However, I recently got the Marvel Comics app for the iPhone and I'm getting pretty hooked. Loved the Civil War story (played through it in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 but after reading the comics it definitely didn't do it justice) and currently reading New Avengers (2004). Also read the first Astonishing Spider-Man/Wolverine comic which I think is a new series.

    Just wondering if anyone had any suggestions. Thinking of taking a spin up to Forbidden Planet tomorrow. Want to pick up Batman: Widening Gyre too if possible. Read the first two issues and really enjoyed it.

    Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭nicklauski


    I have never been into comics, but a mate of mine was so he had some great ones.
    Preacher being the stand out one in my opinion.

    edit : Also if your into Batman check out, Batman : Year One, The Dark Night Returns and The Killing Joke.
    I think there the only four proper kinda grophic novels/comics Ive ever read. Apart from the Beano and Dandy :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭Ridley


    There's The Long Halloween of the Batman gotos aswell.

    As far as Civil War, I'd suggest the fallout from it. Avengers: The Initiative and Thunderbolts (starting with Faith in Monsters)

    If you like New Avengers then maybe just move up from there, really, and branch out when that series splits into New Avengers, Mighty Avengers and Initiative (and eventually Dark Avengers).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭Gambler


    This may be controversial but I loved Kevin Smiths run on Daredevil.

    I also loved Supreme Power, the opening issue is about an infant alien sent to earth from a dying planet who is found by a lovely couple who've never had a child of their own (recognise anything in the theme) but then the government comes along, snatches the baby and raises it to be the perfect patriotic super soldier... A great "twisted take" on Superman that set the tone for the whole series..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Mr. K


    I'd strongly advise reading Batman: Year One and The Long Halloween.

    In terms of Spidey, I'd recommend Ultimate Spider-Man. The first few volumes are easy to track down.

    Looking at X-Men, I'd advise reading The Dark Phoenix Saga and The Age of Apocalypse. The latter is divided into four TPBs and is set in an alternate timeline where Magneto leads the X-Men.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,963 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Hi,

    After playing through Batman Arkham Asylum again, I'm mad for a batman comic fix. I havn't read Batman since mid 90's. Only recently I read The Killing Joke which was absolute class.

    Can anyone recommend any other good Batman graphic novels to feed my fix??

    PS. The darker, the better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,730 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Due to underestimating how expensive comics are, I didn't get as much as I intended. However, I did pick up:

    Batman: The Dark Knight Returns (Read it today. Thought it was excellent. Few niggles with it here and there, but overall, a great read)
    Batman: The Killing Joke (Was a choice between this and Year One. Haven't read it yet though. I'll try pick up Year One next time)
    Batman: Cacophony (I'm a big Kevin Smith fan, so since Widening Gyre was all sold out, picked this up instead. Actually thought it was very good. Could have been better, but still really liked it)
    Amazing Spiderman: The Road to Civil War (Thought this was excellent)

    Like Ridley suggested, going to start working my way up from Civil War to try and catch up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭Ridley


    sheehy83 wrote: »
    Hi,

    After playing through Batman Arkham Asylum again, I'm mad for a batman comic fix. I havn't read Batman since mid 90's. Only recently I read The Killing Joke which was absolute class.

    Can anyone recommend any other good Batman graphic novels to feed my fix??

    PS. The darker, the better.

    http://comics.ign.com/articles/624/624619p5.html :)


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    Alright folks, I've merged the four recommendation/suggestion threads that we had going because we might as well keep all of that sort of chatter in the one place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 myImage


    One for the non-superhero readers, Joe Saccos war reporting style books are fantastic. Reading "Footnotes in Gaza" at the moment, great book :)


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